/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>6613751
I was cooking lunch today and realized too late that the chicken I was going to make had gone bad. All my other meat was frozen and would have taken too long to get ready, so I had no choice but to have a vegan friendly meal. Am I a faggot now?

>>6613760
Yeah seems like it bud

>>6613760
Yes lmao

No, I guess I should elaborate a bit.
See, salads and things like that are fine and dandy, what I dislike is when people want to outlaw meat in favor of all vegetarian food.
What I hate is when people spout that meat kills you and insist that your body is some sort of temple.

I dont hate vegetarian foods, I hate what they insist food should be.
Also im kind of drunk so sorry if this rant is barely coherant.

>>6613763
:(

Im fine with it as long as they arent douchers

I just hate the food. Vegan meat, etc. Wanna eat meat? Then fucking do it. Fuck off with your fake bullshit

>>6613751
I also base my opinions of broad categories of people on baseless stereotypes.

>>6613751
Pompous people are the worse, that's true.

>>6613751
>deep-seeded
>deep
>seeded

I'm a vegan but I hate telling people. I like to keep it to myself.

I do it because I get better performance athletically (I do triathlons) and I have a deep empathy for living things (the kind with nervous systems).

The meat industry is also bad for the environment and red meat is proven to be bad for you. I must admit that health and longevity is an obsession of mine.

>pic related

The cow obviously enjoys living and breathing just like I do, and it surely doesn't need to die for my substance, evidenced by the fact that I've been vegan awhile and I don't feel any deficiency in my body.

>>6613751
I don't eat meat at all but it started as a joke. I was pretending to be a vegetarian to fuck with my meat-loving friends and decided to see how long I could do it for. I realized that not only did I not really care for meat in the first place but there is almost always a naturally vegetarian option. I don't have to go out of my way to bother others with my dietary needs. I just eat. Most people don't even notice that I'm vegetarian. I don't even care about animals or any potential "health benefits" or anything like that. I just eat what I like and I've been doing it for five years now.

I hate faggots like OP that try to get "cool points" by hating people far more than people on diets. Go fuck yourself.

My previous roommate was vegetarian and wasn't a dick about it. My next roommate is also vegetarian, hoping its not too bad. The thing about vegetarian food is that it's mostly underseasoned. I can cook a real badass vegetarian meal. I would switch over if I could find a cheaper protein source compared to chicken.

I only hate the ones that say that vegan/vegetarian food can actually taste good and that they do better at health/athletics because of it....

>>6613794

All of this.

I think Indian vegan food is fucking fantastic not only because of taste but because unlike western vegan shit, it's not trying to be something it's not.

>>6613892

>Hating people for opinions
>Hating people for stating facts

You're not satisfied with your life are you?

>>6613908

>implying most vegans actually buy that fake garbage

>>6613855
everything in this post is fine but red meat is not bad for you.

>>6613914

They wouldn't be selling it if it wasn't popular. The worst offender by far is vegan cheese.

>>6613908
Indian food tends to be vegetarian, not vegan. It's frequently full of ghee.

>>6613916
yes it is, you're fucking stupid

>>6613986
No it's not, you silly '90s mom.

Were you one of the guys who lost his shit in this thread?

>>6605267

I really don't understand why someone would be legit angry at people for not eating meat. Could you try explaining yourself without resorting to calling people faggots? You could be interesting if you tried, friend! :D

>first job was a waiter at a vegan cafe, even though i'm not vegetarian, only worked there because some people I knew got me a job there
>first customer orders "vegan bacon poutine"
>almost burst a blood vessel
>quit after first day
fuck you asshole, you made your choice. you don't get bacon analogues and veggie gravy.

>>6613751

>what I hate more then them

I usually don't reply to veg threads, but bad grammar pisses me off just about as much online as vegans do irl.

>>6614572
Are you okay with turkey bacon or is that enough to throw you into a hissy fit too? [SERIOUS]

Most vegans I know have a mental illness of some kind and usually had an eating disorder as a teen or young adult.

>>6614631
and are often huge hypochondriacs

>>6613802
But anon, Hitler was a vegetarian

>>6613884
BEANS
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I don't mind vegans as long as they force it on me.

>>6613751
I hate having to accommodate anyone with special diet requests at the last minute. If you're allergic to something, or have ethical/religious prohibitions about this and that please tell the person doing the cooking well in advance. That ought to be just a matter of courtesy.

But I'm really happy to see more and more vegan options popping up in restaurants. Not because I'm vegan, but because if I'm in the position where I have to grab a cheap bite on the run it's nice to be able to sidestep eating the lowest possible quality of meat and cheese.

>>6613751
>sure there are good salads

>>6613855
b8

>>6613892
>I only hate the ones that say that vegan/vegetarian food can actually taste good

But it can. If you can't make a decent meal with all the vegetables, fruits, pulses, grains, spices and herbs at your disposal, plus eggs and dairy products for vegetarian meals, you are a shitty cook. If your enjoyment of a meal depends solely on whether there is meat in it and you cannot appreciate any of the hundreds of delicious meals that don't contain meat, you have extremely stunted tastes. I'm not vegetarian or vegan and I wouldn't give up meat, but there are plenty of vegetarian meals out there that are fine in themselves and don't need to be smothered in bacon to make them delicious.

>>6615873
I was unaware that eggs were a vegetable

>>6615884
>vegetarian food

Vegetarian food includes dairy and eggs, you specimen. It's not just literally 'vegetables'.

>>6615884

Your reading comprehension is poor.

>>6615873
>there are plenty of vegetarian meals out there that are fine in themselves and don't need to be smothered in bacon to make them delicious.
This. I'd much rather eat a vegetable based meal than eat poor quality meat. I'll take beans over supermarket quality chicken or foodservice grade ground beef. If something died for my meal it had better be goddam delicious (and I'll happily pay more for that), otherwise it's just a waste.

Why would I have a problem with vegans or vegetarians? I've never come across a vegetarian or vegan who was an asshole about it. Yes, if you ask them they're going to answer your question.

In my country we eat a lot of shitty and overcooked meat. I simply don't care for it and seriously don't get why others do. Meat is fucking glorious when it's good. I would love to see a shift away from low quality meat. I have a lot more respect for a vegetarian than the guy who claims he needs his "brotein" with every meal - fuck that's pathetic.

I'm not a vegetarian and I think veganism is borderline insane but I think everyone would be better off being a little more skeptical about what they shove down their throats.

>>6613751
>be cashier
>see a woman buying gay vegan cheese
>ugh
>look at ingredients
>first one is "combination of oil (including palm oil)
>palm oil

in my experience there's a vocal minority which i despise, but that's true for just about everything. most of them don't give a fuck about your eating habits and won't discuss the topic *at all* unless asked but since there's that vocal minority of idiots and since it's hip to hate anything vegetarian/vegan people hate them as a group instead.

do the following experiment:
whenever you hear someone complain about how vegans/whatever always have to mention it or if you catch yourself thinking just that, try to rewind the conversation and watch who started it. you'll find it's not usually them and in those cases it is it's usually the same few people which are easily avoidable.

inb4 different opinion therefor clearly a vegan

>>6615909
>vegans buying palm oil products

This really bothers me.

>>6615905
literally nothing wrong with meat. It's just that vegetarians have a more healthy lifestyle

>>6615890
>implying there aren't many kinds of vegetarianism
some vegetarians dont eat dairy products or eggs

>>6616214
In fact, they came up with a name for it - veganism.

>>6616214

Yes, so it's absolutely correct to say-
>vegetables, fruits, pulses, grains, spices and herbs at your disposal, plus eggs and dairy products for vegetarian meals
-which separates the strictly vegan and vegetarian-only ingredients, depending on which diet you're talking about. There is nothing wrong with that, you read it wrong because you were in such a hurry to make your sarcastic hurr-eggs-are-vegetables-now post that kind of backfired.

>>6613928
I used to be Vegan and I can confirm that this is not true. I eat cheese every day now and I still think that daiya "cheese" is delicious.

>>6613884
Tofu, beans.

>tfw all Vegans are fags and you eat meat in front of them to make them whine and complain; but ignore them and keep feasting.

>>6616361
Tofu and beans are both better than American supermarket chicken, that's for sure.

>>6616385
And if you're worried about phytoestrogens, tempeh, miso, and any other fermented soy product doesn't have any of the issues that tofu does.

>you have one life
>you waste it following some bullshit, attention whoring, fad eating regiment for attention

I've been vegan for a few years. I like it, but it's a personal choice. I don't care if other people aren't vegan. I would like it if they were, but most people never will be, and I'm not retarded enough to think otherwise, so I'm well over that. The only "preachy vegans" I've ever met have been fags about everything, not just being vegan, and they're also usually new vegans. New vegans are as bad as new atheists, for sure. I don't like most imitation meat or cheese, but Gardein Chick'n Sliders are pretty good, and I like vegan burgers since they're really just bean patties most of the time. Daiya cheddar slices and veganaise are pretty good, too. But the "if you want to eat meat, just eat meat, not imitation" argument is something I agree with for the most part.
tl;dr I don't care if people aren't vegan, and some of the criticisms people make are totally valid, but I wish people would recognize that the biggest faggot vegans were faggots before they went vegan.

The fucking retarded thing is that I have never seen a vegan or vegetarian come to this board 'preaching' their beliefs. The only non-meat eaters are the type seen in this post: >>6613855

Ironically, the only obnoxious faggots I ever see on this board when it comes to this debate,and even in real life, are people like OP, OPENLY FUCKING ANNOUNCING how much they hate those who don't eat meat.

The steretotype should be reversed because it's easily meat-eaters who are the overly obnoxious ones, and all it comes down to is an immature false-dichotomy where OP's type assumes that because "they like something different to me" that they must be their enemy.

Fucking stupidity.

if you enjoy struggling to shit then vegan is not for u

>>6616229
not if they eat honey

>>6618128
>The fucking retarded thing is that I have never seen a vegan or vegetarian come to this board 'preaching' their beliefs.
You must be new here.

>>6618160
I'v been browsing /ck/ on and off for years and literally the only people I see getting angry and pushing their habits onto others are militant anti-vegetarian assholes.

>>6618163
You are either lying, blind, retarded, brain damaged, jewish, or some combination thereof.

they smell weird

>>6618163
You need to lurk more.

It's been a while but the vegans (or pretend vegans) like to create threads from time to time preaching the evils of eating meat.

I understand vegans, but I don't see myself going down that road just yet. There is sympathy between humans and animals, you can feel their suffering if you witness it with your own eyes. The problem is people don't understand this sympathy, because they only see meat(food) and not an actual cow, pig, chibken behind it. Don't get me wrong, I love meat and all of our ancestors did. However, they were way much in touch with environment and nature 50, 100+ years ago. To hell with it, a lot of civilizations even had big respect for animals, because they provided them with not just food, but also skin. Same as today, but they knew it isn't just matearilistic object. My problem is with people that defend meat, but don't have the heart to chop off chicken head, put bullet into pigs brain when he is yelling in top of his lungs while 3 men are holding him down so he can't escape the inevitable death. What are your thoughts on this?

I eat a lot of vegetarian food. It's cheap and convenient. When I do eat meat I want good quality beef, or fresh fish. I don't usually eat vegan because I can't be bothered to check if things contain animal products or not.

>>6618179
I've shot and dressed deer, doves, quail, ducks, killed and plucked chickens, and helped slaughter a pig before. I'll agree, it can be unpleasant to do and to watch if you don't have the stomach for it. It's part of life though and people have been doing it for thousands of years and they will continue to do it.

I have no problem with vegans or vegetarians. Just because I like meat doesn't mean that I feel compelled to eat 3 pounds of meat with every meal. I just hate fucking stuck up hipster assclown militant vegans that feel obligated to inform everyone around them that they are vegan and talk shit about anyone who chooses to eat meat.

If someone eats something you don't like to eat, just ignore it and move the fuck on with your life.

>>6618196
Totally agree and I'm happy you don't lie about feeling unpleasant. Nobody feels good killing another animal with its own bare hands, unless you are ignorant scum with big dick ego over your head. In our hunting tradition, when you go to study andget your hunting degree (whatever you call it, so you can legally go and kill wild animals in season) with other hunters or your own..there is a proverb for ever animal you kill, so you show respect to it and nature. Not just kill it and laugh about it after the job is done. Half of my family are jagers (hunters) and they deeply respect animals and nature.

I haven't found an annoying vegan in a long time. Just people whinging about them.

The worst people are the ones who insist you need high amounts of protein with every single meal despite having 14x the RDI and are morbidly obese.

>>6618163
This is exactly what I was going to say.
Yeah I've seen a few threads like this aimed at meat eaters instead of vegetarians, but there are way more throwing hate at vegetarians. And god forbid someone disagree with the meat eaters.

Not all of us think you're "murdering poor innocent animals". Some of us just physically can't eat meat and it has nothing to do with morals.

>Select all images with steak.
kek

>>6618225
>Some of us just physically can't eat meat and it has nothing to do with morals.

The problem is that this is a lot like people with "allergies" and "gluten intolerance".

Yes, there are people who really do have legitimate medical issues whereby they cannot eat certain foods. However, for every one of those there are a dozen others who claim a condition but it's not really true. This is a problem for those who have legitimate medical issues because it appear that they're just full of shit like the "pretenders".

>>6618196
Also I must mention we have 'koline' in our country (at least those who have far), where we slaughter a lot of animals in a day or two for the meat over winter. Let me tell to all of you faggots thinking vegans are overreacting faggots when they say you don't feel bad or sympathy killing animal. When I was 6 and they let out the pig to shoot it in the head, while he was screaming as if someone tore down human skin while still being alive wasn't fun for kids. Parents put us inside the house so we wouldn't witness the shoot, but we could still hear the pig screaming and all of us felt bad as fuck, on edge of crying. Why? Because we were all aware that animal had kids and they killed its mom. Might sound funny, but this is the first instinct I AND other kids got. So where does this instinct goes over the years? The irony is I always laughed at my older cousin sticking finger in butchered pig and licking blood of, because he found it good. So you see, when you are young and are still sensitive about living beings, you don't want to see them die, because you believe it or not 'understand' them. I don't want to sound like a douche defending vegans, but you can't be ignorant of their belief.

>>6618242
And I also understood my half of family needed food to put something on the plate over winter.

I'm interested to hear your thoughts on this?

>>6618165
But its true. You very rarely see vegan threads that aren't obvious b8, but you see this shit almost once a week.

>>6618258
lurk less

I'm in a Marxist political party and there's this guy who is soy and gluten intolerant but is a vegan anyway. He's like a stereotype of the hippie leftist but I have no idea how he's alive.

>>6618261
Show me one of these mystery threads please.

>>6615925
It should! Vegans are retarded and don't know what they're eating

>>6613855

>I have a deep empathy for living things (the kind with nervous systems).
this is why I hate vegans, because their reasoning for being vegan is to have a higher moral high-ground, not because vegan food itself tastes better, they proclaim shit like "I actually CARE about animals" which is suggesting a false accusation on meat eaters lacking "empathy" for animals, what a load of horseshit.

>>6618326
No, you are the idiot. They care and feel so much sympathy for every animal is you do for your dog (if you have one). And you wouldn't eat your beloved dog, would you? Or any pet that you own. I'm meat eater and understand this perspective.

>>6618340
I really doubt that they feel any sort of empathy or sympathy for every single animal, because at the end of the day vegans/vegetarians don't choose to eat what they do because of sympathy, but to feel better than their meat-eating counterparts, give more credit to the human ego rather than instinct for mercy in this case. Corporate farming still effects wildlife, and animal habitats and becoming vegan/vegetarian will not and does not stop the abuse or spare fewer lives for animals. If you eat vegan because you prefer to do so then that's fine, but don't claim you eat because you are just better than the rest of us mouth breathers.

A friend of mine is a vegetarian. He will talk about how he doesn't like when people go out of their way to cater for his needs. Like, when discussing where to go out to eat he'll say "Don't worry about me, mostly every place has at least one vegetarian dish, even if it is usually poor I don't mind :^)" Then we get there and we eat, there will be a handful of vegetarian options and he'll pick the worst one and then complain about it and how more restaurants should cater to vegetarians. He's done this a bunch of times. It's horribly irritating.

>>6618340
I really doubt that they feel any sort of empathy or sympathy for every single animal, because at the end of the day vegans/vegetarians don't choose to eat what they do because of sympathy, but to feel better than their meat-eating counterparts, give more credit to the human ego rather than instinct for mercy in this case. Corporate farming still effects wildlife, and animal habitats,becoming vegan/vegetarian will not and does not stop the abuse or spare fewer lives for animals. If you eat vegan because you prefer to do so then that's fine, but don't claim you are vegan/vegetarian because you are so much better than the rest of us mouth breathers that actually CARE and have EMPATHY/SYMPATHY for every single living creature.

>>6618340
I really doubt that they feel any sort of empathy or sympathy for every single animal, because at the end of the day vegans/vegetarians don't choose to eat what they do because of sympathy, but to feel better than their meat-eating counterparts, give more credit to the human ego rather than instinct for mercy in this case. Corporate farming still effects wildlife, and animal habitats,becoming vegan/vegetarian will not and does not stop the abuse or spare fewer lives for animals. If you eat vegan because you prefer to do so then that's fine, but don't claim you are vegan/vegetarian because you are so much better than the rest of us mouth breathers.Its really a logical fallacy to assume that all vegans/vegetarians choose to eat this way because they actually CARE and have SYMPATHY/EMPATHY for every living creature, that's why its horseshit and that's exactly why you're wrong dude.

>>6618362
>becoming vegan/vegetarian will not and does not stop the abuse or spare fewer lives for animals

Yes but by becoming vegetarian they are choosing to not support the industry that they don't like.

Sure, some people might be vegan because they want to feel superior but why should you let that effect you? Human beings have been eating meat for ages, you're seriously going to let some malnourished herbivore tell you that your moral compass is askew?

>>6618229
Well I can't speak for other people. It's not a medical issue for me.
I think it's because when I was a kid, maybe 5 or so, I asked my mom what the burger I was eating used to be. I didn't eat meat again for almost 10 years. I've tried eating it at least a few times a year since then and it just feels "wrong". Not morally, but I can't even explain how it feels. I'm aware that eating meat is a natural thing, and I have no problem with people who do eat it. It's just not for me. I've never once insulted someone for eating meat and threads like this are frustrating because we aren't all the same.

I can't stand people who act like they're better than other people because of what they eat - whether they're vegetarian or not. Just eat what you want, I'll eat what I want, and we can all be happy.

>Select all images with hamburgers.
kek

Vegetarian from birth.
Not in it for the moral reasons or the health reasons. I just don't get the chance to try good meat.
Like, I'm not gonna go out to a restaurant to buy a good steak because if I don't like it, I've wasted good money.
If I buy a shitty burger from McDonalds, I'll be put off because it's probably crappy tasting.

Staying vegetarian because I still get to make shit like this.

I like vegetarian meat replacements.
But I'm not a vegetarian and I only eat it because it's tasty.