/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>8312562
who the fuck is ray peat?

>>8312583
He is a guy who studied nutrition who's legit. Everyone who disagrees with him is wrong. There is a forum dedicated to him.

Nutrition is not even an opinion, he is the only one who says what food is healthy and unhealthy for people and he is old, doesn't market anything and his website is very difficult to read because it's v scientific.

Basically, good food:
fruits (only with seeds, e.g. orange juice or watermelon)
milk (1% fat)
meat (oyster, liver... no chicken unless its diet was free of grains/polyunsaturated fats)
etc...

bad food to never eat:
nuts
seeds
vegetable oil (every food today has this, he says this is the main reason we get disease, and coconut oil is rarely used even though it is the best oil)... basically anything with polyunsaturated fat

You ARE trolling, right?

What 'THAT' kind of food has is sugar. And fat. In mass quantities.

People can DEFINITELY be lactose intolerant. To break lactose into its monomers (glucose and galactose), an enzyme called Lactase is necessary. Some people's bodies slow production of this enzyme with age. Some people are born with the inability to make it.

Things that are harder to digest spike your blood glucose more slowly. This is a good thing. This is why you need fiber. This is why people who drink four gallons of Mountain Dew a day are fat.

Fat is a VERY necessary nutrient. It makes your cell walls and protects your organs.

How the hell does caffeine inhibit iron? I am familiar with the chemical structure of caffeine and am very aware to the fact that iron carries a +2 charge. This makes no sense.

Most vegetables and grains contain calcium, especially dark, leafy greens.

I DO agree that cigarettes and coffee can be good for you! If you're someone who over eats and caffeine and nicotine are appetite suppressants, maybe it's better you smoke than graze all day.

>>8312609
>>8312562
>>831583
Nutrition isn't science; it's guesswork. Food science is the way, the truth, and the light.

this is some david icke level shit

>>8312609
>chicken fed a grain free diet

You realize, of course, that can't exist. You'd essentially have to have a Pterodactyl, raptor or bat to have something with wings that can survive grain free.

>>8312583
Seems like a modern day nutrition kook, like Kellog. If you go down the rabbit hole, you'll find a lot of crazy shielded by a difficult layer of science jargon. He appears to be occasionally right, which makes it even harder to sort out. Just eat less processed junk food. The end.

>>8312611
>What 'THAT' kind of food has is sugar. And fat. In mass quantities.
Dude... people in the world survive off milk from their cow and eggs from their chickens. Some survive off fruit and they're the healthiest without disease. People in America who eat stuff like Mcdonalds get cancer and diabetes and 'THAT' has more than sugar, like the bad oils.

>People can DEFINITELY be lactose intolerant.
Dude... It's true we produce less lactase but I don't get problems drinking milk that is warm... and I DO have "lactose intolerance" but the problem is cold/roomtemp milk is hard to digest, idk if there's people who can't drink ANY milk at all but that sucks b/c look at how much nutrients is in it.

>Things that are harder to digest spike your blood glucose more slowly. This is a good thing. This is why you need fiber. This is why people who drink four gallons of Mountain Dew a day are fat.
Dude... Mountain Dew is a bad example, it probably has some bad additives but drinking sugar will not make you fat. If all you ate was orange juice and milk, it would be intolerable to only eat liquid but you would have full nutrition and no diabetes or cancer. Sugar isn't bad, it doesn't do anything bad to you, other stuff in it are bad (e.g. if you eat a lot of HERSHEY chocolate, it has SOY LECHTIN which is a poison so you can't eat it in large quantities w/o getting bad health)

>Fat is a VERY necessary nutrient. It makes your cell walls and protects your organs.
Dude... I never said fat wasn't necessary but it does make you fat to eat a lot of it and milk with more than 2% fat tends to be too much fat and not enough nutrients. Remember fat and sugar alone do not provide any nutrition, and being too fat is bad for you.

>How the hell does caffeine inhibit iron?
Ray Peat says so, it binds to it. Iron is bad for grown ups, it is a mineral that helps growing kids/teens but as an adult it is a worthless metal that also dicolors skin (liver spots).

>>8312625
Dude... He is not a kook, everyone else is a kook. I already said anyone who disagrees with Peat is wrong, he's really the only one who is 100% about everything... Not 99% right, he doesn't say anything unless it is legit like a scientist, no schemes just fact.

Basically, he says to eat enough protein, carbs and avoid poisons like veggie oil and stuff that is bad for your metabolism.

>>8312562
That's really cool and all up until you said brown sugar is bad. Maybe you should research what it even is because you have no idea what you are talking about or at least you don't sound very credible with obvious errors like that.

>>8312625
>Just eat less processed junk food

Pretty much this, except I would go so far as to say all processed junk food. When you see an ingredient list on a food product that contains non-food items, eliminate it.

>>8312668
>I already said anyone who disagrees with Peat is wrong, he's really the only one who is 100% about everything... Not 99% right, he doesn't say anything unless it is legit like a scientist, no schemes just fact.


what kind of logic failure is this

>>8312676
MY logic is "stop taking my word for it, i'm not trying to convince you. go see for yourself"

Or tell me your diet and i'll tell you what stuff i think is bad for you and why


>>8312675
Tons of natural food are bad for you.

>>8312670
Yes I am not credible, this is 4chan so I don't say stuff that are really serious. But Ray Peat is smarter than me and says it a lot better...

I just said some stuff that seems legit like "sugar is not bad", people who think sugar is bad are wrong and need to stop believing stuff w/o knowing for sure.

>>8312680
>Tons of natural food are bad for you

Stopped reading. Thread hidden, information already read flushed from brain memory circuits.

>>8312690
Are you Ray Peat? Don't lie to me.

>>8312609
>Everyone who disagrees with him is wrong.

>>8312693
Just because something is nature doesn't mean you should it, senpai. You can't eat snake or hawk, you'll get arrested. You can't eat grass like a cow, your stomach isn't made for grass. You can eat fruits, it is sugary and has seeds so it wants to be consumed, but the seeds may have cyanide because they DON'T want to be eaten but spread to grow new fruit. You can't eat cactus, it will prick you.

I was going to say
>you can eat oyster if you dive down to the ocean and pluck it from it's family, open it's shell and eat it or cook it first
but that sounds so cruel... It's not necessary to eat meat, you can get protein from milk, eggs, potatoes, or even mushroom (but Ray Peat said mushrooms have a chemical that may be bad, but I think nothing too bad since he recommends button mushrooms but NOT SHITAKE for some reason)


>>8312703
No I'm not, I just know people are eating uninformed and want to helping

>PURE BROWN SUGAR is bad, it comes from wheat and it has no nutrition

you must be trolling

>>8312724
That guy you keep talking about sounds like a shyster. When it comes to nutrition, just use your common sense and always beware of people who claim that only they hold the secret to it.

Why is it that unironic rambling psychopaths always make it to /ck/?

Can't we just get the weird shut in autists like everybody else?

>>8312562
Thanks for the tips doc. Does my poo look healthy to you?

>>8312791
Just look up his name. he's in his 70s or 80s and spent his whole life studying food.

You can eat a balanced diet as long as you avoid the few foods that are bad for you.

>>8312981
You sound like you're in a cult

>>8312981
This is a pretty normal longevity for that generation. All the slightly younger boomers are going to live into their late 70's, and they didn't do fucking anything right nutritionally. They just have better healthcare.