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7444179 No.7444179 [Reply] [Original]

Murdering an innocent animal for food is wrong.

>> No.7444182
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7444182

>>7444179

>> No.7444185

>>7444182
If dog was sold in stores around here I would absolutely eat it. I hear it's delicious.

>> No.7444193

>>7444185
I would too, desu, and humans too.
I consider murder wrong desu, sometimes I preffer animal lifes rather than nigga lifes, because they don't matter.

>> No.7444198

>>7444185
me 2

>> No.7444211

>>7444179

Most veganfags that buy into that bullshit have obviously never grown anything, or they'd understand that plants fight for survival the same way animals do, they just do it slower, and their nervous system is different.

>> No.7444216

>innocent

Yeah right, they had it coming and they know it fucking animals

>> No.7444224

I hope you grow all your food hydroponically. Anything from a field is guaranteed to have, at the bare minimum, murdered some mice in its production. In some areas, you'll also get deer and pigs murdered in its production. This is even worse because their corpses are just thrown away.

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>>7444211
It is rare to see a fellow omnivore around these parts, it's brave of you to stand up to vegans and their agenda.

When you think about it, since the invisible skyfather is just a superstitious delusion by christfags, so-called "morality" is also a delusion. Survival of the fittest, that's what I say. Why shouldn't stronger organisms overpower weaker ones for pleasure and survival? If god (who isn't real) existed, I think that's how he would have wanted it anyway. But he doesn't, so the laws of nature prevail. Note that's the real mean bitch mother nature, not this hippie nature that vegans believe. Pic related, it's a vegan right before you eat her flesh LMAO

>> No.7444228
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7444228

people give me shit about being a vegan but ive never felt healthier, spent less on food and i feel morally superior too.

>> No.7444235

>>7444225
Could you have made a more cringe inducing post? This site is for 18+ kid

>> No.7444239

But meat is so delicious

>> No.7444243

I enjoy murdering animals, I think the suffering adds flavor to the meat so I try to be extra sadistic when killing them.

Sometimes I even bottle their tears (cows tend to cry A LOT lol) and use it to salt various cuts.

>> No.7444250

>>7444243
Don't you have some tumblr to be edgy for?

>> No.7444251

>>7444228
too bad you can't eat many good tasting things

>> No.7444252

>>7444228
If you want to embrace true moral purity, only eat parts of the plant it willingly gives up (fruits mostly and only when they fall from the plant). I am horrified as vegans who brand themselves 'compassionate' before proceeding to murder a life form.

>> No.7444257
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7444257

A diet void of B12, low in iron, low in protein = healthy. Vegan logic.

>> No.7444261

>>7444250

I thought tumblr was vegan central.

You sound mad though, are you not enjoying your alfalfa with soy sauce?

>> No.7444266

>>7444243
you need to be eaten

>> No.7444268

>>7444257
Nice memes, anon

>> No.7444269

>>7444261
Nope, you're either just an edgy retard or a vegan trying to shitpost as a "carnist". I swear they use the most retarded phrases.

>> No.7444270

>>7444266

You're mom is already on it lol

>> No.7444272

>>7444257
Sigh, explain why vegans are, overall, much healthier than carnists with lower rates of obesity, heart disease and diabeetees.

Oh that's right, you can't. I'm just glad your ability to influence the world is self limiting while I'll live decades longer.

>> No.7444279

>>7444269

>name calling

And you're either a transgender cockmuncher or a Facebook activist, maybe both.

You're mad though, that's for sure

>> No.7444281

>>7444272
You won't live very long without taking your B12 supplements. If you don't take them, enjoy your dementia and Alzheimer's.

And also, of course vegans aren't fat. The food tastes so shit you hardly want to eat anything. Stay pale anon.

>> No.7444287

Murdering an innocent silent plant for food is evil. m9 (-o-)

>> No.7444292

>>7444281
>the only way to get B12 is meat or supplements

No wonder carnists are so fat and stupid.

>> No.7444317

>>7444179
#NotAllCarnivores

>> No.7444382

>>7444179
Killing an animal is not murder. Murder is the unlawful, premeditated killing of a human being by another human being. Sorry. Inter-species killing will never be considered murder. Eating an animal of another species will never be wrong. The closest to being morally wrong in killing another species for food humans can get is when that species is on the brink of extinction, or when it is an animal of another species under the care (in a pact with) another human being who does not consent to that animal being killed. It is unfortunate for the eaten animal, but very, very few species have made a no-killing pact between themselves. Each species governs itself. You do not govern our species. You do not govern other species, however you may chose to, or choose not to participate in any of the pacts made by our species with other ones. On an individual level, you may eat or not eat whatever you like according to the laws of our species.

>> No.7444390

>>7444382
Keep thinking that, change is coming. Just as a few years ago it was thought acceptable to be prejudiced against minorities, females or anyone LGBT+ you'll soon be prosecuted for killing animals and eating meat.

The times are most definitely a changin'.

>> No.7444391

>>7444179
I agree! How can that lion sleep at night when there are vegan options available?

>> No.7444422

>>7444390
I concede that humans have begun to enter into no-kill pacts with more species in recent times. I do not think that species already under ancient pacts with ours is likely to change any time soon. I do not think your comparison with the struggles of human groups within our species is logical. I don't understand why you're making a mockery of our people's problems. I am suspicious that you do not respect humanity or its laws and morality.

>> No.7444439

>>7444422
Should we kill the mentally disabled too?

>> No.7444456

>innocent

>> No.7444469

>giving a fuck about what a person that's not you eats

>> No.7444470

>>7444439
What does that have to do with anything I said? No. We should not "kill the mentally disabled" humans, because the premeditated, unlawful killing of a human being by another human being is murder, which is one of the main tenets of human morals and laws. So I guess you're safe?

>> No.7444484 [DELETED] 

>>7444470
He didn't say "murder the mentally disabled", he said "kill".

All you have to do is make it legal to kill the mentally disabled, much like how abortion is legal, removing a feeding tube is legal, and transferring someone off the waitlist for organs is perfectly legal.

When you think about it, it makes sense. Carnists should be legal to kill, because survival of the fittest. The virtuous who opt out of the cycle of bloodshed can carry on with their lives while carnists are forced to wear a red arm band signifying that it is ok to kill and eat them, provided you can overcome whatever resistance they may put up.

>> No.7444508

>>7444470
You're arguing that non-human animals have no rights because of a lack of cognitive capacity. Why stop at non-human animals? By your logic, vegans should definitely kill all carnists.

>> No.7444531

>>7444484
And this is where the argument becomes absurd. You are now advocating changing millennia old laws and morals of the human race to include the justification of killing members of your own species whom you do not like by changing the definition of murder to not include them in the human race. You wish to end the cycle of bloodshed of animals of other species by murdering your own. This is an illogical, immoral, and hypocritical point of view. A human is within his moral rights to kill another human who tries to deprive him of his life or freedom. Again, you don't govern the human race. You don't get to decide things like this.

>> No.7444537

>>7444531
>muh traditions

>> No.7444539
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>>7444251
there are plenty of tasty vegan things. sugar is vegan.
>>7444252
its not about purity, its about not abusing animals.
>>7444257
nothing wrong with taking a b12 pill. the modern diet is so awful a lot of people are deficient in many things. not a good measure of healthiness.
>>7444469
people shit on vegans all the time for what they eat. but they don't eat other beings like carnivores do. we owe it to animals to point it out.

>> No.7444551

>>7444539
>its not about purity, its about not abusing animals.

I feel the same way about you as you do about carnists but you're actually worse because you're a hypocrite.

>> No.7444554

>>7444508
No, I never said animals have no right because of a lack of cognitive capacity. I don't know where you got that from. You pulled that out of your ass, just like you pulled out the bogus argument for killing mentally disabled humans. I think many animals are very intelligent. But they are not humans, and many species of animals have not entered a pact with us. I do not govern humanity.

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>>7444225
>shitposting this hard

>> No.7444574

>>7444211
Plant nervous system and immune response is actually very fast. Plants feel and react to stimuli and threats as quickly as other life forms.

>> No.7444601

>>7444272

Don't type actions into your post, it tells everybody you're from tumblr. Also, citation please.

>> No.7444618 [DELETED] 

>>7444601
Anyone who says "from tumblr" as though it is a meaningful critique of another person's point of view automatically loses all credibility.

I hope you youngsters understand that tumblr has only existed for a few years and most of these opinions you think were invented by a bunch of servers in a data center, actually have been around for a long time.

>> No.7444660

>>7444618
As a courtesy, I am informing you that that poster is not me. I am the person who has stated the definition of murder, and has been refuting logical fallacies about human morals.

>> No.7444667

>>7444618
>automatically loses all credibility.

Sort of like posting with a silly name and a tripcode on an an anonymous board, right?

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>>7444216
We all have it coming anon

>>7444539
The only thing you can give to animals is your own flesh

>> No.7444775

I only kill the guilty ones.

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>>7444179
What if it's a guilty animal?

>> No.7444955

>>7444292
Okay, explain to me how you get enough B12 on a vegan diet without supplements. Fortified foods aren't enough. And I'm dead serious, if you are vegan you absolutely MUST take a B12 supplement or you are putting yourself at an extreme risk for dementia and Alzheimer's when you are older. This is why vegans and vegetarians have higher rates of brain degenerative diseases, they don't take enough B12.

>> No.7444960

>>7444539
Standard white sugar is not vegan. It is whitened with animal bones.

>> No.7445009

If meat is murder. Does that mean that murder is meat?

>> No.7445019

its only okay to eat animals that attack you first
i've only ever eaten two dogs, a rabid squirrel, and a human

>> No.7445048

>>7444225
Hi there!

You seem to have made a bit of a mistake in your post. Luckily, the users of 4chan are always willing to help you clear this problem right up! You appear to have used a tripcode when posting, but your identity has nothing at all to do with the conversation! Whoops! You should always remember to stop using your tripcode when the thread it was used for is gone, unless another one is started! Posting with a tripcode when it isn't necessary is poor form. You should always try to post anonymously, unless your identity is absolutely vital to the post that you're making!

Now, there's no need to thank me - I'm just doing my best to help you get used to the anonymous image-board culture!

>> No.7445066 [DELETED] 

>>7445048
>your identity has nothing to do with the conversation
But you're wrong there. On the other hand, your copypasta has nothing to do with the conversation.

>> No.7445076

>>7444955
Vegemite.

>> No.7445082

>>7444182
Dogs are our pets, pigs are grown for food (generally). I don't see what is hard to understand? If pigs had helped us hunt, guard our houses etc. then maybe they would be alongside dogs today.

>> No.7445088

>>7444179
literally what is wrong with treating livestock well, feeding them good food that they like, letting them roam around a field with their chums, and then killing them quickly when they're of a prime age for slaughter.

livestock don't have fucking dreams or aspirations, what does it matter if you kill a pig to eat before they get old and die naturally?

the problem is cruel slaughter of animals, not the actual consumption of them.

>> No.7445091

>>7444193

If dog is mans best friend, I'm sure dog meat and long pork go great together!

>> No.7445224

>>7445066
Hi there!

You seem to have made a bit of a mistake in your post. Luckily, the users of 4chan are always willing to help you clear this problem right up! You appear to have used a tripcode when posting, but your identity has nothing at all to do with the conversation! Whoops! You should always remember to stop using your tripcode when the thread it was used for is gone, unless another one is started! Posting with a tripcode when it isn't necessary is poor form. You should always try to post anonymously, unless your identity is absolutely vital to the post that you're making!

Now, there's no need to thank me - I'm just doing my best to help you get used to the anonymous image-board culture!

>> No.7445239

>>7444185
I've had it. Made one hell of a flauta.

>> No.7445259

>>7445088
fucking this.

>> No.7445263

>>7444179

The only reason people can be vegan/vegitarian is because we're so advanced as a society it became an option. Go back to the stone age and find some tofu, please.

>> No.7445294

>>7444179
I only murder guilty animals

>> No.7445304

>>7444193
Kill yourself you illiterate faggot.

>> No.7445517

>>7445259
>>7445088
The problem with that is that raising livestock sustainably for meat isn't possible on a scale that would match the rate of consumption today's society has.

>> No.7445564

>>7444179
Every time I read the word "murder" on the Internet I get a massive craving for meat. Time to go buy some steak. Keep coming back and posting daily OP; without your constant reminders and support I might forget to have meat for all three daily meals.

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>mfw eating meat

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>>7445517
>I have never heard of poultry

>> No.7445608 [DELETED] 

>>7445517
That's because carnism has convinced people that you need a meal consisting mostly of meat 3x a day 365 days a year or you'll die of B12 deficiency and the protein will be so incomplete your muscles will fall out.

Literally the only thing a carnist can say in response to this is "but vegan junk food isn't nutritious". As if the only alternative to eating microwave tendies and ranch is to eat luna bars or whatever. This is because carnists never learned to cook.

>> No.7445710

>>7445608
I bet I could break you in two, little man.

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>>7445608
>this much implying
>damage control defcon 3

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7445728

come back hippie vegan shitposter u were my only friend
>literally implying

>> No.7445801

>>7445728
Sorry I'm on my phone and it's a pain to post. The carnist mods decided food and cooking aren't to be discussed here, so you may now return to arguing about McDonalds and getting "cucked" by your ex roommates.

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>>7445801
>defcon 4

>"cucked" by your ex roommates.
not even that anon, cuck meme is old fag hat

>inb4 permabanned.

>getting this monster back on the tracks
what do people think of pescatarians? Is killing feeesh immoral?

>> No.7445835

>>7445825
Lrn2 defcon youngster, the higher numbers are less alarming

Also "cuck" is from /pol/ times, I'm from the times when /n/ wasn't a good board

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>>7444390
>prosecuted
>when the meat industry is as big as it is
This is what mentally ill people actually believe

>> No.7445869

>>7444179
then get cultured meat/fat/milk available in stores

>> No.7445880

>>7444955

Sourdough bread. Lots of fermented foods have it.

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>>7445835
>mods use B&
>super effective
>tripfag threat reduced,vegan threat remains

>/n/
>a good board

lrn2 shitpost grandpa

>> No.7445884

I don't mind eating meat and I do not care about animals but I wish as a society we ate less since it's bad for the environment and inefficient.

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>>7445884
I will admit that our ag culture in the US is broken, but since when is meat a less efficient use of land?
>can use land that is too steep for plowing for cattle
>poultry, especially ducks, paddocked with cattle eat flies and other pests while reducing the need for bird feed and cattle antibiotics.
where we're going wrong is grainfeeding livestock in centralized locations and using most of our arable land to grow grain instead of letting them graze naturally all over the continent. USDA inspected slaughterhouses are getting rarer by the day b/c the industry is so centralized now so local producers will only get rarer and reinforce the factory farm system.
>inb4 nobody wants to pay $12 for a pound of beef

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7446033

meat?

>> No.7446040

>>7446025
>That quality
How are you supposed to watch qt robutt in low definition?

>> No.7446273

>>7444539

still, what about a complete protein source?

>> No.7446314

>>7445082

>Dogs are our pets

This needs to be phased out anyway

#dogmeat2016

only cats should be pets

>> No.7446367

>>7446314

>Cats are our pets

This needs to be phased out anyway

#catmeat2016

only fish should be pets

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