/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>6512772
>18 yo
>philosophy
troll detected, nice bait tho

>>6512782
please laugh in my face.

So, to start off with here's the a la carte menu. They had a taster menu and a bunch of other specialised ones but we went for the good old fashioned a la carte.

>>6512795

>>6512795
Before even looking at the menu though we started off with a 2 glasses of bubbly. I'm not sure what it was, because my friend ordered but it tasted decent.

Rather absent-mindedly, I was too engrossed with discussing summer and University plans to take a picture. So, to compensate, here's a stock photo of champagne lol.

>>6512795
>tomato candles
They're edible?

>>6512807
We were also asked if we wanted mineral or sparkling water and we chose mineral. The champagne was bubbly enough as it was.

At the same time, we were given our menus and a man came around with a bread basket. He explained all the different types of bread and asked each one of us in turn which one we wanted. Being a bunch of greedy guts we told him to just put the whole thing down in the middle so we could choose at will. To our surprised he did just that.

You can see in the picture, there's mini croissants, baguettes, mini brioches, spinach bread, some weird spiky bread with what tasted like ground up nuts or something baked into it and a whole bunch of other stuff. Very colourful, to say the least.

There's also some salted and unsalted butter on the side. Some other places sometimes give you mushroom butter, tomato butter, olive oil butter too, but here it's just salted and unsalted.

>>6512814
I went straight for the mini brioches. They were really buttery, soft and seemed to just melt in your mouth. Delicious.

What were your HL/SL and EE on.

>>6512772
Are those prices in USD?

>4chan my personal blog

>>6512827
You must be fucking retarded.

>>6512795
Just googled, HK$ 500 Hong Kong dollars is around $65 US or € 55 EUR.

Nice that they offer and highlight a couple vegetarian dishes.

>>6512823
So it came time to order and drinks-wise we got 2 bottles of the New Zealand Te Koko Sauvignon Blanc between the 4 of us.

The wine was all about texture, minerality, complexity and what I can only describe as a free spirit, a wine telling its own special story as it expands on the palate. The Sauvignon Blanc typicity still shines through it, though it is more subtle, refined and incredibly complex. With every whiff and taste it continued to unfold and draw you in. Well, says the experts lol.

Personally, I found it slightly acidic and gingery, I'd highly recommend it.

Food-wise I started with the Maine Lobster, egg mimosa and leek salad with wasabi sauce.

It was a big dish, mind you and could easily have been a main. Methinks it's to do with the Chinese clientele demanding why they were getting such small portions for their buck.

Anyway, the meat was amazing, not rubbery at all and very easy to cut, yet still firm. Perfection. The leek underneath was crunchy and mixed with the egg and japanesy sauce/wasabi it gave this amazing asian fusion flavour to the whole thing. The claws, I left because I don't like the texture of lobster claws and friend #1 ate them.

Oh and I chucked the head at friend #2 who hates seafood, she wasn't happy lol.

>>6512840
Ikr. Most of the time, so many restaurants only have 1 shitty vegetarian dish. It's nice that they cater to the growing hippy demographic.

>>6512854
So once that was done, we realised that we'd run out of wine. Being a bigger red fan than I am of white, I insisted we order a Bordeaux 2005. I settled for the Lynch Bages and it was amazing.

For non-wine folk, Bordeaux 2005's are some of the best wines every made. As in, Hall of Fame EVER. So, despite being pricey (US$310 per bottle) we ordered two.

It tasted old but in a good way and conjured up images of leather, tobacco, old bookcases and sophistication. It went down super smoothly with my mains too and had this amazing bite and lingering taste too it.

Here's a link for reference. As you can see, it's been rated as 5/5.

http://www.bbr.com/products-1148-2005-ch-lynch-bages-pauillac

>>6512869
Here's the cork.

>>6512875
Anyway, we decanted the wine and when the mains came poured it then.

I ordered the quail (Le Caille). It came with free-range foie gras, mashed potatos and some sort of weird vegetable thingy. The foie gras was wrapped within the two breast meat pieces.

The quail was succulent, gamey and the foie gras added this lovely fatty flavour and buttery texture to the breast meat. The mashed potatoes were very creamy (I suspect they added lots of cream to it) and had no lumps. It was almost puree like and went very well with the quail. My only gripe was the weird tasting vegetables on the side. I ate them separately.

>>6512885
My mistake, I forgot that we had an amuse bouche too.

On the left was a shot glass of some tomato and avocado concoction and on the right was some quinoa/sesame/egg yolk fritter.

>>6512890
Gonna eat lunch, brb. I'm hungover too, blergh.

>>6512894
Back.

For dessert I ordered the chocolate dish. It was really good and was basically ice cream on top of a chocolate mousse. The ice cream was made out of Kit Kat and was bursting with flavour. The mousse was too thick though and was almost like fudge.

>>6512955
Here's after I took the chocolate ring off and ate it.

>>6512957
A special mention goes out to the dessert table. Where you pick out 3 things and have it with sorbet. I was too impressed to remember to take a picture, so here's a google image of it.

Honestly, it was amazing. Friend #1 had a coffee profiterole, millefeuille and some cake from it.

>>6512964
Last, but not least, after stuffing ourselves with dessert. We were given some petit fours.

There were some cakes, macarons, some silver chocolate balls and other stuff. I only took a picture after we polished 3/4 of it off, unfortunately. It was a nice end of meal touch and I love restaurants that do them. It really completes the dining experience in my opinion. We were pretty drunk at that point too, so we were just stuffing it down our gullet.

Needless to say, we went out afterwards and got even more drunk. I got back at 5am and now in need of some pocari, TV and sleep.

I wish I had a rich daddy to buy me a Michelin recommended dinner and a useless degree.

Also, you write like a douche.

>>6512973
Lol wtf is this food and plating?

>>6512985
I don't have a degree yet. University starts in September and that's when the real fun begins.

And truth be told, my parents work hard and worked their way up. There's nothing wrong in giving to your kids.

>>6512987
It was food from end to end. We demolished most of it in our drunk state before I realised I forgot to take a picture.

>>6512990
>And truth be told, my parents work hard and worked their way up. There's nothing wrong in giving to your kids.


this is what spoiled kids actually think lmao

>>6512990
i can almost say for certain my family is wealthier than yours.

everything ive ever enjoyed, including fancy restaurants was paid by the sweat of my own labor.

enjoy being a useless, entitled cunt.

nothing came "with blueberry?"

>>6512996
They did though and there is nothing wrong with giving your kid a generous allowance, especially when aforementioned kid just killed himself studying and doing his International Baccalaureate exams.

>>6513003
Just because your parents were stingy it doesn't mean you have to be a rabid hater. It's cool, I get that some parents have a philosophy of making their kids pay their own way. That's completely fine and in fact, my cousins live under that sort of regime. But don't suddenly turn around and give snark to people who were brought up under a different regime.

>>6512772
>as an 18 year old whose passion lies in philosophy

They're very good, but the rating system should be crucified for this bullshit.

Robuchon is nothing that a family can't do better on a drunken bender.

I think Asian food is extremely overrated as a whole. People have been fucking brainwashed into thinking that we don't do it better in the west. In spite of the extreme dedication we take unto it at times.

We know how to prepare everything that they do. Yeah I'm ranting, but fuck everyone that thinks that food is the best. Hong Kong and Sapporo are my favorite food cities but fuck them. We have a much better time cooking and eating in my own home.

>>6512825
Hello, I just saw this so excuse the late reply.

HL = English, History, Biology

SL = Environmental systems and societies, French, Maths studies

>>6513012
Oh man, if you think I'm a snob, /lit/ would blow your mind.

>>6513020

Dunno, there's some down-to-earth dudes there, but they mostly get drunk and shitpost about Joyce.

>>6513013
It's not Asian food though. It's French food with Asian influences and they strike that fine line between fine dining and pretentious, extremely well. There's no eating off dustbin lids or anything like that, which I hate, but it was still a great dining experience.

>>6513013
Nigga u sound mad as fuck. And poor.

>>6513020

Those fucking pricks still won't read Shibumi so to hell with them.

It's a fantastic novel.

They're not snobs, I'm a snob. Those people are just morons who won't read a great book just because it has a general Japanese theme.

>>6513020
I use /lit/ to discover new reads sometimes. Theres a reason I don't browse there anymore

>>6513020
Do you think that image represents a snob or something?

>>6513023
>>6513031
In all honesty, I mostly go straight to the philosophy threads and blank everything else.

>>6513029
What the hell is Shibuma?

>>6513027

I think honesty is better than a pretentious nature.

How does that make me angry in any way?

That restaurant is not particularly good. They simply take ingredients that are pretty bad and dress them up.

Should I be impressed because you overdressed a dish with saffron?

>>6513036
I haven't been to /lit/ for over a year, but the philosophy threads I saw all looked like high school kids trying to think for the first time. But I guess you're still 18, and everybody has to start somewhere.

>>6512885
>this presentation

>>6513010
ib is insanely easy. its nothing impressive.

>>6513010
>stingy
>rabid hater

lol please get out of /ck/

>>6512772
Thanks OP for the pictures and congrats.

>>6512805
Why would you go for A3 Wagyu when you can get A5 Wagyu. And at 200AUD I would get the Guinea fowl with a whole duck Foie Gras. that serves 2 for only an extra 30AUD...Is this menu for real

Why serve Maine lobster in Michelin Star Restaurant in Hong Kong?

>go to a three star michelin restaurant
>eat bread

man

what the fuck

>>6512833
Shut up you inept non contributing asshole. Just shut the fuck up.

>>6513177
mfw

>>6512772
FUCK YOU OP
I STILL HAVE HISTORY PAPER 3, ALL 3 GEOGRAPHY TESTS AND 2 GERMAN B TESTS

>>6513053
>ib is insanely easy. its nothing impressive.
hahahahahaha A leveller detected. Fucking cunts complaining about 7 easy as fuck exams while IBers have to do 15-16

>>6513300
im from canada. i did IB like 5 years ago. i didn't even study.

im not retarded though.

>>6513316
>TZ1
>hard
pick one
When you're in tz2, it's way harder because the grades from Asia are higher
You're only graded against the Americas in tz1, meaning it's lower percentage to achieve higher grades

>taking photo of your food in a restaurant
literally a faggot.

Holy shit the pretentiousness and jealousy in this thread is off the charts.

Meal looks nice, OP. Hope you had a good time.

>>6513050
I found it a breath of fresh air. It makes a change from those dishes which are served on dustbin lids and mixed with foam and shit.

>>6513056
Np.

>>6513329
I found TZ1 papers a hell of a lot easier than TZ2. Now I know why!

>>6513357
I have to admit, I felt like a damn weirdo. The staff were giving me strange looks too, like I was some food blogger or something.

>>6512842
>new zealand sauvignon blanc
Absolutely disgusting
>>6512990
>And truth be told, my parents work hard and worked their way up. There's nothing wrong in giving to your kids.
I'm not generally in favor of corporal punishment, but in your case it looks like "spare the rod" might have happened.
>>6513003
>everything ive ever enjoyed, including fancy restaurants was paid by the sweat of my own labor.
Op is being a cunt but you are delusional.

>>6513010
>he thinks 16-18 year old education is difficult

Jesus this is the problem with the UK at least, people who aren't cut out for an academic study still deciding to follow that path.

>as an 18 year old whose passion lies in philosophy

haha

As someone who recently came out of post-grad stop writing like a cunt. If you can't understand what i mean then learn to be a tiny bit self-critical. You write like someone who took a lit 101 class and force reads through reddit comments for four hours a day. Unless you are going for some bullshit leftist creative writing degree.

>>6513544
What's wrong with an NZ Sauvignon Blanc?

>>6513636
Anon, you don't know the hell that is IB, especially TZ2 IB. Seriously, it actually changes peoples lives. We laughed at people who did A Levels and BTEC's but secretly envied them. It's not even comparable.

>>6513665
You actually do come off as a pretty big tool.

But you're 18, you'll grow out of it. Hope you enjoyed your meal.

You should really have grown out of this kind of nonsense by the time you are 18 OP. I hope the food was nice

>>6513636
>leftist creative writing degree

It's a real shame to see people equating creativity with leftist thinking. It literally suggests you are scared of information. I hope we grow out of that soon

>>6513003
>he thinks working hard is a virtue

stay middle class

>>6513686
>I'm going to marry wealthy and be the perfect dutiful housewife

stay emotionally unfulfilled

>>6513686
what the fuck is wrong with their faces???

>>6513689
Average human beans. Don't bully, I doubt you're much to look at.

>>6513683
You can thank the american hard right for that
>mfw "college boy" is an insult
>mfw "intellectual" is an insult
Thanks Obama

>>6513689
they're british, they can't help it.

>this entire fucking thread

>>6513687
>quick, let me come up with something bad that privileged people can have so my poor life feels justified
>that's better, those superficial twats have bad marriages hehehe

hope you could soothe your cognitive dissonance

>>6513683
What does creative writing have to do with information? It is by definition just stories. It's more or less just art.

Also you are confusing fear with disdain.

And you don't know what literally means.

>>6513665

>Seriously, it actually changes peoples live

This is what children actually believe, get some fucking life perspective "omg you don't understand school work its actually soo hard" give me a break. You don't have any comparable metric so how can you say that. Your work doesn't impact a discipline there is no real academic considerations or processes, you have no input from people at the top of the fields. Its textbook kid shit, that's why they let fucking 16-18 year olds do it. Who do you think you are?

Why does your zone effect anything anyway its the same course? Maybe IB has changed a little bit but only mongs at my school enrolled on it, i don't recall any of them going to a top 5 institution. I believe two out of the 30 odd went to somewhere exeter-tier. All the top calibre students were doing A-Levels. Regardless your syllabus will be mostly redundant by the end of first year if you go to a decent university.


>>6513701
>>6513683
No i associate creative writing degrees with leftist-tumblrtierSJW shit, creative writing is literally the opposite of information. It is a mickey mouse tier degree with low levels of academic rigor. If you are going into a writing based degree at least pick a traditional discipline, if you want facts go into something like law or history.

>>6513778
History isn't actually memorizing shit like "Columbus discovered america in 1492", have you ever actually taken a history class? Or maybe not at a good school.

That's the thing about STEM, even at a fourth rate institution, you can probably find a job. But as a result of so many diploma mills, you people think that anything not involving the memorization of facts is easy.

>>6513778

>>6513726
You need to look up definitions of information, art, disdain and literally. I was sad to see literally go but go look it up

>>6513778
You don't know what information means for a start, but I would propose that while history is good for the rote learning of facts, creativity allows us to realize that those facts are 99% horse shit.

Do you really, REALLY associate a term as broad as 'creativity' with a political stance?

>>6513840
See >>6513801
History stops being about rote learning after high school, you instead end up splitting hairs over whether some historical event was because of some other historical event, or whether such an event was really an event as such, and truth vs falsehood becomes murky enough to give fedora-tipping STEM gentlesirs a stroke.

>>6513848
And you don't see that as being a process that requires creative thinking?

>>6513848
I don't know what high school you went to, but even in my IGCSE's we were taught to think critically and build arguments when learning about history. Rote learning doesn't go past year 6 here.

I might as well post some of the dishes my friends had too.

Friend #1 had the crab salad as an appetiser.

Friend #2 the Langoustine carpaccio. It came with these sea urchin waffles, you can see them on the far left, which you were meant to dip into the mix.

Friend #3 had the beetroot salad.

>>6513871
What's that blue stuff?

The plebs on this board don't deserve a thread such as this, OP. 10/10 would read again

>>6513886
It was sea salt. I had a bit and honestly it was the saltiest salt I've ever tasted. I put a few sprinkles in my mouth and it sucked all the moisture out of it in 3 seconds flat. Fuck knows what she was meant to eat it with lol. We just left it.

>>6513875
whats the point

I hate being poor

At least now I see why people like communism so much. I'd be mad too if I lived a shit life with no opportunity while some sheltered kid fortunate enough to be born into a rich family gets to study an impractical degree for pleasure and eat $1000 dinners.

But whatever, there will always be people above and below you; someone else always has it better and has it worse. Feelings of anger and jealously won't make anybody a better person.

Good luck out there OP and thanks for sharing

>>6513801
No i enjoy history and i took at took roughly 20% of my overall credits in it.

What
>>6513848
states isn't wrong, but you must undertake your "rote learning" to actually do this. Unless you magically achieved a complete understanding of the entirety of history by 18 then you will spend a good amount of time learning facts.

No its not the focus of the discipline now, but i have no idea how they cannot be considered central when it is literally the bedrock.

Variations in the historiography are based on roughly different views on how factual evidence is viewed. A central cause of revisionism, not even that, but overall general development in the historiography is new evidence. A command of facts is central to history, I don't understand why any historian would dispute that. I can understand though why someone who's experience with history is no more than writing essays based on various secondary literature (as is more common at the start of degree programs), might still be deluded.


>>6513840
I am talking about the LITERAL SUBJECT "CREATIVE WRITING" COURSE, because it is one of the worst infiltrated and lowest tier subjects. As a result i would ADVISE that if you like writing you should go into a more traditional discipline depending on interests you the most. Sorry but "creativity allows us to realise that those facts are 99% horse shit" is some proper retard-tier rhetoric.

>>6513935
She's a typical girl.

>>6513937
>impractical degree

History is perfectly acceptable.

>18
>passion in philosophy
>going to hong kong to celebrate finishing exams
>going fucking fine dining in hong kong

just jump off a tall building now
>pic related, its my face reading this

>>6513953
I live here my good man :^) . I'll be going to Ko Samui for my end-of-school/pre-when-everyone-breaks-up-for-University party with a 100 other people from my year and 100's of other people from all the Hong Kong international schools.

Aussies call it schoolies I think?

>>6513952
NOT MUH STEM DEGREE NOT WORTH SHIT!1!1

>>6512772
>IB Exams

God bless your soul, OP

>>6513973
I don't think I have a soul left ;_;

>>6513963
judging from this thread i wouldnt advise you go. all those disgusting lower classes and moronic peasants would really activate your autism. not to mention the food and living arrangements. plus you wont get to wear a suit and trilby their

>>6513953
OP is obviously a second-gen Chinese kid, probably from some state in Australia, whose parents like most cashed up Asians have more money than reason. They probably bought him an Audi for his first car too.

You got memed.
Hong Kong is a great place for food, but those prices top kek.

>>6513985
btw I am paying 600hkd a head for a 14 course meal in a hotel.

>>6513981
We've got a bomb ass villa. 20 boys and girls from our year all fucking about under one roof (literally) for 2.5 weeks in Thailand. Fuck me, it's gonna be awesome. Not to mention all the other kids just a stones throw away.

>>6513985
One Hong Kong dollar is worth 13 cents US.

>>6513991
>these are the people that post on 4chan now

I hate you so much OP. Fuck you and all of your friends and families for having money. Fuck you.

>>6513636
>>he thinks 16-18 year old education is difficult
>Jesus this is the problem with the UK at least, people who aren't cut out for an academic study still deciding to follow that path.
IB is harder than uni if you don't do STEM. A levels are piss easy compared

>>6512842
You can "only describe" it like that because you don't have a palate or a wine-tasting vocabulary. This oind of vapid, half-assed pretentious bullshit is why people look down on philosophy.

This is the worst fucking thread I've seen in my life and it's a prime example of why /ck/ needs a dedicated moderator.

>>6513991
>when a fully grown adult still refers to himself and his peers as boys and kids

>>6513778
>facts
>history

Keep up the shitposting, it's getting you absolutely no where.

Fuck off. I'm a senior completing my undergrad in biochem and I remember being a senior in high school. There's nothing wrong with completing your exams and walking out like you just earned some high merits, and I don't understand your contempt. Shit, he's only 18, and if you were any older than 20, then you would understand that his lack of life experience does not warrant you completely shitting on his parade.

I understand that some degrees and fields are absolute shit, but people switch their majors several times through their careers. History is a bullshit field to major in. One of my friends double-majored in European Studies and German, and he spent 2 summers working in a bookstore with me at our high school after he graduated. Might as well limit him to only STEM majors; it'd be a lot more beneficial than the fags at my uni that are majoring in "communications" or "business," with the overwhelming number of students majoring in those subjects because they're easy.

OP, congrats on your years of school, and thank you for this thread. It was nice, and more enjoyable than our weekly "is this a pizza" discussion.

>>6514097
It was a fucking shit thread, and you're a shit enabler.

I'm going to be blunt, this is literally the worst thread of 2015.

>18
>philosophy

>>6512772
Is that a Rolex?

>>6514097
> understand that some degrees and fields are absolute shit, but people switch their majors several times through their careers. History is a bullshit field to major in. One of my friends double-majored in European Studies and German, and he spent 2 summers working in a bookstore with me at our high school after he graduated. Might as well limit him to only STEM majors; it'd be a lot more beneficial than the fags at my uni that are majoring in "communications" or "business," with the overwhelming number of students majoring in those subjects because they're easy.
Jesus christ shut the fuck up about STEM. STEM isn't THE ONLY acceptable career choice! Some people choose something other than STEM because, I don't know, they fucking like it and don't want to choose a STEM major? Goddamn, could you be more stereotypical and obnoxious

>>6514108
>weekly threads about fat fucks stuffing their faces
>bi-weeky threads about skinny white jew stuffing his face
>arguments between supporters of fat fucks and white jews
>somehow better than this derailed thread

Give him a year or two to grow, philosophy might be his hobby and he might enjoy history but that doesn't necessarily mean that'll be his profession. I loved philosophy and history in high school - and I fucking dominated at both - but I'm majoring in biochemistry. There's no point fucking him sideways on a mongolian claymation image-board; he might realize one day that other degrees are more worthwhile than something revolving around historical deviations or metaphysical arguments.

>>6514129
Hey, can you do this with your fists for just a moment please.

>>6514125
Enjoy your walmart greeter job.

>>6514123
No, it's my Omega. I have a Rolex but only wear it with a dinner jacket.

>>6514143
who would take the picture?

>>6514125
It was an example. You could go into law. That's fine.

But the minute you step into other languages, history, or writing, or anything "out there," you might have some trouble getting somewhere with *just* an undergrad. Don't get me wrong, you could still get high-paying jobs with a communications degree. Manipulating your degree into a future field is a topic that gets avoided because its unpredictable. Sometimes it doesn't matter what you get, degree-wise, but how you use it. The frat fucks at my uni have jobs ready, and they did 4 years of communications, while I'm looking at 3 more years of school.

Besides, sociology, psychology, among dozens of other fields are just as volatile than some math degrees.

>>6514144
Hahahaha HE-LARIOUS! How did you come up with that!??

"Enjoy your walmart greeter job"!!!! Pfftftf, because he isn't a STEM major! HAHAHAHA!!!! Oh wow!!!!

>>6514123
You've got a keen eye. Yes it is. A submariner (no date).

>>6514129
I don't understand why people are hating on me for commencing a non-STEM degree, on /ck/ of all places. I'd hate to think how the people who go to cookery school here get treated.

The truth of the matter is, STEM isn't the be all and end all. In fact, my Dad has no degree whatsoever and he's still living comfortably.

>>6514129
If he wasn't so arrogant people wouldn't have cared so much. If he just came and said

>So /ck/, I recently ate at a 3* Michelin restaurant (Robuchon, Hong Kong) and took a few pics. I thought i'd post them here

People wouldn't have cared so much, but regardless we already know what a 3* Michelin star restaurant is like and literally anyone who has the ability to google the food from a particular restaurant can find this information.

It's a complete waste of a thread.

>>6514144
>implying I didn't get a marketing job in California lined up before graduating
>made $83k last year, 5 years in to the business. 5-8k increases every year.
>muh STEM only thing that makes money errrrrrrrrrr

>>6514156
I taste regret

get a load of this faggot

>>6514145
this could've been a good thread but op triggered people and wasn't self-aware enough to realise it

op no one gives a shit that you did tz2 or that you're a spoiled asian kid or that you think you're going to dedicate your life to philosophy. next time you want to post oc for us keep your life story short and just fucking post it

>>6514156
You seem upset

>>6514158
Cookery-school students get shit on here because "muh life experience" "you won't make it" "we're alcoholics."

We're essentially degrading a formal education because
>we didn't get one, and we don't want others to feel more superior to us
>some cucks are applebee's chefs and consider their experience in the workplace to suffice as "education"
>some cucks consider it a waste of time
>by claiming a threshold in a shit-tier niche, in this case, alcoholic and unhappy chefs that are over-worked and under-paid, we are giving ourselves our own identities, and would rather not share a bond with "outsider loser wannabe chefs" because that would destroy the exclusivity and appeal of our niche.

aka neckbeards being neckbeards

>>6514162
>implying that is true

>>6514203
>being this mad that someone else is succeeding in a communications based field, making a high amount of money without ever having to bust ass in math courses

>>6512772
Hey there m8, if youre still here, go to Temple in Beijing. That was the best rest I could find in mainland.

>>6514211
nobody on 4chan has a job, just give it up

>>6514211
I've just got a knack for knowing when people are bullshitting about jobs, 95% of the time I am correct.
I'm going to guess that you're actually in college right now and you're a little worried about what you're going to do with your degree.

>>6514219
Assume all you want. At the end of the day, you'll still be upset that you're toiling away at a really tough degree and someone who had maybe 15 hours a week of homework in a lib arts degree is making more than you will in your flooded market.

>>6514230
I've never said anything about my life, why would you assume I'm going a STEM degree? Why would you assume I'm doing any kind of degree?

Did you remember to take your autism pills today?

What is the appeal of this type of restaurant and food?

Thanks for the pictures OP. I quite liked them. don't listen to the faggots in this thread. nothing wrong with having money and using it to have fun (although philosophy IS a useless as fuck degree.)

>>6514319
Stop samefagging

>>6514045
hahaha meme lmao

>>6514097
>STEM
okay
>Biochem

lmao

no offence but you are in no position to talk about having a good degree. Pretty much bottom of the STEM barrel.


>>6514129
Prime example of someone who hasn't actually been in a workplace. Most jobs don't relate to your degree program, and many more get jobs which their degree is not optimal for, but hey people still continue to learn at the job so it doesn't matter.


>>6514158
No one with any sense is hating you.

Look the thing is people like lol-bioMcChem guy understand is that the reason why non-STEM subjects have suffered recently is because the amount of people going to university is much higher and non-STEM is so much more accessible. If you are actually good at your subject then you will do well, that's how the world works, you aren't a poorfag clearly either so that is only another + in your direction.

STEM people have a harder course and longer workload, don't fuck about in that time because lolonly8contacthoursaweek. Make yourself competitive in your free time.

I personally went from law into politics, i learnt a language over that period and am currently learning a third through it. I took employment opportunities when i could, and got some side IT qualifs/spent some time programming (if fuck i can remember it now). On paper i looked good, and i kept up with reading and academia so when i speak to people it doesn't sound like i drifted like a wasteman through my degree, i can actually come across as if i benefited from it more than the qualification itself.

Way to many idiots in this humanities/soc-sciences who take it because you can pass relatively easily, but when they have no passion and they still sound like uneducated fucks.

>>6514387

See: >>6514155

In real life, people bend their degrees to mean what they want. I respect and admire that. People step into 6 figure jobs with com/business majors. I know guys that are going to med school with communications degrees. I liked chemistry a lot, although my first semester of o-chem fucked me hard, and I started my college career with biochem and I guess I stuck with it. I already have my prerequs for pharmacy school, so to be honest, my extra year of uni could be considered pointless, as I don't truly need it, but whatever. I liked biochem so I picked biochem, the STEM label just came with it I guess.

People with good degrees can get shit jobs, and likewise, people with shit degrees can get good jobs, but both are relatively minimal in comparison to the shit job to shit degree ratio and good job to good degree ratio.

Then again, "good" degree and "good" job are both ambiguous and objective phrases, so right now, we're jerking off into each other's mouths.

>>6512782

Some of the most inspirational people in our time are philosophy majors, I wouldn't put someone down just because they want to study it in college.

Now if they start acting like a pretentious douchebag about it, then I'd be annoyed.

>>6514433
What do you think has been the crux of this whole thread?

>>6514420
Yeh well if you look at

http://www2.kent.edu/polisci/careers/upload/majors-by-salary-potential-4.pdf

http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/info-Degrees_that_Pay_you_Back-sort.html

It's pretty clear that plenty of these non-STEM degrees do well.

My personal opinion is similar, but i do believe that a degree will almost universally put you in a better situation than if you decided against it.

Especially if you can't function in a more blue collar enviroment. I personally due to my uncle could have gone into a trade after secondary school, but i knew i'd hate it. Rather suffer the debt and insecure market tbh...

At the end of the day I'm never gonna be critical of someone who is good and passionate about a humanities/soc-science, because from personal experience i know they can do well out of it.

>>6513852
Congrats on getting it exactly backwards.
>>6513939
Yes but it's a given that you're expected to learn the facts before you're able to discuss historiographical points. What I'm saying is that these STEM neckbeards think history is a collection of facts to memorize and everything is either true or false. The reality is quite different.

>>6512990

You sound like you're going to unable to support yourself at the first sign of hardship

>>6512869
$310 per bottle....well, fuck me. I think I'm not cut out for eating at upscale restaurants. For one, I'm poor. For two, I just can't justify spending that much money on so little. There's so many other things I'd rather spend $310 on than a bottle of wine.
The most expensive restaurant I've ever been to was a trendy place where you'd drop about $30-$50 on a small entree, and portions were small. But I went during their special happy hour where they had their "small plates" buy one get one...so we did those.
I love food and love trying new foods - I think of myself as a "foodie" and my whole family adores my cooking and always wants me to come visit and cook for them....so I'd rather just buy ingredients for a tiny fraction and cook some new things myself.

>>6514637
Shut up and kiss me

>>6514714
>implying poor people can be foodies

>>6514637
>http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/info-Degrees_that_Pay_you_Back-sort.html

The problem is that with some degrees (ala history or philosophy) make it damn near impossible to get a job in your field, especially if you only have a bachelor's. If you get a PhD and get a job at a uni as a professor (and lucky enough to get full time), you may indeed be paid an alright salary. But most cannot get jobs in their field. So yeah, if you spend 8yrs in school and eventually get damn lucky and get a job related to your degree...you might be paid okay....but most aren't that lucky. So those statistics for expected salaries aren't really realistic. Especially in the USA when it comes to professors at Universities...there's a lot of problems right now in that area. Many schools are just hiring shittons of part time professors so they don't have to pay them as much.

>>6513544
Hey fuck you. We try our hardest to make some of the best wine in the world. Although, our Pinot Noir is more popular.

Good pictures.

How are you liking Hong Kong thus far? I want to travel there one day.

>>6513689
That's just their faces - the left one is actually pretty hot. Sucks for you if you can't recognise beauty.

>>6514758
what are you talking about this is data from a survey of 1.2million people. They aren't just pulling numbers out of their ass.

>>6515248
The problem is not with the numbers - the problem is idiots who don't know what they're reading. Those numbers are only for people who GOT A JOB IN THEIR FIELD OF THEIR DEGREE. In other words, it does not include the shitty salaries gotten by people with philosophy degrees who ended up working minimum wage at Home Depot. Which is a good chunk of them.

>>6513020
he didn't call you a snob he called you a faggot

>>6512842
Translation: "brah we got soooooo drunk it was awesome!"

>>6512996
>this is what spoiled kids actually think lmao
Yeah, it's so much better to be a hardass and let your kid lose his house because the fucking bankers wrecked the economy for three years, so now his credit is ruined and now nobody wants to rehire him for a high end job like he had before 2009. Oh, but you sure "taught him a lesson" that only 18 months of savings wasn't enough, Mom and Dad. Fuck you both, no way in hell I'm taking you in when you're too old to get by on your own. You can go live in "my house" if you can figure out how to squat in it without the bank having you arrested.

>>6513036
> google motherfucker

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shibumi_%28novel%29

>>6514817
>Thus far

Lived here all my life bro. Lovin' it.

>>6516119
Brah...2 glasses of wine each won't get you drunk unless you're some lightweight 16 year old.

What got us drunk was the damn red we had with our mains and the vodka shots in the club after.

>you will never be rich in an Asian country

Why live?

Thanks for posting OP, I am a poor faggot but good at making money to spend on expensive people things like this. Would you say the meals were worth what you paid?

>>6512869
>Bordeaux 2005
>tasted old
You know how I know you're full of shit?

>>6512772
>philosophy
>18yo

Fullretard.jpg

>>6512772
This isn't your blog you faggot

>>6516552
Of course not, it belongs to Chipotle, McDonald's, KFC, and Taco Bell.

>>6516562
No one cares about your ranting faggot. This isn't your blog.

>>6514065
this. i wish i had stayed in bed today.

>>6515251
I don't see anything on the page mentions that


>Your parents might have worried when you chose Philosophy or International Relations as a major. But a year-long survey of 1.2 million people with only a bachelor's degree by PayScale Inc. shows that graduates in these subjects earned 103.5% and 97.8% more, respectively, about 10 years post-commencement. Majors that didn't show as much salary growth include Nursing and Information Technology.

What am i missing?

Also is your post just indicative as someone who is young? I don't know any graduate from my year who is still working a minimum wage job, I know one person who's job is pretty shit tier but they had pretty low honours and a pretty low school. I don't think anyone in a post-grad year is on a below median salary tbh. But then again getting post-grad of course makes a more high end candidate anyway so that is probably a slightly skewed perception on my behalf.

What lots of people fail to realise is that there is a constant stream of new graduates coming out who are almost automatically worst than the current graduates. People don't get a philosophy degree and stay at minimum wage "home depot" for their career, they usually move on when they find a better job and that position will be taken by another recent graduate. When I go into shops etc i don't see late 20's grads etc i see young people or old people who clearly aren't educated. Regardless projected unemployment, projected mid-career salaries and starting salaries are all higher if you are college educated. The economy is tough for new grads sure, but imagine how tough it is without any qualifications? Kids look at the short game too much anyway the idea that a solid graduate in anything won't have a somewhat adequate situation sorted by the thirties without serious self fuckery is a joke.

>>6512772
>passion lies in philosophy
you dont actually devote lots of time to this do you?

>>6516615
I'm not the OP, but I've devoted a good deal of my life and thought to philosophy, indirectly. It branches further and is more universally useful and inherently intertwined, than you might expect. Though I've never pursued formal education, this remains the case, and is a good deal of the underpinnings of what makes me tick.

It's a valid endeavor.

>>6516549
It was kinda young still but already had that 'old' taste. Give it another 5 years and it'd have been perfect.

>>6516562
I noticed that. Without trying to sound like an utter dickhead why is there so many threads dedicated to shit tier food, like Taco Bell and McDonald's and people reviewing them?

This is the only fine dining thread in the entire catalogue at the time of writing.

>>6516615
As part of the IB we did Theory of Knowledge, which was basically a philosophy course. I thoroughly enjoyed it, even if my more 'local' friends could barely get their head around it.

>>6513050
Yeah I know. Reminds me of a decent french bistro, not a 3* restaurant

>>6516670
While epistemology is quite interesting, you may want to avoid doing this:
>I thoroughly enjoyed it, even if my more 'local' friends could barely get their head around it.

Philosophy has been given enough social stigma as it is, for a number of reasons. Yes, it's frustrating when no one seems to give half a shit about, or find meaning in anything you do yourself. But in all honesty I'd say it's best to keep such things inside, even if they remain unreconciled for the rest of your existence. The alternative is an extremely level of hostility and resentment you might never see coming, and spend a lot of time trying to truly understand.

Just some passive advice. And who knows, it's possible people think about things more than you might guess, just in different terms and not in any unified framework.

>>6512772
I don't know why all these faggots are shit posting about rich vs poor faggotry, are we pol now? Anyway cheers for the food pics, I always enjoy seeing an reading about how a top level restaurant experience was. Odd question, how did they present the wines and greet you at the door?

4chan: /blogs/

This place is fucking dead.

>>6516686
I'd never say it out loud, but sometimes you can't help your thoughts. Besides, it's not really their fault that their English is found wanting.

>>6516691
In terms of the wine, they came and showed us the bottle, we said 'yep, that's the one', then they uncorked it, poured a bit in a glass and I swirled it and tasted it.

I didn't bother with the swirling and tasting for the Sauvignon Blanc because I could see it was fine, nor decanting it. I did taste and decant the Bordeaux though.

As for the greeting, once you go up the escalators you go into a dark reception area. There were two hot hostesses there with cheongsams and splits up to the hip. We said our name and they led us past the bar-seating area which serves exactly the same food as the sit down restaurant. It just looks fancier and specializes in the degustation menu.

>pic related

It's the bar seating area. Pretty damn funky and you can watch your chef prepare food.

>>6516720
The bar area was also filled with loved up couples, both chinese and white guys in suits with their asian girlfriends.

>>6512772
Congrats on finishing the school year, 2 weeks left for me.

I remember the height of the financial crisis. It hardly affected Norway in any appreciable way, when seen from the perspective of a 17 years old at least, but I could literally have a three course lunch at a Michelin restaurant in Dublin for less than the price of a shitty ham and cheese horn and a carton of ice-tea at my school's cafeteria (about 11 USD, reasonable for crappy food in Norway 'cause of oil).

>>6516686
Why can people just keep to a unified framework, my mental map of people gets so confused when their epistemic value criteria changes arbitrarily without *them* noticing. Arrrgh!

>>6516750
Why *can't

>>6513040
/lit/ philosophy is why people hate people who study philosophy

stop talking about plato/hobbes/nietzsche like they are still relevant you useless cunts

>>6513778
>if you want facts go into something like law or history.

Nigger, are you retarded? Law is just philosophy in practice and don't even get me started on history. If you think either of those disciplines are based around "facts" then I struggle to understand what you think a fact is. Unless you are equating logic with facts, which would be an amateur mistake.

>>6516745
I hear Norway is crazy expensive even now, plus you guys have really high taxes. Are your salaries through the roof?

Also, this was friend #3's dessert. She ordered a simple pineapple sorbet and it came like this. I think it was meant to resemble a pearl.

>>6516778
I'm more of an Arendt/Heidegger/Gadamer/Derrida man.

>>6516778
Nietzsche at least has literary qualities. You can read him for entertainment if you are easily amused, so in that regard he is relevant.

>>6516787
And this was her cod entree.

>>6513875
alright, i thought this was great up until this point, i share >>6513937 sentiments

WHY DOES THIS EXIST

>>6513991
alright, its official, i am too old for 4chan

cya later

>>6512772
What are the dots?

>>6512885
>wat is a garnish

>kid reads some zizek
>passion lies in philosophy
top kek, 10/10 thread, would laugh again.

>>6516789
True, but not relevant to the discipline.
>>6516787
>going continental in your approach to analytic
>2k15
>shiggy diggy

>>6516787
Minimum wage in NY state per hour (for reference) 8.75 USD, as of Dec 31 2014.

Minimum wage per hour for people under 18 years of age in Norway: 13 USD

per hour for untrained workers over 18 years of age: 19.98 USD

untrained workers with over 1 year of relevant experience: 20.83 USD

per hour for trained workers: 22.23 USD

Remember, this is minimum wage.

>>6513050

Yup, looks like something I could make. I'd be proud of myself, but still..

I've read this whole thread and OP you're an insufferable faggot

I can only hope you're not this obnoxious in person

>>6516787
>>6516806
If you were lucky enough to work as a cleaning aid on an oil rig in 2009 you would have made 55.5 USD an hour.

ITT: Poor people angry and confused because some people can afford nice things and they cant.

Please think about how much wealthier you are than most Africans/Asians and chill out a bit please.

>>6516806
>>6516787
Seattle approves $15 minimum wage. Seattle's city council unanimously approved an increase in the city's minimum wage to $15 an hour, making it the nation's highest by far.

>>6516820
im from oil land alberta and i know a lot of people who worked in the oil fields and/or on rigs around the world, i dont know anyone who worked in the job for more than 5 years and most of the people i know who did came out with really bad injuries, most of them involved losing a finger

>>6516786
>Law
>If you think either of those disciplines are based around "facts"

Law is about working with facts. They write this shit in books and make judgements on weather actions align with the words in the books. Law isn't about logic, its about blindly following the words in books.

>>6516831
Except it's much more nebulous than that. Especially in the thousands and thousands of cases with 0 precedent.

>>6516790
>>6516787
Friend #3 must have had a good time, I don't approve of the sorbet aesthetics though. Looks like they went for the "dirty plate with a piece of christmas decoration on top" look.

>>6516787
>Also, this was friend #3's dessert

Looks cluttered as fuck. Should have just been the pearl, sause and pinaple. Why they wanted to put bits of leaf, Ice and gold leaf on it is beyond me.

>>6516787
....are you supposed to eat the ball? What was it made of?

>>6516830
As pic related shows, it is a lot safer to work on norwegian oil rigs. The image shows injuries per 1000000 hours of work in the different work environments.

Source: http://www.psa.no/facts-and-statistics/category921.html

>>6516804
I wrote my TOK essay by drawing on their ideas. I hated Derrida's deconstruction though. It felt like he didn't know what he was talking about.

>>6516831
It's actually about looking at the facts of past cases and seeing how/if they fit into the case in front of you.

As a corporate lawyer though, it's usually boring shit like writing up witness statements or researching for a client.

>>6516849
It was edible and the sorbet was inside. I'm not sure what it was made out of though.

>>6516830
>>6516854
Well, if you worked the worst job for 5 years with only the statistics from the worst year then you would have a 16.1% chance of getting some kind of injury once during those 5 years. But as you can see, for most people it isn't nearly that bad, and most of the time the worst is much better than that.

>>6512875
>>6516549
>drinking an '05 Pauillac already

FUCK ME I AM MAD

>>6516865
But in epistemic terms, what you call "facts" are at best provisional posits.

>>6516876
My Dad did actually say it'd be better if I drank it in 5 years time, but me being the headstrong person that I am just said 'fuck that' and had it anyway haha.

Plenty more bottles in the sea though.

If anyone's wondering the whole meal for the 4 of us was around HK$15,000, so around US$2000, which means it was US$500 each.

I paid for the whole thing on my card and my friends handed me their share in cash and bought me champagne in the club later since I was the one that organised the whole thing.

>>6516899
I don't think anyone was wondering. I wouldn't spend that on a meal though, unless I had a very special someone.

>>6516899
no-one cares

>>6517406
This has always struck me as one of the stupidest things a human being could let spatter from their mouth.

What the fuck do you know about what anyone else thinks? Zip, that's what. Don't you go around putting your garbage words in everyone's mouth, cocksucker, you don't know shit about anything.

>>6517449
>garbage words in everyone's mouth, cocksucker, you don't know shit
Did someone hurt your feelings anon? What are you getting worked up about? Wait, I don't actually care. I don't think anyone does. If this frustrates you, you can rage as much as you want. It won't matter to anyone but you.

>>6512869
>conjured up images of leather, tobacco, old bookcases and sophistication.
>old bookcases and sophistication.
>sophistication.
Was mildly interested in this thread until this point. Now this just seems try-hard as fuck. I know you're only 18, but god damn.

>>6517449
kek op got triggered

>>6516128
>because the fucking bankers wrecked the economy for three years

Government policy caused the recession you moron.

>>6517449
Agreed.
My parents taught me from an early age that saying "I don't care" was the most useless, ignorant, and self disparaging thing one could say, and I've taught that to my kids as well. It's a useless phrase that is used by the uneducated and people with low self esteem.

>>6517449
>OP samefagging
>>6517604
>OP realizing that he let his veil of pretension slip and decided to samefag as a calmer more well-spoken anon

>>6512795
Cant believe such a classic menu can get 3 stars, zero points for originality.

Thanks for posting that OP.

>>6517647
OP has kids at 18 ?
Try again Sherlock.

>>6517683
Like I always tell my 22 kids, lying about having kids isn't that hard.

>>6517647
Sorry to disappoint you, but I'm not OP, nor have I even read this whole thread because I'm not very interested in OPs topic. I just happened to catch that exchange and I agree with that post. But if you feel so threatened by someone agreeing with him (OP, I guess?) That you need to try and dismiss my post by assuming I'm the OP, then you have larger problems, friend.

>taking pictures of your food in a fine-dining restaurant
>in any restaurant

Fuck off.

>>6513013
Yeah, I cant believe this has 3 stars. Looks like really good french/asian fusion, but judging from the boring menu and lackluster presentation this doesnt even belong in the guide. I guess its all about the name. Crazy to think that places like maaemo and noma only have 2 stars

Asian nouveaux riches are literally the worst people in the world.

>>6516694
OH NO SOMEONE POSTED SOMETHING FOOD-RELATED ON THE COOKING BOARD?

CALL
THE
FUCKING
MODS

Holy christ, is this this piece of shit thread still active?

>>6513014
>HL bio
>Math studies
>"Killed himself studying and doing his IB exams"

I hate to burst your bubble mane but those are the classic "give me the easy shit" course choices, the food looked cool but don't have your head so far up your ass about completing LE INSANE IB PROGRAM, which is a matter of scraping up enough points and knowing which classes you can and can't fuck off in. It just makes people mad, as you can probably see.

>>6512985
somebody's jelly

this thread's not going to fucking die until it hits the bump limit is it

>>6512772
>takes pics of every course.
>posts them all during the meal
I'll bet the waiters loved you.

>>6512814

oh fuck i would lose my shit i always get full off the fresh bread at restaurants

>>6512885

>weird tasting vegetables

looks like chervil and tarragon m8

>>6517578
The hilarious part is that a relatively high-end 05 Bordeaux is showing aged notes when lesser 2001-2004's don't. Either this kid is ripping words straight from a Pauillac article, or the wine was moderately corked, which usually gives off musty books/cardboard aromas. The latter should not happen because the sommelier would detect the corked note and replace the wine, but anything can happen when you act like a douche.

>>6516670
Why are there so many threads pretending this is people's blog? They're both cancerous and doesn't justify your shit dickhead.

>>6514714

you don't have to buy the 300 dollar wine at these restaurants. you can expect to spend about 300 dollars in total on a meal and have a great time, usually.

>>6517726
>>6517647
>>6517604
>>6517449
This is so lame. Obvious samefagging. Why are you doing this OP? You seemed ok when we spoke earlier.

>>6518433
Nigga, you don't realise there's a time difference with HK right? I was sleeping by 12 am last night.

The last post I made was this. >>6516899

I'm not American, I'd never use the word 'garbage' or 'Zip'.

>>6518278
I have to admit, I'm still a novice at wine tasting and I've said that many times in this thread. I've recently bought Hugh Johnson's pocket wine book to help me out though, so i'm only going to get better at it.

>>6518433
checked

maybe it's Edgar
go away edgar!

>>6519196
Just to prove it too.

>>6519250
gee do you microsoft paint professionally or is it just a hobby?

>>6519263
At this point, you're just trolling and most likely bitter.

>>6517604
Wait so, what if your girlfriend or whoever says some stupid shit like "WOW my friends told me about an awesome play that's written by a lesbian cartoonist! I just picked up a couple center 5th row seats!" How is it NOT acceptable to say that you don't care? Just picking an example where I said "I don't care" today.

Protip:

I've been samefagging this entire thread

>>6519196
>claims to never use the word 'garbage' or 'Zip' due to not being American
>still says nigga

>>6512772
Why the fuck is /ck/ ripping on some kid fresh out of secondary school who's literally just trying to share some cool board-relevant shit?

>>6519410
also
>inb4 epic "hurr don't you know where you are it's cool to be a faggot for no reason on 4chins XDDD"

>>6519410
Because I have the flu and I'm bored.

Also, was genuinely interested in the food pics and reviews until the thread slowly degenerated into OP trying to convince everyone of how rich, cultured, sophisticated, etc. he is.

>18 year old whose passion lies in philosophy
mild kek.
but nice pics tho, op. I love these kind of threads, and I'm looking forward to going to one of these expensive restaurants in the future myself.

Got about 40% through this thread before couldn't take any more blathering.

Just wanted to say thanks for the interesting post OP. Looks like the meal was a great experience. All the haters throwing shit about everything seem way off the mark; glad you seem confident enough not to let it bug you.

This is one of the most pathetic threads I've seen in a long time, and I browse /r9k/
Damn

>>6518433
What's lame is someone who can't accept that other people might share the same viewpoints that are different from your own. I hadn't looked at this thread since I made my post earlier today, but I just somehow KNEW some ignorant jackass would feel the need to make a "lame" response. You should feel bad.

>>6519321
Saying "I don't care" is rude, selfish, and self defeating. You could say instead, "I'm sorry, that doesn't appeal to my interests" or "Sorry, I don't think I'd enjoy a play written by a lesbian cartoonist". Putting it in more direct and polite terms not only keeps you from being horribly rude to the other person, but also make YOU seem like rational, thinking adult and not a juvenile who basically throws a fucking wall up like a 2 year old by saying "I don't care".

>>6519817
i don't care

>>6519821
Oooo, gee, you really showed me.

>>6519817
lel wow, so you'd rather waste the energy of saying all that shit than do something productive? And it's most definitely not self defeating, I get the point across perfectly because I'm telling the truth.

Not caring about anything but your own goals is the best thing in the world man, you really should try it and... NOT CARE about other people's opinions of you.

>>6520615
So, tell me, what's it like being a sociopath with assburgers?

>>6519811
>You should feel bad.
I don't. I just imagined that the only person who would care enough about someone saying "no-one cares" to bitch about it is the person someone said "no-one cares" to.

I also imagined that the only other person who'd look at the bitching and agree enough to bitch some more is no-one.

>>6519817
I don't care

>>6520786
Your post is one peg above nonsense. Its called having standards and acting like a mature adult with social skills, instead of being a heathen your whole life.

>>6520788
If you really dont care, why are you responding?

>>6519817
How is it rude or selfish? When I talk to someone I care about whether or not they care, I certainly wouldn't want them to listen to me out of politeness.

>"I'm sorry, that doesn't appeal to my interests"

Means basically the same as "I don't care." For the purpose of communicating your level of interest they are interchangeable. Which one you use has more to do with your linguistic environment than how polite intend to be.

>>6520796

Totally don't care dude

How do you guys know if it is samefag? How can i check for myself?

>>6513029
Isn't Trevanian like a Ludlum or Clancy? I liked the book but Hel was super pretentious.

>>6520811

I dont care

nobody does

>>6512964
what is there to stop you from taking everything

>>6520790
I imagined people would hold themselves to a different standard than what you are referring to. As for it being called acting like a mature adult with social skills...

>Don't you go around putting your garbage words in everyone's mouth, cocksucker, you don't know shit about anything.

>saying "I don't care" was the most useless, ignorant, and self disparaging thing one could say, and I've taught that to my kids as well. It's a useless phrase that is used by the uneducated and people with low self esteem.

This doesn't strike me as either mature or as someone exercising social skills. It looks like someone who found a reason to look down on others in public without consequences.

>>6518433

>>6520814
Didn't seem like a series of posts that would have been written by a believable set of strangers, but it isn't *impossible* that it isn't samefagging. We just don't take this seriously enough to acknowledge the possibility. I mean, who are here out of anything but boredom anyway?

Probably the shittiest "hey /ck/ I just ate at a star Michelin restaurant and here are my pictures" thread in a while.

OP writes like a try hard which didn't help either. There's a better way to do this, and you can learn how by lurking a little more.

>other threads deleted while this shit fest stay up for days

>>6520811
No, it's not the same. One (the polite answer) leaves the door open for more conversation, while the rude answer shuts everything down while making the other person feel uncomfortable. It's selfish because it only takes yourself into consideration. They are not interchangeable. Words are important. There's a saying that when you write, you are making yourself cognitively naked. Same goes for how you speak.

>>6520846
I didn't write the first greentext.

And as far as the second, that's not "finding a reason to look down on someone" that's having standards. I was expressing the standards I expect from myself and my family and why i expect that.

>18yr old
>philosophy
>taking pictures of your food at a FUCKING 3 STAR RESTAURANT
not even mad tho, i'ma go forget you exist now

>>6520869
Don't worry anon, it's nearly at bump limit.

>>6520844
Some dude is there asking you to choose. Sure you can choose more than 3 but you'd be paying more. Also, this thread has gone to the dogs.

I guess /ck/ prefers fat, uneducated people stuffing themselves with junk food and pizza rather than a proper thread about a dining experience many here won't have.

>>6520846
I wrote the first post you quoted, and thought it was pretty funny. Upon re-reading, I still believe it is quite funny. The humor stems from an unwavering foundation of what I think is quite true. He doesn't know shit. He shouldn't go around putting words in other people's mouths.

When you break down the statement "no one cares", it's inherently flimsy, childish, and insecure. It's a call to the group and a sense of group identity. It's meant to make the person it's directed at feel small, insignificant, like their thoughts and ideas aren't valued, like they themselves possibly don't really matter, and as though they're alone and outnumbered. It's designed to get the group to gang up on this person, and almost a primal threat of being ostracized from the tribe and its social hierarchy. It is the words of someone who puts their ideas and pressure on others to stand behind them, because they're either too diluted or weak to stand for themselves. I mean really, just look at it through your own lens and evaluate what the statement really is. You already know this.

It is not, "no one cares" it's "I don't care". Major difference, and it shouldn't be hard to get right. What the other poster said about the statement "I don't care" itself, there's also a lot to be said for, but I'd tend to mostly agree. If anyone ever says they don't care, there ought to be consciously understood reasons for their usage. It's not a statement that stands alone, and if used that way, it is a cop out. And it is pitiful.

It's so easy to just tell yourself you don't care. But it's very often bullshit.

>>6520858
Man, you are delusional.

>>6520886
What's wrong with philosophy or 18 year olds?

I'll never understand you sort. There's little better than younger people actively trying to understand themselves and the world around them, regardless of how it plays out.

>>6520852
Good one, but how could that be you, when it was really all me?

>>6520914
Because I don't know how to inspect element and alter the relevant values, and my head hurts along with a base lack of desire to open photoshop or paint.

>>6520882
"I don't care" is a phrase that communicates your level of interest in a subject, or the impact an argument has on your position. It is used by people who needs to or feels like communicating those things. Picking that phrase and claiming that those who use it are uneducated and have low self esteem elevates you above all the people who uses that phrase regardless of context. You and your approach to parenting sounds bizarre, you'd make an interesting character in a book or a movie. I don't mean that either derogatorily or as praise. It's just how you appear to me.

>>6512795
>le tomate
>le betterave
memesque

>>6520852

>>6520909
There's nothing wrong with being interested in philosophy at any age, it's just become a cliche now that every 18 year old who's taken any sort of philosophy class gives off this aura of feeling superior/more cultured compared to everyone around them. Take almost any quote in this thread where OP mentions philosophy and you'll see this.

Everyone over the age of 30 who studies philosophy that I've met tends to be pretty chill/humble though, so this is likely just a phase OP is going through, but it's annoying as hell to listen/read while they're going through it. Especially since I actually enjoyed the pictures and descriptions.

>>6520935
Umm, that's French anon. 'Le' isn't just a meme. If you went to a Michelin starred French restaurant just once, you'd realise this.

>>6520898
>diluted
deluded*
But it works either way.

>>6520945
omg, stop with the bragging already. If you went to literally ANY French restaurant, you'd see this. In this specific context, why the fuck would it matter whether or not it's Michelin starred?

>>6520945
The gender of "tomate" and "betterave" is feminine, so the article should be "la", not "le".
The rest of the menu is correct so I'm not sure what the person who wrote this intended to do by making obvious mistakes.

I love how this board goes apeshit and become incredibly butthurt when a thread about actual Food & Cookins shows up.

>>6520959
Does all the gender nonsense of French and Spanish actually have any purpose or use? It always struck me as clutter, then again, I also didn't get very far.

>>6520926
There's much better and less derogatory and selfish ways to express your lack of interest in something.

>>6520898
I don't disagree with anything you are saying. Well I didn't find your post funny, mostly I found it strange, as though you really wished this person ill but couldn't do anything about it. Impotent. And as you say "no-one cares" and variations of it are pitiful so they are usually ignored by everyone involved. Except they can be hurtful to someone who feel the need to be seen as accepted by a group, hence me guessin it was the same person defending the idea that those who use the phrase should be looked down on and excluded by the group.

>>6520969
Also, by extension, are Spanish and Italian tumblrs full of people only using gender-neutral speech (and inventing it where necessary) as speaking regularly is considered discriminatory now?

>>6520965
I think they much prefer watching fat people stuff burgers, pizzas and hotdogs in their mouths.

I don't know, I don't want to sound like a dick but maybe this experience is so alien to a lot of people here that the only way they can respond is to lash out. It's actually exasperating.

>>6520969
Not really, it's just part of the language.
Genders make sentences more precise in some cases.

>>6520981
Please don't add things onto my post as though we're the same person. This thread is on its way out, but it often leads to confusion later on.

>>6520974
I don't see how one way is better than another, "I don't care" seems honest and straightforward to me. I do not mind when people say it to me. Personally I may use "that doesn't appeal to me" but what is communicated doesn't change enough to rant about.

>>6520983
Dude, reread your posts. If you can't see why people perceive you as being pompous as fuck, then maybe you should reevaluate your social skills.

Another anon posted a similar thread six months ago about their experiences in a 3* Michelin restaurant. While there were a few people saying shit like
>taking pictures in a 3* Michelin restaurant
>ishyggydiggy
it was mostly civil. People just got put off by your attitude, stopped caring about the thread, and decided "fuck it, I'm bored, might as well derail this".

In other news, apparently the new captcha thinks brownies are a steak.

>>6521002
>In other news, apparently the new captcha thinks brownies are a steak.
I've noticed.

Looks great OP.

I've always wanted to try eating at a fancy restaurant.

I could probably afford a cheapish one.

The thing is, I grew up poor, so even though I make decent-ish money now as an engineer, I don't think I have the confidence to dine in those places.

>>6521020
Don't let that get to you. I grew up in a poor ass neighborhood and when people hear me speak, they can still sort of tell by my grammar (I write well, but I sound like a thug when speaking naturally).

I'm doing well now though as a software engineer in the Bay Area, and went to The French Laundry just to check out what a "classy" restaurant is supposed to be like. The staff doesn't care about your background and treat you with respect (and I tip well so I doubt they said anything negative after I left), and the other customers don't really give a shit. As long as you're not infringing on their enjoyment, they end up being too caught up in themselves to care about what you're doing.

Then again, the Bay Area is full of rags to riches type people, so it could just be due to that that people don't judge as harshly.

>>6520977
>mostly I found it strange, as though you really wished this person ill but couldn't do anything about it. Impotent.
That's very perceptive.

There are a lot of things that could be going on deeper in my psyche. At the time I didn't think much about it, I felt like writing highly a highly exaggerated response to a very simple post. I typed it out with a one sided grin on my face then laughed briefly when I hit post. When given further thought however, it's likely because the attitude does bother me.

I'm not much of a group sort and I never have been, nor have I ever really been directly bothered by simply not fitting in. But I have heard that statement many times, along with the more basic "I don't care". It's always disgusted me and I see it as the tip of a much deeper root of human malady in how our psyches are wired. It very likely is genetically predisposed behavior, and whether or not someone desires a place in what they perceive as the group or collective, it's still quite unkind, frustrating, a bit hurtful, and it's a threat thinly veiled as apathetic dismissal.

Part of me does wish the poster ill. Probably via damage to their body. Most people aren't really capable of meaningful exchanges, grasping abstract ideas, thinking beyond their own limited perspective, a theory of mind that has even basic functionality, or thinking about their behavior in a broader scope. So unfortunately causing them physical pain is the only proxy with a marginal chance of expanding their consciousness. I'd like to slam em' around a bit. I think they deserve it. I think if nothing else, they realize they aren't capable of defending themselves physically and hopefully distance themselves from collectivist thought long enough to take steps to prevent that from happening in the future.

I used to feel ambivalent about harboring such thoughts, and they were quickly counterbalanced. I'm still ambivalent, but things are tipped a different way.

>>6520999
You're entitled to your own opinion, just as long as you realize that saying that makes you seem callous and self absorbed to many other people.

>>6521053

You are such a vapid fucking cunt.

>>6521124
Lol.

>>6521053
I can also become aghast at other minds for many reasons, but what disgusts me is wishing others harm. It should only ever be a last resort, the lesser of two evils, even dealing social and psychological harm. I try to act on this, but as you say, we are genetically predisposed towards some hurtful behaviours and I do sometimes engage in them in unreflecting moments.

I'm Norwegian, and when I think about it I had some major punishment fantasies after 22 july 2011. I'm not proud of that, but I can relate to the feeling even though you're hopefully feeling it on a much lesser scale.

I find that more people seem capable of meaningful exchange when I start out with an almost obstinate assumption of such a capability. Of course, they don't become more intelligent, but if you insist on treating people as though they are at least as intelligent as you (without assuming that they have access to the same concepts and terminology), sometimes they "change gears" and start applying what mental resources they have in the conversation.

>>6521081
I realize that saying anything in the wrong context can be offencive. Dinner table ≠ image board. Different standards apply.

>>6520745
Fucking 10/10 broh. What's it like to have other people's perceptions of you run your life and control your happiness?

>>6521245
>It should only ever be a last resort, the lesser of two evils, even dealing social and psychological harm.

"Violence (and by extension unnecessarily imposing one's will) should only be a last resort" is something I have said, and a view I held somewhat deeply for quite a long time. I suppose what changed is an eventual stripping of inherent value from other people's emotions and experience. I'm naturally not a very competition driven person and I'll avoid conflict up until a point when it is less convenient or desirable to do so, usually thinking it's net negative for everyone involved. This stops being the case when people get in the way or unnecessarily insert themselves into my mind space.

Through this I've gradually learned most people don't deserve much. They aren't capable stomaching even the slightest most short lived discomfort, they resists basic awareness, their actions are typically petty, self centered, myopic, delusional, and on top of it, they're highly dishonest. This would be easy to ignore with a live and let live attitude if not for the knowledge that everything is connected. I'm not in a vacuum, and these shitheads will affect my everything for as I exist. With incessant, non-stop, maddening cycles upon cycles upon cycles of us making the same moronic mistakes, it gets old. With the very very real possibility of ecological collapse on the near horizon, it seems we've ravaged this planet long enough.

We are overweight. There are too many of us. Unfortunately most everyone has some sort of value and means somethin' to someone, because it doesn't change the base facts. The benefit of physical pain is you cannot reason it away. You can't lie. You can't cheat. You can't run off and do the same thing again elsewhere if you always meet the same result. I admit, I kind of get off on the base nature of it, we consistently prove we're no different than other animals, and if we aren't going to grow, we should at least be honest.