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Hello /ck/

I found out today my close friend has been diagnosed with pre stages of cervical cancer.
now i understand that beyond big money ideals and corruption there is much evidence suggesting that simple dietary changes can be huge in fighting and subduing this terrible disease.

PLEASE. and advice and study sources would be so appreciated. thank you.

>> No.7597298

>>7597296
stop eating heavily processed foods

>> No.7597319

bumping

>> No.7597320

>>7597296
pre stages of cervical cancer means your friend got HPV
which means she fucked someone raw
which means she's kinda stupid, which means dieting won't help
good news is surgery is usually very successful

>> No.7597327

>>7597320
sweet as dude lets just deal with the issue at hand, and not worry about judging someone for silly mistakes that can't be reversed. but thank you.

>> No.7597337
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7597337

>>7597296
Tell that faggot to eat more Big Macs.
A Big Mac a day keeps the doctor away.

>> No.7597343

>>7597327
>People shouldn't face the consequences of their actions

Don't you have a slutwalk march to attend?

>> No.7597347

>>7597320
>>7597343
virgin detected

>> No.7597348

>>7597343

you're actually a pretty awful human being..

in your eyes, fucking somebody raw means they should be given a slow and miserable death sentence? that's pretty fucked

>> No.7597356

>>7597320
You can get hpv as a man or a woman by indirect touch, amazingly enough, so a guy with it can scratch his junk and shake your hand, then you bite your nails or something

>> No.7597363

>>7597320
it is not completely implicit of HPV. so get your facts 100% correct before professing bullshit

>> No.7597369

>>7597347
>>7597348
Who let tumblr shit up our board?

>> No.7597370

>>7597348
I want to raw dog your stinky butthole

>> No.7597375

>>7597348
Appeal to emotion. Not an argument.

>> No.7597376

>>7597369
>>7597370

lol, i've fucked plenty of girls raw.. with my dick that i have since i have a Y chromosome.

do i deserve to die, anons? or am i just a cool guy?

>> No.7597379

>>7597363
yeah it could be aliens, or she may have stuffed a depleted uranium slug up her snatch
if I see a pre-cancerous lesion on a cervix, yeah, 95% of the time it's HPV
>>7597356
I know that, but I also know the vast majority of cases are from unprotected sex
>>7597327
there is no magical diet that will cure viral infections, you stupid cunt

>> No.7597382

>>7597375

fallacy fallacy..

just because you say something is a fallacy doesn't necessarily mean the premise of the argument isn't true.

why does somebody deserve cancer because they had sex with somebody raw if there are measures that can be taken to circumvent the consequences?

if somebody breaks their ankle playing basketball, do they also deserve to just deal with the consequences or do they deserve treatment if treatment is available?

>> No.7597389

>>7597379
sweet, where are you deriving that 95% from? sauce or nah?

>> No.7597392

>>7597379
you dumb fuck where the fuck did anyone ask for a "magical cure" are you unaware that around 35% of cancer is caused through dietary factors? see that correlation anywhere cunt? if you are implying that dietary awareness is not objectively effective in fighting cancer then you truly are a sorry piece of ignorant shit, and should do some research. look into antiangiogenisis

>> No.7597393

>>7597389
Noller KL. Intraepithelial neoplasia of the lower genital tract (cervix, vulva): etiology, screening, diagnostic techniques, management. In: Lentz GM, Lobo RA, Gershenson DM, Katz VL, eds. Comprehensive Gynecology. 6th ed. Philadelphia, PA: Elsevier Mosby; 2012

>> No.7597394

>>7597392
THIS IS NOT CANCER
IT IS A PRE-CANCEROUS LESION MOST LIKELY CAUSED BY A VIRUS
GO FUCK YOURSELF SIDEWAYS WITH A FUCKING RAKE YOU UNEDUCATED PIECE OF SHIT
YOU ARE NOT HELPING YOUR FRIEND WITH YOUR PSEUDOSCIENCE, IN FACT YOU STAND A GOOD CHANCE OF MAKING A BAD SITUATION MUCH MUCH WORSE
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>> No.7597396

>>7597394
the whole point of me putting this out here is to gain a better understanding you piece of shit if you have information that could help i would honestly love to hear it, but if you'd rather hold out and be a prick then go ahead. If i thought i had all the answers why would i even be enquiring. gee you really are a cunt hey and seem to be holstering quite a lot of hostility

>> No.7597397

>>7597376
neither

>> No.7597403

>>7597394
do you know the concepts of antiangiogenisis? it is completely evidence based. you contrarian dog.

implying that the idea of dormant cancers becoming malignant through interaction with uninhibited blood vessels (capillaries) by a process called "angiogenisis" is hardly pseudo scientific. fucking cunt.

>> No.7597404

>>7597396
> if you have information that could help i would honestly love to hear it
I just gave you some, but you're ignoring it
let me recap
- it's a viral infection
- it's not cancer (yet)
- depending on how bad it is, it may go away on its own, or it may need surgery
- seeing as your friend is young, this will probably end well, i.e. she will not die or suffer any permanent or long-term damage
- pushing some retarded diet on her will not help at all, since viruses can't be fought with food

> holstering
ahahahahaha
you're literally retarded
please, just go back to tumblr or where ever you fucking came from
also I'm beginning to think that maybe people who count you among their friends wouldn't be such a terrible loss to society

>> No.7597406

>>7597404
you actually think you have some sort of complete knowledge and are ignoring my point. yes certain food can IN FACT maintain "ANTIANGIOGENETIC" properties. so stop being a arrogant cunt

>> No.7597410

>>7597348
A slut who fucks around bareback and gets aids has nobody to blame but themselves for being a moron, ditto this situation. If you blame others for your own choices then you are a very shitty person.

>> No.7597411

>>7597403
the idea that cells become malignant when they meet blood vessels is pretty retarded

>> No.7597413

>>7597411
the idea that cancer can spread once accessing the circulatory system is retarded?

>> No.7597414

>>7597406
such "food", if it exists, would better be classed as poison

>> No.7597415

>>7597410
dude just because you've been fucked around by some girl because you weren't emotionally matured enough to know what you wanted shouldn't be a death sentence on anyone else except yourself

>> No.7597416

>>7597414
sweet rebuttal bro, also way to be a close minded narcissist

>> No.7597418

>>7597413
yes. there is no place in your body where the circulatory system doesn't reach. all tumors are vascularized, some more extensively, some less

>> No.7597420

>>7597356
This s why you have hand sanitiser on you, for dealing with nasty cunts who don't know basic hygiene.

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7597422

>>7597376

>> No.7597424

>>7597382
>deserve
You're using very emotionally charged words. Nobody said anything about deserving, simply that you need to act like an adult and face the consequences of your own actions.

>> No.7597425

>>7597414
if you class berries, kale, tomatoes and others as poison.

>> No.7597426

>>7597396
Not him but use common sense, cut out the processed food, cut out preservatives and E-numbers and make sure you have a balanced diet rich with fruits and vegetables.

>> No.7597427

>>7597425
I will now read a peer reviewed study about the mechanisms of anti-angiogenesis triggered by kale, if you happen to have a citation on hand, please and thank you
if not, go fuck yourself sideways, with a rake

>> No.7597428

>>7597424
you need to redefine your understanding of the term "face the consequences"

you think 'facing the consequences' is just giving up and letting yourself die.

i would say facing the consequences is accepting your situation and taking action to improve your circumstances.. I'm not telling my friend to not listen to doctors and go on some miracle diet obviously. just asking for peer based evidence and ideas as to consult with a doctor on. fuck. so much condemnation

>> No.7597429

>>7597426
> cut out processed food
[citation needed]
> rich with fruits
yeah, let's flood the bloodstream with simple sugars, tumors crave that shit
oh. wait

>> No.7597431

>>7597415
What?

>> No.7597434

>>7597428
You talk like a 12 year old girl. Really defensive and disingenuous.

>> No.7597436

>>7597429
Well I mean that study that was spammed everywhere as the end of bacon from a few months ago about processed food resulting in cancer seems pretty conclusive.

Fruits and vegetables are as basic in a good diet that I believe you are shitposting to think otherwise.

>> No.7597440

>>7597436
citation or gtfo

>> No.7597441

>>7597427
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0278691513002214

>> No.7597442

>>7597347
>Oh no someone said maybe I need to take responsibility for my action
>I'm a woman so nah, better just insult him by using the only thing I have of value, the hole between my legs I was born with

Wew lad.

>> No.7597444

>>7597434
you are free to interpret it however you like, nice rhetoric bro

>> No.7597448

>>7597427
Anti-angiogenic drugs and supplements have been shown to significantly reduce the malignancy of cancer. It hinders the development of vasculature to and around tumorous areas and thereby prevents transmission. Another significant treatment in research is obvious: marijuana has been shown to cause selective apoptosis in tumor cells, which particular constituent I am not positive but I believe the use of anti-angiogenic diet on top of supplementation of cannabinoids may help tide cancer from severe malignancy.

>> No.7597449

>>7597428
I think you need to redefine your understanding of the term "face the consequences", along with many other terms.

who said anything about being a quitter? Again you are putting words in other peoples mouths like your slut friend put cocks in hers.

The latter of your post is what it means so I don't know why you are spewing out nonsense.

>> No.7597451

>>7597441
> resveratrol
if you eat kale and only kale all day, you will not even come close to getting enough resveratrol for a clinically detectable response
effective doses are in the grams, for normal adults
> inb4 every little bit helps
lol

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7597452

>>7597444
You are using words without understanding their meaning, just like your last post.

Is English not your first language? It is perfectly understandable if it is and there is no need to get frustrated.

You need to set aside the rhetoric and get around the negotiating table.

>> No.7597453

>>7597449
if you agree with the latter of the post then you understand this whole post is about her 'facing the consequences' you cunt.

so why did you feel the need to CONTRAST any of the dialogue in this thread with the idea that she needs to do so? fuck. implying some alternate definition of the term

>> No.7597454

>>7597452
this is how you negotiate? funny would never have considered you an authority on the concept considering how you interact with people looking for help. piece of shit.

>> No.7597457

esveratrol from red grapes, for example, have been shown to inhibit abnormal angiogenesis by 60 percent. Even more potent is the ellagic acid found in strawberries.

>> No.7597458

>>7597453
You have bipolar disorder don't you?

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7597459

>>7597454
You need to set aside the rhetoric and get around the negotiating table.

>> No.7597463

>>7597296
Happened to a family member twice. Surgery fixes it quickly. It's believed that smoking and stress played a major part in its formation

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7597466

>>7597463
>stress played a major part in its formation

Did this thread just kill a slut?

>> No.7597473

at least it isn't ovarian cancer

>> No.7597486

>>7597337
Goddamn McDonald's shills, I'm hungry as fuck now

>> No.7597545

>>7597296
>there is much evidence
If you condider zero much, then yes

>> No.7597547

>>7597545
implying that eating processed foods and high sugar food has no effect? in turn implying that correct diet also has no effect. FAGOT

>> No.7597549

>>7597320
hpv does not have to be contracted by sex, anon.

>> No.7597575

>>7597547
No. There are foods that cause cancer. But OP was asking about foods that cure cancer. There are none.
>Learn2read faggot

>> No.7597586

>>7597296
talk to a doctor that specializes in the cancer and a dietitian DIETITIAN.

https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=food+and+cancer&btnG=&hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C43
theres also google scholar.

>> No.7597588

>>7597296

you may consider asking the doctor about removing parts of the uterus entirely if your friend doesn't mind the salt and fire approach. I would. fuck that noises.

>> No.7597593

>>7597434
>>emotionally charged arguements
>>this emotional knee jerking.
wow
someone needs to fucking enjoy a hot steaming pile of hotpocket dick up their ass.

>> No.7597595

>>7597458
more retarded appeals to emotion you two twats where complaining about earlier. OP has never been less of a faggot compared to you.

>> No.7597598

>>7597575
he said fight cancer. and there are foods and diets that can help you fight cancer. none that cure it. but cancer is a disease your body regularly fights, additional immune system boosting, and depriving the cancer of the types of energy it needs to grow fastest, are the best bet. carcinogens seem to especially be a bad idea, though this is more just my ignorant conjecture at this point, if your antibodies are busy fighting other cancers, they will be stretched thin dealing with the current more deadly cancer.

>> No.7597600

>>7597296
>simple dietary changes can be huge in fighting and subduing this terrible disease.

The best way to prevent cervical cancer is to get the hpv vaccine. Diet makes no difference.

>> No.7597727

>>7597593
Cry more.

>> No.7597774

>>7597595
God you faggots are a cancer.

>> No.7597782

>>7597296
Look up Gerson therapy

>> No.7597865

There is so much pseudoscience and ignorance in this thread that it physically pains me.

Why do femshits that know nothing about science insist on thrusting their tabloid shit onto others? To put it in tumblr terms they can digest, it's kind of RAPING proper discourse.

>> No.7597890

>>7597865
You're triggering me, shitlord.

>> No.7597954

>>7597865
exactly what is raping proper discourse besides a bunch of butthurt faggots on 4chan insulting someone's arguement in the exact ironic way they are are acting? The only advice that needs to be given has, and with scientific clarity.

>> No.7598160

>7597348
"Ho, hum" Ignatious belched

>> No.7598173

>>7597296
You are obviously a moron if you think food can cure cancer. Go find a naturopath to rob you blind, faggot. Do you really think broccoli can blow away cancer when chemo fails?

>> No.7598186

>>7597343

>making difficult lifestyle changes to slow or reverse the effects of a disease is not considered facing consequences

I knew this thread was gonna be good. /ck/ is the best board to watch everyone's hatred of women come out

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7598245

>>7597598
Pls read this book before posting again

>> No.7598265

>>7598173
>diet has no effect on anything

Durrrrr

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7598290

>>7598245
He's partially right though. Your body does kill cancer cells on a daily basis and certain foods or dietary trends have been linked to lowered cancer rates (e.g. wops and zipperheads take forever to die despite higher smoking/drinking rates than other developed countries).

>> No.7598305

>>7598265
Nobody is saying that.

But the idea that a magic diet can CURE cancer is just plain silly.

>> No.7598325

>>7598290
>and certain foods or dietary trends have been linked
>have been linked
That means NO EVIDENCE AT ALL but I needed some credible and sciency sounding lingo for my article in a glossy life style magazine