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Picked up a bottle at Costco on sale for $25. It's not very complex, peppery nose, smooth, lots of wheat but the taste disappears really quickly and doesn't linger at all.

I much prefer pic related.

>>6275819
>doesn't say Kentucky straight bourbon whiskey on the bottle
>doesn't use new barrel for aging
Yeah, nah.

>>6275834
Buffalo Trace taste like butterscotch, butterscotch, and more butterscotch to me. I can't say I hate it but I don't like it at all.

I love Eagle Rare though.

Pic related is what I am drinking recently. Very "oaky", almost overwhelmingly so. Pretty good, though.

> Walk in
> See bourbon over $30 dollars
> Still broke as fuck

What's the best sub-$20 whiskey/bourbon for us broke folk?

>>6275819
I just like jack. Am i a pleb?

How do I into straight whiskey? I mix it with coke every time

>>6275921

<mixing any liquor with anything

are you some kind of pussy faggot?

>>6275922
Actually, I'm Asian and I can't drink a shit load of alcohol or else I get red faced and feel like shit. But I still enjoy drinking socially. I've had these bottles for over 6 months now, just have a little when I feel like a nightcap/with friends. On one hand it means i'll never be an alcoholic, on the other it means people on the internet call me a pussy

But seriously, what other whiskeys should i try?

>>6275930

makers mark>knob creek>jack daniels>jimfaggot

>>6275921

gentleman Jack is bretty good, the regular stuff is wayyy overpriced though.

get into straight whiskey with good whiskey. try Blanton's, Woodford, 4 roses single barrel, etc. Add a splash of water or an ice cube if you'd like, it's not a manliness contest.

>>6275897

I want to like Knob Creek, I really do, but it just tastes like sour wood to me.

I prefer regular Maker's

but this takes the cake

>>6275938

makers mark is for girls and people who don't like bourbon.

>>6275953

gtfo faggot

>>6275956

but it's true, they put so much wheat in it that it kills all the burn and leaves a lot of sweetness so what you're left with is with a bourbon that's easily accessible to urban metrosexuals and women.

>>6275919
Old Crow Reserve, Ol Grand Dad, Fighting Cock, Wild Turkey 101, Four Roses Yellow Label all come to mind. Plenty of good bourbons in that price range.

>>6275956
>stop liking what I don't like

>>6275964
>muh burn
>muh high rye content
>everything that's kinda sweet is for fags
>stop liking what I don't like

pappy van winkle

/thread

Bulleit niggeras

>>6276015

the burn is meant to balance out the sweet. Rye makes bourbon smooth too, in fact rye whiskey is much smoother than bourbon and probably better suited to the tastes of people who like Makers.

THE TRUE PATRICIANS CHOICE AND HOLDER OF THE CROWN.

>>6276046

>>6276051
srs though

>>6276044
>in b4 someone suggests Dickel isn't bourbon

Tennessee whiskey is a subset of bourbon.

>>6276051

how can you be a president of a distillery that does not or has not ever existed?

>>6276081
but it's not

>>6276142

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=old+rip+van+winkle+distillery

>>6276184
Tennessee whiskey meets all the requirements of bourbon and is regulated at the federal level as bourbon. It's bourbon.

>>6276207
They do not operate a distillery. They source all their whiskey through Sazerac from the Buffalo Trace distillery. Mr. Van Winkle is president of a storefront.

>>6276211
Muh meme burbon, basically.

>>6275859
Bourbon legally entails aging in new barrels.
"Straight" would be kind of redundant for a bourbon aged ~7-8 years like makers is

>>6276211

he's president of the company which used to operate a distillery, what's your problem?

>>6275930
How red do you get? I know a few guys who basically fall asleep after one drink; they probably have two defective alleles. Apparently it's possible for people with two to force themselves to drink, so if that's you, forget it. Myself I probably have one defective allele.

Try Eagle Rare, gives me the least headaches.

>>6276209
no it doesnt

>>6276230
>he's president of the company which used to operate a distillery

And you used to be at an age where it was still acceptable to suck on your mother's nipples, but times change.

>>6276265
>implying 150 good boy points doesn't buy me a suckle on mommy

>>6276259
[citation needed]

>>6276040
That's not true at all. Rye makes a whiskey peppery and floral smelling.

>>6275819
is there even difference among bourbon, whiskey and scotch?

>>6276286
both bourbon and scotch are distinct types of whiskey

>>6276040
The burn in meme rye (Bulleit), at least, is because it's too young.

>>6276286
No.

>>6276286

bourbon and scotch are types of whiskey.

scotch tastes like cigarettes and dirt

bourbon tastes like wood and caramel

>>6276313
>scotch tastes like cigarettes and dirt

but muh peat

>>6275819
>starts thread about the best bourbons in the world
>uses a picture of maker's mark instead

>>6276313
Sherried scotch are super fruity

>>6276313
>>6276326
It's all fun and games until those particular scotchfags show up for real and shit up the thread. Let's keep it to bourbon.

Should I get a bottle of yellow-label Four Roses or go straight for the small batch?

>>6276286

They're just labels that indicate area of origin, not the style they were produced in. Scotch is whiskey made in Scotland, bourbon is whiskey made in the United States. There are also a set of standards associated with each. You can have bourbon in a scotch style, and you can make scotch in a bourbon style.

'Traditional' scotch tastes literally like dirt (because they use dirt to flavour it, literally), but that doesn't mean they all taste like dirt.

For example, 14 yrs Glenfiddich rich oak is made with new oak barrels, just like bourbon, and has no 'smoke' (i.e. dirt) flavours.

>>6276342

Straight to single barrel.

>>6276352
I tend to avoid single barrel out of habit because I prefer the consistency and relative value of small batch instead.

>>6276342

small batch for sure. the single barrel is good but diminishing returns honestly.

>>6276342
It's kinda fun to get OBSK, OBSV, etc and compare them.

>>6275819
I have half a bottle of this sitting on my counter and I have no idea where it came from. I have yet to try it but I suppose at some point I should.

I prefer the wheaters like the van winkles and wellers

But recently in a testing with some serious drinking friends we all picked Eagle Rare 10 years, which for 30 follars it beat out 400+$ bottles

>>6277051
eagle is pretty luxurious but there's not a lot of complexity going on

>>6275819
> best bourbon
> first place in the Paralympics
wake me up when you discover actual booze

Any recommended bourbons for euro fags?

I am more of a scotch guy, since that is easily available in high quality here, but bourbon is mostly Jim Beam and Jack Daniels, and that shit is nice to dump in coke, if i want to get drunk fast and cheap, but i certainly wont drink that pure.

but what about their "premium" lines?

Gentleman Jack was already mentionend. What other international supermarket brands could I find that are worth trying?

>>6277590
Gentleman jack is the same thing as regular jd

>>6277598
Really?
But its more expensive, and has a different marketing.

>>6277620
Its not worth it

>>6276352
>You can have bourbon in a scotch style, and you can make scotch in a bourbon style.
Not really, considering that the pertinent legal requirements are mutually contradictory (bourbon has to be 51%+ corn, scotch has to be 100% malted barley. Also, scotch is usually aged in used barrels, which impart some of the flavors of bourbon/rum/sherry or whatever, while bourbon has to be aged in charred new oak)

You can make changes to the mash bill of bourbon or to the malting or aging process of scotch that can affect the flavor of the spirit, so obviously some scotches will be peaty, some floral, some medicinal, some bourbons will be peppery, some super-sweet, etc but they are always going to be fundamentally different products.

i got really drunk last nightt and now i have a hangover like hell
thanks obama!

>>6275897
I like knob creek, drinking the rye now, has a nice spice to it. Also love Jefferson Reserve, oaky vanilla goodness

>Jack Daniels
>bourbon

Fuck this thread.

>>6277590
If you're living in Europe you're already paying too much for bourbon (no tax advantage from a domestically produced spirit, so it's going to be priced similar to scotch), so might as well order something mid-end from online.

If you can find Pappy Van Winkle or BTAC (George T. Stagg, Eagle Rare 17, Thomas H. Handy, etc) and it's at a price that doesn't immediately make you want to murder someone, you can always try that if you want the highest end bourbon.

As for the actual decent deals...
>Woodford Reserve
>Four Roses Small Batch
>Russell's Reserve 10
>Blanton's
>Elijah Craig 12
>Eagle Rare 10
>Four Roses Single Barrel
>W.L. Weller 12

>>6275945
Blanton's is fucking delicious, and is what got me into whiskey.

>>6275921
Well for starters, Jack Daniels is not bourbon

>>6278046
>>6278208
>implying Tennessee whiskey isn't legally bourbon

prove to me that bourbon and whiskey are not just nerdy alcoholic meme drinks to prove how "manly" you insecure faggots are

>>6278538
that is like trying to prove to a blind person that a mountain range is a beautiful thing to look at.

You can't taste shit, nigs.

>>6278541
neither can you, u walking fedora. but keep pretending you drink it for the taste and not just to get drunk and forget about your micropenis

>>6278418
Well it's not, fucktard. Bourbon is legally bourbon only if it's produced in Kentucky.

>>6278538
>>6278555

>>6278579
Kentucky straight bourbon has the protected origin. Regular bourbon has no such protection.

I can distill corn whiskey in a New Mexico still, age it for two years in Boston, and still call it straight bourbon. I just can't call it Kentucky straight bourbon.

I've had a bunch of bourbon. I work in a bottling plant and get free stuff all the time. I don't know, they're all good. Just had some Noah's Mill that was really nice.

>>6278579
>Bourbon is legally bourbon only if it's produced in Kentucky.

kek. come back when you know what you're talking about

>>6277590
Gentleman Jack and Jack Single Barrel are good. Jim Beam Black and Devil's Cut are good too. I don't know what other brands you really have available, but Knob Creek, Buffalo Trace, Old Grand Dad, Bulleit, and Wild Turkey all make great products I imagine would be available in many markets.

>>6279852
Maker's Mark too.

Anybody a fan of booker not?

>drinking liquid charred vanilla diesel
You guys should man up and try some real whisky. Personally, I'd recommend Laphroaig or something similar. Good luck!

>>6281279
Please don't do this, anon.

Probably my favorite.

>>6277051
>not putting the cork in all the way

You absolute pig-dog.

>>6281279
>I'd recommend Laphroaig
>making fun of people drinking "charred vanilla diesel, recommending charred peat

>>6280353
My favorite. I always get a bottle for Christmas.

>>6281279
>uses charred and diesel as an insult
>recommends memescotch made with burnt swamp shit
>not even the good kind like Bunnahabhain or Ardbeg

>>6281306
>Ardbeg
>liking the taste of iodine and band aids

>Bunnaha'into the bin'
>liking the taste of nothing

>>6281330
>iodine and band aids
>every distillery that sources their malt from Port Ellen
>Choose both

It dissipates after the third night anyway.

>>6275919
evan williams black label, 17 dollars 1.75L here in vegas

single barrel for 25, gud stuff

it's kinda the illegitimate child of rye and bourbon, but High West is the shit

actually just about to head down the street to my buddy's to enjoy some while watching movies

>>6282088
High West is good, but overpriced.

>>6281279
>>6281306
>islayfags
MUH SMOKE MUH PEAT YUM YUM I LOVE TO EAT
SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT

>>6282083
>fellow vegas fag
why is total wine the only place without absolute shit whiskey selection

why

>>6282109
lee's discount liquor on flamingo
over 100 whiskeys, good price

shit ton of wines if your into that too

i buy my evan williams black label from a nearby walmart though cuz litterally a bike ride away

>>6282125
Flamingo and Ranibow or Flamingo and Pecos?

you never know what each specific lees has, why do those places have to be so damn liquid in their selection? (yuk yuk yuk)

>>6282139
pecos

i haven't been to any other one, but any liquor store I've been to has shit selection in comparison

granted, i haven't been to too many of liquor stores

Yuropoor with shit selection of American and Canadian whiskeys here.
Is Bulleit Rye good? Never had rye before. I tried Bulleit Bourbon in a drink once, and I liked it.

>>6282341
if you like it, it is good

fuck what others think
there is no wrong way to drink alcohol

>>6282341
Bulleit isn't bad. It's just terribly overrated. It's marketed as a rough, frontier-style kick-in-the-pants, but it's probably the most toned-down rye on the market. There's nothing bad about it, it just lacks any character.

Bulleit rye is the same mass produced product sold under dozens of different names

it aint, i find it better neat, doesnt carry so well in cocktails

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MGP_of_Indiana

>>6282366
>It's marketed as a rough, frontier-style kick-in-the-pants
It is? I never really noticed. Though I honestly don't pay attention to marketing so maybe you are right. As far as I could gather pretty much everybody knows that Bulleit produces pretty light easy drinking whiskey.

>>6275819
this is my favorite brand

>>6280353
had one once, its like 70 dollars here in canada tho.

couldnt drink it strait

mostly with water
made some mint juleps with it, probably my fav. better than makers mark or buffalo trace.

>>6282366
>the most toned-down rye on the market
I'd say that distinction goes to Templeton.

>>6277051
nice weller 12, nig

>>6283272
>yfw Templeton, George Dickel, High West, and Bulleit ryes are distilled in the same factory in Indiana

>>6283293
>he's just now learning about industrial distilleries

PROTIP: just because they're all distilled in the same place doesn't make them identical

>>6282341
I think it's one of the better ryes you're going to get for your money. It goes great with a cigar on a warm Saturday morning. Very enjoyable whiskey.

>>6283302
Templeton and Bulleit use the same MGP 95% rye mashbill though.

Everyone says Pappy Van Winkle. I'm not much of a bourbon snob, though. It's a workhorse spirit designed in the frontier with limited resources to get the job done and done fast.

If I'm spending $50+ on a bottle it had better be scotch or cognac.

For bourbon I like Buffalo Trace, Four Roses, Basil Hayden's, etc.

Wild Turkey is also very good.

I don't like Maker's Mark, though.

At bars I'm fine drinking the rail bourbon, but if they have like, any scotch at all, I'll probably order that instead.

my usual weapon of choice and a pretty damn good deal

>tfw get totally blasted and vomit
>hate bourbon for like a month

The defining characteristic is the grain used. Scotch uses malted barley; bourbon, corn. They were made with the predominant abundant resource available. Corn and rye dosent grow in the uk, nor was barley predominant in the south. Looks like you bought into a wild west myth anon. And how is bourbon "faster" than scotch? Who drinks a spirit less than 3 aged years anyway?

>>6283359
At least you aren't one of those assholes who go "Oh MAN I HATE X I got so wasted on it once. It makes me sick to even smell it now."

Never got that.

>>6283463
Usually said by boring people with nothing else to say

>>6283431
who are you talking to asshole

>>6283345