/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>8153410
I like it since it's a nice healthy supplement and there's hundreds of ways to serve it, but I almost never eat it because it's packed to the brim with xenoestrogens. Those are horrible for you.

>>8153410
You are entitled to your own opinion

>>8153414
I don't think phytoestrogens actually has a noticable effect on humans, since it's a plant hormone.
It probably wont affect you like mammalian estrogen, which found in things like milk and meats

>>8153424
There are many tested cases where constant exposed to a lot of soy-based products led to estrogen problems.
Soylent especially fucks up tremendously with your body.

To be honest, it's not that much of an issue unless you consume A LOT of it. Like a diary intake.

>>8153427
>Soylent fucks up your body

source: my anus, and/or my "alternative medicine" webpages

>>8153427
I would like to see the sources though.

But ye, nothing is as bad for your body hormon wise as drinking milk.

>>8153432
Maybe because soylent is easier for your body too absorb?

It's pretty good. I like to use silken tofu, as I like the texture and I'm not looking for a meat substitute. It's good in soups and stuff. And everybody loves ma po tofu.

>>8153445
I would like to see sources on that, t b h.
What is wrong with milk? And don't use the added hormones in feed meme. I mean normal cow milk from a grazing cow without supplements in diet and not on medication.

>>8153446
Nah, it's all bullshit. Soylent is fine for you. There is no proof whatsoever that soylent fucks you. Here's test results from people actually taking it:
https://discourse.soylent.com/t/is-anyone-drinking-soylent-2-0-tracking-their-testosterone-estrogen-levels/24817/21

Also I've had soylent every day since 1.0, as it was one of very few things that didn't react negatively to the gastroenteritis and other bowel issues I had at the time, and now it's just a convenience, and I've lost weight, grown muscle, and as far as I can tell am as manly as I ever was, if not moreso. Haven't gotten it tested, but I don't feel the need to. I don't know what started this soy hysteria, but it's really retarded.

>>8153461
>a straightforward soylent shill
Figures.

I've compiled 2 studies that gives an explainer.

I couldnt find anything relating to phytosetrogen actvating mammalian recepotors, but i'm sure it happens.

>>8153465
>giving facts and personal experiences means I'm a shill

Kill yourself, faggot.

>>8153414
>>8153427
>>8153424
It can give you man-tits but only if you chug that shit

just don't be asian about it and use it as a supplement to stretch real protiens

>>8153468
>>8153432
>>8153414
Link removed, reposting from another paste site.

>>8153480
>non-sourced facts and testimonials meaning shit
Sounds like a soylent shill.

>>8153492
>It's too hard to click the links in the first forum post in the link provided
>meanwhile still have zero facts/sources/anything to back it up except "it's bad because I said so:

Glad we could end this irrationally, just like every anti-Soylent thread, you fucking faggot.

>>8153486
>>8153468
Still wont fucking post the link wtf

>>8153503
>linking directly to soylent's fucking hosted website like it means anything but biased shit
>coming from a soylent chugging bimbo
Seems like soylent fucks up your brain too!

>>8153508
>>8153503
how tf do i post a link on this fucking board.

>>8153511
you can't post links to most websites on this board, it'll think it's a scam. Just delete some dots and slashes or include them in brackets

>>8153511
>>8153579
ohthanks. i guess im just retarded for not of that

https ://paste (dot) ee/p/8T225

>>8153410

>>8153508
Okay, so anything that shows Soylent is fine is "biased shit", and my link is somehow a scam (
>>8153579 ) because it didn't get filtered (you know, because it links to a site that doesn't get posted here a lot and has never been used for malicious shit, which is how the fucking filter works), and that somehow makes me a shill

Yet this dingus:
>>8153504
>>8153511
>>8153588
who types like a fourteen year old Indian child and has no idea how 4chan works, is totally not an anti-Soylent nutjob?

Come on man, surely you can that doesn't make sense logically.

I'll even go to the trouble of linking all that shit from the post you refuse to click, though I've got a feeling you're just going to call them scams and shills, too.
https://umm.edu/health/medical/altmed/supplement/soy
http://examine.com/supplements/Soy%20Isoflavones/
http://www.soyfoods.org/wp-content/uploads/CSPI-article-Soy-Oh-Soy.pdf

You better watch yourself, cause you're fucking playing fire with me

>>8153414
>>8153424
Fermenting soy as in tofu or tempeh neutralizes the phytoestrogens and antinutrients.

Asians eat shit tons of the stuff and have long lifespans, as well.

>not going to Vietnam and eating delicious grilled tofu that has marinated for at least a day

why even live

I had tofu once. It was alright

>>8154146

"Normal" tofu isn't fermented.

>>8154146
They also have the figure of women

I tried it once and it tasted horrible. I got it from a generic discounter though and if you believe the vegan jew tofu actually greatly varies in quality so I may try it again if I get the chance to work with good tofu.

>>8154170
That looks so tasty.

I eat tofu with every meal.

Fav as of late is to cut a block of extra firm into cubes, throw it in a tupperware with TACO seasoning and leave it over night.

Cook the next day with peppers and onions cut up small, mix with black beans, pinto beans, rice, and mexican blend cheese.

Super cheap, super easy, sooo good.

>>8154242
>I tried it once and it tasted horrible.
Cut like this >>8154170 but only half as thick
Put in pan, with enough sunflower seed oil
Let it in there till it's pretty brown, not black though
Put in a (preferably chicken) soup just before serving. Shit's so cash.
Don't even need HQ stuff, there's basically no difference between the ones at the discounter and brand stuff. Well there are differences, but not because one is expensive and one isn't. Just need to try till you find one you like.
"Fresh" one in asian countries tastes different, but you probably won't get that anytime soon.

I always thought I was such a nerd, I refused to touch that strange bean curd

>>8153410
I feel like it drains taste from anything. It would still be dull even if you drowned it in soy sauce.

>>8154170
>marinated

In what?

>>8155048
a marinade?

>>8153485
>just don't be asian about it and use it as a supplement to stretch real protiens
Are you saying you shouldn't eat tofu with meat, or that you should, or that somehow asians only do one of those and not both?

>>8153461

>>8154242
Some places you get it from are just bad. Like Safeway has shit, spoiled tofu. People try that stuff there and never want to have it again.

Trader Joes on the other hand has great organic tofu for the same price. Best to check the expiration date on this stuff and try to get it a couple weeks in advance.

>>8155909
>"organic" tofu
>wasting money at Memer Joes
It's just fucking tofu, if you're gonna get tofu, at least don't overpay for marked up shit.

>>8155907
dude phytoestrogens are completely separate from animal estrogen and can't affect you at all

>>8155944
BS

>>8155944
oh ok

>>8155969
I think I read somewhere that Lemon Tart is free of both phyto and xenoestrogens.

>>8155928
It's literally the same price as the regular ones.

>>8153410

fuck the health supplements. fried tofu, fermented tofu, soups, they soak up flavors if you soak them for awhile. All good shit

Fried tofu is GOAT tho

>>8153410
hiyayakko is a cool & refreshing dish

The guy who developed breasts ate a lot of it. Like, copious amounts. You can't use him as an example and say, "Eating any amount of soy will cause you to grow breasts".