/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>6219962

I went to college in flyover country. They actually believe that Thai people use chopsticks.

Subtle bragging: the thread

>>6219962
idk, man. Looks like we live in the same neighborhood.

>>6219979
I just pulled that off of google. I'm actually in park slope.

>>6219974
>>6219974

>>6219990

disgusting

>>6219990
Sunset Park here. Fucking love it.

>>6219990
>Park Slope kid
You're who I made fun of growing up.

>>6219996
kek

that's a lot of my area, but my family has been here since the 50's.

>>6219962
i live in new england, unless you have $$$ the restaurants are eh but the produce is untouchable in the summer and we have the best seafood in the world, so if your family can cook (and many can) you eat very well, and if you really got money its pretty much ground zero for 'heritage breed' livestock

we also have all kinds of little burger stands and tiny diners with homemade ice cream and fried seafood mmmm i cant wait till summer now

and on top of that is new york is just an amtrak away

Oh yes massa all I eats is cownbread an hamhocks down heyah in the south. I can'ts imagine eatin nofin but cownbread an hamhocks. I's too scurred to try anythan else.

>>6220017
ffs I never said the south didn't have awesome or varied food. project much?

Go back to reddit

>>6220079
mindless shitposting: the post

>>6219962
Do you mean having a diversity in restaurants, like Chinese, Greek, Italian, etc, etc? Or markets that stock food that you can prepare at home?

I'd imagine that New York would be similar to my city of Melbourne (.au) which is multicultural and has restaurants of all kinds. We even have little pockets within the city that are considered to be like little countries. For example, we have a China Town (which I think is common in most western cites) and we have a Greek province and an Italian province, etc, which is basically a whole street dedicated to that specific country, and migrnats from those countries tend to flock to those streets which adds to the atmosphere.

I'd imagine that many European countries wouldn't be so multicultural and only have restaurants that cater to their own people.

So essentially I think, OP, that you're asking for stories from people who don't live in multicultural societies. I'm having trouble understanding the purpose of the thread.

>>6219990
so you still live with dad & dad?

>>6220149
not OP, but yea, he wants stories from flyover country, or small-town wherever that doesn't have a decent representation of nearly every cuisine under the sun readily available

>another native ny'er here. shit's glorious.

i've been to melbourne - it's... not quite the same. there's a bunch of places just not represented down in melbin and what you have is more segregated in many ways. you've got a street or two, while NYC has like, entire neighborhoods as well as sporadic others. little italy is kinda trash, but there's good italian everywhere. chinatown is awesome, but there are plenty of good chinese (americanized and authentic) throughout the city. jackson heights and murray hill have really good indian, but there's a bunch here and there. etc. etc. etc.

that said, it's been a decade+ since i've been there, so maybe it's gotten better. it's not a terrible example, but not entirely comparable

>>6219990
Overly expensive these days, imo.
I was born in park slope, but I really grew up in Jersey.

CONYO

WASHINGTON HEIGHTS

DOMINICANO PRIDE WORLDWIDE

Nah but seriously I just live here and people think I am Dominican. I am from a bay area suburb but majority of people my age have moms and grandmothers from Japan to Samoa so there was always different food.

Just go to Vallejo, SF or Berkeley and you get most of the major countries so I can't really say.

>>6219990

i grew up in park slope, moved at 22...honestly i'd never move back, i prefer the countryside and brooklyn just isn't what it used to be...it's slowly becoming manhattan and everything that made brooklyn what it was is gone...

i'd rather cook ethnic food at home than overpay in a restaurant while a bunch of hipster assholes take pictures of their food and talk as loudly as possible about a bunch of bullshit...

glad i grew up where i did, when i did, but i'm equally glad i ended up out of there...

>>6220307

+ you can get good food anywhere anyway...maybe not the same food, but you're lying to yourself if you think something like mexican food in manhattan is better than it is in cali...

italian restaurants all generally suck...best chinese food i ever had was actually in england, the best japanese food i had was in italy... to be fair pretty much all other food in england sucked and italian food is always better homemade...

you get variety in nyc yeah, but there's variety elsewhere...the problem with people in brooklyn (especially when their families go back a couple generations my great grandparents my mom's side came from fucking naples to brooklyn in the 1930's or 40's) is that they think there isn't shit outside of it... and having a lot of everything doesn't mean the best of everything...

i still have love for the place, but there's plenty outside of it...and it's pretty shit now anyway, gentrification killed a lot of it

>>6220206
I'll echo this Anon. Melbourne is lovely, and you do have people and food from around the world there. But if Melbourne were right across the river from Sydney, and you get a better picture of Brooklyn.

Brooklyn has both been an immigrant mecca for over a century, and still is, while also being home to those with a desire to live in NYC but priced out of Manhattan.

OP is bragging about Park Slope, which over the last 30 years has gone from shithole to pretty fucking bourgeois. If you want to find Thai food for the 50+ year old set and precious little markets selling manicured organic foods it's the place to go. Basically the kind of white people who moved to ritzy suburbs to raise their families a generation or two ago bought brownstone townhouses in Park Slope a decade or so ago. It's very nice, but not as posh as the best parts of Manhattan, and also without as easy access to good, cheap immigrant food as other places in Brooklyn because it's been gentrifying for a while.

My neighborhood, just 25-30 blocks south used to be the Finnish/Scandinavian stronghood, then I became Polish and Puerto Rican. Today it's home to NYC's biggest Chinatown and a lively Mexican strip. And it just a few blocks from the Orthodox Jewish ghetto that stretches through much of Brooklyn. Another 30 blocks south lands you in the old Italian and Greek neighborhood, which has recently become a Middle Eastern stronghold. Pepper a few immigrants from India throughout, just for fun.

And if that isn't quite wealthy enough for your blood a 15 min train ride (on the express trains) lands you on the Lower East Side of Manhattan, which is currently the dining hot spot in NYC.

I grew up in the Midwest. Spent 8 years in a small town in Michigan, and 6 in a pretty well-to-do suburb of Chicago. Now I live in central Pennsylvania, which much more like small-town Michigan in many ways. I guess I don't have much to say—there was always relatively decent access to a variety of ingredients to make all sorts of ethnic food at home and stuff. Michigan was probably the most "culturally barren" or whatever, with the least varied selection of restaurants and grocery stores. Michigan was mostly white people and the traditional immigrant-European food + commonplace "American" stuff. Where I lived in Illinois had the most variety, being less than half an hour from downtown Chicago and having a pretty substantial East Asian and Middle Eastern population. I do miss being able to get really fucking good Mediterranean food. Vietnamese food has been, maybe weirdly, pretty popular in all three places. There's a notable Vietnamese/Thai/Burmese population where I'm at now and that is reflected in a scattering of really good authentic restaurants and markets. But, by and large, there are a lot of diners and fast food places here. It's trucker-and-old-people territory and the attitude towards "weird/gross foreign food" is driven by that demographic. People like their meat 'n' potatoes.

I'm also coming from a different viewpoint because I was raised eating a huge variety of food and so I naturally seek it out wherever I go. So it's not as barren as some might expect (though I'm sure that, yes, there are small towns and communities that aren't so big on anything that doesn't come from Old Tom's farm down the way) and it's getting less so over time.

GOAT Long Islander here; 40 minute train ride, I'm in the city. Hour drive, I'm in wine country. Also can park car in the street without worrying it getting torn to shit.

Also, our bagels are better.

>>6220543
>gnat buzzing

Like why do all long islanders have to be like "WE BETTER THAN NEW YORK" like chill, you are the burbs.

>>6220543
>bragging about having to spend 40 minutes on the train to get anywhere of note
>bragging about parking his car on the street instead of an actual parking lot
>bragging about not having his car torn up, as if this is something that shouldn't be expected

Only a New Yorker could be so delusional.

>>6220561
>implying people from the city don't dump on Long Island all the time

>>6220570
>spend 40 minutes on train to get anywhere of note
What is Huntington, Rockville Center, Farmingdale, Babylon, and Port Jefferson, all with great bars and restaurants?

And oh,
>implying we don't have parking lots

>>6220575
For good reason we do.

You've a gnat

>>6220579
I can't hear you from my two story house, two car garage, and my backyard.

This has probably been said but I'm too lazy to read through this whole thread: not all big cities are new york but pretty much any large city (3 million + people) in a melting pot type country like the US or brazil generally have pretty much any kind of food or restaurant you can find in NY, a lot are even better than NY restaurants

philly<<<<newjersey<<<<<<<outer bouroughs<<long island<<nyc<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<CT

>>6219962
ITT: we rank the states from most flyover to least flyover

1: iowa
2: kansas
...
48:new york
49: florida
50: california
51: hawaii

>>6220570
>new yorker
>long island

Nope

>>6220628

CT is fucking depressing, I literally feel like I'm suffocating when I'm there. The white people food is worse than NJ. Like imagine if you had a chef who was as autistic as the slowfood #localvore people, but his thing was about having bland, cardboard tasting out of season supermarket food. Soggy chicken breasts topped with the blandest most mealy supermarket tomatoes slapped between slices of white bread. That's CT food. They are practically world renowned experts in destroying anything remarkable about their food.

And then there are the packs of blacks lurking in the shadows. What is it about CT black people? There seems to be some rule that blacks are required to be scary looking, desperately poor, and always lurking next to benches and behind bushes, or fist fighting each other in the middle of a busy intersection. What the hell? Where are the middle class blacks?

And forget about any races that are neither pasty white nor niggiest of the nigger black. There's probably a state law against them.

tl;dr fuck Connecticut.

>>6220647
there are only 50 states...

>>6220216
WASHINGTON HEIGHTS REPRESENT

Except i'm a white transplant who just lives here. I grew up in Jersey though, which is severely underrated (Korean, Indian, Italian in northern NJ is totally great, Korean especially).

Check out Saggio on 181st if you want some dope italian food at a pretty decent price.

>>6221072

What's with all the wa hts fags in this thread?

I've been to saggio. Not bad, not bad at all. If you ever see a creepy dude browsing /ck/ on the phone at the bar while drinking a glass of wine, that's me.

>>6220575
>implying people from the city don't dump on Long Island all the time

Of course we do. LI is full of bridge and tunnel trash. St. Paddy's day, Santacon etc. are all fucking B&T shitheads who just come here, puke and go home. I live uptown and whenever the A passes through Penn station it always gets full of the worst fucking bros.

Long islanders are worse than jersey. I dated a girl from LI and have been to all the places you mention and while they've got good places here or there they're no better than any other rich suburb.

>>6221032
everything you just said both amazes and confuses me
it sounds like you took a wrong turn ended up in bridgeport and ate a really shitty chicken cutlet once

although you might be on to something with the middle class black people

>>6221072
>>6221078
My saggybros. I've been there too. Le Cheile is shit though

>>6221083
>>6221078

God that place is fucking horrendous.

The sushi spot next to saggio is is pretty good if you wanna stayl ocal. 181st and Cabrini isn't bad either.

I actually live down by Heights Tavern (decent brunch, fun to watch football in, overpriced otherwise) and Wahi Diner (formerly George's, my spot till I die but only because it's on my block).

>>6220570
>implying that's a new yorker and not some wannabe guido from the burbs
>>6220575
child please. you need 5 separate towns just to equal parts of one borough.
>>6220628
there's almost nothing worth eating in CT aside from some pizza joints and miya's in new haven

>>6219962
I live in a city with one of the highest restaurant per capita on the planet despite only having a population of 300,000.


Never felt I missed out on anything apart from White Castle.

>>6219962
op you got any recommendations for cheap food in the ditmas park area?

>>6221110
Oh, we can add Montauk, Fire Island, Patchogue, Garden City, and Hempstead if you'd like. There are plenty more. Also you're including the other boroughs? Two which are attached to Long Island?

>>6221032
>What is it about CT black people? There seems to be some rule that blacks are required to be scary looking, desperately poor, and always lurking next to benches and behind bushes, or fist fighting each other in the middle of a busy intersection. What the hell? Where are the middle class blacks?
CT boasts a number of the wealthiest zip codes in the US. Wander around places like New Canaan or Old Greenwich and the concentration of wealth is amazing. Amazing giant sandwiches aside New Haven may seem like a dump, but it's a very wealthy dump. Even when you go out into the boonies in CT you don't find rednecks, you find estates with stables and horses.

Where are the poor people? Clustered in absolute shitholes like Bridgeport. As long as places like that are the only places the poor can afford they'll stay segregated in places where the rich folks never go. So the rich will never have to look at them (except when they're cutting lawns or cleaning the house).

Where is the black middle class? Fort Greene and Crown Heights, Brooklyn, of course.

>>6221367
ct has plenty of rednecks and also some of the oldest kkk chapters still operating in the us
but they arent your typical rednecks, theyve been living on the family farm for 400 years and their greatgranddaddies probably rubbed shoulders with franklin and the adams family
plenty of lifted trucks and dipspit out here

>>6221387
>they arent your typical rednecks, theyve been living on the family farm for 400 years and their greatgranddaddies probably rubbed shoulders with franklin and the adams family
CT is so wealthy that even their rednecks are pedigreed.

>>6221353
as much as you'd desperately like to be part of NYC, you're not. you're guidobro trash from the burbs that the civilized world would like to sink out at sea. kind of like florida, but where the shitheads are 20 and not 80.

have a nice life, wannabe

>>6221402
>>6221387
>>6221367
>>6221032
born and raised in CT for 19 years before moving the fuck out, gone 3 years, back now for just under 2 months. Can confirm all of this, possible starting a new cooking job in beacon falls, slowly plotting my escape again.

>>6221493
qui transtulit sustinet

>>6221446
nyc is the most delusional place in the world

>>6221446
>you're guidobro trash from the burbs
That's too harsh. Long Island does have its own sensibility. I lived there for a few years and couldn't stand it, but there is some good shit there. Particularly if you dig Italian American food, delis and bagels. The problem is that a really good chunk of it is bedroom communities. Quiet places people who work somewhere else come home to at then end of the day. Kind of hard to have much culture in a bedroom community.

Music shows this in clear relief. Think of rock and roll. NYC gave us gritty shit like the Velvet Underground, the Ramones and the New York Dolls. Not to everyone's tastes, but iconic and influential stuff. Long Island gave us Billy Joel. Very popular and a huge talent, but MOR as hell, and barely even rock and roll.

That illustrates the difference between LI and the city. It's less sharp now than it used to be, as more of the formerly interesting neighborhoods become theme parks for rich kids. But it still holds true.

>>6220175
bump

>>6220353
Melbournian here and yes we have it good but I'm not delusional. NYC shit's all over us in most aspects and I miss it over there but there is still no doubt in my mind that our quality of ingredients/produce is of a much higher standard than what you have. It's probably because we live in a much cleaner environment with 100x + less the population. Honestly I couldn't even drink the tap water without gagging in disgust.

NOOO YAAWKK

>>6221783
TOPKEK PARK SLOPE BTFO

TRYHARD DOUCHEBAG CENTRAL

AT LEAST MANHATTAN IS STRAIGHT UP WITH ITS ASSHOLEDOM

>>6221832
>Honestly I couldn't even drink the tap water without gagging in disgust.
That's because it loaded with chlorine.

I've been to Australia twice, and hit Melbourne both times. Yes, the quality of the ingredients you get is high - higher than what one would find in an average American supermarket. They're much better quality than what poor immigrants are magically transforming into delicious foods in parts of Brooklyn and Queens.

But this is why the wealthy in NYC (and across the country) have been getting more scrupulous about how their food is sourced. Organic is nice for the middle class, but the rich want to know not just where their food is grown, but if possible the name of the farmer who grew it. And they will pay for the privilege in high end restaurants, farmer's markets and boutique retailers like Heritage Meats, Murray's Cheese and hundreds of other specialty shops around town.

Those who can afford to in NYC are eating food made from ingredients just as good or better than what you get in Melbourne. (And they're drinking better wine).

American scrubs. The most diverse international city in the world is London. Over 300 languages spoken, more than 50 immigrant communities with a population of over 10000, more international phone calls are made to or from London than any other city, it's the world's largest aviation hub, it has more international banks than any other city, nearly a third of all currency transactions are made in London, with more dollars traded than New York, and more Euros than all the cities in Europe put together. Plus, it's still 60% white (unlike NY). Old London town has the broadest range of international cuisine in the world.

>>6221949
>LONDON TALKING FINANCE
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2014-11-24/new-york-boosts-lead-on-london-as-leading-finance-center
GG

>BRITISH CUISINE
TIPPETTY TOPPEST KEK

>>6219962
>I'm sure some of you live in places where you mostly only have your own local ethnic food

You are connected to your people, your history, and your heritage. I would never trade it for having to live amongst the strangers of a foreign multi-cultural land.

Knowing that you are in the same lands eating the same meals as the folk heroes and your ancestors is a connection that very few in this world today get to enjoy.

Here we pull fish out of the same water and game out of the same woods as every king and peasant has for thousands of years. We have lived with the land as a kind of family for that long, walking in their same footsteps.

Even now though, foreigners come and they respect nothing, they understand nothing, and they openly despise our culture and history. And the marxists in parliment use our money so they can live door to door with us for free, so we can live with their disdain beaming onto us from mere feet away. Naturally they bring the food they are used to: an imported mishmash from every culture that has enslaved or occupied them, chiefly among them their current masters' food: the Big Mac and the Coke a Cola and the Fish n Chips. And tons of smelly curry, which smells like a stink-bomb when cooking.

>>6221949

I had a pretty sick meal at duck and waffle when i was there.

The problem I had with london was that I couldn't find weed when I was there.

>>6221949
>Over 300 languages spoken, more than 50 immigrant communities with a population of over 10000, more international phone calls are made to or from London than any other city
Note to self: NEVER VISIT LONDON

>>6221980

You would enjoy the book Heritage by Sean Brock. I'm reading it now and he feels that way about the south and you can really tell his love for the cusine of his home.

This is coming from a pretentious new yorker who hates rednecks too.

>>6221949
yeah and it makes it a fucking nightmare to live in

>>6221985
>LONDON
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGbWJoZAsCs

>ANYTHING TO DECLARE?
YEAH, DONT GO TA ENGLAND
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5qPHsvGMQI

LONDON IS PRETTY SHITE M8, BUT YOU SHOULD GO SEE IT IN ALL ITS DREAR

GET ON THOSE STUPID DOUBLE BUSES, DO A LAP IN THE EYE, GO SEE THE BOOK OF MORMON IN THE WEST END BUAHAH

>>6221949
Like NYC you can eat very well there if you have money to blow. No surprise, since world class restaurants tend to cluster where wealthy people are.

But London falls apart if you want delicious stuff really cheap. In my experience you're left with the chip shop, the kebab joint, Gregg's and triangle sandwiches from Pret a Manger.

New York still has plenty of delicious stuff at the $5 or less price point. Even in Manhattan you can get the Papaya King Recession Special, a felafel at Mamoun's, a Vietnamese sandwich, Chinese fried noodles/dumplings, pork buns from a Chinese bakery, curry from a cabbie stand, tacos, slice joint pizza and more.

London can't compare to that. Very little there that's tasty is super cheap.

>>6221837
yeah, the slope is horrible. these hipster idiots want a "true, authentic" NY experience but want nothing that comes with that (crime, niggers, theft, etc.). there's no such thing as authenticity in a vacuum....

>>6222095

The slope and the surrounding areas are filled with girls right out of college that want to live in the city but want somewhere nice and safe and cheap.

Park slope bars are the easiest to get laid in.

>>6222094

I think property prices, labour costs, and the price of raw ingredients are all higher in London. That said, NY isn't as cheap as all that in my experience, and for a sit down meal in a half-decent restaurant it's alarmingly expensive compared to what you can get in London.

>>6222164

"NYC Cheap eats" is overstated. People don't actually eat at Papaya King, Vanessa's dumping, Mamouns, Halal Carts and dollar slice shops on the regular. That is, unless you want to be an unhealthy piece of shit.

>>6222207
>People don't actually eat at Papaya King, Vanessa's dumping, Mamouns, Halal Carts and dollar slice shops on the regular.
I eat at all of those places. No often, but once a month or so, and enjoy the shit out of them. I wouldn't call NYC cheap eats overrated, dollar for dollar they tend to be much tastier than fast food, which is pretty much their competition. Felafel sandwiches and cabbie curries are probably a little healthier than fast food, Vanessa's dumplings and Papaya King as bad or worse. But it all tastes better than similarly priced shit at McD's or 7-11. And the very fact that you can get a tasty meal that's not from a fast food chain for under $5 in one of the most expensive cities in the country is amazing.

>>6222164
>for a sit down meal in a half-decent restaurant it's alarmingly expensive compared to what you can get in London.
That depends on the neighborhood, which is kind of why OP was bragging about Brooklyn. I've spent $45 on a couple glasses of wine and a little snack in Manhattan. I took my wife out to a sit down dinner in a little cafe in Brooklyn last week, and with appetizers and dessert dinner for two came in at $32 before tip. If we'd felt like Chinese or Mexican we could have barely broken $20.

>>6221446
>implying I want to be part of the city

Kekking hard. I was merely bringing up the point that Queens and Brooklyn are attached to Long Island, thus technically making it Long Island.

>all Long Islanders are guidos

I guess that's makes everyone in NYC some stinky foreigner or some out of stater that moved to the city 'for the experience!!1!' only to move back to their home town because no one wants to raise their kids in NYC.

Maybe you'd understand better if it wasn't for that shitty NYC education.

>>6222337
>that shitty NYC education.
I raised two kids in Manhattan. One graduated from Bronx Science, the other went to college on a full honors scholarship. The schools here, like the food prices vary wildly by neighborhood. Even more important is not letting your kids be poor students.

>>6222367
STUYVESANT, BROOKLYN TECH, BRONX SCIENCE, SOME OF THE NEWER CHARTER SCHOOLS

KIDS FIGHT TO GET IN ON THAT

AND THEN THE PRIVATE SCHOOLS OFCOURSE, STRAIGHT SHOT FARM SCHOOLS FOR THE IVY LEAGUE

>SHITTY NYC EDUCATION

>All these people bragging about how multicultural there area is and how many shitskins are on the street

Truly the board for cu/ck/s

>>6222423
2MANY CUCKS

>>6222423
>>6222428
Some of us can't into jingoism and racism, especially when food is involved.

>>6222162
you misspelled bushwick

>>6222337
you just said queens and brooklyn are long island. i kind of want to fuck your mouth.

>>6219962

Like to tell ya dud but I'm in my 4th year at Hudson University in New York City (planning on 5) and the food here is amazing. Cooks from the CIA run the kitchens and it underwritten by alums like Jack Black, Jimmy Falllon, and the Pew Trust. Steak is offered every meal as well as a variety of seafood. It is the best.

>>6222442
>embracing the destruction of your own culture and the takeover f you country by foreigners

You're a jew, aren't you?

>>6219962
I live in rural southern alberta. It's a nightmare for someone who loves all kinds of food. If I REALLY want something good I can drive to Calgary and get it (and it will be great) but that's 2 hour drive there and 2 hour drive back not counting inner city traffic. So realistically I'm limited to what is in my small city.
1) All Chinese food in interchangeable and the same greasy awful shit. I am convinced they all buy their same exact ingredients from the same distributor. There is barely any difference.
2) Sushi is relatively new here. Only been around for MAYBE 10 years and in those 10 years there was predominantly only 1 place. Fish is decent but obviously not that great since I'm in the prairies.
3) Most "ethnic" cuisine dies out pretty fast. We had a great somalian (or some african country, I think it was somali) restaurant that served great food but they eventually went under. People just want their family restaurant style food.
4) Indian food is decent. Nothing amazing but not terrible either. Only a couple places.
5) We have tons of Vietnamese places and they are all really, really good. I don't know why but seriously vietnamese is the asian food of choice by far around here. Nothing else comes close.
6) Anything not grown locally is ridiculously expensive and not fresh. This is especially true mostly with veg at non-quality restaurants.

In conclusion it's a pretty shitty place to live if you really love food that isn't steak and potatoes. Food is, generally, pretty shitty and it costs a ton of money. Plus we have very little diversity in choices.

>>6222466
>takeover f you country by foreigners
Dude, that's what America's been all about for centuries, especially NYC.

>>6222498
If I recall correctly America was approximately 90% white immediately after WWII and is now only 63% white, even less if you don't count white Hispanics.

>>6222513
Look at what America was eating after WWII, versus our options now. I'm quite happy with how things are going.

I'm up in Fargo and we've been gradually getting better. In the last 10-15 years or so it seems like we've been having a bit of a renaissance since the recession barely hit us at all so tons of new ethnic restaurants and stores have opened along with the influx of immigrants coming here, especially somalians for some reason. The old white people are usually scared to try anything new of course, but whatever. The rest of north dakota still has some catching up to do though because I think they're about 20 years behind the rest of the nation culturally. I'd still put Fargo at about 5 years behind.

>>6222337
>mfw tested into Hunter grade and HS school
>mfw Harvard on scholarship
>mfw parents were graphic artist and low-level management at Columbia

ok, child

oh, and Canada and Mexico are part of the US, since they touch

>pic attached is really mfw reading your post

>>6222466
==============> /pol/

>>6222387

>fight to get in on that

since when? they just test you for it based on teacher recommendations...you don't even have to be a well behaved student or have good attendance... or even fucking do homework... you just gotta be good at testing... i would know cuz i had to waste a fucking saturday on that shit, and i was an awful student... i actually purposely failed by circling random answers cuz going to any of those schools seemed like a good way to get fucked into too many high expectations and too much bullshit...

not to mention in nyc you can literally fail every fucking class you have, and never even show up to school and still get a diploma thanks to the regeants test... again i would know...i skipped school pretty much every day, never did homework or classwork, fucked around, drove teachers crazy (i made them cry, i got one to quit in his first year, i had another send me to principal's office for "leading the entire class into misbehaving and failure"), and the principal's of 2 of my high schools still remember me a decade later (over a decade for the first one...the deans in murrow deal with you and not really for truancy) cuz i was that much of an asshole... but all i had to do was get 85's and above on all the regeants tests (in spite of failing classes) and i still got all the credits and my diploma handed to me + invitations to national honours society bullshit and academic awards

the education system is kinda bullshit in ny...it's easy as shit to get over on, and you don't actually learn anything in those classes...and holy shit some of the teachers that get tenure are a joke

>>6222387
>wanting to spend 40k a year when my kid isn't in college

Or I could live in an area with a great, public school system that don't even have to rely on charter schools and have a short train ride to the city.

>>6222445
>Long Island is an island in the U.S. state of New York. Stretching northeast from New York Harbor into the Atlantic Ocean, the island comprises four counties, including two (Kings and Queens) that form the New York City boroughs of Brooklyn and Queens, and two (Nassau and Suffolk) that are farther out on the island and mainly suburban.
>including two (Kings and Queens) that form the New York City boroughs of Brooklyn and Queens

Although the article does go on to acknowledge that when referring to 'Long Island,' it's generally only including only Nassau and Suffolk, Queens and Brooklyn are literally attached to the fucking island, thus making it part of the island. Get fucked.

>>6222545
>all New York schools are like that
>it's not like the majority of shit holes

>>6222968
See this post. All my friends who went to school in the city went to a private, expensive school, no one went to a fucking public school

>>6222473
Is the avocados thing real or are people making that shit up?

Sheepshead bay, Brooklyn here. Any co/ck/s around me? Just finished my A.A.S. in culinary arts from kingsborough, yea its a community college but the culinary program is really good and its better then spending 40k at FCI. Been working part time at this small smoked meat and sandwich shop in carroll gardens for over a year now, but gonna quit soon to find a full time job at a better place. Theres some really good places to eat around me if u wanna check it out. My favorites are Pho Hoai on ave.U and east 19th which is a fucking amazing viet restaurant. $6 gets you a fucking huge bowl of delicous pho. Also on ave.U and east 15th. is mexican restaurant which is just fucking amazing. Like best mexican I ever had. They got lengua tacos, al pastor tacos, giant ass burrittos, enchiladas, horchata, etc. Mad cheap prices too.

>>6223051
except i've also been in private school... and the regeants is a city standard, don't pretend it isn't...

>>6223179

+ all schools are just a matter of learning how to exploit a bullshit system, and private schools, gifted schools, and honours programs are all equally fucking retarded... i went to a lot of schools, and all of them were about the same

>>6223168

Cmon you faggots, I know theres someone around me who wants to go get a burrito.

Goddamn East Coasters thinking that they are the pinnacle of everything.

Who /SoCal/ and/or /IrvineAsianFood/ here

>>6219969

they do use chopsticks, but only for noodles

fork & spoon for everything else

>>6221909

>drinking better wine

NYC bro here but have to call this one out -- I found local wine in Australia to be of exceptionally high quality on average. Like, really quite good in general. I happen to like Syrah and Semillon but there's plenty to choose from.

Meanwhile a lot of the European wine in NYC is poorly cared for in shipping and doesn't really get here in great shape; a lot of the best California wine doesn't ever make it out of Cali; and our local wine (sorry, North Fork!) is pretty much shit.

So while we can certainly drink _expensive_ wine I'm not sure it's better, even among wine folks, than what they drink in Melbourne.

Dat Yarra Yering doe

I'll also give Australia a big shout-out for the quality of the Asian food. Thai food, vietnamese food, chinese food -- all awesome

>>6223051
>canada and mexico are literally attached to the fucking country, thus making it part of the country

>>6223380
I'm in SoCool but rarely eat ching chong foods besides typical Chinese

Houston here. You can have it all here. As long as you have a car, shits sprawled all over the place. To me the metro feels more like a small state with skyscrapers in the center. I love it though.

>>6219962

Fuck NY. Spent three days there, nearly became an alcoholic after one- however most of it must not be like that.

Anyway.

Depends what you mean by "NOT living in a place like this." in Cali we have a good amount of different places to eat/get food. "Weird" ingredients can be had at an ethnic market or online, there's typically a restaurant that serves some sort of food that you haven't had before.

>>6223331
i'm down only if we bring this special snowflake >>6223051 & show him a real good time

>>6223472
>comparing countries to counties

>>6224186
only if ur paying bby ;^)

>>6223519
There is no point in living in a place that requires a car unless it's rural. Cities should have a good rail network and be pedestrian and bicycle friendly. Houston is like LA but more angry and more guns

>>6224507
Go have a kale smoothie faggot

>>6224507
>There is no point in living in a place that requires a car unless it's rural
Are poor people required to say shit like this to get their gov. handouts?

>>6224507
enjoy your lack of freedom

>>6224523
I make more than you
>>6224567
>driving around in gridlock
>freedom
Pick none

>>6224584
no you don't, you train riding casual scum

>>6221050
Washington DC would be added to the list for something like this.

>>6224507
>HE DOESN'T TAKE THE ROVER OUT TO HIS BEACH HOUSE IN THE HAMPTONS ON THE WEEKENDS
PLEBS PLS

BUT GODDAMN THAT LIE TRAFFIC, FUCKING HELL

NASSAU COUNTY IS A PIECE A SHIT

BASED SUFFOLK, LIGHT AT THE END OF THE TUNNEL

>>6224588
And I pay the taxes that get transferred to your useless meth state. You're welcome.

>>6223168
Don't get over that way much anymore, but I used to go to Joe's on Ave U.

>>6224391
gladly. do you work salaryman hours or are you free for drunklunch during the week?

bump

>>6225220
What the absolute fuck is wrong with you? Suffolk is white trash garbage.

yeah

>>6226143
No, I work and do school at night.

>>6227082
This. Apart from a few nice areas, it's all hicks. Remember:

631, teeth optional

>>6227082
>DEALING WITH THE NATIVES

SUFFOLK CONTAINS THE SOUTH FORK HENCE THE GOAT LI COUNTY

NORTH FORKS OK, ITS GOT WINERIES OUT THE ASS

NASSAU IS JUST SOMETHING YOU DRIVE THROUGH, OR CRAWL THROUGH, AT 12MPH

>>6227082
mfw suffolk is in england and is a beautiful place...... great cider too

>>6219969
>They actually believe that Thai people use chopsticks

Protip: Thai people DID use chopsticks, until the King decided "we modern now" and told everyone to use forks and knives.

If you ever find a collection of real photos of Thailand back in the old days, the women went around with a sarong wrapped aroung their waist and hanging down, and with their breasts bare. Very National Geographic. Almost all of those old photos were destroyed "because civilized people wear clothes".

>>6219962
>>6220046
But it didn't, really.

My parents moved to Chicago from the deep South. In Chicago, we went to all sorts of neat restaurants -- best pizza in the world (Lou's), weird Chinese places, Japanese, fast food, even Indian crap.

Visiting my grandparents, it was an hour drive to go to their favorite "Chinese" place, which basically served fried chicken in duck sauce, and some sort of fried noodles in oyster sauce. That was about it.

Even now, some of those awful old restaurants are still around. There is an "Italian" place that served food even worse than canned ravioli, and a "seafood" place that my aunt would get sick every time anyone dragged her there. It's truly horrible flyover food.

So, I got to experience both lifestyles -- modern city living, with everything available, and deep country living, where there is practically nothing that you don't make yourself.

Frankly, the country living has a lot going for it. My grandmother could make absolutely everything taste good. She baked biscuits every morning, and they were awesome. She and her friends would get together for lunch several times a week, everyone cooking a little something to bring and share. It was a good life.

>>6228945
It sounds like you compared an urban area with a rural area, that says nothing of the south to the midwest.

Unless of course your family lives in New Orleans or Atlanta or wherever, in which case you just have a pleb family if they couldn't find a decent restaurant.

>>6228955
OP was asking about having limited food variety (mostly restaurant-oriented), that's mainly what I was addressing.

"Southern cuisine" *is* pretty damn limited, frankly. Cornbread, fried chicken, biscuits, etc. These are all staples. You don't find people whomping up a big batch of green curry or pad thai or tacos, or at least you didn't when and where I was sometimes growing up.

And no, Nawlins and Hotlanta aren't representative of the rural south. That "seafood" place was literally the first non-fast-food local restaurant that I ever saw there. People thought it was a treat, even though the food was (and is) awful, and half the time the fish was going bad by the time they got it and served it.

>>6229044
Well yes, rural areas have limited food, you just made it sound like you though the south in general was limited because you found more choices in Chicago than bumfuck where you are from. I don't expect to find much choice in the rural parts of the midwest either. I've had to drive through some of them, hundreds of miles of cornfield and then you find a little town with population 3 that has a truck stop/diner combo and mcdonalds or some shit. I assume you can find these places with limited choices in any rural area in any part of the country.

Just about any regional cuisine will be limited sure, but you didn't even focus on regional cuisine for chicago, you mentioned a deep dish place and then listed a bunch of foreign foods. You're whole comment was more wrapped up in urban vs rural and I just wanted to point that out.

Also you can find great "traditional" southern food in Atlanta and New Orleans. From a culinary perspective you can find the rural staples, and many other things including foreign foods of course.

Also I find your description of the area that your parents are from a bit weird, I'm guessing they're from an interstate rest stop.

>>6229061
>I'm guessing they're from an interstate rest stop.
No, that was big-city in comparison.

Why don't you go on a road trip, you dullard?

The answer is except in the smallest of towns, at least grocery stores will carry all the raw ingredients you need for a variety of foods, which is healthier than the Panda Express, Taco Bell, Fazoli's type "cuisine" that everywhere has.

>>6228939
> Almost all of those old photos were destroyed "because civilized people wear clothes".

Well, joke's on him because Thailand is now synonymous with hookers and ladyboys. Stupid Phra Bat Somdet Phra Poramenthra Maha Mongkut Phra Chom Klao Chao Yu Hua.

>>6222473
What avocadoes thing?

As someone who grew up with a relatively small variety of foods: you don't notice it. There are enough things in the world to derive entertainment from. If food isn't wildly varying enough to serve as one, your brain just picks different things.

I didn't actually grow up in a place devoid of options, either. I just grew up in a family that didn't

>>6228939
What. that's hilarious. which king? I want to read about this.

>>6220206
>another native ny'er here who think anywhere else in the world is beneath them

Goddamn, no wonder people hate NYers. You're all assholes. (I already know what your reply will be, let's see if I'm right.)

>>6229329
>making factual comparisons = everyone is "beneath you"
>muh 1 block with "ethnic" restuarants is just as good as your jackson heights, corona, jersey city, flushing, etc etc etc

You seem upset about something.

>>6229332
Another delusional post from another delusional Jew Yorker. Imagine that.

>>6229337

You really seem quite angry. Do you also get upset with people from Denver when they make factual statements like "I live at a higher altitude above sea level than you"?

>>6229332
Ha ha, I live in a city more ethnically diverse than you! Your food scene can't even compete, and my city is much small than yours. I bet that's hard to deal with for you, isn't it?

>>6229343

Houston isn't "diverse" just because it has a lot of blacks and mexicans. Those only count for two.

>>6229354
I don't live in Houston, dumbass. Try again.

>>6229360

Any place that has a better food scene than NY, and there are a few, deserves recognition. But usually when someone says what you're saying, here on /ck/, it's from some place that doesn't matter and they're getting overly excited because the cupcake fad finally arrived and muh muy autentico tacos de lengua from the hole in the wall.

>>6229366
That's a nice try, but you still fail. I live a city more ethnically diverse than you, that DOES have a better food scene than NY, plus it's in the very heart of the farm-to-fork movement. That's something you're just going to have to deal with.

>>6229383

where? I'm one of the jew yawkers in this thread but my mind is open to different places

(except that one person from long island, fuck long island. if you're gonna be bridge and tunnel trash jersey >>>>>)

>>6229436
Sacramento.
Oakland is even more diverse (they're #1 in the country, and we're number 2, while you're 3rd)
But yeah, the diversity here is amazing. I don't even live in the city proper, and within a mile of my house there's every kind of cuisine you could imagine. Plus, since it's in the "garden of america", (like I said before) it's the nexus of farm to fork eating.

>>6229454

Ah got it. I'd move to California in an instant if it were viable career wise. Unfortunately I'm in media and it's either here or LA and LA is not really my bag.

>>6229456
Ha, I understand, LA isn't my bag either, terrible city. If I had to choose between LA or New York, I'd stick with NY too.

>tfw squatting in my cousins Sydney apartment for a couple weeks
>tfw its all asians here
>tfw actual authentic asian cuisine
i can't go back to living in rural england now

pic related, kuih ketayap

>>6219962
I've lived in Vancouver my whole life. There's an amazing variety of authentic foods here if you know where to look, trouble is most of them require a car to get to in any reasonable amount of time. It's not too fun taking a two hour bus ride to get to the best Hunan or Cambodian places in town from where I live.

Thankfully there's a good variety of Japanese, Vietnamese, Korean, Indian, even a couple Ethiopian and an Afghan place only about 15 minutes from me.

Also Burgoo. Any co/ck/s living around Vancouver need to check that place out immediately.

>>6219962
Rural western New York fag reporting.
>What is it like NOT living in a place like this?
You guessed it: Lack of variety. The cuisine that dominates here is mostly Mexican, Italian, and trailer trash cuisines. Most cities and towns have chain restaurants (Applebee's, Bob Evans, etc.) with a spattering of fast food chains. Some might have a mom and pop diner as well as one seedy, hole in the wall Italian joint. My city has one Chinese buffet and it's notorious for having horrible food and making people sick, but it's pretty much the only asian game in town so people tolerate its presence.

Grocery game is terribad here. The only options to shop in my city are Aldi's, Wal Mart, Tops, and a Save A Lot. The selection is overpriced and lacking, nothing is ever too fresh. The lack of asian grocers (unless you live in Buffalo/Rochester) is really upsetting. Whenever there are asians, there's usually great deals and varieties on seafood which is my favorite. I can't find quality seafood around here and the shitty seafood that we do get is overpriced.

One thing I didn't see in NYC was much of an Amish presence; we have a lot of them out here. Sometimes it's fun to visit Amish communities and buy some of their dairy and pastry goods, but it's not mind-blowing and I've heard stories of people getting sick from consuming their food.

We also have farmer's markets since we're surrounded by farm lands. But the farmers around here are really fucking greedy and overcharge for their produce. Also I found out that a lot of the local produce is shipped out at a premium, meanwhile they're importing shit produce from Mexico for cheap but advertising it as "local grown" to trick college kids and townies.

TL;DR You can't get variety out here unless you're willing to drive, and nothing is convenient.

>>6229525

that sounds awful :(

>>6229528
It is, but I only have this semester left of graduate school and then I'm outie. My parents were idiots to live here though. Fortunately they managed to sell their house and moved to SC recently.

>>6221367
actually average home price in new canaan (1.5mil) and fort green (1.25 mil) are pretty close,new haven average is 237k,cant by shit anywhere in nyc for that so ct. not really wealthier,just whiter in the rich parts

>>6225342
thanks for mentioning joe's now a want a vastedda!!!

>>6229383
>Sacramento
Heh

No

>>6221367
>Wander around places like New Canaan

haha, never thought I'd see my home town mentioned on 4chan. Fucking hated growing up there.

>>6229659
Sounds like you have a bad case of denial.

http://priceonomics.com/the-most-and-least-diverse-cities-in-america/

>>6229568
You gotta compare apples to apples, though. Most folks in New Canaan live in houses. Some folks in Fort Greene live in houses, but most live in apartments, which are much less expensive.

>>6229716
>never thought I'd see my home town mentioned on 4chan.
I lived in Pound Ridge for a year back in the 90's. So wealthy and so boring up there. Nice people, but I was going out of my mind. Moving to Brooklyn was blessed relief.

>>6229436
>everyone from Long Island is Jersey trash.

I love this fucking projection.

Most places in America have most forms of ethnic foods.

>small mountain town
>friends family from brooklyn starts pizza place
>Mexicans all the mexicans
>7 hispanic resturaunts
>mexicans start japanese restaruant below my condo
>BlackJap sushi chef
>best sushi Ive ever had even after living in japan for year and half

>>6225342
>Joe's on Ave U.
fuck yeah
>>6229584
>now a want a vastedda!!!
I like their all meat lasagna served with two giantfuckingmeatballs on the side.

>>6229778
I'm not gonna lie, Pound Ridge sounds like a hip and happening gay bar.
If you have no direction in life you might want to consider getting some investors together and opening one

>>6229794

no. i'm saying if you're going to B&T you might as well be from jersey where there's amazing korean, dominican, mexican italian etc.

>>6221032
>Where are the middle class blacks?

Im here.

in Milford :/

>>6229800
dubs = truth

>>6227971
weekender eh? do u liek LES

>>6230209

pa or ct?

check these swedish meatball dubs
>inb4 I dont get my dubs

>>6230347
Youre dumb

>>6230419
>tfw didnt get my dubs

>>6221032
>And forget about any races that are neither pasty white nor niggiest of the nigger black. There's probably a state law against them.
>tl;dr fuck Connecticut.

confirmed for never having ever been to CT

You think fucking Mexicans and South Americans drive in or take the train in every morning from NY to pump gas, work fast food/retail jobs and clean homes for the rich white people?

Fuck no, they live in areas like Norwalk and New Haven.

>>6229800
I'm the guy that mentioned Joe's. My absolute favorite spot is La Palina on Ave O.

I grew up in an Eastern European country, in a region that's kind of like what the South is to the rest of the US (aka everyone thinks we're hicks and it's mostly true). It's fertile flatland, and my town, smallish-medium by the country's standards (22k people) had a lot of agriculture and industry going. We had a chocolate factory, a great dairy plant, a sugar mill and other stuff. Ingredients were local and fresh. My parents never took us out to eat, so I grew up with their and grandmas' cooking which was traditional foods and whatever new stuff my parents wanted to try. I think the most exotic thing I ate while I lived there was shark steak of some sort which my dad managed to get around Christmas. My maternal grandma and grandpa had a huge ass garden plus a plot of land outside the city so all our fresh veg basically came from them. They had pigs, chickens and turkeys too. I miss that a lot. So my experiences were limited there, but as a child, it's not like I knew better.

I can't imagine there's a lot of foreign cuisine in my hometown nowadays, aside from a pizza place or two, though we've had a surprising amount (for me) of Chinese immigrants. Hearing my native tongue spoken with a Chinese accent is the cutest thing. I've seen an asian market in a bigger city a few years ago so I imagine there might be a foreign restaurant or two.

Now I live in a decent size city in Southern Ontario. There is a pretty big immigrant presence here: Chinese, Korean, Polish, Greek, various Middle Eastern cultures, etc. The city likes to promote its restaurants and there's good Italian places, Vietnamese, pizza, shawarma shacks, a ton of sushi places that range from really good to OK, Indian, Chinese, and more. We had a boom a few years back when three Asian markets opened up all within a short time, which lets me get cheap produce and exotic ingredients. I really enjoy it. The only place more diverse near me would be Toronto, so for now I'm satisfied with my options.

>>6231732
Tldr

>>6220008
My nigga

>>6231400
whats good at la palina?

>>6233323
Everything. Especially, the seafood & veal.

got sick at v-day dindin