/ck/ - Food & Cooking

idk what the fuck you mean by kindling effect but if you're using that as an analogy of the stimulating effects in the brain once the addictive process is triggered... Then if you have the genetic predisposition for alcoholism then yes, drinking again will respark that flame, so to speak.

It's a hell of a slippery slope to get back onto, man. I wouldn't risk it, but that's just me.

Depends on how far gone you are and what type of alcoholic you are. But in most cases I'd say no.

>googled kindling effect

Fucking shit man, that is scary, I've detoxed like 12 times. Apparently I would have done less damage to my brain if I had just stayed drunk.

I drink so much I make myself too sick to keep drinking sometimes and just go through the withdrawals

>>6419715
Sounds like you read up on your psychology. iirc the kindling effect applies mostly if you have a genetic predisposition to alcoholism but can definitely occur if you've been binge drinking regularly for months and have multiple environmental triggers for alcohol reward/stress removal
"Drinking normally" will require a behavioral program like systematic desensitization where you have to condition yourself to only drink a few beers over a long period of time, but if your drinking is as bad as you say it can be next to impossible without help.
Look up the differences between how Alcoholics Anonymous and European Intervention Techniques treat drinking disorders.

>>6419722
The kindling effect is an observed effect of hypnotic depressants, including alcohol and benzodiazepines, where repeated withdrawl causes neurotransmitters in the brain to alter, ultimately ending in siezures, and DTs.

Anxiety for days after a binge is the first sign.

>>6419727
This.
I've never been a huge alcoholic but I drink fairly heavily on weekends.
A "social worker" that I had to go see for a few months told me I had a "dependency". Don't listen to all that garbage but if you're getting blackout wasted every night of the week it's probably time to give it up.

>>6419820
And what if this is the 2nd or third time where you stop drinking on Sunday or Monday, yet have anxiety and depression for 3-4 days afterward?

>>6419893
I have anxiety and depression regardless if I drink or not so it really doesn't matter.

>>6419758
>Apparently I would have done less damage to my brain if I had just stayed drunk.

That's exactly what I was thinking. Now need to start a taper regiment whenever I go on a bender.

>>6419897
regimen*

>>6419894
I don't, so it does?

I've not been sober in months. As in I wake up hammered and pour a shot or two. I don't know how or why I do it, I somehow keep a job though. I wish I wasn't an alcohol. Real talk anons, do not become dependent. I want to go to rehab but I can't afford it or afford a few weeks off work, and they might fire me and get a replacement. Getting drunk isn't even fun anymore its just less awful feeling than being sober.

>>6419926
You ever want to make a conscious effort to fix it? Like commit to a month long beer taper and then abstinence (for at least 9 months to reset your brain)?

>>6419951
I do want to. I don't know if I can unless I get a new job and move. I lost 60 pounds, replaced fat with muscle, quit caffeine and cigarettes. I just can't stop drinking alcohol. My work is very stressful but at the same time I have too much free time where I drink. Its incredibly hard for me to bear being sober.

Would you fuckers stop trying to scare me? I just began my third cold turkey abstinence of the year, after lasting three weeks the last time. Figured I was doing alright until I started reading this shit. It takes a shit load of effort to forget shit sober.

>>6419715
I used to drink -a lot-. A couple of years ago I had an extended stay in the hospital, followed by six months of recovery. For three months I was home bound and got out of the habit of drinking so much, I also lost all of my alcohol tolerance. Now it only takes a couple of beers and a shot to get me drunk, I used to drink at least a six pack and three or four shots every day, at the minimum. Now I drink on the weekend, or maybe on a weeknight if I have a late meeting. It's more about changing your habits, most heavy drinkers aren't really alcoholics.

>>6419988
>I used to drink -a lot-.
>I used to drink at least a six pack and three or four shots every day, at the minimum.
I drink more than that within my first 30 minutes of consciousness every day. How do you figure that is "a lot"

I have to buy a handle of booze every single day, a six pack and some shots is barely drinking.

>>6420009
congrats

>>6420009
>I drink more than that within my first 30 minutes of consciousness every day. How do you figure that is "a lot"
It is a lot, genius. You might be even more of a fucked up alcoholic, but that doesn't change the fact that people who drink less than you can still be drinking a lot.
To give you a comparison, if some guy has killed 10 people in a year, that's still a lot even if somebody else has killed a hundred.

>>6420050
>>6420052

Just ignore him. Probably, being that pathetic drunkard is the only thing that guy has going for him.

>>6420009
define handle

>>6420135
a handle is 1.75 liters
>>6420052
it really isn't much anon, unless you are an 80 lb girl. i drink a 12 pack every night and don't consider myself an alcoholic

>>6420145
The first stage is denial, retard. Try going one month without.

>>6420145
you are an alcohol.

>>6420145
>it really isn't much anon
It really is, nobody cares about how much beer you drink and how cool you think that is. If you drink six beers and several shots every day then you're drinking too much.

>>6419969
Could you try having just 1 less drink per week? Then move it to two or three less per week after a period of 2 weeks at 1 less drink. etc etc.

Why not just give it a try? Im sure you're more than capable, anon.

>>6420169
I don't think it's cool to drink, and any amount of alcohol is too much honestly.

But I've never in my life heard a person think 6 beers and a few shots is -a lot- What country are you from and why is everyone there such a pussy?

>>6420176
It's a lot if you do it every day. No its not a lot if you're partying but as everyday drinking then yes it is a lot.

>>6420176
Not him, but having 9 drinks every single day (and assuming harder on others) is a lot if you're not an alcoholic. The qualifier is every day.

We are all alcohol.

If you drink on more then 3 days of the week, you are an alcohol.
If you drink more then 4 drinks in a day, multiple days a week consistently, you are an alcohol.

If you only drink on New Years, but end up so wasted you're always arrested - you are not an alcohol but you are a fucking idiot.

It's hard to define alcoholism because the medical, social, and physical terms are all different.

Medically speaking, anyone that EVER drinks is an alcoholic - because alcohol has no nutritional or health benefits (fuck that glass of wine a day shit), so if you're thinking of your health you would never drink.

Socially - if you need booze to socialize (which we ALL do, i think), then you are an alcohol because you shouldn't "need" booze to get numbers.

And physically, it's just the actual addiction process which we all know about the withdrawals and dependency.


Good rule of thumb is - if alcohol is causing problems in your life, you have a problem with alcohol. Maybe it's not "medical alcoholism", and maybe you're "just an idiot; alcohol related".

I drink 6-12 beers a day. It causes small problems. Sometimes i can't drive at night when I need to... sometimes I can't keep apointments for work/apartment hunting because i smell like booze.

I want to cut down. And I think if I just replace that time with something else fun and that makes me feel good, it's half the battle.

So I started mountain biking. But I really want a beer after. And I have it.

Sorry to disappoint you guys, I don't have a solution. But it will work itself out. Just keep your eye on your priorities in life.

>>6420145
Last post you said you drink a handle every day, this post says a 12pack every night? Which is it? Both? 12'er compared to 1.75 is nothing so all lies.

>>6420188
So if you're exercising and have one beer after, tell me what is the problem here.

Alcoholism works very differently from person to person. Some people get dependent pretty fast and others drink heavily for years and have no problems cutting it out, save for the psychological aspect.

>>6420195
I'm not the guy that drinks a handle a day. I just know what a handle is.

and maybe I am an alcoholic, but a 12 pack of beer a night doesn't seem like much to me and I still function fine

>>6420198

one beer?

What's "one beer" ???

Sure, yeah that sounds awesome. I'm just going to have that one beer with one fry, then walk home in my one shoe to my one-wall apartment. Oh, cool! The game is on, but The Packers only brought out one player! I'm sure they'll still win.

>>6420218
Are you being intentionally retarded?

>>6420224
Well, duh. He's an alcoholic.

>>6420216
OP here, I'm having these mental problems from my brain reprogramming itself from drinking that way for only 5 years. YMMV

>>6419715
Alcohol has never sat well with me.

I've never liked it, and it's never really made me feel right.

I believe while it does negatively affect your brain, that it is the gut that takes the most damage.

Every time I have gotten relatively drunk I have had to do some serious meditation and stretching in addition consuming to lots of water and holistic food. Alcohol is POWERFUL stuff, and I think most people don't realize the seriousness of the damage it causes either because they are so familiar with that state of hurting the body (from constant usage), or because they don't know what good healthy baseline is.

Over these past couple of years I have become more and more inclined towards spirituality. I have always felt like it is alcohol that hurts me the most in a metaphysical sense. I feel like I am being downgraded from a purple belt to an orange belt or something (just relating things to martial arts). It takes a good full week after just one night of drinking for my to feel physically and psychologically stable, and also back to a state of "divine purity".

I think it's much more comforting for me personally to know that something is absolutely and completely off limits. It allows me to form an idea of what to do next because there is no confusion. Alcohol is not something I would give the time of day.

>>6420236
This is the gayest thing I've ever read, and I've read homoerotic walking dead fan fiction

It's cool that you don't drink though, the stuff really is awful for you.

>>6420235
what kind of mental problems?

>>6420224

well, appparently I was pretending, but you obviously aren't. you know what i fucking meant you bitch.

>>6420235
if you want to know about programming
go to
>>>/g/

I stopped last weekend, middle of the week aka today severe headaches and chills set in, not sure if sick or if mild withdrawals, for reference I used to drink 8 24 oz 211's a night usually each one with a shot or two of whiskey chaser, or whatever was on sale.

I haven't had a single sip in 4 days... i'm hoping this shit will pass soon.

>>6420256
Lots and lots of people have just one beer after working out or coming home from their job or some other occasion. It's a lot more common than drinking a 12-pack every day. So no, I don't know what you mean.

>>6420236

>>6420265
Headache is the last withdrawal symptom I notice. It sounds like you had a very mild detox if you are just feeling it now. It definitely is almost over,

When I stop I can't eat or sleep for several days and I'm terrified and paranoid I'm going to die of a heart attack or that one of my organs is shutting down. Freezing and sweating and itchy skin and feeling like things are crawling on me. Visual disturbances, shadows seem to crawl like insects.

By the time I get a throbbing headache after a few days I'm relieved because the worst of it is over.

>>6420296
Jesus! That makes my hallucination of a tarantula above my bed seem like a good dream.

>>6420438
i had that same hallucination haha

>>6420052
>if some guy has killed 10 people
>guy likely hasn't killed anyone
>kill comparison

It's like saying setting a ketchup bottle on a sofa is equivalent to holding a loaded gun to someone's head with the safety off.

>>6419715
I'm a boozer, this I know.

I'm going on BoozeFast 2015 tomorrow. I've given in on day one each time I've tried.

Wish me ruck.

>>6420488
you're going to fail

>>6420473
>I don't understand how metaphors work

>>6420175
thanks. i know i'll quit one day, i'm just not ready. i'm very stubborn though and when i decide i want to do something i can do anything. just isn't time yet. i have cut down a bit though. being a drunkard is pretty expensive.

Confession to make.

I like sitting down to take a long dump, while having a beer, and browsing /ck/. I'm doing it right now.

Thank you.

>>6420646
Word, I do it each morning. I don't usually shit, post, or even shitpost. I just plop down on the shitter and read ck for 15 minutes as I wake up. I guess I could read news like a regular person but that's a bit much to handle when you've been awake 2 minutes.

>>6420253
anxiety, depression, heart palpitations, feels like my heart is beating out of my chest, shit lasts days even if I have a hard-going weekend.

On the other hand, if I only have a six pack, drink water, and maybe a snack over the course of a night (i.e. don't work up too much of a buzz) then there's maybe only a tinge of anxiety but it only lasts maybe half the next day.

>>6420265
That's a lot, you should not do cold turkey. Should probably drink a beer (or two) right now as medicine, but do not go more than that.

In the future, ALWAYS taper or you will hurt yourself. It's the W/Ds that cause the damage moreso than the alcohol.

>>6420296
Please do elaborate on the hallucinations, in vivid detail.

>>6419715
To anyone who is an alcohol I don't think you can ever drink safely ever again. That one beer or glass of wine you let yourself have will probably be fine. But over months or years alcohol will creep slowly back into your life and fuck you up.

I'm the child of an alcoholic father who fucked his life up with drink and have had a few bad incidents myself with binge drinking. I went tea-total for years after nearly getting fired after getting very drunk at a work function. After maybe 4-5 years I talked myself into safe levels of drinking with rules to stop me from getting into trouble again.

It didn't work and I drank more and more, keeping it secret mostly but having a few dangerously drunk black out evenings that I couldn't seem to avoid.

That cycle of tea-total, sensible drinking followed by fuck ups seems unavoidable. I'm currently tea-total again and trying to stay that way through therapy and meditation which is so far working great.

I'm not a typical alcoholic, I've never had DT's and I never craved alcohol. To me it's a gradual build up to a bigger and more destructive binge.

But I've been in contact with a lot of alcohols (recovering and not so much) and none of them really believe it's possible to drink safely once you are one.

>>6420816
i dont think the "typical alcoholic" ever has DTs

>>6420824
yeah that's true... I meant more like I don't have an addiction to alcohol, I don't need to drink every day and I don't have withdrawal

I had to detox three times in 2014. I went cold turkey for 3 weeks. I cannot have "one" drink. I crave it. I'm a female who can drink most men under the table. When I start I don't stop and it turns into a bender nearly every time. I carry it in flasks, bottles, you name it. I work a night job where there is alcohol and I base my life around my next drink. I had the DTs SO bad when I tried to detox cold turkey last time I had seizures and I'm terrified to do that again. I know that everytime I say I'm going to stop I'm not going to. I don't think it's possible to be a responsible drinker if you are an alcoholic. I know that It's bad for my health and that my liver enzymes are fucked up. I love and hate drinking. Good luck to my fellow alcohols on here

>>6420867
how much and how long have you been drinking?

Alcohol is rough. I used to be able to drink more and steadily a few years ago in college. I was thriving off the adrenaline and energy of being young, and the anxieties that came with being an adult out in the world were balanced by the booze and beers.

Now I just feel like a big part of myself has spiraled out of my grasp. Drinking makes sense when I'm out with other people, or even by myself with other people at the bar. Go to a pub you love, and chat with other people who are in a similar situation, and it makes sense. But to keep that going, to manage the expenses of it all, the detachment from society... It's just a frustrating dilemma that keeps growing the more I keep going. I just wish I had some buddies who I could kick back with and enjoy a 12 pack with. The loneliness and social isolation from drinking makes it so difficult, but it adds to the problem, and that makes me so angry. It's like you're tricked into buying into the lifestyle, and then the social benefit is pulled away from you. I'm gonna do my best to stay clean and suffer through this, but I hope I meet a girl who will not hate me for enjoying my beers and some bros who can drink with me when I need bro time.

>>6420875
I've been drinking everyday since I was 18 I'm now 24. I drink a lot a day, not even a little and on one day of my worst bender I was downing three bottles of wine, tequila shots, and 6-7 beers. The withdrawal was so awful. Shakes, hallucinations, no sleep, and then on the third day I had a seizure. I have never had a seizure in my life. Scariest shit ever. I know my livers fucked up. The longest I have been without alcohol was 2 weeks. That's it. And that was back in December. Then Christmas rolled around and I was back on the sauce.

>>6420895
do you need a bf?
i would enable you tho ;_;

>>6420915
>>>/r9k/

>>6420895
how much do you weigh?
how do you know your liver is fucked up?

im asking because ive been drinking daily for about 10 months and im getting scarred. im not even 22 yet

I've withdrawn from benzos+alcohol too many times to count.
And the kindling effect is awful. Absolutely fucking awful. If you're an addict just stop now. Don't make it any worse.

>>6420993
can someone explain kindling

>>6420948
It takes a long time for most people to get permanent liver damage. It's estimated at daily alcohol abuse for 10 years. That doesn't mean it can't happen sooner though. I've been drinking heavily (though not daily) for the last couple of years and my doctor told me my liver's fat levels were a bit too high, but completely reversible if I stopped drinking for a few weeks.

>>6420948
>>6421012
That said, if you're scared of hurting your liver then you should stop drinking so much. If you don't stop now it'll just get more difficult and if you never stop you will end up with a fucked liver.

>>6421004
see
>>6419801

Repeated withdrawal causes worse effects each time until you're a fucking wreck. This is why you should follow HARMS recommendations by having times of abstinence between drinks (don't drink every day, don't go on benders, etc) and always taper instead of going cold turkey.

>>6420948
I think it depends on how much you drink. I got tests done last time I was in the hospital and the result is not good. My AST was 80.0 the normal range is 15-37
I have cut down substantially though. My side hurts when I drink too much. No pancreatitis yet thankfully. I know in order to quit I will have to promise to never pick it up. Last night I had 2 bottles of wine and a shot. Today I had a couple beers and that's it. I'm going with a new rule and that's not to buy any alcohol so it isn't in the house and I'm not tempted.

>>6420250
>I've read homoerotic walking dead fan fiction

>>6421047
Your loss.

>>6421056
fuck you, now I'm looking for Loss in your picture

>cold turkey
It's like you guys have never read how to detox properly.

>>6420556
>i know i'll quit one day
>i'm just not ready
>just isn't time yet

You're lying to yourself. You will keep on drinking until you end up in the hospital.

Unless you start right now with slowly reducing your intake.

>>6421031
>My side hurts when I drink too much
I had this happen for the first time after i went on a bender around last christmas. What is that, exactly?

>>6421502
cirrhosis

who /morningdrinking/ here?

>>6421686
thats not true stop trying to scare people

>>6419715

>leave apartment to go to work
>start walking down stairs and get nauseous
>sit down on steps and try to make world stop spinning
>throw up whiskey and chipotle from last night all over staircase
>sit in stairwell in a cold sweat
>have to wait for gf to leave apartment for work so i can go back inside and try to recover

I dont want to keep doing this. All my days just melt together.

Does every alcoholic get runny shits every morning?

>>6419715
Yes, it's all about how much willpower you let yourself to have.

>>6421749
Not always, but I actually eat.

>>6421749
depends on how drunk I've been

>>6420009

>bragging about the extent of your alcoholism

C'mon

>>6422190
>my disease is more diseasey than your disease

I really love it when people from these threads go "hur dur, u aren't a REAL alcoholic until your liver is failing, you've been in 20 DWI's and your wife left you!"
when in reality it's that exact mentality that allowed them get to the point where they are today.

>>6422197
> and your wife left you!

>tfw don't even have a wife that could leave me

Then again I'm not an alcohol. Maybe I should give it a try to see if this helps me find somebody

alcoholism is a confusing word. I used to wonder if I was an alcoholic but at the end of the day it doesn't matter. If alcohol is making your life harder and creating issues than you have a problem.

Wasn't an everyday drinker but most weeks I drank 3/4 out of the 7 days. My real issue is that i have very little self control after 3 drinks and I end up fucking hammered. Then once I get blackout my subconscious mind can only focus on getting more booze. It sucks.

I've been off the stuff for a month and a half now and to be honest I miss it. Since quiting my anxiety and depersonalization has returned as I think I was self medicating with the stuff. Long term I know it's better for me and I'm going to stick with not drinking for a while, with maybe the hope of moderation one day. It just sucks that doing the right thing feels so bad.

keep fighting the good fight al/ck/ies

>>6422200
>I'm not an alcohol
Sure you aren't. Nice dubs.

>>6421686
liver has a decent amount of regenerative capacity assuming you don't drink it into oblivion.

>>6422208
>keep fighting the good fight al/ck/ies
i can drink to that!

>>6422217
*raises ginger ale*

>>6422221
I hope that's alcoholic ginger ale.

>>6422221

*unkorks room-temperated saké*

>>6422229
haha it used to be. /sober/ now

>>6419715
I get drunk maybe once a month. It's always intense and enjoyable. Good job frying your brain.

>>6421742
That's what you get for eating Chipotle, asshole.

>>6420493
>implying I will
Day one and doin' fine

I'd like to have a beer but I've got stuff to do

>>6422627
day one?
more like hour 12

amirite?

>Read into kindling
>Thought withdraw was horrifying
>4-5 double shots and 2 beers every day

That's like, what 12 units ?
Probably past the point of no return when it comes to neuro-transmitters

>>6422786

If you read the thread you'll learn you're a Nancy boy who hardly drinks at all and you're supposed to drink that much within an hour of the waking up. Pussy.

>>6422210
what does it take to be an alcohol iyo?

I need your helps /alc/.

It's the weekend and I have bad allergies or something right now, but i'm going to the doctor tomorrow afternoon to get it sorted.

I want liquor tonight, but not too much (I'll also be smoking)

ADITIONALLY, I'm hanging out with a girl tomorrow and need something to drink, so hopefully something she'll drink too. (so i can try to bone her)

What should I get?

Oh, and i want it to be less than $20 after taxes but it doesn't have to.

>>6422786
>>4-5 double shots and 2 beers every day
fuck off

>>6422835
Burnett's gin and a big bottle of Arbor Mist (aka alcoholic kool-aid)

>>6422884
How much does this usually cost?

I was thinking about just getting a fifth of Finlandia vodka since it's cheap enough but gross enough that I won't drink it all tonight

>>6422890
About 8-12 bucks each where I'm at depending on size and store. Gives you extra money for limes and tonic.

>>6422835
give her a huge glass of old crow bourbon, next thing you know she'll be barfing on your half limp dick. true story. it was a little worse than beating off to porn, bbut better than beating off without porn. she cleaned up the mess otherwise it would have been worse to beating off without porn.

I went through my first actual withdrawl this week. I'm 22 and in college, and normally only drink on fridays and saturdays, but over spring break I had about a week and a half straight of getting drunk every day. After stopping on monday I had a quiz in class, and I was so shaky I literally couldn't even write my name on the test, it scared the shit out of me. I cant imagine what it's like for you guys that have been doing it for months or years straight

>Drinking the liquid jew


good goys!!!

>>6422950
this is one of the most miserable posts I've ever read

>>6422654
Oh fuuuuck you're right

But I'm stiiiiiill goooooood

>>6422973
>posting on the cyber jew
good job /pol/

Well I had a beer tonight, then another... then miraculously, I held off, got some water, got some food, and then didn't feel like going on and on like I usually do.

Makes me think in the first place, what the hell is the point of having two beers when you don't even get drunk? I mean, the half hour with the alcohol in my system felt pleasant, but why? Too bad I don't like weed, because sobriety is boring.

>>6423415
I know this feel.
When I've had a beer or two all I want is more alcohol. I can't have a glass of wine with dinner for instance.
I'd rather drink a lot one night, than drinking a little several nights.

>>6420009
not him, but more than 4 standard drinks in a session is binge drinking, something everyone should avoid

>>6424483
>more than 4 standard drinks in a session is binge drinking

>>6424483
topkyke

>>6424737
He's right tho

>>6424961
who cares drinking is fun

Pathetic.. Reading through this thread is repulsive. Reminds me of this faggot junkie loser I used to know before he went off the deep end taking everyone he could with him.

Some of you don't need help, you need to be put down to put you out of y(our) misery.

>>6424986
come at me

>>6425003
I think the point is that you're doing it yourself.

Honestly I don't care how bad of you are as long as you don't hurt or affect me or someone else, but your kind always does and then plays dumb because your brains and minds are a mess from your addiction to poison. I had a friend for years who steadily got worse and worse and now he might as well be a wild animal. He hurts anyone close to him. Steals, cheats, and basically acts like a wild animal, and then he just plays dumb about the harm he causes.

It's absolutely disgusting.

>>6425012
I'm drinking myself to death but I don't have any friends or family. I wouldn't subject another person to my life. The only people I speak to are the couple that own my local liquor store, and I feel kinda bad that they are watching me slowly die.

If you are serious about putting me out of my misery we could work something out to make sure you don't get in trouble, and I could pay you a few thousand dollars.

>>6425012
I'm an addict, not a nigger.

>>6424986
>>6425012
>harassing people on an anonymous website
Yes, pathetic.
You read through this thread on your own volition, don't drag along your bitter shit because you have nothing better to do.
Maybe you should fuck off back to your joey thread, or /soc/ or wherever the fuck you come from.

>>6425032
See, you're one of the people who need help.
>>6425046
and maybe you too.

The path you are walking is a dark one.

>>6425060
I'm here to talk about food. As much as the subject ss tolerated here, this board isn't about alcoholism, it's about food.

>>6425068
Out of the 100 threads on /ck/ you decided to make yourself comfortable in the one thread you find repulsive. Seems like someone has issues. How about you stop baiting for attention now honey, I'm not going to humor you any longer.

>>6425083
Do you realize that this shit is on the front page all the time? sometimes there are 3 or 4 alcohol threads at the same time. Come on dude, it's hard to get away from this shit here and frankly it just enables people because they sit around talking to other terribly advanced alcohol addicts and they all compete to see who has the most fucked up life/addiction.

I drink every night, but not a lot compared to what I read about. I only drink craft beer and wine, and it's usually the equivalent of three to five drinks a night. Very rare that I have more than five and not uncommon to have only two if I'm tired from work. On my one day off from work I usually just drink all day, chain smoke, and play hearthstone. I love doing it for some reason.

Should I worry and cut back? There are a few people close to me that already insist I drink a lot. They always see me with a beer in hand.

>>6425086
I enjoy it. maybe you'd be happier at Disney.com

>>6425091
I'm waiting to see all the enablers tell you you're not drinking enough and need to step up your game if you still have doubts.

You should follow your heart and intuition. If you think you're drinking too much, then you probably are. When I was growing up last millenium, it was taught that drinking 3 or more alcoholic beverages in one week meant you had a problem, but now it seems like everyone, especially women, are drinking that much or more everyday, and it just doesn't seem healthy to me.

>>6425091
Only if the alcohol becomes a problem.
No addiction is truly bad if you are able to sustain it. But if you begin turning up to work drunk, or have a beer in the morning to feel 'okay' you've gotten pretty close to the edge.
The moment alchol begins negatively influencing your work or family life it is time to cut back.

>>6425116
>>6425116
It's a good that that what 'seems' to you matters shit all to everybody else.

>>6420473

No, it's more like saying setting a ketchup bottle on a sofa is equivalent to setting 10 ketchup bottles on a sofa

>>6425125
Then ask your doctor and tell him the full extent of your substance use, and you'll find that what "seems to me" is actually pretty reasonable.

>>6420438
>>6420469
same! after a hard night i was hallucinating spiders and shadowy figures at the foot of my bed + sleep paralysis

>>6425091
Yes. Try going one month without, and you will soon realize.

>>6419715
drinking normal is .5 litres of vodka a day, right?

>>6425193
I used to drink 0.5 litres of vodka a day, it's more than enough to knock you off your feet, but there are people who drink a lot more.

I don't get all the people hating and complaining about all these alcoholic threads. Personally I think they're really interesting and entertaining.
They also encourage (most) people to stay away from alcohol

Men drank 3-4x more alcohol before prohibition than they do now on average. Around a fifth a day.

I think that's a pretty good amount to drink every night without overdoing it. You can get a bit drunk but not kill yourself too fast on a fifth a night.

This thread is depressing.

It's Friday bitches! What the fuck are you drinking or will be drinking later?

Also, I'm going to the liquor store after work to get some vodka. Everyone always says absolut is shit so please tell me a better brand to try. Is grey goose any good?

>>6425290

Grey Goose is good but not worth the price, at least in the UK it's £40 a bottle
I like Chekov and Krakus

>>6425290
people have mean things to say about it because it became popular, but Tito's vodka is amazing for the price. I like it better than a lot of more expensive vodka, grey goose, belvedere etc. Highly recommend you try it

There is also another even cheaper vodka that is extremely good that I can't remember the name of, starts with an S I think

>>6425290
On my 5th beer, 5 more to come.

>>6425228
People used to drink much more than they do today. Nothing was truly standarized yet, nothing stopping someone from drinking while working if they did their job properly. Then again the societal problems of alcohol were much greater back then.

If I only get drunk 2 nights a week am I an alcohol?
Like I normally get pretty trashed but I wake up and drink a shitload of water then don't drink for a few days.
Recently it's been on Wednesdays and Saturdays that I drink.

>>6425314
Feeling the need to ask is a sign by itself.
Just don't let it affect studies or work, then there's no problem.

Also what's up with these food captcha's?
>select all sushi
>select all steak
It's fucking retarded.

>>6425327
So you would rather type out some illegible bullshit than simply click on pictures of food?

>>6419715
litre of skol vodka a day for years.
lose my girlfriend of 5 years over it
meet new girl
>are you trying to kill yourself?
i realized i was... and then i stopped drinking heavy.

she's now my wife and we have a child together.

i still drink almost every day, but it's a beer at dinner or a fifth of delicious skol over a weekend.


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>>6425290
karkov/aristocrat/bottom-mid shelf or titos

everything else is a waste of money or too shit (like skol or mccormick)

>>6425332
Jesus, yes! Fucking shit.

>be alcoholic
>drink a litre of vodka a day
>off the sauce for a year
>slowly drinking beers everynight before bed
>get wisdom tooth out
>cant drink
>no withdrawal

that was a close 1.

>>6425453
>not swishing beer over your sockets and enjoying that nice compound buzz with your opiates

>>6425455
Anon, the doctor's order's say specifically not to mix opiates with alcohol.

>>6425578
It's okay if you only do it once in a while.
The more opiates and alcohol the better.

>>6425586
>the more opiates and alcohol the better
A guy I used to be friends with said shit like this all the time, and now he is an ostracized heroin junkie still living at his dad's place in his 30's

>>6425609
I don't know where I am going myself, but I do know that a rope is everything I need to end it if things go really bad.

>>6425578

>>6425586
Every time I've mixed opiates with alcohol I lose consciousness and apparently have seizures. I have no opiate tolerance though.

>>6425654

I thought sugar free was better, why the others ?

>>6425654
canada pls

>>6425301
they didn't have the tito's so i got belvedere. i'll report back after i've had a few shots.

Going to the bar, gonna try to socialize without blacking out. It never works. Once I get drunk enough, if the bar is open I invariably go. I wish I could just drink at home and play vidya and go to bed, but that ain't the way she be.

nope, you can't unpickle a pickle

35 months sober here

cracking #5

>>6426600
>35 months sober here
jesus christ, good for you man

I made it 3 weeks and relapsed tonight. Got a handle of vodak that will be gone by this time tonight

Health problems are catching up with me and I still get bored and can't bring myself to stop. Pretty sure Im going to die every time I withdrawal, organs all fucked

>>6426613
The beer that's brewed for drinking~

Drank last night and only had maybe 9. That's not much knowing me.

>>6425290

>somebody saved a gif I made

I feel like I've accomplished something.

>>6426600
congrats bro. nearly 7 months here.

>>6425290
thank you mrs skeltal

>>6425116
>3 drinks a week

That is total bullshit

>tfw drinking alcohol and you feel it slowly kick in and the sound of everything becomes all distorted and shit and you got a nice buzz

>feelsgoodman

>>6420236
You had me at holistic anon

>>6425654
Where the fuck do you live that allows codeine to be bought without prescription?

Fuck you. Sprite and promethazine codeine is my guilty pleasure.

>>6429413
not him but canada you can get codeine otc

just had a way too real discussion about how fucked up life can get for the past 2 hours.

only 2 beers left, not sure that'll be enough to sedate me.

>terrified of flying
>have 2 flights
>ask the stewardess if 9 am is too early for booze on a flight
>3 bottles of vodka
>not even buzzed enough for the entire flight
>start to come down during the descent
>anxiety

fucking christ

>>6429437
I know where I'm moving to!

> 2 days of rough withdrawals but manageable
> night sweats
> minor anxiety
> 2 days later
> gonna make it
> depression hits in
> fuck it not gonna give in
> anger kicks in
> fuck it still not gonna give in
> go to the store to get some water jugs and energy drinks
> see they're selling blueberry beer
> next thing I know I'm on my couch 4 beers in
> a six pack ain't that bad in the end
> next thing I know I'm back at the store buying another sixer and a cider
> still not bad if I don't drink it all tonight, right?
> drinking it all tonight

fuck it, the cycle continues. It's almost like I just buy and drink booze without thinking sometimes.

>>6429591
the worst part about not drinking is the boredom and the depression. what helped me stay sober-ish we just get a hobby or something that isnt sitting at the computer or tv. i dont think humans are wired to be happy shitposting on /ck/.

Just imagine, you go out one day after work for a nice refreshing beer. You sit down at the bar and take a sip. You hear the clack of a camera shutter.

You are forever a silhouette drinking beer, used as a stock photo especially to illustrate alcoholism.

Nice.

I usually have 2-3 beers every night of Miller lite, I get a mild buzz, am I an alcohol?

Also, I have a crippling phobia of vomiting so I have never been shitfaced in my life, and only pretty drunk a few times.

>>6430381
>I have a crippling fear of vomiting
>Am I an alcohol

Not even close, I would stop drinking if you fear vomiting that much though, you will probably be driven nuts when you start puking blood.

>>6430393
I'm quite aware of how my body reacts to beer, so I know when my limit has been reached and can cut off easily.

For some reason I think I should not be drinking three beers a night, I don't wake up feel bad or anything but something is telling me to cut back to maybe 2 a night?

>>6420188
Kek
>You are an alcohol

Hello, my name is anon, and I'm an alcononymous.

>>6429413
in new zealand you can get it up to 15mg in a pill but it contains paracetamol so you have to do a cwe

still you get like 600mg in a packk and it's only 12 or NZD (bout 10usd)

I've got 3 DUI's, been in jail and on house arrest plus probation, almost died in two car crashes and wrote off two 3 more, been hospitalized twice and lost my two front teeth all due to drinking

but I don't consider myself an alcohol

honestly it's shocking reading these crazy amounts you guys drink, a fifth a night? holy shit that would kill me and my wallet. I get drunk off like 6-8 4% beers, start blacking out at around 14, two bottles of wine and I wont remember the rest of the night.

How you people can drink everyday and deal with the death anxiety that comes every morning is beyond me. I need 20mgs valium just to cope with everday life I couldn't imagine doing it while sweating and shaking everday because you've got the dread hangover where you feel guilty for no reason

also I really should't drink but fuck it I love embracing life for the slovenly mess it is, even if I do go semi psychotic in the process

>>6426639
you're goddamn right

>>6431694
>but I don't consider myself an alcohol

Then I guess you're just a straight-up retard.

the problem with most fuckin people hwo say they can drink but cant hadnle themsleves is that they aslways sahide all of their emotuional problems in the drink when reality dicstates that you become more close to yourself when you rrealize that you jave a prioblem and you ACTUALLY ALLOW YOURSELF TO FEEL??? HAs ayome even thoguht to approach it from that amdle on this threaD? But no, we just have to keep going on glorifying our problems. THis place is shit.

>>6431909
Try again in 12 hours when you can actually form a sentence.

>>6431909
it's always extremely painful when a person is faking drunk typing, there is nothing more cringe inducing

I have had a liter of whiskey in the last 2 hours and manage to type fine even though I can barely keep my eyes open

hint for next time: being drunk doesn't remove the delete key from your keyboard

>>6431933
>I have had a liter of whiskey in the last 2 hours and manage to type fine even though I can barely keep my eyes open

>I'm good at being a complete failure!

TFW so alcohol ive never had a withdrawal, and god help me when I do.

>>6432008
if you never have withdrawal you aren't much alcohol

i drink so much I get too sick to keep drinking, even a cold glass of water makes me vomit, and I get forced by my body to detox

>>6419715
I wouldn't say I drink like a normal person because I'm a closet drunk but I haven't had withrawls in about two years. I drink about 20 days a month at this point but I drink less volume than I used to. After about a year of drinking heavily every day I started to get withdrawl when I didn't drink. It would usually start 18 hours or so after my last drink. After that I stopped drinking every day, just most days. If I went hard for 5 days straight I would get withdrawls but I slowly lowered my intake mostly because of hiding my drinking from the women in my life. If I didn't feel beholden to my girlfriend and my daughter I'd be drunk all of the time.

>>6432075
>the women in my life
I've been so drunk and so alone for so long I can't even imagine having a woman in my life. I'm stupid enough to believe a female could solve all of my problems and it would be easy to quit drinking if I had one.

>>6432092
I'm well past the time frame I told my self I'd stop drinking in for the sake for my girlfriend and my daughter but it helps me keep myself in line. I'm a piece of shit and they deserve better but I've for the most part stopped myself from driving drunk, drinking while driving, and going to work drunk. I'm not going to end up in prison but I might still die an early painful death,

>>6432092
Pretty sure I've been sober a week straight, and 40 out of the last 50 days, but I may have accidentally relapsed and wrote that post last night. If someone else wrote it, please let me know.

>be digital artist
>buy a 750ml bottle of whiskey
>buy a 12 pack of 6% abv beer
>friend has an art-stream online
>requests to multistream with me and another friend
>pull 24 hours drawing session and drink EVERYTHING in that time
>feel like I'm gonna die after a 4 hour nap

the ride never ends

i'm so depressed, hopeless, and drunk that I actually went to a church service on Sunday. I'm not religious at all but am spiritual. I'm sure I sweated out more wine than Jesus made. but I liked the service. I was there for a catering order and saw how happy and full of life everybody looked. I was hungover, half drunk, and looked like hammered dog shit and probably stank like a moldy whiskey barrel. but everybody was so friendly, they invited me to service. I asked the usher if it was OK going in dressed like I was, since it was a very nice place in a very upscale area. he was like "please, please. don't let my suit fool you. EVERYBODY is welcome here. and let me tell you, Jesus didn't wear a button up suit and probably wasn't well kept on a Sunday morning. and nobody here would turn him down.

anyway rambling on again. I really thought there was a lot of positive energy and brotherhood in the community. and the message was positive. I might consider going back.

back on topic. who has had good results just going to church, or temple, or wherever you like to go? I'm an agnostic but am not totally opposed to becoming involved in some sort of religion. I think the combined fellowship might help me out of this shit, and I might even be able to help them out too.

>>6434177
You sound like a Johnny Cash song.

>>6420473
You seem really stupid.

>>6434208
lmao, I felt like a Johnny Cash song too. going to church drunk and disheveled on a Sunday morning and making friends with the nicely dressed usher and the young youth director. judging everything and everybody but not too harshly. having a few good moments and deciding most of these people are good.

I've just read about kindling, that scared the shit out of me. I always used to binge for a while then suddenly quit then start again.

I'd literally be healthier if I just continued drinking.

>>6434208
Underrated post

sun is up. time to refuel

>tfw you can feel your stomach digest the alcohol

>>6434623
i love the burning feeling in my chest

>>6434097
digital artist here too, can i join you next time?

>tfw get drunk after one glass of regular beer
Is it true that the more you drink, the more it takes to get drunk? Or is that just a myth? I get different stories all the time.

>>6434662
thats the case with me.

years ago 1.5 litres (0.3 gal) of wine would be enough but now its takes 3 litres (0.7 gal) to get me drunk. thats over the course of 3 or so years

>>6420218
there are actually people that drink without needing to get shitfaced m8
i enjoy drinking 2-3 mixed beers (which would be about one normal beer) from time to time because i like the tipsy feeling and have 0 tolerance since i dont really drink

>>6434755
>there are actually people that drink without needing to get shitfaced m8

>>6422973
>liquid jew
>alcohol predates all existent major religions
Good goy, be a redpilled teetotaler. That's how you'll uncover the conspiracy!

>>6434623
I love that feeling, thinking of buying some moonshine first thing tomorrow now.

>>6434855
no dont

>>6434662
Absolutely true. I used to get drunk off one beer. Two years later, I'm 15 bers in since 10am and i'm stil not drunk. I've given up on getting drunk today

>>6434882
why not?

>>6434897
You'll start enjoying NASCAR.

i dont deserve to be alive

>>6434915
Hopefully not, lol.

>>6434926
thats not true. i love you

>>6434662
Yeah it's true tolerance is a thing. It is for many substances. The rate of drinking that an alcoholic needs to feel buzzed would make a non-drinker vomit before even half the alcohol actually got absorbed into the bloodstream.
>>6434755
Diluting your beer? Now I've heard everything.

>>6435184
I've heard of shandy, but otherwise things like black n' tan, which doesn't dilute as much as mix.

>>6419715
>Through God, all things are possible.

>>6435254
All things are possible through He who gives us strength.

I've been sober about nine months now, and the cravings are starting to come back. Not nearly as bad as they used to be, but distracting and worrying enough to be an issue. When I was a drinker, I was pretty bad. I'd binge on box wine, stay drunk for 3-4 days in a row, drink in the mornings, and occasionally drive drunk when I'd run out of booze. While I don't want to go back to that, I SO miss the feeling of getting good and tipsy on a nice spring day like we've been having.

>>6432018
You are me

>>6420236
hoooly shit

Why do you people want to quit drinking?

Will I regret my decisions when I age past my early 20s? Will the health effects suddenly exact themselves upon me? I can only see my habits getting worse, as they always have been.

>>6436234
>Will I regret my decisions when I age past my early 20s?

Yes. Like not learning how to live life without chemical dependence. And shit health.

>>6434915
What's wrong with liking NASCAR?

>>6435969
One month sober here. I went to a therapist for tips on how to avoid these thoughts.

She recommended thinking about the bad things that happen when you drink and comparing them with the benefits of being sober. Have a conversation between you Id and ego about it

I've started daily meditation to keep my head straight

Good luck anon

>>6436552
Nothing, if you're a cat.

>>6436567
I'm OK with being a cat.

>>6434623
You mean you feel the alcohol dissolve the lining of your stomach.

>>6436700
Feels just as good so who cares

>>6436567
shit, nice lifehack

i drink one or two beers or a glass of wine or two almost every day.
>been doing this for maybe 3-5 years now.
am i on the course of becoming an alcoholic?

>>6437388

Unless you feel compelled to drink, no

You're definitely physically dependent though, you'll feel sick as fuck if you stop, for a couple days

>>6436552
I enjoy NASCAR.

I have a new job in close quarters with people. Tips for not smelling like alcohol?

>>6437523
Don't drink

>tfw friend throws a party
>tfw hyped for 3 days to get drunk as fuck
>get drunk as fuck
>it's not as fun as I expected

Every god damn time. Being drunk used to be fun as fuck, now it's gotten boring. Maybe I need to meet new people.

>>6437523
Work in a kitchen.

>>6437588
Need to vary your drugs more than ethanol.

>>6437429
>2 drinks a day
>physically dependent

>>6437668
Too true, I laughed.

>>6434177

Read the Gospel according to St. John and pray openly and honestly. God bless you.

>>6438481
i kek'd

>>6438500

>>6434208
Good observation.

>>6420473
>It's like saying setting a ketchup bottle on a sofa is equivalent to holding a loaded gun to someone's head with the safety off.
ya it is like saying that, do you not know of metaphors? how actually autistic are you?

who else /highfunctioning/ here?

>tfw drinking in the parking lot before class

>>6438710
Pound a couple beers before class, then mix a white strong white russian and put it into a fancy coffee thermos. Always worked for me.

I used to drink daily. hell... some weeks I still do. I am not entirely sure why (i am drunk right now). But it use to be a lot worse!

I'd never drink during the day, but once I got home (I don't even care to go out, after a 10 hour work day) I drink to get a gooood buzz. Nothing to bad that it would fuck up my next morning. I did this for about 4 years. I got tired of it, especially the nights I didn't stick with the formula; drank too much that the next day was shit. Soooo....

I started not drinking during the "work week" i.e. mon-thurs(since i drank at nights, friday night of course counted). Once I started this I found I just drink harder/more that I did before. Now I'm laxing up on even my weekday rule, hence tonight...

Blah, I don't even know what my point, but yeah, this.

>>6438710

Depends what your function is.

>>6438710
That's not high functioning. High functioning alcoholics don't risk expulsion, they go to class sober and drink when they get home.

>>6438885
exactly

I'm an alcoholic. I had to taper yesterday and as of 20 minutes from now I will be exactly 24 hours without alcohol from my five day binge. I get together with my client who is also an alcoholic and we get shitfaced every now and again for days together. I've had withdrawals bad enough to have the dts and hospitalized. I tapered myself off on my own this time. Fuck I hate myself most days, I have severe social anxiety. The longest I've not drank in the last 10 years was 3 weeks total. The tapering wasn't so bad - every time I felt anxious or shaky I'd drink a beer. I feel okay now and I think I'll be fine, but I wish I had a night cap right now. This isn't life. This is why I want to function without alcohol. Fuck me man.

Thanks for listening al/ck/s

Recently, I have been eating dinner and drinking about a liter of water between drinks. It helps me to not go overboard, but it also doesn't seem as fun. Also, on Saturdays, I try to see how long I can last until I get my first drink, because I know I'm going to keep drinking until I go to bed that night.

Also shooting for, bare minimum, at least two days completely sober a week. All have been working, but I still don't know what to do with my life, my depression, amotivational syndrome, and social anxiety...

>>6438926

just gonna throw this out there, there is a decent amount of information about LSD being used to help overcome alcoholism. Supposedly the founder of AA originally wanted to list LSD as being critical of overcoming his own addiction.

My dad just used a lot of pot to get over his DT's and constant withdrawal symptoms.

>>6439464
there are a lot of people that got over heroin addiction with some kind of psychedelic I don't remember the name of

I've only tripped a few times, but every time afterward I was so intensely desperate to die. When you experience what life could be like, how you've actually lived can be extremely painful

>>6439464
LSD wasn't even around when AA was founded.

>>6439472

Ibogaine claims to have a 90 something % cure rate for opiates.

Were you tripping on LSD or something else?

Have you tried just using pot to limp along until the worst parts are over?

It's habit forming, but at least it isnt physically addictive.

>>6439477
I've only ever done mushrooms. I have tried lsd at music festivals but it's always been fake unfortunately. Iowa is a shit state for psychedelics.

>>6439495

Well, at least you know whats up, and want to some degree to fix it.

Just remember, you are putting a band-aid on a gaping wound, telling yourself "It'll heal". You were never happy on the liquor, the liquor just made you dumb enough to not think.

Might as well fix it now, no better time than the present.

420 blaze it till you can physically handle it.

>be a drunk
>quit drinking
>hate being around drunk people with a passion now

I'll just leave this here.

>>6439596
this is a familiar feel.

Hey guys, I know this doesn't mean much on a chan board, but I really am praying for you all, for wherever you go in life. My father died of liver disease two years ago after drinking 20+ years. Take care of yourselves.

>>6439596
Drunk people are never a good time unless you're drunk yourself.

>>6439596
As someone who doesn't drink, I can tell you wholeheartedly and without reservation that drunks are basically toddlers in the body of an adult, and NOBODY wants to be around a drunk unless either they really like the person independently and put up with the drinking or they are an alcoholic themselves.

It's repulsive. Which I would assume is probably one of the many reasons so many people sit around drinking alone at home. The real zinger is that so many of these drunks have a delusion that they are not only "Just Fine" while drunk, but that somehow they are in any way more charismatic. It's a delusion.

Egomaniacs with low self-esteem, lol

>>6439611
cool pic bro

It's evolution. It's called natural selection. The people who destroy themselves wreck their chances for procreation, and even if they have kids, it severely retards their development on a number of vectors from actual congenital damage from the effects of the alcohol in vivo, to the cataclysmic effects of having an alcoholic parent and the downward spiral of the diseased often takes others with them.

But if it makes some of you feel better, you know, after you kill yourselves drinking, it only leaves more resources to those that are more capable, anyway. Unfortunately, the most likely scenario is that you're a deadbeat with liver failure and you won't stop drinking and the taxpayers have to foot the bill, anyway.

>>6420009
wow you must have a really big penis I am a girl want to meet up and be my boyfriend

your post makes you sound tough and a desirable mate

>>6439627
Bless you. I'm a drunkard but feel I'm on the verge of turning around. I'd quit today but am going on vacation soon with younger cousins, I know we're gonna party. My plan is to sober up after the trip, I see it as a last hurrah before I say goodbye to my beloved beverage.

>>6440137
>I see it as a last hurrah before I say goodbye to my beloved beverage.

I hope the best for you, but when ever I had "my last hurrah" it never lead to a quit.

>>6440137
I'm no alcoholic but any problem I've ever said to myself 'I'll tackle it later' ended up getting put off much, much longer than intended. You should try to make the change now rather than later, later won't be any easier and you might not feel as motivated then as you do now.

>>6440137
If you always say you'll do something "Tomorrow" You will come to realize that every day is TODAY, and tomorrow never actually gets here.

If you don't realize this, you'll finish your trip and think, man, what's one more day? I'll quit tomorrow, and you'll wake up the next day and it won't be tomororw, it'll be TODAY again, and you'll be just as thirsty. Just control yourself NOW. All the time. is the right answer.

Do it when you're ready though, because I knew this junkie loser that was an alcoholic all his life and chain smoked and ended up becoming a heroin addict and smoking crack and meth and who knows what else, and he would "quit" all the time. Literally several times a year he'd quit smoking, he'd quit drinking... for like a day, and he'd even list his online dating profiles as "Non-smoker" and "No Drugs" When the guy was smoking 3 packs a day, drinking a case a day, and shooting up God only knows how much heroin.

Some people are their own worst enemy, and are literally better off dead when you factor the net utility of their life, so don't be your own worst enemy. Tackle your problems instead of letting them tackle you.

hey cu/ck/s,

Can someone explain "happy hour" to me please? I'm only 20 but I'm turning 21 soon (although I have a fake id and buy from the liquor store frequently) but I live in a city that's obsessed with happy hours and bottomless brunches (if you guess the city congrats). I don't see the point of it. Beers are usually expensive as fuck, and hard drinks are even more expensive. Taking a couple of bucks off that price is still fucking stupid. Why do people choose to go out and drink rather than stay in and drink, since it'll always be cheaper.

>>6422930
>>6422899

I forgot I posted here:

We hung out last week and it was OK. She brought her own beer (Sam adams summer shit) and drank one then said she was tied and left without anything happening.

Afterwards I went to my friends' place and drank and got high with them.

Moral of the story is hanging with mates > girls

How much do you niggers spend on booze on a weekly basis?

>>6440449
Because they are people who are going to go out and drink anyway, and happy hour is literally just an excuse. It's the same as retail stores having overpriced items and then throwing a sale.

It's just marketing. The same shit with Ladies Night or whatever.

anyone ever use phenibut to help withdrawls? I've found that it really helps with the GABA rebound and helps a ton

>>6419715
10 year alcoholic, 2 years sober here. my advice is, once you're addicted there is no way back, just think about how long you were addicted, probably for many years, even when you still had some control your brain was already addicted. so how do you want to make your brain just forget about that? you may be making it a few weeks but then you'll start drinking again like you were before because the alcohol will lose it's effect when you don't ramp up the dosage again.
those few beers are not worth it, staying sober is way easier than going through the hassle of withdrawal all over again. stay sober man

There's something that's been happening to me recently that I'm very concerned about. I don't get drunk much, but it seems like every time I do nowadays I'll be stuck in bed for days afterwards, super depressed, heart pounding, massive anxiety. It's separate from any hangover, does anyone know what it could be?

>>6440802
sounds like typical withdrawl symptoms, I'm the same way. Even if it's only drinking for one or two nights in a row, I don't get hungover but can't sleep due to the pounding of my heart and can barely talk to people for a few days after because of huge anxiety

>>6440426
guy you are responding to, I have this planned. i could quit today and I know it would be healthier to quit today, but I KNOW when i get my vacation I'll break and want to drink it up with my cousins. I'd rather not quit, fall off, and have to quit again. and it seems like a fitting end to my drinking. i'll go have a blast and dry out after. one last good time. this is the first time I've had a vacation since I turned 21 seven years ago. I want to party my fucking ass off, stay drunk, bang a sloot, have a blast, and then......thats it. i'm done with booze.

>>6440814

That's what I've read, but i really don't get drunk much, especially not compared to how much I used to drink, I might get drunk a couple of times a month and other than that have wine or beer with meals a few times, is that really enough to get addicted?

>>6440821
there are 7 reasons a week to drink man, if you don't stop today, you'll never make it.

>>6440824
>is that really enough to get addicted
if you want to find out if you're addicted, try to not drink for 12 weeks.

>>6440836

I might just do that, alcohol here (Australia) is so expensive anyway

>>6440426
also thank you for this. I'm recently trying to really open up to advice and other peoples ideas, I've shut things out for a long time. I'm stubborn as fuck. what you say is true though, and it makes me happy to know there are good people on here.

(im very sorry if this id derailing)
honestly why does a quarter bottle of whiskey not get me drunk anymore my tits feel so good

>>6440814
Same here, my advice is never to be drunk multiple days in a row (as in the whole damn time), drink a pint of water between each drink, and the day when you're done with your bender you need to taper instead of cold turkey.

>>6419969
shit dude you sound like me a year ago :(. Not fun dude, i feel for you. Definately try beer only for a while, to keep the edge off. That's what I did. Now I am able to casually drink on weekends no more than 300ml of liquor and be fine the next day with no anxiety/brain fog etc.

>>6425335
Skol though?

Reminds me of my mom. Drank natty ice for 10 years while she was near homeless (I lived with dad). Now she's doing great (financially) but goddamit saw her on easter and all she drank was her precious natty ice despite all the high-quality beer we had at the bbq... habits i guess

>>6420218
underrated post tho

>>6441545
Fucking plebs.

I drink pretty much every day (at the very least a six pack, 12 or 15 if I'm going hard), six days out of the week, yet I never get any withdrawal symptoms. I take a couple days off here and there but there's no shakiness, no hallucinations, no more anxiety than is normal for me. I'm definitely a functioning alcoholic (not denying that), but I don't know if I'm 'addicted'.

that being said, I almost exclusively drink 5.5%beer, never drink in the mornings, and have never drank to combat a hangover. I'm pretty grateful actually, DTs sound awful. I get hangovers but I'm never bed-bound, Ive only thrown up in the morning once.

it's eleven where I am, I'm gonna go to the store in a couple hours and pick up a twenty pack of Cariboo, partly because I want to get day drunk, partly because I get a Cariboo hat that I'm stoked on

good luck fellow alcohols, I'm pulling for you, we're all in this together