/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>7502559
join the military.
at least they will make you not worthless.
don't need more worthless people in the food industry.

it's really stressful for shit pay

Enjoy working with mexicans, third world refugees, and meth heads. Also enjoy not being able to enjoy eating out anymore because you've seen how filthy and disgusting most kitchens are, and enjoy catching herpes from fucking that cute waitress that later turned out to be a psycho bitch with a pill addiction.

If you like to cook, get a real job that affords you enough money to eat high quality dishes.

Only way you're going to enjoy working in the industry is by being an owner. Then you can just call yourself the executive chef and run the kitchen the way you want to. Forego the years upon years of shit work and just take the leap, if you trust your cooking that is.

>>7502813
>literally doing the dirty work of international business and banking interests all in the name of freedumz
>some how useful
>learning a trade and putting said trade to use in order to survive
>some how totally useless

>>7502842
You learn a shitload in the military and get paid to do it while having very few expenses. Enlist for five years, come out a capable human being with a nice little pile of savings.

>>7502813
Basically this. If you are young and so lost that you're actually considering making a career out of cooking then join the fucking military. Or go to trade school. Be a plumber or a welder or a truck driver. Kitchen work will kill you, I hate how it's so romanticised in our culture. The chances of making it big are less than the chances of being a rock star, it doesn't matter how good you are.

>>7502883
>small savings.

That's a funny way of saying a fat wife, three kids, and a Honda Civic with 20" rims.

>>7502924
the fuck this post has absolutely no relationship with reality

>>7502818
>If you like to cook, get a real job that affords you enough money to eat high quality dishes.

This. I dropped out of Culinary School my first month once I found/realized that it mostly attracts degenerates.

Went and got Chemical Engineering degree and learned how to code. Now I spend literally $3,000 a month on my cooking hobby cooking every night and sometimes 3 times a day just for fun

>>7502930
You've obviously never lived on post.

If you REALLY want to work in food or your only skill is cooking I would recommend working someplace that isn't a restaurant. I've found catering/banquet, hotel and other stuff way less stressful.

>>7502924
Those are things you can end up with after just about any job, or in some cases, no job at all. Joining the military doesn't mean you have to marry and have kids.

>>7502922
>this
i blame tony bourdain

>>7502559
Trade school/community college. Most offer courses in culinary, butchery, bakery etc.

>>7502818
>Also enjoy not being able to enjoy eating out anymore because you've seen how filthy and disgusting most kitchens are

You are aware that you DO have an immune system right?

become a tradesperson you fuck

you and everyone else fucked up murica

>>7502559
>as shitty as they say?

worse

>>7502559
Let's just say I've never met a comfortable looking, unratty looking restaurant chef.

But yes like Anon said, catering is a good option, I used to know someone in a disability job search center and a lot of the jobs they give disabled people with low intellect, aspergers etc where catering jobs.
Also I met a chef that signed up to be a cook in the army and he said he liked it. He only left cos he got a GF. Paid well and was solid work otherwise. Put your politics asside and get the experience you need

Eesh. This thread is negative as fuck. I quite enjoy working in a kitchen. It's stressful, but I feed on that shit.

>>7502559
It's the career equivalent of setting your favourite song as your alarm tone.

>>7502559
Cooking is a grinding, never stopping thankless job. I cooked for 10+ years in a few restaurants and even thought I wanted to open my own place.

- so much busywork it is unbelievable.
- you will only be able to get shit people to work for you for the wages you can offer.
- I literally worked every holiday for 7 years (conference center)
- hope you like working weekends !
- waitstaff will probably take home more money than you.

Quit my job after saving up a bunch of money and traveled the world for 3 months. Then decided to learn computers.
- took me 2 years to be able to hold still after years of restaurant busy work. kek
Now I make 3x the money, while surfing the web for 1/2 my day at work.

>he thinks he's going to be surrounded by a kitchen full of qt's casually peeling fruit

Most gigs are terrible and the pay/benefits is some of the worst or the amount of shit you have to deal with.

If there are qt's they'll be FoH, and you'll spend most of your time watching them flirt with other FoH staff while you sweat behind the line just waiting for an opportunity to go out back and smoke half a cigarette.

>>7503640

The reality of cooking for a living is almost entirely negative as fuck.

>>7503869
this is very accurate, everyone in the kitchen hates being there for the most part. while front of house gets to have all the fun and make the most money by far

Former Dishwasher , 2 month prep cook reporting in. Can't speak on line cooking but being a prep is fun as fuck. I actually enjoy doing my job, I get to joke with everybody in the kitchen and flirt with qt 3.14 waitresses and runners instead of being locked away in a dish pit or stuck behind a serving line. Become a prep cook OP, and join a union house if you can.

>>7503878

>server comes back and asks how long on an order
>"okay, i'll go wait out in the a/c"
>server comes behind the line for the first time to grab a ramekin of sauce
>"it's like 20 degrees hotter on this side of the line! how do you even work in these conditions?!"
>watch server count their tips right in front of you when you still have an hour of cleaning before you punch out and go home with half that amount

You have to get some kind of pleasure out of fast paced, stressful situations to even consider it. Only other benefits are eating restaurant tier food that you can make however you want, and you'll learn how to cook like a beast and generally get shit done.

>>7502559
>Standing for hours
>rarely time to eat
>alot of stressfull hours easily 8-10
>summer is like sauna with clothes

good thing tho free food and pretty easy to get if u had a similar job b4

>>7503183
Think about how shitty they say, but even worse than this anon says:

Depends really. I've played with the idea of becoming a chef, I revisit it every two months or so when I feel exceptionally inspired and am doing really well at work.
The rest of the time I feel like I'm scamming money out of the owner. However, I also work at a shithole, head chef is so burnt out he doesn't give a fuck about anything anymore, owner is a former debt collector/cocaine wholeseller and a total fucking asshole. Nothing is done properly at that place, no one washes vegetables, we use vegetables that have started to smell. People take shit out of coolers and just leave it laying around the kitchen for two hours without even thinking about it. I just moved back home and started working there again in January.
We have a 2 person kitchen that has 53 courses on the menu, we have a very wide selection of items and it really seems that every fucking person that comes in there wants to change at least 1 item pr plate.
When it has gotten the most hectic we've had days where we server 410 plates. On top of that there's only one waiter working on the floor of the kitchen that is then in charge of taking orders, making coffee, bringing food out and clearing tables afterwards.

I just work there because the guys I work with are hilarious and I'm too lazy to start a new job from scratch since I'll be moving out of the country this summer. Pay is decent as well and I work an alright work rotation. Manage to clear 200 hours a month with 10 days off on around 17 USD/hour. Even though these days I have to spend loads of money on speed just to be able to do my job without collapsing on to the floor crying.

But yeah, if you're SERIOUSLY into cooking, you have an actual PASSION for food, you're serious about what you do then definitely go for it. But if you're just doing it as a cop out so you won't have to deal with people harrassing you about what you're going to do with your life and avoiding having to go to school then you should by no means do it.

>>7503860
Nothing like hitting overtime and having waitstaff who are there half of the time make more money than you.
OP, if you have any form of a social life. Say good bye to it. They want to got get something to eat Friday night? Looks like you are working. By the time you are off of work you are going to be so goddamn tired you won't want to bother with anything other than sleep or alcohol or cigarettes. BOH is also full of convicts. Honestly, some days I love it, some days I hate it. A blunt with my kitchen crew after a long shift is always rewarding to me.

>>7504020
>rarely time to eat
This so much. People who say never trust a skinny chef haven't stepped foot in a real kitchen. Try being fat and being in the confined, hot hell hole that is the Friday night dinner service kitchen. You would die while everyone hates you for being in the goddamn way.

i work 3-4 days a week as a line cook and pull in about 1100 bucks a month from november through april and about 2000 a month from may to october. its a tourist town. i also live in a low cost of living state and my monthly required costs are around 900 bucks. i try to save at least 100 a month but i'm an alcoholic so it gets hard in the winter. in the summer its more like 4-5 days and i get 14.50 an hour plus the kitchen gets 10% of the wait staff's tips.

its a 3 person kitchen with 2 waiters/waitresses, a dishwasher and 1 to 2 host/bussers, with 1 bartender who makes drinks for the entire restaurant. the bartender has the hardest job by far probably, but ive never done it so who knows.

the work is fucking stressful and tiring. i get burned, we make mistakes that make us want to kill ourselves (this quesadilla was no onions), we hear comments from the occasional table that make us want to cry (the kitchen manager you fired was a better cook), and we get orders that make us want to take an assault rifle to the entire restaurant (hard shell taco with a flour tortilla inside of it, beef and sour cream only pls).

at the end of the day though, i feel accomplished and i drink a cold beer and a gin and tonic and i feel happy, hanging out with my closest friends and drinking in a bar where everyone knows everyone, quite literally. does life feel stagnant? does the day before work begins at 2pm feel nonexistent? do we get mad at each other? Fuck yes. but i like it for now. Maybe one day i will utilize my potential and learn some skills that will help me live truly comfortably, but for now i am happy being unhappy half the time and blissful the other half

>>7504064
>But if you're just doing it as a cop out so you won't have to deal with people harrassing you about what you're going to do with your life and avoiding having to go to school then you should by no means do it.

what do we do instead? I am in every way not cut out for physical combat. should i consider armed forces careers that don't involve actual violence?

>>7504117
Become a drug dealer or some shit. Don't go to the army, only stupid people go to war without being drafted. Serving corporate interests by shooting illiterate desert people in the head.

>>7503163
Yeah, eating a steak covered with dirty ass chef hands which are probably contaminated with raw beef is not gross.

>>7504139
Not really. Get a good occupation that teaches you skills to use outside the military, get a lifetime of benefits, go to school on the GI bill for free, and they pay you for it.

All more advisable than being a drug dealer. But then again, I'm talking to a fucking retard.

>>7502842
What I was saying, implying, was that a useless person can come out useful to society, learning a trade (even culinary) by joining the military.
A useless person joining the food industry can only ever become a useless person in the food industry.
At least the military will make you a man. Teach you drive and beat the uselessness out of you.
You may have military experience, but I've watched this in the food industry for 30 years. There's a lot of barking and ass busting, but the people that actually need it rarely (and in the rare cases, it happens SLOWLY) amount to anything.

>>7504147
People like you are why "supergerms" are a thing

>>7502559
Well basically


I'll work 27 out of 48 hours this Saturday and Sunday I'll make 10 dollars an hour I'll get 7 hours of sleep because I'll stay up all night drinking by myself and doing blow and considering suicide knowing I'm probably stuck here after my FOH transfer was rejected because the new GM doesn't like me because I made his fat fucking ass wait on food because dining room food > bar food when he was a bartender

I'm in no position of power but I close the restaurant six days a week, maybe in eight years I can be sous chef when the position opens and make a shocking 24k a year before taxes


I am constantly injured and I limp without shoes on, I am always burnt and tired and probably smelly


Chef coats are stylish though and I can do whatever I want and usually have a 20 dollar hamburger for lunch I also do two of the specials every week


Oh right so when I'm not chiefing Coke off a mirror in my parents basement (finished mind you, fuck you it's nice down here) I'm drinking myself to death with grand marnier long islands at the bar until 12 or 1

I don't know why the fuck i guess I'm used to this place but the moment 100 people arrive to eat is a pretty good adrenaline rush


Stay the fuck away

>>7503929
>walk in to start shift Rush is already here
>say "holy fuck it's hot back here"
>FOH white trash waitress goes "what a pussy I WALK back to that kitchen before its NOT that hot"
>digital clock on wall says 99.5 degrees
>make her ticket then drop it in the trash when putting it in window
"Sorry Jen my hands are just really sweaty but I don't know why because it's not hot back here


She had all the big parties that night and didn't get an entrée with a ticket less than 45 minutes


Fucking bitch catch me on a coke night I'll throw the fucking plates at you

>>7504437
Boy and I love when a server went on a vacation to the UK for a week working 4 days a fucking week


Seriously fuck cooking and because I have kitchen experience I'll probably never be able to fucking front of house

>>7502818
>and enjoy catching herpes from fucking that cute waitress that later turned out to be a psycho bitch with a pill addiction.

You fucked her too?

>>7504444
Nice quads.
Just lie about your position at previous employers and learn yourself to serve. Most places don't call restaurants to check previous employment. Just get some experience. You can do it

>>7504456
I bartend too, I make as much bartending two nights a week as I do at my kitchen and I'm great at it I've always been great with people at every job even when it was answering phones but every restaurant needs cooks

I just wanna make drinks and spin bottles man I'm good at that, when I go insane off a bender or cut my fingertip off and quit I'll try that


Plus fucking having a closet full of nice clothes I have never fucking worn is shit I'm tired of wearing a fucking coat (I mean it's still stylish) and pajama stripy pants every day I look like I have a career from the waist up who the fuck invented chef pants

>>7503860
>Cooking is a grinding, never stopping thankless job.
>he didn't play the fuck out of an MMO or ARPG in his late teens/early 20s and enjoy it
fucking norman get out!

>>7502559
Just be a bartender

>>7504552
less work, more money, more drugs more respek

>>7502813

>killing people is more useful to society than feeding them

>>7503879
New kitchen cuck spotted

Every chef I've ever met and known love their job, even when they had to work in some shitter places before moving up

I live in Australia though so that might be it. America does seem like it would be a shit place to work in any industry

>>7504568
Also what does /ck/ think of pastry chef work? I've been considering that a lot lately

>>7504569
I work at a country club as a pastry cook. It gets repetitive and their isn't as much room for fucking up. Time is really the biggest enemy.

>>7502559
>is it really as shitty as they say?
It's worse.

Huge amounts of hours - think 70 hours a week as a low end- with more hours holidays/weekends since that's when restaurants are busy. Say goodbye to any chance of a social life. Plus you'll be constantly covered in little cuts and burns.

Super high stress work with a really fast pace and zero tolerance for mistakes, in a sweltering hot environment you're stuck in, often with no breaks, until shift ends.

Extremely shit pay and benefits- enjoy seeing servers who worked half as many hours as you go home with half again as much money as you. Even if you stick with it and work your ass off every day and do a great job for years and years and make your way up to sous chef/chef, you'll find you're working even more hours and still making very little money- like you could be making two or three times as much in half the hours doing some other trade, like plumbing or welding.

Plus you'll likely wind up with substance abuse problems, and eventually chronic foot/back problems from standing on a hard floor for 16 solid hours a day.

Unless you're insanely passionate about cooking, don't do it. If you think you might have that passion, I beg you to try it out for a while before you commit. Go volunteer in a restaurant kitchen or something, see how different the industry really is from the way it's portrayed.

being a chef is awesome if you don't mind being smelly, poor, and crazy

I fucking hate catering, especially when some one says "I'm a vegetarian do you have anything special for me?" No we fucking don't, what we are serving is all we fucking have. We cant just make a plate of steamed vegtables apear out of thin fucking air jus for youse . God I hate vegetarians

>>7505255

Catering can be great if you find the right gig.

I interned at a fancy company that did mansions and shit. Most of the food was prepped in a fucking warehouse kitchen, and then only a few of the cooks went on site to finish preparing it. I only went a few times but never had any contact with the guests.

It was so much better than working in a normal kitchen.

The only reason I got out of bed was for this big bag of amphetamines I bought last night


Welcome to the kitchen

>>7505333
I love catering too, it's just that people think that they can ask for something special when we brought everything already prepared

>>7502559
I'm two years into my culinary degree.
As someone who is not particularly amazing at all aspects of my job, I feel as though I have been pretty lucky with my career so far.
I was lucky enough to work for some fairly successful people with very high standards, and though they were strict it was clear that they cared for what they did. This is something that I respect, and I have learned much from them.

There is something that I really hate about culinary, though.

It's not the questionable pay, the ruthless hours, or the physical strain that eats away at me. It's the fucking people. My god, the amount of hateful, close minded, selfish pricks that you have to work with is absolutely insane. It fucking gets to me, I can put up with working overtime but when you have an uppity prick (who can apparently do NOTHING wrong) jabbing at you for menial things on top of that it's downright depressing to work. The selfish thoughts of these people really show quickly, especially when you are forced to work with them months on end. They always put you down man. For 4 years I've tried to convince myself that "There will be better people next year." or "Maybe I should focus on baking instead.", and it still hasn't improved. It makes me worried for the future.

I hope I'm not sounding like a pretentious person, but it gets to me. Maybe I'm in the wrong industry.

How different is just working in a bakery as opposed to working in a general kitchen? I'm considering getting an AS in Bakery and Pastry Management because I want to be a baked goods vendor, but I'm not sure if it's entirely necessary.

I think the real reason I do it is for weekly specials I do four of them and it's a good feeling when someone compliments it

>>7506213
Well, you bake everything in advance.
It's not like you're going-
>''WE'VE GOT 16 TABLES, 8½ BOULE BREADS, AND 7½ SOURDOUGH BAGUETTES, NOW!''

>>7506388
Was triggered to fuck the other day, when the place I work at decided to toss out something like 20 baguettes that weren't eaten that day.
A few hours old.
Gone too soon.

>>7506213

Definitely better, while i"m not saying working in a bakery is easy as pie (ha ha ha), it's definitely less stressful. Friend of mine works in one and basically shit gets baked in the morning-afternoon and you have a lot more downtime since all the stations are being used already or being cleaned and your goods are being baked. People aren't on edge, so you see the good side of them a lot more often.

>>7503878
FoH don't necessarily make more, they just make more on that particular shift, i.e more per hour due to tips (well i'm only really talking about servers here, runners / bussers tend to make fuck all, hostesses tend to get a slightly better hourly wage), but are always restricted by the amount of hours that can be worked.

>>7502818
I'm even more interested now. Wish me luck I'm heading towards that hell full force

>>7502818
>Also enjoy not being able to enjoy eating out anymore because you've seen how filthy and disgusting most kitchens are


This so fucking much, why are 7/10 cooks so fucking disgusting, fuck me.

>>7502559
>MFW engineer
>MFW work 7-3 5 days a week
>MFW plenty of money to buy top-tier ingredients
>MFW plenty of time after work to improve my cooking skills

I have huge respect for chefs but the job is really shit.

>>7502818
This post is underrated. I've worked front of the house for almost a decade and I hate going out to restaurants now since I know that I have to look into the eyes of all manner of sluts, drug addicts, spics, psychopaths, and degenerates in general.

Learn a trade, anon. I'm taking an easy 2-year associates degree in fluid power, and I expect to make at least $30-40k right out of school.
All the baby boomers will be retiring from their comfy maintainence tech positions soon, so now is the time to get your foot in the door.
The school I'm going to is literally the only one in the state with a fluid power program that doesn't suck ass, so companies come from all over the country to recruit our students.

Are you going to cook healthy foods?

>>7507861
yup, it's way better as a hobby.

Been in this industry for 7 years. Started out working at small pubs, now I run the line of a huge private country club. Yeah, it's stressful. I usually work 7 days a week, anywhere from 70 to 100 hours a week but this is the most rewarding career and I couldn't imagine doing anything else with my life.


If you have passion for food, feeding people and just working in a constant moving environment get into cooking. If not, keep it as a hobby. To each their own senpai

>>7502924

Why is this so fucking true? Nearly half of all my buddies who joined the military got married not even 2 years into their service to some woman who looks like hell, has no job prospects, and they never met before enlisting. I was thinking about joining the military but watching that happen to so many of my friends scared me right the hell away.

>>7504117
Drive

>>be healthy, quiet, fit, 25yr old me
>>find out I like cooking during college
>>decide to work at seafood restaurant as first legit job
>>almost everyone there is a drug addict or felon
>>nice cooks work in the morning, I work at night
>>wash dishes, prep cook, clean bathrooms, make apps, fetch food/stock line, sometimes get to mess with the grill if cook needs smoke break
>>have multiple bosses who all want different things/have to work differently around each of them
>>make 7.50 hr
>>take bus home late
>>have multiple cuts from steel wool and shucking oysters + degreaser burns and other burns on hands and arms
>>bruises all over my knees from lugging around kegs and big pots
>>lot of waitresses like me and think im really nice just because i smile and don't yell at them
>>have to listen to people bitch about the "nigger tables" or what dirty things they want to do to my co workers every night
>>some people there shit talk about me saying all i do is wash dishes and its the easiest job in the restaurant
>>get one day off a week or sometimes none depending on how busy it is
>>have already started applying for other jobs
>>first chance i get im gone

Literally this one restaurant has almost turned me off from cooking

>>7508254
Depends on branch. Most of the Navy guys I know did fairly well for themselves because you have to have some modicum of intelligence to join the Navy. Army, guard, and marines all have that issue though.

>>7502818
>enjoy catching herpes from fucking that cute waitress that later turned out to be a psycho bitch with a pill addiction.

What the fuck were you expecting? All waitresses are drug addicted and herpes infested psycho bitches.

>>7502559
yes op i am a sous cheff in a restaurant and its hard work for a low pay
so run while you still can dont be a cook
there are way better jobs.

Just started out working at a good restaurant this week, shit is fun as fuck, everybody is fucking crazy. And the times are great for my insomnia.

>>7505156
Man, this thread reminds me why I went back to college.

>>7504437
BOH handles banter like an american, baka tbhdesu

>>7502842

Lol what ever hippy. What the fuck do you think most of the military does? Hint: it ain't kicking doors. It's supporting the guys who do the shooting. At an 8:1 ratio in fact. Cooks, truck drivers, electricians, warehousemen, carpenters, techibicans, IT guys, water dogs.

>>7509752
>that angry ex-military guy
I love reading your posts, you're like a completely different species than us humans

Tell us the one about how if you've ventured outside of the podunk meth town you were born in, the only possible explanation was you joined the military and murdered brown people armed with spears using $50,000 shoulder launched missiles because HOO-HAH

>>7509783

My dad was career navy Surgeon. I'm not from some backwater shit hole like where you find Army bases. Navy bases am require deep water ports and infrastructure ergo costal cities. My job wasn't killing people directly I fixed fricken lasers on aircraft (which I was paid a decent salary to do)I did 5 years in the Navy and used my baby killing money (post 9/11 GI Bill) to go to college and become an electrical engineer graduating with zero student loan debt.

Like everything in life the military is what you make it. It's a tremendous opportunity for poor kids and there are plenty of minimally dangerous jobs. People like you do a great disservice to young guys looking to improve their lot in life. My dad was a medic (Corpsman) in Vietnam and stayed in the reserves while in college and medical school. He was the first in his family to go to college.

>>7507795
>>7506388

Thanks for the input, anons!

>>7509840
What is your opinion on people who don't go through combat or even leave the country and then parade around social media acting like a veteran and trying to get free food from restaurants by playing the military card?

>>7503878
It's almost the opposite where I work. We're all fucking around cracking jokes and having fun in the kitchen, even on busy nights must of the time because we have our shit down and hardly ever run into problems. Then the servers come back all stressed out from dealing with asshole customers and they leave the kitchen upset because they can't handle the bantz.

I have only been in the industry four months, my second job. But I have loved cooking and appreciated food for years. The work is intense, but I love it. I feel respected by customers and friends as a person of skill and professionalism. I could see myself keeping this passion in the future.
Picture is a plate I made.

>>7502922
>The chances of making it big are less than the chances of being a rock star, it doesn't matter how good you are.

On top of working long hours and shit pay, you have to deal with and endless stream of pedantic assholes that think that they are the next big shit.

>>7510564
>I feel respected by customers
confirmed for having never working in a restaurant

>>7510564
>I have only been in the industry four months.

"LOL please remember this comment 5 years of now" was the first thing that poped into my head but i actually hope everything turns out good for you anon.

>>7510617
I work a sushi bar, that plate was given to a customer seconds after the picture. Old friends/teachers are impressed and people usually respect the skill it takes. Then again, I am also where people can see me, talk to me, watch me work.

>>7509840
>be from shit town
>join navy as a weather forecaster cake job
>fantastic hours, allow me to earn a real degree while I'm in using tuition assistance that doesn't touch my GI Bill
>just gave my GI Bill to my son, so his college is already completely paid for (he's 3)

Goddamn I made a good decision; about to go on shore duty with even less responsibility and make the navy fund my masters. Next sea tour I'll make them fund my doctorate.

>>7510640
Are you one of those white guys that makes sushi?

>tfw I've only worked cute happy little family restaurants and have never seen any of this degeneracy

I still have a hard time believing its that bad in some places

aus first yr apprentice here, i get paid 11$ an hour for 40-60 hour weeks im now nocturnal since starting this job on my days off i do pills after work i go to the pub alone get smashed come home smoke a few cones and watch movies till 4 am then wake up go to work right now ive got a full 2 days off in a row which is fucking unheard of because easter and im 13 beers down and this is my diary and i love my job it cured me of depression

TLDR Be a chef but like dont if you're a soft cunt

>>7510780
$11? Jesus fucking christ. I guess it is an apprenticeship though.
Glad you like it though. Work hard.

>>7510498

There are assholes everywhere what can I say? Most guys that have really been in the shit don't talk about it. Braggarts, liars and "professional veterans" are insufferable cunts. I also have a pretty dim view of using social media in general and haven't participated in that data mining since 2010.

>>7510802
No thats normal for a line cook, 15 an hour is top money for a line cook.

>>7511456

I had a guy making $18 simply because he'd been there for almost 20 years.

He only worked one or two stations, and occasionally did inventory/prep lists. He'd also been fired and rehired more than a couple times.

>>7511456

I make 17 an hour working the GM station at a small independant restaurant. But I have 11 years experience.

Its funny because I make more then both the hot side workers who only have like 3 years experience each, working GM is cozy as fuck and not nearly as hot, I haven't been taking showers after work since I started there.

Plus I get complete creative control of the menu on this side, which is a piece of cake since I have worked pastry for 2 years so I make some fun desserts and lots of great appetizers, the boss is an old blood hound who just works expo, he's almost 70 but still a pretty cool guy.

I think I might stick to working GM until I can open up my own little hole in the wall, fuck working hotside anymore.

>>7506412

Kind of silly family, you can make bread pudding or croutons or use those next day for staff meal, or as grilled bread for charcuterie or fried bread for a pate, thats a lot of bread to throw out.

Plus heres a pro tip, fill up a windex bottle with water and spray down a day old loaf of bread, top and bottom, and throw it in the oven for 5 minutes, the moisture makes it taste like day 1 bread again.

>>7511530

GM is usually just a glorified babysitter who occasionally has to go out and deal with problematic customers, but usually ends up getting a drink and schmoozing at the bar, or spending half their time fucking around on the computer.

>>7511549

GM as in the garde aka salad guy aka appetizer guy, not general manager m80

>>7511551

That makes more sense.

>>7511486
>he'd been there for almost 20 years
>11 years experience

Case and point, basically if you are new to the industry don't expect this kind of money.

>mfw i was ready to go and learn how to be a cook

okay. i'll stay a neet then.

>>7511617

dont let everyone in this thread fool you, not every kitchen job is 100000 hours a week, I work 8 hour days with 2 days off in a row.

>>7511620

do you love your job? do you have regrets?

>>7511620

I work for a small brewpub with 3 locations and a corporate owner, and overtime is pretty highly frowned upon if we're not understaffed.

Of course, if you're a Mexican/S. American with a large family/don't understand birth control you'll likely end up with two jobs.

>>7508204
what does your pay work out to at an hourly rate when you work 100 hrs ?

When I worked in a kitchen they tried to promote me to Sous Chef, but when I figured in the extra hours and variable schedule, I would actually be making way less than my normal job and a 20 hr a week side job.

>>7508275
robotic 18 wheelers are about 5-10 years away. I wouldn't be buying a new 18 wheeler now.

>>7511617
>>7511620
yeah instead of listening to the majority listent to the one guy that has it "good".

>>7511617
get some IT certifications and find your way into an entry level IT job anywhere. It is straight up from there.

Plus in IT they expect you to have no social graces and be a weirdo.

Just don't expect to make 50K with only a A+ certification.

>>7511637

Most BoH salaried jobs end up not paying as much relative to the hours put in.

It's all pretty fucked.

>>7511647
>Plus in IT they expect you to have no social graces and be a weirdo.
Only if you want to be an entry level helpdesk sperg for the rest of your life

I am the owner of my restaurant, we cook only traditional Brazilian food is really comfy for me since I learned cook with granny, she was some master of countryside cuisine. Haute cuisine looks really tough and stressful, you need a lot of stamina and endurance to survive.

I worked during one year at some famous chef restaurant in São Paulo, haute cuisine indeed, but for me he lacked of something that only the simple Brazilian countryside food have. After one year I returned to countryside, to my hometown, but with some nice know how of haute cuisine that I apply to local food... that made a differential who makes everyone flood the restaurant everyday.

As cooker (I don't see my self as "chef") I really love see the face of people when they enjoy the food I made. To survive in this line of work you should be cautious to work somewhere where you can have a future, or least a nice know how to help you to find another easier than to first one.

>>7511456
>11 normal for a line cook
Maybe if you live somewhere with low as fuck cost of living. I make 11.50 as a line cook in a fucking rubios having never worked in a restaurant before. My side job (also fast[meme]casual) pays me 12.50.