/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>6585938
>thinking the entire FoH makes that kind of money
That's not how it works

>>6585987
>implying for especially servers don't make any money or a thing called tips

>>6585987
>>6586009
FOH carries home a lot of cash, but I've never met a waitress who was actually good with her money.

>>6586024
Obviously if they can't move around. Most are blitzed, hung over, or so bitchy

>>6585987

they still make a hell of a lot more than the BoH and probably work 20% as hard

and if they're servers at a high end restaurant they do make that kind of money, the place I work at isn't even that expensive (average entree cost about $22) and they make around $35-40 an hour during any dinner service if you include tips.

>>6586024

>they don't spend their money well so it doesn't count

o-ok

>>6586009
>>6586024
>>6586039
FOH =/= All servers

Running is far, far worse pay than chefing for instance

As for how much severs make themselves, it varies so wildly from place to place it's hard to put a figure on it. But it's perfectly true that for the amount of time servers work, they earn more. The likes of hostesses earn a higher wage, but this makes sense, because they can really only work the bussiest hours of service.

>>6586187
In any place from a dennys to a higher scape the servers make more because of tips

>>6587010
Depends on factors such as how much prep time food needs, how many servers on employed, how full the house is, how in favor with the management a server is in order to get busy sections. The ratio of hours worked to amount earned is always going to be in the favour of servers though there's no denying.

>>6588582
On average though a server will make more than the back of the house and you know it.

>>6586187

running is far worse pay than chefing, but generally about the same as what a cook makes and is still much easier

still a shit job though

>>6588582

Outside of the chefs the BoH usually makes minimum wage or just above it, even in high-end restaurants. If you get any tips at all you make more as a server.

>>6586024
That's what I was thinking. They could buy a car... if they didn't blow all of their money on booze, cigarettes, weed, and (sometimes) coke.
I let a server crash at my place for a couple of nights (big mistake) because he couldn't pay his rent and bills, even though he would typically bring home about $150 cash each night. He would clock out, MAYBE freshen up, and hit the bars to blow all of his money. Then he would keep drinking by persuading others to buy him drinks.
Most other servers I've met, while not THAT bad, still have a tendency to drop most of their cash by going out drinking.

In short, I may not be rolling in cash, but at least I know how to save up when I have to. So I'm not so much depressed as I am annoyed.

>>6590215

That makes me even more mad because I make jack shit but I'm great with my money, meanwhile these retards who barely even know what we serve and have no personal responsibility make a shitload just for smiling and pouring soda.

>>6590187
Depends on the restraunt's set up mate. Whether the servers split their tips based on section, or whether it's all in one pot, how the tips are distributed to different elements (i.e bar, runners, chefs), shit plenty of places don't tip out kitchen staff at all. There's a lot of way it can pan out, the thing is with chefs is that with the nature of their role, they have to work a lot more hours, whereas in comparison severs usually work less. Chefs also tend to be on a higher wage; there's very few servers that are going to earn more than minimum except the most veteran.

The gripe isn't so much that servers earn more per se: it's that to earn an equivalent chefs have to put in so much more time. This however doesn't mean a chef couldn't earn more in a given week- he'd just have to put in more work for it than a server. Once again I want to emphasize that this depends a hell of a lot on a restraunts set-up.

>>6590203
I've ran for so long in the past that I feel immune to chefs moaning about tips at this point, I earned £5 an hour as a runner and fuck all else

>>6590237
I've stopped getting mad at it, because how I feel won't change their idiocy. The little joy is that FOH turnover rate is lightning-quick, and the only permanent ones are the down-to-earth servers/hostesses that are great at their job. They actually deserve the money they get - they know exactly how to deal with all types of customers, and the busiest of holidays won't even faze them.

>>6590270
Thanks for providing my point. Yes a chef can earn more but will have to put a lot more work than a foh person . Even a delivery driver Ina rural area can make 250 in tips a week so if a server can't pull that, they are really bad

>>6590270
>Chefs also tend to be on a higher wag

yes, ONLY the chefs

the cooks don't make shit

if I worked 70 hours a week I wouldn't make as much as a server that worked 30

>>6590833
Don't forget that the FoH isn't just servers though m8

>250 in tips
Perfectly common for a server to not make that much in week here, if we're talking after tipping out other restraunt elements in my place they would have to earn 500$ ~ in tips- no easy task if your sections don't have a single table over 5 people. Although this is going to vary on the restraunts policy of service charge (some only apply that if the party is over X in size), location (American's love tipping), venue ect ect ect, there's a lot of moving parts

>>6590838
Salaried or unsalaried? With the former it's can swing either way with how good it is for pay, meaning although it may look decent on paper, with the amount of hours you put in, it amounts to shit (unless you're head chef or something). If it's the latter, i.e hourly wage, it can be a bit better in that respect, or at least more straight forward.

>if I worked 70 hours a week I wouldn't make as much as a server that worked 30
Like i've been saying it depends on a bunch of factors, you would sure as shit would make more than me though