/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>5565191
Should you find yourself in Springfield, IL, grab yourself a horseshoe. Terrible for you, but delicious.

come to Wisconsin get drunk and never leave

italian beef sandwiches from chicago

probably be easy to find a portillo's from one, but the real good ones are from small places

>>5565191
no m8

internet stereotypes are 100% true you won't find anything but husks of corn to eat

faggot

>>5565191
Nothing terribly healthy, but there's toasted ravioli and chili mac/chili dogs. St. Louis, MO here also has some nice baby back ribs, which you'll want to hit up Pappy's Smokehouse if you can manage to visit (though get there before 3 PM or they might be out). And yes, the rumors are true, don't drive in East St. Louis if you swing by down here - just stick to the highway and ignore that part of town.

Aurelio's pizza. It's godtier

>>5565191
Depends. Which part of the midwest?

St. Louis: godawful crap to eat, you'll probably get raped and killed.
Nebraska: lots of CORN!!!!
Kansas: everything WHEAT!!!!!
Chicago: best pizza in the world, lots of gyros places, some stupid hot dog shacks but what the hell, Kuma's Corner, Reza's.

tl;dr: except for Chicago, it's a vast wasteland.

>>5565191
Chicago is probably one of the best restaurant towns in the country so if you're there you shouldn't have much trouble finding some good food.

>>5565191
Get yourself a breaded tenderloin sandwich in Indiana.

>midwest cuisine

>>5565259
>St. Louis: godawful crap to eat, you'll probably get raped and killed.
Mostly true if you're an idiot. If you know the area there are some good places to eat (plus the bad parts of town are pretty identifiable). Unfortunately there isn't much that's native, but the US kind of sucks for those purposes anyways.

Ohio is just depressing, especially for its massive population.

>>5565273
lol I've never understood things like this

>the cloying marshmallows really accent the naturally sweet potatoes

>>5565273
Looks good

>>5565274
Pic related, this is some really good BBQ.

>>5565270
Is that just a schnitzel sandwich?

Eat some smoked whitefish pâté in Northern Michigan or wisconsin(I think they have it here. Pasties too.

if you don't get some pizza in chicago then your trip is a wasted one.

>>5565289

chicago pizza is shit compared to ny.

Get a Runza if you are going through the midwest. BE WARNED, DO NOT GO TO RUNZA HUT FOR THIS, THEY ARE BULLSHIT AND TERRIBLE.

>>5565274
If you're at all a fan of coffee, go to Sump Coffee in St. Louis. Hipster as fuck, $5 for a cup, but goddamn if it isn't the best, most complex cup you will ever drink in your life.

And Ohio (at least Cincinnati) has all kinds of good shit. Skyline chili, LaRosa's pizza, Montgomery Inn BBQ, Grater's ice cream. Do iiit.

>>5565191
Midwest foods people crow about that I found disgusting:
Chicago pizza
Skyline 3-Way
Italian beef sandwich

Midwest foods I found god-tier:
Whitefish from Northern Michigan
Goetta (Ohio)
Cheese from Holland Family Farm (Wisconsin)
Polish food from Hamtramck, MI
beer (many very good microbrews)
SE Asian food (hard to find, but excellent in some areas, like St Paul)
Soul food in St Louis

As mentioned before, Chicago has good restaurants. Elsewhere good restaurants can be found, but they're often absurdly pricey, and many that look like they ought to be good turn out to be lackluster.

People in the Midwest generally eat like crap, which shocks me, given the access they have to good meat and excellent produce (in season at Amish farms). You can find some great stuff, but you have to get the fuck away from the strip malls, the supermarkets and the chain restaurants that dominate the landscape.

>>5565307
Cincinnati had a lot of the samey things. Maybe I just lived in the wrong parts.

That being said, Skyline or Gold Star?

>>5565278
It could be classified as one I suppose.

These in particular are made of pork, and some are absurdly wide and thin. I've seen them the size of a plate.

Awesome with mustard and dill pickles.

Detroit has some tasty pizza and coney dogs.
Wisconsin has top tier dairy and booze.
Chicago has delicious pizza, also the Chinatown has some good roasted duck.

>>5565300
made some jew york style the other day

>>5565307
>Montgomery Inn BBQ
Oh goddamn, my elementary school was a couple blocks down from here.

Chicagoan here,

first off Chicago does have great pizza, both deep dish and thin crust. Seriously, thin crust here is so good, but tourists only think of Chicago as a deep dish place.

Also, gotta get yourself some meat in tube form. Hit up Hot Doug's if you can, but hot dog/sausage places are everywhere (some better than others) but you can get a fix wherever.

Also, Italian beef. Most people will point you to Portillo's. Portillo's is damn good, but imo lots of mom and pop places have better beef. But you should try Portillo's anyways.

For fast food, try Culver's. Thanks to Wisconsin for that.

>>5565376
Chicago thin crust is pretty shit m9

>>5565313
Of the two, Skyline. But both of them can't hold a candle to Dixie, which is more of a Northern Kentucky thing. Right across the river in Newport if you get the chance.

>>5565378

>imfuckinplying

Did you eat at a fuckin CiCi's or something?

>>5565391
Good excuse to visit the aquarium I guess. Thanks.

>>5565191
Italian beef sandwiches from Chicago

Portillo's is the well known place, and they do have good beef. Of course there are small places that have better but Portillo's is really good and located all over the Chicagoland area

i highly doubt another region in the entire world could produce a better burger

>>5565311
>i visited every place for a month therefore i know better than anyone who lives there

your recommendations are so specific and absurd that they should probably be completely ignored.

It translates to "i had bad chinese food in bumfuck, egypt one time" except spanned over thousands of cities.

As for Chicago style pizza, NY style (thin) is still more popular just about everywhere (probably even in Chicago). Also good pizza you can get literally in almost any major city in the world and especially in the US. Every city is going to have at least a handful of pizza places that make great pizza.

Midwest has custard and cheese curds which are both amazing and you can't get everywhere. Fried cheese curds are like godly mozzarella sticks. Custard is ice cream with eggs in so it has a consistency and flavor more similar to gelato.

Italian beef is delicious but you can get at least a decent Italian beef sandwich a lot of places.

Midwest has kickass microbrews but that's becoming true of almost every region of the states now.

Culver's is really good fast food and all over the midwest. Great burgers, fried cheese curds, custard, soup, etc.

St Louis is a crappy city in parts but it's also well known for having a number of great BBQ joints.

Chicago and Twin Cities (Minn/St Paul) both have a very large food scene with lots of great restaurants. From fancy to hole in the wall places with excellent food.

>>5565212
>>5565376
>>5565448

Italian beef is fucking awful and overrated. No real, self-respecting Mid-Westerner eats it and recommends it.

>>5565300

This shit again...both Chicago thin crust and deep-dish are far better than NY rubber pizza.

>>5565376
I was just about to post Culver's. It's pretty good, if you eat fast food you should try it. But I recommend going inside the restaurant, it can get messy in the car.

>>5565191
Used to live in Indiana for a couple years and my mom lives in Chicago now, so I'm up there a few times a year.

My favorite restaurant in Chicago is the Berghoff off of West Adams. Part of it is nostalgia, as it was both my grandfather and great-grandfather's favorite restaurant in Chicago when they used to live there in the 1930s and 1940s.

Everything they have is hearty as fuck. They bring out some really good pumpernickel rye bread when you sit down ever so slightly warm. They have a great beer selection and even do a few house brews that are good.

Portions are huge.

The restaurant itself is original from 1898 and it's beautiful. It's not dark, but it's a comfortable, old world dim. Lots of history around the restaurant.

Other than that, I'd suggest finding a Rally's along the way for a quick burger. They're called Checker's in other parts of the country, and I don't think I've ever seen one in Houston. Best fries I've ever had. Burgers, if my memory is clear, are reminiscent of Five Guys.

We went to the airshow at Oshkosh one year and on our way out we stopped by a place called the Machine Shed (there's apparently a few of them in the midwest, think originating from Iowa). It's like an even better version of Cracker Barrel. Highly recommended.

what part of the midwest negroe, we're kind of a big region

I'll agree with the guy who said runza, but that's mainly if you're in the great plains. they may also be called bierocks or pirozhki

if you're in eastern South Dakota, mainly Sioux Falls, you should check out Bob's Carry Out. it's a small diner that has some of the best diner food I've ever had. extremely well priced, so go with an empty stomach

something unique to southeastern South Dakota is chislic. it's basically just fried mutton kebabs, but there's something about them. sadly, many places just fry up cubed up steak and claim it's chislic, but it has to be mutton, and it shouldn't have a breading or marinade. Botski's in Sioux Falls has the real thing, other places in the city just serve cubed steak on toothpicks. rural areas like Freeman and Parker tend to be better for it, but I kind of doubt someone driving through would stop there.

>>5565520

As someone who has lived in both areas I'm gonna have to go with you've never eaten NY pizza.

>>5565307
Montgomery Inn, Skyline/Camp Washington, and Graeter's are God-tier.

>>5565513
troll harder nigga

>>5565448
Really, a lot of those hole-in-the-wall places use frozen italian beef and store-bought jus. Not entirely satisfying.

OP, you'll be just fine going to Portillo's for basically anything they have on the menu. Some things you might find a little better, but it's mostly all quite stupendous.


Also, look for Bohemian food.

if your in the minneapolis grab a juicy lucy at the 5-8 club or mat's bar.

>>5565259
>Kansas: everything WHEAT!!!!!

You know how I know you've never been to Kansas? Because we have hardly any wheat. It's all corn baby. And bean fields to do donuts in.

>>5565653
also you don't go to kansas and eat wheat. you get barbecue

>>5565210
If only for New Glarus...

>>5565273
Midwesterner here. Can confirm.

I might try to get my parents to put the marshmallows on at the end and use the brûlée torch, the caramelization has always been the best thing about that.

>>5565259
>St. Louis
>bad food
>chicago
>good food
it's like you've never left the west coast

Just get through there as fast as possible or you're likely to develop sever depression.

>>5565711
nah m8 we're the happiest

>>5565637
There are a couple that are a bit better than portillo's but I'm not saying portillo's is bad

I'd eat there every day if I didn't want to live to be at least 65, probably just drink the au jus straight up too

>>5565193
Its weird when I find someone else from Springfield on this site. But nah, I've never found a place that has a decent cheese sauce. D'Arcys isn't that great. Sgt Peppers has the best sauce so far and that's just pathetic.

>>5565715
Interestingly, Colorado and Washington are in the top quintile.

>>5565546
Oshkoshian here.

Machine shed not longer exists here, it's moved to Appleton.

If you find yourself in Oshkosh i recommend the meatlovers skillet from Two Brothers off of 41.
open 24/7 and pretty cheap to boot.

Enjoy a ridiculously high concentration of bars

They also made PBR and Miller, so have mercy

A true midwestern experience is a taco pizza from happy joes.

>>5565796

speaking of Two Brothers, there's a great brewery of the same name in Warrenville, IL

Highly recommend pic related

>>5565191
Greasy meat.

That's about it.

>>5565259
>Chicago: best pizza in the world
Very debatable.

>Ohio
Chicken paprikash
Polish boys
Spatzle
Clam bakes
Cincinnati Chili
Jeni's/Graeter's/Aglamesis
Schnitzel
Sauerkraut balls
Goetta
Opera cream tortes
Pierogi
Kielabasa
Cabbage rolls
Peanut butter Buckeyes
Slyman's

http://www.hollyeats.com/Midwest.htm

>>5565842
none of those sound like they originated in ohio
not even the buckeyes

>>5565848
>Gonna be traveling through the midwest soon. Is there anything worth eating while I'm there or is it as culturally dead as I've heard?

Doesn't sound like OP's looking for original dishes.

WISCO BEER! ALSO POUTINE IN WI/MN CAN BE AMAZING IF YOU FIND THE RIGHT PLACES

>>5565890
This nigger is crazy for poutine

also before i forget... FUCKING FRY BREAD

>midwest thread
>only mentions of pizza are Chicago pizza

What the fuck, people. Chicago pizza and "Midwest" pizza are totally different things. You can't use anything from the biggest city in the region to represent the region as a whole.

Happy-motherfucking-Joe's (especially taco pizza), Casey's General Store pizza, Quad-Cities style pizza (Harris, Frank's, Fat Boy's)... there's lots to try outside Chicago and is more relevant to the region in general.

>>5565903
You're right.

Detroit has its own take on pizza even.

in case you ever find yourself at a grocery store, get some Sterzing's potato chips which smell and taste like french fries, holy shit, also Boetje's mustard which is one of the best spicy brown mustards you'll ever have, and Cookies bbq sauce.

>>5565191
lol here the local it midnorth

>>5565191
solly's burger, just get a regular cheeseburger w/ onions

also hit up a fine supper club for a brandy old fashioned and prime rib

also maybe a brewery tour, like new glarus

and since you're heading up anyway, may as well get an italian beef from chicago and a slice of deep dish

>>5565920
HELL FUCKING YES, glad someone else from MKE is representing! best god damn burger in town, also kopp's has ecent burgers (nowhere near as good as solly's tho)

>Go to Iowa State Fair
>Get fried butter on stick

>>5565920
>>5566030

As someone that's from Iowa and has been to Solly's dozens of times on trips to Milwaukee, I can understand why their burgers wouldn't be someone's cup of tea, even if they really liked butter. It's not a place I'd take someone if they were just in the mood for a burger, it's a place I'd take them if I said "ok, I want to show you a local specialty, it's not like anything you've had before, let's go."

Someone else mentioned Harris pizza, hell yeah. Strip-cut, finely ground fennel sausage under the cheese, thin tangy sauce, malty crust, mmm. It's about as Midwest as you get, really, next to Happy Joe's taco pizza.

if going to chicago
get a chicago dog
piss them off by pouring ketchup on your dog

>>5566059
isnt that what is being asked? any place worth while going? at least thats how i took it...

>>5566059
Where from in Iowa?

WI here, come get some New Glarus and brats.

>>5566097
Davenport. Went to U of I for college.

>>5566110
I live right next to Davenport. Going to ISU though.

>>5565715

w8 a minnit m7 Louisiana, Florida and Cali have been rated the happiest in other studies.

>>5566150
>ISU

West Street Deli 4-eva

>>5565715
Oklahoma fag here. Can confirm: it's depressing as fuck here.

Yats is pretty good. Lots of them in Indiana, and I think a few around Ohio.

>>5566230
just don't seek shelter next time a tornado wrecks your shit state

>>5565193
Seconding.

>>5565698
I live in the grey-area between STL and Chitown.

>STL
flat crust
>Chicago
deep-dish

Taste of Chicago is coming up. A lot of locals say it's overrated, but I think that for a touristy event, it is kind of fun.

I have no idea where OP's stopping at and the Midwest is a huge place, but if you want GOOD coffee and happen to be in the area, stop at 3030 on Main in Peoria, IL. Too bad it's not the winter because I could recommend you a list of interesting hot chocolate spots in Chicago.

>>5565653
>barbeque
DO IT

>>5565800
True

Oh, by the way, if you happen to be in Bloomington-Normal (ISU) or Champaign-Urbana area (UofI) area, it's not a bad idea to stop at Merry Ann's Diner. I can't really think of too many diners that open 24 hours. I personally like the Bayou Burger, but if you're wanting to share something, try the Railsplitter.

For Mexican food (not that Tex-Mex stuff), Taqueria El Porton looks like a shithole, but the food is anything but.

>>5566367
Oh shit, totally forgot. Whenever someone starts a thread like this, they tend to talk about Chicago style pizza vs the world. There are a lot of Middle Eastern immigrants in the Midwest, and in Chicago (and burbs/neighborhoods), a prominent Polish community. You should really try some of their native dishes at some point.

oh yes, corn, beer, cheese. pork sammicihes, sears tower, and depending on the time of year, hells heat or artic cold. and sometimes the sound of crickets. not bad.

jesus christ op tell us which areas you'll be in for christ sake

>>5566374

and Mexicans. Don't forget about the Mexicans.

>>5565234

also try st. louis style pizza and toasted ravioli. won't find em anywhere else.

>>5566583
And go to a better place than Imo's

>>5566583
>>5566596
Imo's is shit
complete garbage
it's the Arby's of Pizza

I've nothing to say about food that hasn't been said but the Midwest has the best beer in the world.
No, I'm serious.
Bell's Two Hearted is the best IPA, better than Stone, better than Dogfishhead, it's just the best.
New Glarus has the best session Ales, they're untouchable in that department.
Then you have Founder's, Great Lakes Brewing Company, Three Floyds...

It's a beer lover's paradise, and west coast/east coast yuppies won't stop whining and admit that their cult of personality craft beers aren't number one.

But yeah, food? Good comfort food, don't expect anything outrageous or complex, St. Louis and Kansas City (both) have really great BBQ, Chicago has great food in general, as does the Madison, Minneapolis, Detroit, and West Michigan (Grand Rapids, Kalamazoo) areas. But most "quintessential" midwestern foods are simple, middle of the road, but nonetheless satisfying comfort style casseroles and hot dishes.

In Minneapolis/St. Paul
-Jucy Lucy at 5-8 Club or Matt's Bar
-If you're here in late August hit up the State Fair for a day and get fat as fuck
-Get some good asian food on either Eat Street in Mpls or in Frogtown in St. Paul, big hmong populations there.
-Go to Lake Calhoun and have some fish at the Tin Fish, it's not high dining but the lakes are the best part of the city.
-Al's Breakfast in Dinkytown (U of MN area) is good breakfast in a unique spot. It only seats 13 so you may have to wait.
-Lots of small breweries have popped up over the last few years as well since local laws were changed. Fulton Brewery by Target Field is pretty good.

>>5566627

no it's not, you're just an anti-chain anti-establishment wannabe.

>>5565546
>ctrl+F "Machine Shed"

Good, someone already said it.

I live on the west coast now but I spent 22 years in Iowa. The Machine Shed was not only one of the single best places to eat around my hometown (which wasn't small), but also one of the most popular ones among out-of-state visitors. When I got married, my wife's family (who all live in Washington) came down for the ceremony and we had our post-wedding meal at the Machine Shed. Everyone at the table left absolutely stuffed and extremely happy. When we go back on occasion, we don't leave without stopping in again for a meal.

I know for a fact there's still one in Davenport, Iowa. Not sure where any other locations are since I only ever went to that one.

>>5565546
Fuck yea Rally fries.
The burgers are 'okay', and its not as overpriced as 5 guys.

Indiana is pretty much dead as far as restaurants and food culture goes.
We've got Penn Station in the larger cities, and you'll find a kickass burger in the odd truckstop here and there, and a halfass nice place for a drink near the colleges, but.. eh.
Fuck Indiana.
If you ever find yourself here, keep driving. As fast as you can. As soon as you get outta your car, you're stuck here.

>>5565920
i swear living across the street from culvers and just down the road from solly's would have given me a heart attack by now.
the one time everyone i was with decided to get the burger with extra butter.
never change mke

St Louis has a pretty good food thing going.

Door county Wisconsin fish boil.

>>5565273
That is really good. In Southwest Ohio try the Cincinnati style chili, too bad there are no restaurants that serve it in Springfield, Ohio anymore.

>>5566668

I agree with this post, except I wouldn't go as far as saying Two Hearted is the best IPA, maybe not even within the state of Michigan.

And what are some good beers by New Glarus? Every Wisconsinite raves about them. I've only had the Spotted Cow, which was...good. Good, but not great. Nothing truly special. What else should I try?

>>5567013
Moon Man and their fruit beers are absolutely top tier. I agree with your review of Spotted Cow, it's okay, nothing amazing. No idea why it became the most popular New Glarus beer. Probably just because it's closest to an adjunct lager.

>>5567061

I've heard good things about Moon Man. I'll have to try that out whenever I decide to take a trip up north. Or convince my friend who often does go to WI to stop buying cases of Spotted Cow and get other stuff instead.

>his face when I told him Spotted Cow was just ok, and there were a lot of better beers out there

He got so damn defensive. He doesn't even really drink craft beer. He was just told SC was really good, so he started drinking it and assumed that's what a really good beer is.

At least he's trying to branch out into the world of good beers though. Some plebs never even take that step.

>>5566354
You close to the 309?

>>5566367
Fuck year Merry Ann's! OP, you may or may not want to be drunk for it, but that's diner food you'll remember. Also in the CU, Black Dog Barbeque and Cravings, a shitty hole-in-the-wall Chinese place with huge portions and free tea.

If in KC you have to do the BBQ. St. Louis has some great toasted ravioli and its bbq is good too.
Stay in the missouri side of KC though unless you want to get shot at.

>>5565920

I used to love Sollys until I realized it's basically just a decent burger with a truckload of butter on it. Anyone can make a burger them dump butter on top and make it a Sollys burger. I had a chicken sandwich there once, same fucking deal. Just a bland chicken sandwich with tons of butter dumped on top. It didn't even taste better than what I can easily make at home and chicken was bland and not properly seasoned.

>>5567013

Spotted Cow is just their flagship beer so everyone knows of it. It's not bad but I'm not really a fan. Some of their lesser known beers, seasonals, and limited run beers (has the foil red top and only in 4 packs) are fucking amazing. Coffee Stout is one of the best of its kind. Raspberry Tart (comes in a wine style bottle and pricey) tastes like straight up juice but it's technically an ale.

I am a sucker for some Great Lakes Edmund Fitzgerald Porter it's god-tier.

>>5568291
actually kansas is where all the rich people are

>>5568334
Cherry one is best.

And oh god, that limited run apple ale. I made the best pork chop glaze with that stuff.

>>5568326
And that fresh made toasted bun. Not to mention the quality of butter that just works with that lean ground sirloin. Mmmm... and dose fries and malts.

>>5568339

The cherry one is a bit too tart for me. I still like it but raspberry one is sweeter and juicier tasting. Unfortunately raspberry one is only like 4% and I think cherry is 5%. Not a beer you buy to get blasted on anyway but the low alc % is the only thing I find disappointing about the 2.

The Midwest thinks piling meat into sandwiches until they are too big to eat properly is the height of culinary endeavor.

They are incorrect.

>>5568350
that's definitely not true here in the great plains. we're more about steaks and burgers than regular sandwiches though.

>>5568350
...huge deli sandwiches are more of an east coast jew thing

>>5568350
It's more about how we can combine bread, meat, and cheese.

>>5568350
better than piling meat into the ass like the shit coast fuccbois do

>>5568392
If you're from the midwest, unless it's Chicago, you have no reason to be proud of anything. This is coming from someone in a rural suburb outside of a small midwestern city. The whole point of this part of the country is to contain the morons, while all the cool people leave for better places. I can't wait to get out.

>>5568403
Unless you're younger than 18, what's stopping you now?

>>5568403
coastal faggot detected

Leave us alone.

>>5568405
I'm leaving when I turn 21.
>>5568410
I'm definitely not from a coast, but I wish I was.

>>5568416
>My body can't wait until I can hit up the San Francisco fag scene

we know

>>5568420
I'm not gay, as much as you want me to be. That's what I hate most about this retarded region; everything that isn't exactly like everything else is gay. Everyone who doesn't like football and trucks and beating women is a faggot. If I were gay, I would say so, because it's not bad or shameful to be gay. Your backwards way of thinking is dying out, and the world is better off for it.

>>5568420
>My body can't wait until I can hit up the San Francisco fag scene
Spoken like a fat guy in shorts who feels threatened by scary homos and food that doesn't come covered in cheese.

>>5568426
I normally don't lower myself to such a crude level, but it really needs to be said: you are so fucking ass-blasted right now. Enjoy moving and finding out that now instead of just regular assholes you have to deal with smug, self-centered yuppie assholes.

>>5568436
It's the same moronic bullshit I've been dealing with from hayseed idiots my entire life. Yuppies suck, and I do my best to avoid people overly occupied with the corporate definition of success, but ham and egger retards grunting homophobic and racist comments to each at the stock car races is not something I'm going to miss. And there's plenty of yuppie assholes in the midwest, too.

>>5568447
We get it, you're a libtard and think everyone around you is a hick or a redneck.

>>5568449
Or white trash. We have a lot of stuck up suburban twats, too. And idiot gang bangers. Basically everything wrong with America.

>>5565546
Rally's is pretty good but i wouldn't say it's five guys tier. I used to go out to get it for lunch in high school maybe once a week.

>>5568449
Not the Anon you're responding to, but the only people I've ever heard use the term "libtard" were rednecks.

>>5565191
If you're thru indiana then stop in Lafayette/West Lafayette for food. DT Kirbys is pretty famous and has the best pub food you'll get anywhere. Run by a chef who said "fuck it I'm opening a bar so I don't have to serve pretentious food all the damn time".

The Triple XXX in West Lafayette is less than 20 min drive from DT Kirbys and is the most famous diner in Indiana. Grap a breaded pork tenderloin sandwich there, thats the state food.

>>5568403
You're a cuckolded loser. You think fucking normal people on the coasts are hot shit for being born within a 100 mile radius of NYC, SF, or LA. I guess they told about how great their life is where their parents had to drop 1000s of dollars so they could go to some pretentious preschool in turn to spend 10s of 1000s of dollars to go to some shitty institution like NYU or UCLA. All of this done so you the cuckolded self hating midwestern poser could suck their tiny, greasy dicks and prove yourself and join the shit-show. Gratz cuck bitch you slimy cunt you shits on his home.

there's this long ass trail called the Katy Trail that runs through Missouri along the Missouri river. I rode my bike through the entire state last year. There are many wineries, Amish people selling crafts and foods, breweries, and small town restaurants serving up giant portions of mediocre food. It was worth my time I think.

>>5568477
That's not how I feel at all. It's the fact that interesting people tend to come from all around the country to the coasts, producing great music and art scenes, which are virtually non-existent in the midwest. There are places in the south like Austin, Asheville, and Durham that have them, but they're the exception. It's not that I think everyone on the coasts is great; I think cool people tend to end up there.

>>5568483
man you are so out of touch. there's great music scenes in Minneapolis and Milwaukee
I guess they might be genres you're not into, but it's idiotic to say there's nothing here.

but go ahead and keep glorifying the coasts.

Great another decent thread ruined by some retard.

>>5568483

just stop posting man

just stop.

>>5568490
Those aren't exactly small Midwestern towns, are they?

You can't act like New York, LA, DC, Portland, Seattle and San Francisco's music scenes aren't the best in the country.

>>5568499

see >>5568497

>>5568501
>I don't have anything else to say
ftfy

>>5568499
whoa what a fucking surprise, towns with 10,000 people don't have thriving music scenes

stop the fucking presses

and why the fuck did you even bring this shit up? we're talking about good food, not music and art. every town, no matter how small, has good food available.

so fuck off

Just stop responding to the retard and get this thread back on track

>>5568505
You don't live where I live. There's hardly any good food here, especially ethnic food. The best food cities are all on the coasts, too, except for Chicago. You can get anything from the Midwest on the coasts, too, since there's plenty of transplants. And it's usually better than the stuff here.

>>5568509

Settle plz. Your opinion is invalid.

>>5568513
Because you say so? I've lived in the Midwest all my life, I know what I'm talking about. I love to travel because it's the only way I can get a decent meal at a restaurant that isn't at one of the three good restaurants in my town.

>>5568509
Just stop. It's getting pathetic.
I live in a small midwest town and we have german, swedish, cantonese, vietnamese, southern mexican (along with tex mex), russian, and puerto rican all within a 20 minute drive.

>>5568519
Yeah, we all like to lie on the internet.

>>5568519

he's either trolling or incredibly dumb, either way it's just best to ignore him

>>5565191
Come to Ohio! We have corn and uh beans and more corn.
Ffs someone open a decent restaurant here, hard as fuck to find a non fast food or non shit tasting one here

>>5568526
>I don't agree with him and can't argue back
ftfy

>>5568527

at least you make god-tier beer

>>5568527
At least you have a great lake.

In Kansas we have nothing but corn and soybeans.

>>5565191
Great Lakes Brewing Co. is in OH. Some say it's overrated but I think it's pretty good.

>>5568539

Great Lakes is easily top 10 in the midwest.

I'd put it top 3 even, amongst Founder's and Three Floyd's

honestly, when just driving through the area your best bet is to check urbanspoon and see what the top rated places are. you're guaranteed to get good food and good service at those places, and they're often very reasonably priced.

I would honestly be surprised if most of the places recommended in this thread wouldn't be within the top 10 restaurants in each city

>>5565376
Is Maxwell Street Polish worth trying? I always wondered how American kielbasa tastes like, considering it seems to be mostly made from beef (in contrast to Poland).

>>5568557

Ya definitely worth a try. I mean Polish sausages can be found everywhere here (lots of Poles in Chicagoland). A Maxwell style Polish just has some grilled onions, a bit of mustard, and some sport peppers for a bit of heat.

The sausage itself is pork and beef, with some mild seasoning and a bit of smoke.

Try it if you can

>>5565328
>SE Asian food

>>5565328
oh man, the macaroni on the pizza. ha ha, how about a ceaser salad garbage slice too

>>5565546

Oh that restaurant sounds great

>compliments Cracker Barrel

opinion discarded

>>5568337
not the Kansas side of KC

>>5568453
How do you not realize that people are shitty everywhere?

My roommate is exactly the same way; he thinks that moving to New York will improve his life in any meaningful way, but it won't. People are shit and they're everywhere.

>>5565376

Isn't Hot Dougs closing pretty soon? I think it has already? I remember reading about that but am too lazy to look it up right now

Portillo's is probably the best and most consistently awesome regional chain I've found. There isn't a single thing on their menu that isn't great. Hot dogs, Italian beef, Maxwell polish, chicken, cheese fries, they do absolutely everything well. My only complaint is that the giardiniera they use (marconi's) has almost no real heat.

Giordano's is my go-to pizza whenever I'm there, their spinach deep dish.

>>5568925
Did you miss the part where I said I'm interested in music and art scenes? I'm big into stand up comedy, too. There's no denying that those things are, in fact, better in New York and LA.

>>5568929
>Giordano's
>Not Lou Malnati's
For deep dish, nothing beats Lou's. Actual pizza, on the other hand, would probably be Pompeii.

>>5568932
I lived in Austin, a city you mentioned, for 12 years. Sure, the scenes you'd like to be a part of exist in places like that. They're not just going to welcome you with open arms, though; it doesn't work like that. You don't just start hanging out with groups of brilliant, cutting edge artists, musicians, and comedians; not unless you have money you can throw around or you are equally as precocious as they.

This brings me to my next point: NY, Chicago, SF, LA, even Austin - you need money to be able to live the life you obviously imagine. Unless you are pretty damn well-off, you'll be hanging out with the same assholes, except this time you'll be in a disgusting, dirty city with skyrocketing crime rates (yes, NYC is pretty safe right now.)

I get that the Midwest is a depressing place, especially small towns. It definitely is. What I, and the other mad faggots in this thread want to impart to you, is that your dream places are also extremely shitty places to live for a completely different variety of reasons. Did you not see the pictures of that dude's house in Oakland yesterday?

Of course, having money changes all this. Feel free to disregard this post if that's you.

>>5568483

>cool people

LIKE U RIGHT BRO

>>5568967
My mom's a doctor. Until I get my own career off the ground, I'll be okay. Considering that career IS stand up comedy, if that works out, the rest of it will come into place. Also, the very existence of live music venues and shit like that means I'll have places to meet like minded people, unlike where I currently live. I'm not socially retarded; I make friends fairly easily, which comes from being funny / actually having interests outside of reality TV and NASCAR. If nothing works out, if I fail as a comedian and my parents stop supporting me, I'll probably just fall into the homeless drug addict/alcoholic life. I can't see myself working a day job. I would be so fucked into a completely Darwinian system.

Get some pasties in the upper peninsula of Michigan

>>5569016
Your posts read like youre fresh out of high school

>>5569016
>actually having interests outside of reality TV and NASCAR
You pretentious bitch, prepare to get ostracized
>darwinian
*tip*

Kansas City BBQ.

Oh lordy I'm late to this thread.

Omaha Nebraska fag here. If you go through Omaha, you won't find anything you haven't seen before. However, good restaurants are in an area called the Old Market, and then there is a lot of cool stuff near the baseball stadium. I also recomend checking out the Beercade. Just google it. Also, if it's late night, go to Donut Stop. An old lady opens her donut shop at 11 pm and is open til like 2AM for no reason. You'll find college kids and old folks there alike.

>>5569211
to be fair though, people not from the area probably haven't had runza/bierock/pirozhki before

>>5569211
Also, if you want to take some meat home. Omaha Steaks(its a brand that sells more than just steaks) are pretty good. Omaha Steak's burgers are pretty great if you want some pre formed burgers, the steaks themselves are what you would expect, but you get them better than what you would at the supermarket.

Back to the old market (funny story I'm at a coffee shop there as we speak) its your typical tourist trap/place where locals go to celebrate special occasions.

If you want to find some hole in the wall shit, go to South Omaha, which are the hispanic neighborhoods. I recommend a place called El Aguila. There is also a "gourmet" burger place across the street called Burger Lust.

Another up and coming place in omaha is a place called Dundee. Haven't explored it much.

Lastly, Jones Brothers Cupcakes is Gourmet Cupcakes. It includes all the decadent things you would expect from a shop that specializes in Cupcakes. Near that is Spirit World, which sells specialty liquor.

I hope this helps. Omaha is a cool place to live, but unless you're a college baseball fan, don't visit. Thank you LSU fans for bring the party every year you guys make it.

>>5569213
Omaha fag 3rd post
Bierocks are a kansas thing in my experience, but I don't have immigrants in my family tree. I'm sorry to say that I have not heard of a pirozhki before.

Lastly, I CANT BELIEVE I FORGOT RUNZA. Thank you anon. Great little fast-food chain. Go there if you want beef and mushroom sandwiches. THey bake that shit like its one big dinner roll

>>5569254
they're all technically the same thing, just with different names depending on the area. bierocks tend to be more bun sized whereas runza and pirozhki are more like torpedos or whatever.
but they all usually refer to the same thing.

>>5568521
You seriously think you needa live in a big relevant coastal city to find ethnic food?
kek

>>5569194
2 years out of high school.
>>5569201
I've been ostracized my entire life. The people I get along with are the other outcasts, which there tend to be more of in big cities.

>>5565191
>>5569211
Omaha fag reporting in
i would have recommended "The Smoke Pit"
it was a family owned bbq place with the best ribs ever but sadly it closed down a month or so ago

>>5569326
>2 years out of high school
>still clings to cliques

You're in for a rude awakening. Do you honestly think the majority of people want to work a square 9-5 job?

>>5569693
>cliques
It's not about cliques. It's about the people I do and don't identify with. I don't see eye to eye with the majority of people on basically everything, and I find the things most people care about kind of stupid. I don't say this to their faces, but the friends I have here just aren't intellectually stimulating or creative.

>>5568536
erie is like the shittiest of the great lakes

>>5569698
>It's not about cliques. It's about the people I do and don't identify with.

Yup, that's cliques. Not every "pickup driving, hunting, sports watching" person is devoid of appreciation for the arts. You're being quite cliquish with your high-school mindset.

>>5569725
I socialize plenty; I know what the fuck I'm talking about. The vast majority of people don't understand my references, and don't give a shit about any of the things I give a shit about. If they did, I wouldn't want to move somewhere where there are people like me. Sorry that I don't like hanging around people who aren't into the shit I'm into. Are there some people I identify with? Sort of, but I've only ever met two people in my entire life who I feel like they understood me, and even then, they didn't really understand me all that well. Don't assume to know my life when you have idea what it's like where I live. You're just mad because I made fun of your precious sports. Have fun watching grown men play around as children do.

>>5568527
NW Ohio has decent bratwurst
we have a fucking festival and parade over bratwurst in Bucyrus
the gyro shop is pretty good too

>>5565191
Stroud's in Kansas City
http://www.stroudsrestaurant.com/menu_north.html

caveat: I don't live in KC anymore and haven't eaten there in years

dat chikun fried steak - oh laws

>>5568403
Escapee here, don't let these jaded fucktards in the midwest get you down. The coasts are where it's at. If you think the coasts are just the major cities, then please stay in the midwest; we don't want your kind out here.

>>5569777
The coasts may not be just major cities, but why would you want to live anywhere else? I want to be where shit's going on.

>>5568436
>confirmed for having never been to the coast

Just keep thinking like you do and stay away, you inbred hick.

>>5569748
Hi Holden.

>>5568456
Rally's is "good"?

Wtf? Get off the food board and until you have tried some real food.

>>5568490
>>5568490
The big problem with those cities is that there's nothing there. The midwest is an industrial wasteland and anyone living there who doesn't realize this should stay there, please.

>>5568533
The brew crew in Portland would like a word with you if you think GLBC is god-tier

>>5569806
The upper midwest is easily one of the nicest parts of the country, Minnesota and Wisconsin are affluent as shit

>>5569782
What thee fuck is going on along the coasts that doesn't happen elsewhere?

>>5569782
You are young. Live it up. Cities are expensive, and there's some great culture there, but certainly no peace and quiet. You may change your attitude later, and that will be when you discover what the natural beauty of the coasts really are.

>>5569813
Have you ever been anywhere? Clearly not.

>>5569748
oh boy!
>you don't understand me
>spouts ignorance of others

yeah, nah. I think I may be more on the ball than the "stand up comedian" whose backup plan is "becoming an alcohol/drug addicted homeless person supported by his parents."

I hope you get your dose of reality soon so you can correct your life trajectory. Or miraculously succeed in what you do, but I'm expecting the former rather than the latter.

>>5569813
>>5569813
There's a reason why they call them "flyover" states.

>>5569841
the trajectory form NY to LA doesn't go over WI or MN

>>5569844
haha, you are so retarded.

I grew up around Cleveland. I am well aware of the pride these places have of themselves. It's almost as if the level of shittyness is directly proportional to the pride. I even have friends who live there now who refuse to come out to the west coast because "hurr durr, only rich fuks live dare!" They get their idea of what's out here from tv and movies. Aside from parts of LA, they couldn't be more wrong.

I can ski big mountains, surf the ocean, and eat the best sushi all in the same day. Try that anywhere in the shithole we call the midwest.

>>5569853
no m8, the rest of the midwest agrees that ohio is a fucking shithole

>>5569853
oh you lived in Cleveland?

Are you next going to akin the midwest to Detroit?

>>5569857
Historically, the "midwest" is the great lakes states, because of the westward expansion and the railroad. You can slide that definition all you like, but between Ohio and the rockies, there's all the corn fields you could ever want, the piss water they call beer, and bland food to make lots of landwhales.

I've lived all over the US and have been to 43 states, so far. The west is best, Maynard.

>>5569813
>>5569841
Minneapolis/St. Paul consistently ranks among the best American cities to live in and Minnesota is often in the top 5 as ranked by the Gallup Healthways Well Being Index. Good economy, great arts scene, people are healthier than average, and live less stressful lives.

Please stay sitting on your stoop in the concrete jungle hoping to one day be an extra in Law and Order SVU. We don't want you.

>>5569866
I respect your opinion, despite it being completely ass-backwards wrong. Maybe if you were talking about iowa or nebraska...

>>5565191
Come through MN in, say, 5 months and enjoy the lutefisk. Don't listen to these neckbeards that're just echoing what they've heard about it, it's not that bad. The smell can be a little off-pudding, but just like hard boiled eggs, they're delicious.

>>5569837
Have you never been to the upper midwest? Its like pretty nice with lakes and shit

>>5569871
I might agree that southern Cali is turning to shit, but the discount the best place, and that is the PNW.

I've actually had some good beer in Minneapolis, but it wasn't actually brewed there. All you can see for miles is farmland. It's rather depressing. If what you want is city life, it hardly compares to places in Australia and Europe.

>>5569841
Who the hell flies over the upper midwest? Ar you going to Canada?

>>5565259
>Chicago: best pizza in the world
Yeah, if you like tomato soup in a bread bowl.

>>5569876
As a matter of fact I have. You can find natural beauty just about anywhere, but my point is that the bulk of it is at the coasts. /thread

>>5569840
"Your dreams are stupid, so just go ahead and be like everyone else"

You forgot to call me a fagboy or a girl or whatever it is you people like to call those who don't act exactly like you.

>>5565273
Hey, don't knock it until you've tried it. It's fucking delicious and is best treated as a dessert.

good news OP. in the Midwest you will find friendly, unpretentious, kind people unlike many areas on the coasts.

we'll be happy to have you. personally I'd recommend stopping in my current town grand rapids, mi as we have some of the best micro breweries in the USA, and they all have amazing food as well. while you're in Michigan head up to the beautiful north and go on a winery tour on the banks of lake Michigan. little known fact, since Michigan is all peninsulas, we actually have the most coastline of any state in America, except for Alaska! don't worry, we don't let it get to our heads though.

heck, head on over to Detroit to see what a coney dog was meant to taste like or get some middle Eastern food from the area that contains more Arabs than any place in the world, save for the actual middle East. don't be afraid to try some faygo "pop". it's not just for juggalos you know. easily any Michigander's favorite soda (except for maybe Vernor's ginger ale). we also have better maid potato chips which are delicious.

>>5569886
protip, you're not as special of a snowflake as you think you are.

>>5569853
You can ski all over in Minnesota and Wisconsin, there is snow on the ground like 5 months a year

You can surf Lake Michigan, its apparently an actual thing, https://www.google.com/search?q=sheboygan+surfing&client=firefox-a&hs=5ut&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&channel=sb&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=zsq0U729JtCOqgafsoKoBw&ved=0CAkQ_AUoAg&biw=1824&bih=884
and you can buy good sushi in basically any city of over 100K people, its not even remotely hard to find

>>5569880
It's not a phrase to specifically mean those states directly below the airplanes, xenophobic retard. It's a statement meaning that there's just no reason to land anywhere between the coasts.

>>5565376
>Culver's
Fuck yeah, butterburger and chilli cheese fries are god tier.

>>5569866
>the piss water they call beer,
But the upper midwest makes the best beer in the country. Founders, Three Floyds, New Glarus, Bells etc

>>5565520
Let's just all agree that both places have shit-tier pizza that people only like because
>muh city

>>5569885
once you get north of flatlands, the midwest is really nice looking. It doesn't all look like shitty Ohio or southern Illinois

>>5569886
Enjoy your complete perspective turnaround when you meet the "real world"

>>5565890
Poutine in MN is laughable unless you're within an hour of the Canada border. And I'm saying this as a native Northstar resident.

>>5569893
>xenophobic
What did I say that could possibly be perceived as xenophobic?

You are the one saying only your special neighborhood is good

>>5569904
As opposed to what? Am I actually just living in a virtual reality right now? All life is real.

>>5569888
>grand rapids
>best beer

nah. None of the beer tasting publications agree with you. This is exactly what I am talking about. It's like the microcosm off all that's the worst about the US: xenophobic, self-deluded, ignorant, and proud.

The first 2 months I lived here I was suspicious of people being nice on the street. I had developed this thick skin to protect myself and it caught me offguard. It took me that long to realize that people are just genuinely nice and show it.

I glad you like "pop". It shows your advanced pallet.

>>5569908
Completely depends on the location.

I mean, it's just fries with curds n' gravy. Miller Park used to make i amazingly, although their fry bar has forsook it this year.

>>5569912
>guy afraid of anything not within a couple miles of an ocean calling people xenophobic

Are you trying to be ironic or something?

>>5569891
>raw fish
>landlocked state

good luck with that

Also, just having snow (really just ice and not very deep) is not the only thing you need to make good skiing. Any real skier who lives around you who has been anywhere west would tell you that.

>>5569918
freshwater fish taste better anyways

>>5569897
Really, I thought the same until I expanded my horizons.

Keep pleb, tho.

>>5569911
No, just a complete bubble influenced by personal perceived notions.

You've obviously realized that people think differently, what would make you think that you somehow understand the world we live in? Anyone out of high school is laughing at you.

>>5569918
>Also, just having snow (really just ice and not very deep) is not the only thing you need to make good skiing. Any real skier who lives around you who has been anywhere west would tell you that.
the upper midwest has that glacial terrain, not the endless flatlands of Illinois and Indiana you are thinking about, there are plenty of suitable inclines for skiing

>>5569902
Like I said, you can find natural beauty in a lot of places, but not to the immensity that is the Western US.

>>5569921
There isn't any other region of a similar size that can match the amazing amount of top tier beers the upper midwest puts out. Sure the northwest and colorado make some great beer too, but not to that extent

>>5569912

there's that coastal friendliness again!

http://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/destinations/2013/08/10/top-15-craft-beer-breweries-in-usa/2637493/

>3
>4
>8

all in Midwest

>>5569917
afraid? don't project, guy. Some of the best scenery I've seen in the US is in Utah. My point is that the midwest doesn't have the best anything, but maybe fried dough.

>>5569929
the beautiful parts of the west are barely even habitable

>>5569929
depends what you're looking for

All of those amazing desert rock formations and canyons will not be found in the midwest. Forests, moraines, lakes, and hill-lands are all over here. Not to mention that a great lake coast is virtually the same same as an ocean coast.

>>5569927
Big mountains, son. I am talking 11,000 ft peaks that go down to 2000 ft. Also, you can ski year round on Mt. Hood. Try that in the midwest.

>>5569936
Beer, lakes, sausage and cheese

No need to even leave Minnesota/Wisconsin

>>5569925
Tell me more about how spending a third of your life making some other dude rich and then going home to watch celebrity gossip on the news with the woman you only married because you knocked her up is "real life"
Life is what you make of it. Just because you live an average, boring, hayseed life, doesn't mean everyone has to.

"untitled" in downtown Chicago

>>5569940
>I am talking 11,000 ft peaks that go down to 2000 ft.
You do this regularly?

>>5569934
>usatoday
>not shit publication

choose one

Really, try All About Beer and get back to me

>>5569939
Your wishful thinking doesn't make it so. You want to talk forests? Try where the major historical industry was logging and where trees grow the largest on Earth.

>>5569951
http://www.beeradvocate.com/lists/top/
Of the top 10 beers
5 from the upper midwest/Chicago
2 New England
2 California
1 South

>>5569950
It's an hour from Portland, so yes when I lived there I got 40-50 days per year. I have since moved a bit south and do more backcountry, because skiing is expensive.

>>5569944
Everything about what you said is some retarded preconceived notion that I'm not a part of other than having a full time job. When you live in a capitalistic society, you require liquid capital to acquire goods and negotiate services i.e. doing anything.

Fuck, you're retarded. Have fun with when that reality check bounces.

>>5569960
Next 10
3 Midwest
3 California
2 Belgium
1 New England
1 South

>>5569957
The midwest has plenty of old growth forests. You're splitting hairs unless you like high-mileage hikes.

>>5569957
The forests of the UP and northern Wisconsin/Minnesota are awesome

Don't live there anymore, and not going to read the thread because of guaranteed shitposting about deep-dish vs other pizza, but you should try the following: Skyline Chili in Cincinatti. Italian Beef in Chicago (And pretty much everything, place is gold, food-wise), Pasties in the UP, fried cheese in Wisconsin (washed down with Spotted Cow), St. Louis has decent barbecue, and the rest is a wasteland of Cornfields, and Minnesota.

>>5569968
Next 10
5 Midwest
3 California
1 Belgium
1 New england

>>5569960
>http://www.beeradvocate.com/lists/top/
>>5569968
"BeerAdvocate's Top 250 Beers, as rated by our users."

You can keep your tragedy of the commons. The best beers come from Belgium and Bavaria. England has some good ones, too. There are some good beers in the upper midwest, I'll concede, because there are a hell of a lot of immigrants there and they are used to real beer.

However, the midwest is also home to Budweiser, king of shit, and this is what it's known for.

>>5569980
So of the top 30 beers in the world
13 are from the Midwest (only one of those not in the northern part of the midwest)
8 are from the West
4 from New England
3 from Belgium
2 from the south (both Cigar City of course, the rest of the south is in the stone age still)

>>5569973
UP and the like have great fall colors, I'll give you that. We just don't have that many hardwoods out here. My point is that as far as scale goes, the midwest just doesn't compare to the west.

>>5569983
who cares what it's known for if it's not particularly accurate? new york is more than just jews, the south is more than just poor blacks, and utah is more than just mormons.

>>5569991
Even if I concede your point, what do you have, just alcohol and some lakes that used to be clean?

>>5569983
>The best beers come from Belgium and Bavaria
Belgium makes really good beer, not as good as the top american brewers anymore but still really good. Bavaria is ok, but hardly competitive with either Belgium or America, they make a small handful of generally mediocre styles really well, but also remember that america was largely settled by them and they brought all of their brewing tradition with minus the shitty restrictive attitude of central european beer consumers

>>5569983
>However, the midwest is also home to Budweiser
Nope, owned by a belgian company.

>>5569991
>the south is more than just poor blacks,
Yeah, they have poor whites too

>>5569996
About as much as any other place other than Wall Street, DC, Hollywood, or Disney World.

>>5569998
Restrictive, like the reinheitsgebot? You should taste more Belgians. Craft beers in America are fairly new and they just don't have it down like breweries such of the abbeys of Belgium who have been doing it the same way for hundreds of years. Ayinger (bavarian) always has beers in the 90s and has more top honors than any other brewery. A couple of hosers in Minnesnowta may get their nut sometimes, like any squirrel, but considering them "best" is far from accurate.

This is the most popular thread on /ck/ right now.

You guys are pathetic. My dad can beat up all of your dads.

>>5570001
And chrysler is owned by Daimler. What's your point? It's still made in the US and distributed largely in the US.

>>5569987
Top 40
19 Midwest
10 West
5 New England
4 Belgium
2 South

>>5570011
nuh-uh, my dad would dick your dad hard

>>5570010
>You should taste more Belgians
I was specifically talking not about Belgium, Belgian beer is great

>>5570016
At the very least we all agree that Budweiser is shit, and at least this is pertinent to /ck/

>>5570010
>Craft beers in America are fairly new
sure
> and they just don't have it down like breweries such of the abbeys of Belgium

Why do you think this though, its incredibly easy to find excellent american beer, it doesn't take that long to develop great beer, especially when you are working with newer tastier hop varieties (belgian yeast using Citra IPAs are the best thing ever)

>>5570025
It really is. All of the water they use there has a bad taste.

And this is coming from someone who has relegated himself to miller high life.

>>5570010
>but considering them "best" is far from accurate.
Then why do practically every source in existence agree america currently makes the best beer?

>>5570031
High Life is easily better than Bud

Even the upper Midwest cheap beer is better than the lower parts of the county's equivalent

St. Louis fag here, do come. Food is excellent.

>>5570030
Have you ever tried a Lambic? Sam Adams tried, but you just can't copy these.

>>5570031
>miller high life
Hey, as far as cheap macros go, MHL isn't actually that bad. Yeah, if you compare it to Microbrews, or even Sam fucking Adams, it's shitty pisswater, but it's less shitty than coors or Budweiser.

>>5570036
American pilsners are all shit, IMO. Try true czech beer like czechvar (originally budvar and made illegal to import because of bud) or a Grolsch and the american versions will start to seem more like urine.

>>5570049
Considering that you've most likely only tasted our exports, then yes they are "shit."

We don't export a lot of our better beers, even between states.

>>5570053
I've never been much of a lager person, save for the heavy ones. My favorite beers are Trappist, and therefore ales.

>>5570049
Saint Arnold has a great seasonal pils and earlier this year made a limited release pils that was fucking ace. Left Hand also makes a great pilsner. If by American pilsners you are talking about Miller Lite then you had some cheap swill son.

>>5570053
Talking about export, I would certainly like to taste the Lambics that never leave Belgium. Even the Gueuze we get here in the states is blended.

>>5570041
>Have you ever tried a Lambic? Sam Adams tried, but you just can't copy these.

I don't think anyone does sour fruit beer better than New Glarus. Every single one of theirs I have tried is better than any other sour fruit beer I have had from anyone else

>>5570049
>ry true czech beer like czechvar (originally budvar and made illegal to import because of bud) or a Grolsch and the american versions will start to seem more like urine.
sure, but the Czech versions taste pretty mediocre too

>>5570075
New glarus is going to start pumping out a lot more sour beers now that their expansion is fully functional. Oud Bruin is being released this week

>>5570065
The cheap ones are the ones usually referred to as "American pilsners". Budweiser, Rolling Rock, Miller. An American craft brewery that tries the czech style pils may be both American and a pilsner, but there's a distinction. Even in a beer awesome town like Portland, at one of the best tap houses in town for variety and sheer number still has it's number one seller as Bud Lite. Sad, really. On the other hand, I acquired a 14 year old, perfectly stored, Samiclaus (biggest beer without cheating) from there that Lars pulled out from nowhere. OMG, was too good.

>>5565191
if you find you're self going through St.Louis you have to go to Pappys smokehouse. this stuff is so damn good. fyi make sure you get there before 12 our they start running out of meat

>>5570075
There's a distinction between sours, belgian old ales, and Lambics, though. Lambics have no yeast added by the brewer and simply ferment from the local flora. You can't copy this because you would have to take the country with you.

>>5570079
In the spectrum of beers, yes, I agree.

>>5570088
>at one of the best tap houses in town for variety and sheer number still has it's number one seller as Bud Lite
Not true at all. and where it is, this is certainly because of the massive variety of great options preventing any of them from achieving a plurality. Hell in the entire state of Wisconsin, New Glarus's spotted cow outsells Bud Light

>>5570103
it doesn't need to be the same to be as good or even better

>>5570119
Certainly. Styled tried have won awards for other categories. It's all subjective, and that's why we love it.

>>5570126
if you are a fan of sour fruit beers, read this article about New Glarus
http://www.thedailypage.com/beer/article.php?article=43082

>>5569881
>>5565833
>thinks deep dish is all Chicago has
Chicago easily has the most underrated, and possibly the best thin crust pizza in the country.

>>5565234
What this man said. Pappy's has some killer BBQ

>>5565191
still true

>>5569881
>tomato soup
>confirmed for never having eaten Chicago deep-dish pizza

>>5569979
>Pasties in the UP
Actually, it's Indiana that requires strippers to wear pasties.
>and it looks really fucking retarded on them

>>5570016
>chrysler is owned by Daimler
It's no longer 2006. Chrysler is owned by Fiat now.

lel this thread was good until this assravaged coastal retard showed up and collectively lowered all our IQs

>>5570854
You mean me? I thought I made it extremely clear that I grow up in the small town midwest, and I want to escape to the coast. I bet you like to insist that other people are women or homosexuals, even after they assure you that they are not. You just can't accept any facts that don't align with your worldview, and that's why the midwest sucks. Open mindedness and intellectualism is looked down upon as "stupid gay shit"

>>5570964

You are so goddamn mad. Still replying in this thread. It astounds me that you are above the age of 16, or so you claim to be. Your posts read like a bratty 12 year old girl. You go on and on about how other people are stupid and ignorant and have a narrow worldview, when all you've manage to prove in this thread is how stupid, ignorant, and narrow-minded you are. You've been told multiple times in this thread to shut the fuck up because of how idiotic your opinions are, and yet you persist, presumably out of a combination of autism, OCD, and crippling loneliness.

And you say you want to be a comedian. Well congrats, dumbass, your antics have made me laugh.

Now go drown in the ocean.