/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>6513872
see
>>6513734

What about potatoes? A couple where I attend services made a chili with potatoes in it, but no beans.
It was really, really fucking good. Easily in the top three chilies I've ever had.

What if I don't like beans?

>>6513890
>beyond preference.

I'm talking about the no true scotsman faggots, not people who simply dislike it.

>>6513872
Some asses can be too anal. Most know the authentic Texas style chili does not contain beans, but I prefer dark red kidney beans in my chili..this will make asses pucker when I tell you I like the chili w/kidney beans on my hebrew national dogs, *gasp*!

>>>>6513882
Years ago a neighbor of mine was making chili with potatoes, at the time the concept blew my mind, but it was very good, and a nice variation. Once every couple of years, I even like macaroni pasta, for chili mac, though never liked spaghetti in my chili.

>>6513895
Okay, but what about potatoes, like in >>6513882
Don't ignore me. Answer! Potatoes: allowed in chili or not allowed in chili?

>>6513902
Why would you put spaghetti with chili? They don't mix.

>>6513902
I resolve to make it myself with potatoes sometime in the future. The couple that cooked the potato chili are from Belize but right along the border with Mexico. I don't know if that's something done down there or not and I've never asked. Another thing they did differently was use goat meat instead of beef.
Truly a great pot of chili-or-chili-like-stew-stuff.

>>6513890
I only enjoy beans in chili. Don't like them by themselves or with any other dish though.

>>6513909
It's just a spicy bolognese.

>>6513909
Tell that to Ohioans, specifically Cincinnatian ones and even more specifically, the Greek-descended ones.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cincinatti_chili

It's basically spicy bolognese with cloves, cinnamon and sugar added.

>>6513909
Sure they do, ChiliMac is an actual dish, and Cincinnati style chili (Skyline, yuck) not only puts chili on top on spaghetti, they put cinnamon in their chili, Greek style. Never cared for it.

I agree you should be able to put whatever you want in your chili, but OP you are a faggot for getting all buttravaged over the opinion of anonymous people on a chinese imageboard.

>>6513927
ChiliMac, as the name implies, isn't made with spaghetti.
I like Cheesy ChiliMac. I add so-called taco cheese to it or mozzarella. Does anyone make it from scratch anymore or is it just me?

I hate chili with beans in it. Its not that it detracts from the flavor or some shit that people whine about but I absolutely hate the texture of beans. If that shit gets overcooked, the texture makes me nauseated, and most of the time when I've had beans, they've been overcooked. However I don't mind refried beans. I don't understand that

>>6513924
>"bolognese"

Yeah maybe if your idea of bolognese is some-kind of tomato based sauce with meat in it. In reality bolognese is mainly meat, wine and milk, there's barely any tomato in it and what is is like a tablespoon on paste.

>>6513872
Agreed. I like okra, zucchini, squash and generally serve it over noodles or rice.

Chili is whatever ingredients you want in it! People need to stop being autistic about "muh authentic". All recipes can be varied however you want them and it's still just like the original.

>>6513933
Dude, it's pasta. There are dozens of shapes and they all taste EXACTLY the same.

>>6513872
>literally
no.

>>6513933
See Skyline chili, you have 2 posts above that are telling you that chili IS eaten w/spaghetti, Obviously foreign.

>>6513951
... I posted one of those two posts about Skyline...
Skyline isn't ChiliMac.

>>6513946
Yeah... but to prepare Cincinatti chili and ChiliMac uses two different methods. Cincinatti chili is spaghetti with a ladel of chili on top and additional toppings if/as desired. ChiliMac, as I know it (if you know a different one, I'd love to hear about it, please), is a casserole of elbow macaroni and chili, kinda like a spicy version of American Goulash.

>>6513942
You're Italian aren't you? Words evolve. This is an international website, and you're in the extreme minority on this one.

>>6513967
Why are you being such a nit-picking little ninny? I merely made two examples of 2 kids of pasta used in chili, what exactly are you bickering about?

>>6513872
>insecure man child detected
>HEY THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH ME AND ONLY FAGGOTS WOULD THING OTHERWISE

You literally fucked yourself, dude. Right in the cornhole.

>>6513948
Ok, so what is literally wrong with it?

>>6513942

Yeah, but you're wrong.

The thick, meaty red sauce is descended from a thick, meaty stew. The choice of spaghetti to mix with the stew is a sign of American/British ignorance to pasta shapes.

>>6514014
>literally
no.

Can you put beans in bolognese?

>>6514003
I can tell you that he's not Italian because I am and despite the "official" recipe, the very, very vast majority of us don't make it like that. Foreigners who want to be hyper authentic do it that way because that's how the Chamber of Commerce of Bologna says to make it, but in reality, very few of us have even a fifth of a fuck to give about what they have to say, even people from Bologna.
There's a split with northerners using tomato paste and beef stock and southerners using puréed tomatoes and no beef stock. Milk or no milk and butter or no butter are about equally divided among cooks throughout the country. Mixed meat is rarer than all beef, but not unheard of.
Like most Italian dishes, how an Italian will prepare it depends heavily on where he or she is from, original recipe be damned.
For example, in and around Lazio, what they call bolognese might be made with tiny meatballs instead of crumbled mince while the Neapolitan version is saucier and not as thick as the one from Bologna.

>>6514020
LOOK OUT, GRAMMAR NAZI DETECTED, EVERYONE EVACUATE THEIR BOWELS.

Hush you.

>>6514010
Not bickering. I asked about ChiliMac. I know it as something separate from Cincinnati chili. If you know it as something else, that's okay, too. We can all be friends, friend. I like you. You have a pretty mouth.

>>6514016
>pasta shapes

Of all the things to be elitist about.

>>6514027
Sure, easy to misconstrue someone's point online. As far as Chili Mac, I just make my chili as usual, boil macaroni and combine. I have never thought about it until this moment, but like lasagna noodles you do not boil, I would think you can cook the macaroni in the chili, maybe? I'm gonna research a no boil, Mac in Chili

>>6514070
you don't wanna do that, they'll add extra starch to the sauce making it taste weird and have an odd color.

>>6514070
IT EXISTS... No boil, 1 pot chili Mac exists...

*hears angels singing*

>>6514080
...and the scratch from the records stifles the angels.

I understand what you're saying and it makes sense, damn the luck.

>>6514014
>I'm so retarded that I couldn't read an entire sentence but feel the need to spout my inchoate, butthurt views anyway

>>6514135
Oh, I read your sentence, buddy. And it was stupid. You started the thread with a post chock full of angry butthurt and now feel inadequate for getting called out on it. You are the manbaby you're so determined to label other people. Manbaby, manbaby, manbaby.........

>>6513872
>pic related

>>6513924
>>6513926
>>6513927
Huh! Weird. I wonder if that's any good. I mean, it is just another meat sauce in a way...

>>6514408
Did I strike a nerve?

>>6514425
God damn Texas is gay

>>6513927
I didn't know about the cinnamon beforehand. There's no Skyline restaurants here, but I found the Skyline frozen chili. Payed like $5 for 1 serving. I thought it was awful - I tasted the cinnamon. I like cinnamon....but not in chili. NOPE. I will never buy that shit again. I can make chili 1000x better than that overpriced shit.

>>6513872
Agreed. If people want to say it's not "authentic", then fine, I'll cede that argument.

But to anyone who says that you shouldn't add beans to chili, then fuck off with that elitist shit. Beans go great in chili and make for a more filling meal.

If people stuck to only eating "authentic" food, then probably 80% of people's diets would be thrown out as a large chunk of most cuisine (domestic and ethnic) was invented only within the last 100-200 years.

>>6515029
I agree. All traditional cuisines have changed a lot in the last 200 years with the introduction of new ingredients. India does cauliflower better than England. Italy does eggplant better than India/China. I agree that traditional recipes are often the best but the fact is most of the traditional dishes wouldn't exist if no one tried new ingredients in old techniques.

>>6513902
>Most know the authentic Texas style chili does not contain beans,

Wrong.

Authentic Texas style chili may or may not contain beans. The only time beans are forbidden is for chili cookoffs. The rest of the time, it is entirely up to the cook whether to include beans or not.

>>6514425

Texans can get fucked anyway.

>>6513872
Has anyone ever tried using butter beans or corn in chili?

>>6513872
The only thing you need for chili is meat and chili powder. It's perfectly acceptable to add things like beans. It was rancher food therefore they'd put whatever they had on hand in the pot.

>>6516349
I've done corn. It wasn't bad.

>>6514425
Calling chili without beans 'chili' makes the baby Jesus cry.

/draws wheelgun, hits the deck

Guys, guys, what if we'd just call chilli WITH beans 'Mexican Spicy Stew'?

>>6516371
Been a long time since I've liked you Phil.

Beans were a staple crop and what makes chili more than mulligatawny (not the British ripoff).

We'll share ammo Phil.

>>6516373

>>6516379
What about brilliant bean-containing bottom burner?

This is how it's done.

>>6517951
Is this some bastard European chili?

>>6517951
>fuck off Texas
10/10

>>6517955
European here. I cook my bastard chili like a gulyás, not like that shit in >>6517951.

I cut up some beef brisket and coat each piece in a mix of 50% sweet paprika and 50% various freshly-powdered chilies until no more powder will stick to them, then set them aside to dry marinate. I sometimes also add cumin, but not always.
I caramelise some onions and garlic in a fucktonne of tallow with beer then add the beef and cook until coloured, but not cooked through.
I top off with a mixture of beef knee stock and puréed fire-roasted red chili.
I like it slow cook until the beef falls apart into tiny shreds, everything is thick and the fat has separated back out and is floating on top, about 5 hours.
Then, if'n I feels like it, I add some beans I prepared in the pressure cooker and let them sit until heated through.
Finally, I serve up in a bowl and eat with homemade corn tortillas or cornbread and some coriander leaves on top.
Bad?

>>6517990
One question.
Are you a rapist?
You sound like a rapist.

>>6517955
Judging by the labels, that's a swede doing it wrong.

Personally, I prefer dried beans.
50/50 rosecoco/black beans.
Whatever beef cuts aren't too costly.
Smoked paprika.
Chipotle, powder or canned.

>>6518003
Statistically speaking, it's very, very unlikely a woman would ever rape anyone, Anon.

>>6518019
Don't believe that. A woman can rape just as good as any man could. It's a matter of confidence.

>>6518048
Besides thinking that it's wrong and that I'd never, I guess I'm not confident enough to do it.

>>6518054
Don't say that. To be an empowered womyn, you need to rape at the patriarchy.

>>6515009
YOURE FUCKING GAY, YANKEE QUEER

>>6518018
I think he might be dutch. Sambal oelek is an indonesian shrimp chili paste that's somehow popular in the netherlands.

>>6518084
Olfabrikken on can of beer - scandi.
Krossade tomater on crushed tomatoes - swedish.


I suppose he technically can be a dutchman living in Sweden.

>>6518068
Nah. That's dumb. So is "womyn."

If chili can't have beans, what should vegetarian chili consist of?

>>6518091
sadness

>>6518084
>shrimp chili
Also, there's zero shrimp in sambal oelek. It's chili/ginger/lemongrass.

>>6518091
Vegetarians.

>>6518095

>>6518094
The wikipedia article is about sambal in general. My bad.

>>6513948
>lol I get bootyblasted by meme words

>>6513872
I agree, op.It's like many things, a preference. but I always use canned light red kidney beans in mine. along with 80/20 ground chuck and canned tomatoes. cook low and slow, agg seasonings you like. (I go easy on the salt "cause many family and friends have blood pressure or kidney problems) Bowl of red and a piece of bread. Chili with out beans is just- hot dog sauce.Also stuff made with white beans, chicken, turkey or tofu is not chilli. It's called soup. Can be good, but not chilli.. (hey we are gonna have chilli, yey! made with ground turkey and white beans Aw.)

>>6517951
YES!

Texas put in its place.

>>6515278
No, you are wrong.

I just looked at atleast 20 entries on Startpage of the recipes of authentic, Texas Chili...from recipes of cooks and in restaurants, not a one contained any bean of any kind in their recipe.

Is it optional, sure.

But the history of chuck wagon chili...has no beans.

>>6513882
> church
> culinarily questionable yet shamefully delicious potato dish

You are from Minnesota and I claim my five pounds.

>>6518493
I used the word "services" because I didn't want to use the dead giveaway phrase "unprogrammed meeting."
I live on the east coast. For a couple sentences more information on the chili and the couple who made it, see >>6513911.

>>6513872
There is nothing better in this world than filling a baked potato with chili and cheese, ommg so orgasmic.

>>6513872
Late to the party, but I'm a hardcore "no beans in chili" guy.

That said, if you're going to add beans to chili, it needs to be like 8 oz. of beans for every 5 lbs. of beef.

>>6518843
amen.

Sup cu/ck/s rate my take on Venison chili I made a few days ago.
Start by rendering a half lb of bacon in a large pot, remove and set aside.
Add 1 red and 1 yellow onion along with 5 cloves garlic to the pot and lighly saute in the drippings.
Finely chop the bacon you set aside and add it to the pot.
Add my proprietary spice blend consisting of chili powder, chipotle chili powder, coriander, cayenne, black pepper, oregano, thyme, cumin and salt. Cook for another minute after adding spices and one small can of tomato paste.
Add can of whole, peeled tomatoes, a can of tomato puree, a can of washed/rinsed beans of your choice and I like to add a can of white homoney.
At this point I add my peppers. I prefer a blend of red, yellow and orange sweets with a few jalapenos or serranos for heat but this is at your discretion. Habeneros or anything else could be used.
In a separate pan I take 1-1.5lbs ground venison, could be beef, and brown it. After straining the fat I add it to the pot.
Now that I have basically all my ingredients in the pot I add stock to the pot covering everything.
I add a cinnamon stick, few bay leaves, a drop or two of liquid smoke and salt and pepper to taste and simmer for as long as I can get away with, stirring occasionally.

I put cannellini beans in an Eggplant Parmigiana. I don't give a fuck.

>>6518846
>That said, if you're going to add beans to chili, it needs to be like 8 oz. of beans for every 5 lbs. of beef.

Nonsense, chili was developed by Mesoamericans as a BEAN stew, to which meat _might_ be added if any was available.

>>6515002
Cincinnati here. Skyline is the worst place for Cincinnati chili around here. Goldstar beats the shit out of it, and making your own stomps it even harder. It's basically just really fine ground beef mixed with chili seasoning and water until you reach the consistency you like. Served on hotdogs or over a spaghetti with a bigass handful of sharp cheddar cheese on top.

>>6513872
Does anyone remember that hoax of the 'finger in the chili' thing that woman perpetrated against Wendy's? I hate that bitch because I stopped enjoying Wendy's chili until I found out the whole thing was a hoax, so she stopped me from enjoying their fine chili for a while.

I like beans myself, but I find sometimes they don't cook enough in the pot and come out quite hard and flaky so I generally don't bother with them myself unless I go pleb and just use a jar of chili sauce that has them in it already

>>6515005
What are you, stupid?
>trying to backpedal using generic insults

>>6519959
You best be joking, son. They make that slop from the burgers they find on the floor.

>>6520070
You're full of shit. They wouldn't be able to get away with that.

>>6520105
It's in their employee training videos.