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7. Guru
>Has favorites that change depending on the season, the drinker's mood, and the situation. Likes to explore new craft and European beers but isn't above drinking shitty MillerCoors when its offered by a friend.

Three beers is the calorie equivalent of someone's daily meals. And that's why all you beer "connoisseurs" are all fat as fuck.

Drink whisky, plebstain

>>5462242
>5-600 calories
>equivalent of someone's daily meals

>>5462242
>450 kcal per day

That's about what I burn in one trip to the gym. Maybe you should try leaving the basement and you wouldn't have to deny yourself things without having to upgrade your electric wheelchair again.

>>5462242
If thinking that makes you feel good bro.

I wish it was possible to buy beer that doesn't contain fecal matter, urine, semen, mucous or spit. I wish I could go back to ancient Mesopotamia, Egypt and Scandinavia and try their various beers and meads.

>"From northwest Denmark, circa 1500-1300 BC, to the Swedish island of Gotland as late as the first century AD, Nordic peoples were imbibing an alcoholic "grog" or extreme hybrid beverage rich in local ingredients, including honey, bog cranberry, lingonberry, bog myrtle, yarrow, juniper, birch tree resin, and cereals including wheat, barley and/or rye -- and sometimes, grape wine imported from southern or central Europe."

>>5462308
I bet they wouldn't taste very good. They'd also be warm.

>>5462310
>. They'd also be warm.

not in a Swedish winter they wouldn't.

>>5462308
that sounds awful.

lol at the idea of selectively buying European beer in 2014, thats just fucking dumb, you can buy substantially better american beers at lower prices

>>5462237
Right here, finally I'm good at something I guess. Always trying new things, have seasonals I look forward to every year, sometimes spend way too much for one good bottle of beer, and I drank a 26 oz Busch drunk in the park last night and enjoyed every sip of it. I like Olde English for what it is.

You clearly have no idea what is going on. Pretty sure almost no one starts off with imperial stouts and then progresses to IPAs, IPAs are usually the second set of good beer go to after the most entry level of craft beer like Fat Tire

There are two distinct paths people take

Path A: The uneducated redneck
1. Cheap Beer, mostly while underaged, most of this group doesn't go to college these days or go to some shitty southern school
2. Bud Light, almost all fo these people become loyal bud light drinkers
3. Euro beer, these people are so backwards and uneducated that they still have the 80s mentality that European beer is superior, so if they are trying to impress they will move on to a Heineken or another mediocre euro lager

Path B: Normal white dudes born after 1985
1. Cheap beer: everyone drinks cheap beer in high school college until they are 21 when being selective becomes much easier. This group usually goes with High Life or PBR but willing to go with whatever is on sale if its cheaper
2. Central European Lagers: This one occurs while still in college just before they come of age. Many of them have spent a semester abroad and heard outdated stereotypes from the 70s and 80s during america's light beer boom. These people are rather misguided, but their hart is in the right place
3. Entry Level Craft beer: Upon turning 21 they can start buying whatever they want rather easily and decide to start experimenting. Usually the first step are the most well known craft beers and psuedo craft beers like Leinies/Blue Moon. The entry craft beers vary quite a lot by state, usually something lighter from the states most commercially successful craft brewery along with the big national craft breweries flagship beers (Fat Tire, Sierra Nevada and Sam Adams)
4. IPA: next these people discover how delicious IPA is. They start gravitating to big west coast IPAs, but come around to superior midwestern style IPAs (like Two Hearted) by the end

>>5462221
>6.Enlightenment
>Just give me something from Central Europe, or a suitable clone if that's not possible.

Here ya go, Anon. It's, uh... Düff Beer! It's European!

>>5462310
The ancient Mesopotamians used chewing to break up the sugars in the malt.
So they'd have spit in them. Same with Egypt for the longest time.

They even could find the brewers' bodies because of the grinding down of hard seeds with their teeth.

>>5462380
5. Stout: by this point people rarely give up the previous tier, they usually just add to it (not sure where OP got his ridiculous exclusivity ideas from). Generally people go toward american style stouts as they usually taste better than old fashioned dry stouts, and move toward delicious imperial stouts, often flavored with coffee. Eventually adding in barrel aged stouts.
6. Expansion: People then typically add other styles like rye beers (though many of these also fall in the IPA category as many of the best IPAs utilize rye), Barleywine, legit hefewiezen (some wheat beers also fall in the entry craft beer category in some places) or belgian style beers. Belgium being one of the few european locations making great beer traditionally really shines here as people broaden what they drink
7. Weird Stuff: here is where curiosity really takes over. Smart people are always driven by intellectual curiosity, and they want to keep trying new interesting sounding things. This bring sour and smoked beer into the fold and pretty much anything that sounds new. A lot of these beers amount to one time tries, and people still drink beers from the previous 3 steps regularly. Also between 6 and 7 people often begin trying homebrewing. This is currently the final stage of beer enlightenment where people try a wide variety of new things and like all sorts of great styles

I live in the North of France, 1km from Belgium. Feels good man.
Tonight I'm going to have a drink with friends, I bought : Anosteke, Kasteel Triple, Angelus, Choulette de Printemps and Duvel.

>>5462242
>450 calories
>Daily

What in the fuck are you smoking?

>>5462355
I know that feel too, bro. I haven't the slightest where you're located, but speaking of seasonal brews, see if you can find St. Arnold's pumpkinator, or rumpkinator out this year I believe. Same pumpkin imperial stout, but aged in mount gay rum casks. Gonna have my family buy and horde some for me when I come and visit. Damn shame cant get some anymore.

>>5462500
>having someone buy you pumpkin beer
so you're like 19?

>>5462549
he clearly implied that he no longer lives where it is sold

>>5462221
>>Just give me something from Central Europe, or a suitable clone if that's not possible.

>This is what faggots actually believe

True Enlightened tastes here, you're a nigger.

>>5462500
Houstonbro here. Pumpkinator is pretty good. St. Arnold is cool in general for trying new beer, what with their Icon series and Divine Reserve.

just placed this order for my birthday
good times ahead

ITT:
>Men in their early 20's explaining "The stages of beer appreciation".

>Facepalm.webp

>>5463022
people older than 30 didn't grow up with good beer being available, so its much different for them

>>5462221
Neckbeard 4 lyfe
There's far too many beers available to get the same beer twice

>>5462986

where from?

>>5462221
Went through something like that:

>Macro pale lagers
>Typical ales
>Stouts and Porters
>IPAs
>Pale lagers
My favoutites right now are:

1.Unfiltered Pilsner Urquell
2.Singha
3.Bitburger

Anyone ever had Richards Red?

I really like it.

>>5462412
kasteel triple and duvel aren't that good (triple hop is ok thouh), if you ask me.
You should try Bernardus 12 (same recipe as Westvleteren) and black Albert or Pannepot from "De Struise Brouwers".
Some other good beers you might want to try: Orval, Rochefort and Seefbier.
Also, yes, I am from Belgium.

>Beer
>Not enjoying spirits and cocktails

Call me when you move from redneck to classy gent /ck/

>>5463188
Why do you think people can only drink one type of alcoholic beverage?

You remind me of the /ck/ kids who taste something for the first time and feel obliged to say:

>not eating _____
>2014

>>5463188
cocktails are for rednecks and teenaged girls

>>5463188
Why not both. I enjoy good beers, great cocktails (not the low grade you find at any bar), good wines, rums and cognacs.
Keep thinking your narrow minded vision about drinks is 'classy'.

>>5463198
Which "big city" are you in? Atlanta, Chicago, or Dallas?

>>5463270
um, what?

>>5463153
belgian beer factory

>>5463184
hey if you're still here can you advise on my purchases here >>5462986 ?

I spent last night getting drunk on IPA and brown ale, my poo smells really bad this morning.

>>5462500
>>5462500
Brother I live a couple miles from the St. Arnold brewery and bought Pumpkinator from four different stores the day it was released. I've never had the cask aged pumpkinator.

>>5462944
Pumpkinator is legend and I usually don't favor pumpkin ales. Arnold is probably my favorite brewer, the year round beers are solid, the seasonals are better, then they'll always have some awesome Icon or Divine Reserve experimental beer to try.

How do yal like the new boiler room berliner weisse? I can't get enough of it.

>>5462986
>>5463345
Still here. Straffe Hendrik is very good. I went to the brewery two years ago and had some tasting there.
Lindemans Faro Lambis is nothing overly special, but god, I love this beer in the summer. Sweet and sour.
Corne La Triple is also very decent.
Mort Subite Kriek is ok for a Kriek, but a bit on the sweet side. I like a good kriek very sour. If you are into these kind of sweet drinks your Lambic Faro is pretty good and you should try Liefmans Fruitesse with a lot of icecubes.
Urthel also good.
Triporteur, Prearis, Pitbull and Loterboll I don't know.

All in all, you are going to have a great time tasting.

Next time you place an order try this one:
Sint bernardus 12
Rochefort 6, 8 and 10 (drink them in that order on the same night)
Orval
Seefbier
Liefmans Fruitesse
Gouden Carolus Triple
Chimay Blauw
Lucifer

>>5462221

IPA is shit.


the IPA stage is, as you correctly pointed out, the stag where people simply assume that "real beer" or "good beer" is heavily hopped. That the fundamental beer flavor that has existed for centuries is very hoppy and as a result very bitter.


everything about that assumption is wrong, especially the historical part.

Humans were making beer since before any other type of alcoholic beverage including wine and mead.

however, IPA was not invented until the 1400-1600s.


also Belgium and France >> czech republic, pland, and Russia.

>>5463359

>all of those flavored belgian ales


chimay isnt even craft bro. its about as craft as New Belgium or Newcastle.

Chimay and Unibroue are both like that

people think that because they come in 750 mL bottles with corks and are bottle fermented/conditioned belgian ales, that they are craft.

they arent. both are made by giant french canadian beverage companies, similar in size to Miller coors and annheiser bush
also Lambic and any Lactic beers are absolutely god awful.


I just had some Liefmans Goudenband


holy shit that is terrible.


its simultaneously a moderately bitter ale, with horrendously sour flavor of grapefruit juice

I cant even understand how belgians could make such a terrible tasting beer.

>>5462221

in each and every one of your categories, i imagnie a faggot OP with dicks in his mouth projecting his shit personality onto others.

1-6 = Underage
7. We drink to socialize, nobody gives a fuck what specifically you drink.
8. Alcoholic.

so, maybe you should be satisfied your friends are beer bros and not alcoholics.

And to re-iterate my original point. You are a fag that bases your entire personality and your hobbies based on the relative reaction it causes on others. So instead of picking BLUE as your favorite color, you'll pick GREEN... cause "everyone picks blue..."

What a fucking faggot. We all know you like blue.

>>5463401

im in the IPA stage right now.

I don't give a fuck what "real beer" is.
I don't give a fuck what "good beer" is.
I don't give a fuck about the history of the beer.
I don't give a fuck if people look at me differently.
I don't give a fuck if you like IPAs or not.

I'm drinking an IPA because I enjoy the bitterness and the floral aroma. It's complex to me, although since it's just a phase, im already getting tired of it.

But, just stop assuming everyone is a little bitch like you that walks in the room and starts sweating
> is everyone staring at me? I better pick the most appropriate alcoholic beverage to smooth over this transition from "outside" to "indoors"

You forgot the superiority stage. Ask nearly any person in their twenties why they like craft beer and they will say something about not having to drink the swill that the big beer companies put out for the dregs of society that they are so much better than for having better taste in.

>>5463401
IPA is delicious, a lot of other beers are delicious too, many even more delicious than IPA. Stop being a child

>>5463404

> Chimay and Unibroue are both like that
> people think that because they come in 750 mL bottles with corks and are bottle fermented/conditioned belgian ales, that they are craft.
> they arent. both are made by giant french canadian beverage companies, similar in size to Miller coors and annheiser bush
also Lambic and any Lactic beers are absolutely god awful.


What the fuck are you talking about? Educate me if I'm wrong, but Chimay is a Trappist type beer.... brewed by fucking monks for ages in ancient barrels. It's like $20 bucks a bottle, like 15%ABV, and I highly doubt any "big brewery" made it.

There's only 9 other breweries that are Trappist. (brewed by monks)
Chimay Brewery ("Bières de Chimay") is a beer brewery in Chimay, southern Hainaut, Belgium. The brewery is located in the Scourmont Abbey, a Trappist monastery, and is one of the ten breweries worldwide that produce Trappist beer. They make three widely distributed ales: Chimay Rouge, Chimay Bleue, and Chimay Blanche; and they make one patersbier exclusively for the monks. The monastery also makes four varieties of cheese.

>>5463404
AB is bigger than all of canada

>>5463412
ive been saying that since the first day i tried a real beer.... how can you not say that?

i mean i get you - i hate associating with hipsters, so i would LOVE to say i like the taste of bud light. But... i just dont. Lowest beer for me probably sam adams.... oh you know what? I dont mind a corona once in a while.

>>5463416
they fucking worship a secret beer. why can't i be in that church

>>5463412
That would be step 5

>>5463418

I drink cheap beer once in a while, but I don't feel superior for having a sharp palate. I just like good beer and I'm willing to share my knowledge of beer with those willing to listen.

All this talk of beer is getting me thirsty. I have a fridge full of Ballast Point Sculpin just waiting for me to drink, so I think I will do that right now.

>>5463412
Well when you look at the typical redneck who still drinks Bud Light in his 20s, its easy to see why they feel superior

La fin du monde is my favorite beer.

Where do I place?

>>5463431
> Ballast Point Sculpin
lol you fucking asshole. That's my favorite IPA... and im drinking Bud Ice.... 2 32oz bottles for $3.50 can't beat that.

favorite ipas:
> sculpin
> ballast point big eye (i think thats what its called)
> Sam Adams Rebel IPA
> Lagunitas Maxius (i like it)

>>5463404
In one of the best Belgian café's (de kulminator) you can even do a chimay blauw tasting. You would be surprised how much each year differs to the others. It is a trappist, made by monks. Inform yourself please.
>>5463416
Exactly, he obvisouly doesn't know what he is talking about.

>>5463432
The problem is the hipsters are less superior. They're fucking bitches.

Imagine a redneck and a hipster walk into a bar.
> Hi what can I get you DeShaMall (even though you're clearly white.) ?
> do you have any single barrel double hip hop is dead kanye west pale ale?
> uh no... we have these.... here's a sampler.
> brings out 5 samples.
> Hipster: "Oh, these notes... are so... notey"
> Redneck: "Yee-haw!"
> Hipster: "Oh, this next one is interesting. it's got kind of a kiss at the front, and a kick to the back. Har har. I like my own jokes.
> Reneck: "YEEE-HAW im gettin drunk"


Like i dont know who you view as the superior person in that situation, but for me it's clearly the redneck. He's having fun. He's trying new things. He's living like a human being. The hipster is just a fucking android program... walking around pretending to have feelings but just

learning... slowly learning.... and soon it will hybrid with the world's computer networks and usher in a war of machines vs man.

hipster = skynet.

>>5463447
except hipsters drink box wine, not beer.

If you think a sizable percent of the craft beer market is hipsters, you are deluded, its incredibly mainstream amongst 20 something males

>>5463447
>He's trying new things
No, he is repeatedly buying Bud Lights

Beginner, I think.
I mostly enjoy dark beers, but I will give a shot at European light beers.
I buy new ones at the store if there's any, and determine if it's a keeper or not.

I only drink till I feel dizzy, have never got plastered or unconscious.

>>5463450

yeah pretty much this, although box wine for hipsters is more of a 2009-2010 thing, now it's back to wine from normal bottles. also chartreuse.

>>5463447

The problem I have with hipsters drinking craft beer is that they are putting so much money into the breweries that they are starting to expand like crazy, but it's becoming more and more popular and that means they will be dropping it soon because the craft beer scene has become tainted in their opinions. I'm just not sure if there will be enough people drinking craft beer after that point to keep a lot of these breweries spending millions of dollars to expand in business.

>>5463459
I have no clue where southern rednecks got this craft beer is hipster idea, while surely a few hipsters drink it, its certainly a smaller percent of them than of non-hipster males of the same age group

>>5463465
>The problem I have with hipsters drinking craft beer is that they are putting so much money into the breweries that they are starting to expand like crazy
Which makes no sense because hipsters don't have much money and there aren't that many of them

The craft beer boom currently ongoing is just because of regular college educated dudes

>>5463450

what the hell do you define as a hipster?

for me a hipster is simply a person that bases their opinion based on an external opinion.

So, do you like family guy?
> no. (not hipster)
> no... omg that show is so overrated (hipster)

Do you like craft brew?
> yes. (not hipster)
> obviously. I wouldn't drink that swill the others seem to enjoy. (hipster)

So basically, a total faggot. They're everywhere. Especially on this board. Half the people here are hipsters by my defiinition, cause every time i get into a discussion, some guy always comes out with
>oh, but thats bad because THESE KINDS OF PEOPLE DO THAT and
> its overrated.... (cause other people like it a lot, so that somehow changes my opinion)

Anyone that hates In-n-out is a hipster. It really is fucking delicious.

>>5463468

I think it's just sheltered kids being dumb, not necessarily southern rednecks as much as I love to shit on them.

Remember where you are: the board where starbucks is impossibly cool and hip, sushi is for weebs, and avocados are the new health fad.

>>5463475
Since such a massive portion of 20 something guys drink craft beer, I have a real hard time believing such an act could be considered hipsters. its mainstream as shit

>>5463475
So basically you just define hipster as caricatures of people you don't like.

>>5463509

Hipsters are more into the rare beer now. They like the stuff that is only available one day a year at the brewery that you have to wait in line for hours to get because it means that the beer is that much better.

>>5463517
I really don't think thats hipsters, maybe its just because I am from the uppermidwest where the beer culture is really strong though. It seems like any kind of beer is just too mainstream for them, if they drink any beer its some obscure cheap beer, but it seems they are more into weird mixed drinks and cheap wine

>>5463512
i provided a clear example.

hipsters base their opinions based on the indirect and dynamic relationship of other people's opinions.

So instead of ... i like death metal.. that guy likes it too... it would be like .... "all the people that like death metal are cool, i should like it too!" or "suddenly now that everyone likes it, im going to stop liking it to be different!"

Answer what you think of MLP and i can tell you if you're a hipster.

>>5463533
>i provided a clear example.
So making fun of bud light makes you a hipster?

Well hell, I guess I am a hipster

>>5463538
god damn it. areyou fucking retarded? read the fucking exampe you retard.
>>5463475

Do you like bud light?
no. (not hipster)
Do you like bud light?
no, that's what rednecks and poor people drink (hipster)

i dont like bud light either. but not because rednecks like it or because its "cool" to hate on it now. but because it tastes like shit.

>>5463541
>it's cool to hate on bud light
>craft beer is very hip
>chipotle is hip too

Just stop, you're embarrassing yourself

>>5463541
Yeah, rednecks and poor people do drink bud light. So I guess you caught me, I am a hipster by your silly definition

>>5463542

see, there it is!! you idiot. you just lost the argument!

> Just stop, you're embarrassing yourself

So, you want me to stop expressing my opinion... because it risks other people's opinions of me changing.

FUCKING HIPSTER.

i dont give a fuck if im embarassing myself. Ain't no shame in my game.

>>5463543
yeah, you're a retard. just because rednecks and poor people drink bud light, it doesn't make you better drinking "better" beer.

>>5463547

I don't really care about hipsters as such, I'm just getting fatigued reading the thoughts of a country bumpkin on what's cool and hip

>>5463562
i live in the second biggest city in the united states by population

>>5463565

LA is more of a suburb than a city, though, from a cultural perspective

>>5463550
Im not better because I drink better beer, I just so happen to both drink better beer and be better because I am not a redneck and do not have a confederate flag in my yard

>>5463166
>bitburger
>mah nigga

also >spaten munchen

2 types of beer drinkers

>drinking beer because it has alcohol in it

>drinking beer for the flavor + because it has alcohol in it

>>5463607
>drinking beer for the flavor + because it has alcohol in it

Reporting in. Beer for drinking/light buzz, malt liquor for getting drunk.

>>5463682
Drink some Belgium beers, you'll get drunk after a few. A lot of them are almot as strong as wine and 33cl. Drinking 3 of these fuckers is drinking more than a bottle of wine.

>>5463569
that's not true. its a huge city. there are suburban neighborhoods, bustling city districts and ghetto ass hoods.

its fucking city. they got black people selling CDs and dressing up in costumes on Hollywood Blvd, just like NYC and times square.

you don't know shit. calling LA a suburb, smh.

>>5463691

yeah but a 40oz of cobra/steel reserve/hurricane is 2-3$

You guys all take this too seriously.

Just go in with a open mind and try different things, see what you like.

That said some beers just do have less flavor (even in terms of concentrations of cognars). There is some objectivity to it...

Neckbeard
>hurr ipas are bad guys look at how much BALANCE the beer i drink has

What stage am I at?
I fucking slum it with Genessee when I feel like drinking shit, and I do feel like drinking garbage sometimes.

>>5464344
stop buying that southern tier bullshit. fill the space with something ommegang.

>>5464352
Those are my 12oz and yeah, Ommegang is solid but Southern Tier kills with Live, Grand Arbor, Sonnet, Goat Boy, Compass. I live pretty close to the brewery so I'm sure I fanboy a bit.

COfag here, used to live in the northwestern slope region. God-tier microbrews in that area, and I'd recommend just about anything in that region. Something for nearly every palate.

>>5464362
>I live pretty close to the brewery so I'm sure I fanboy a bit.
yeah, I figured, that's why I stuck to western NY

>>5464390
>recommending a region instead of a beer or brewery
>it's in the US
you're all kinds of clueless.

>>5464344
YOU STILL HAVE A W00TSTOUT

>>5463434
I don't think it's possible to not like La Fin Du Monde

>>5462405
I've found one barley wine that i like, only one i've tried, and it really kicks my tongues ass but the after taste is so worth it.

>>5463471
Pretty much this, my entire fraternity drinks craft beer on their own time, and only buy cheap beer for parties (usually)

I've gone through the phases and have come to a conclusion... most beer besides the macro brews sucks. plain and simple. yes its cool to taste microbrews and quality ingredients but at the end of the day, I drink to catch a buzz, relax, refreshment on a hot ass day, or to get shitfaced. You cant do that with hurrdurr ale. Just give me an ice chest full of frigid miller lite or similar so I can drink it down easy.

Leave the complexity up to Scotch.

>>5463471
>hipsters don't have much money
you're using a radically different definition than the one I'm familiar with.

>>5464428
>my fraternity
fuck off.

>>5463358
The cask aged ones are supposed to release this year. I spoke with some of the guys at a tasting up in the woodlands at hubbell and hudson (god tier eggs benedict there, too). cool guys, gave me a heads up on some of the divine reserves and rumpkinator. also, as an aside, finally a cool name/tripfriend. I usually dont frequent /ck/ but you seem to have good posts, and bonuspoints for a houstonbro

>>5464439

>get shitfaced
>lite
>Americans

>>5463585
>2014
>not flying the blood stained banner

pleb

for health reasons i stopped drinking beer

but i do love me some 2 towns hard cider. the best dry cider in the north west

>that feel when we live in a time when having massive importation of beer from around the globe still isn't that feasible because it spoils quickly

>you literally still have to travel to another country to experience the best it can offer in fine drinks and food


this is a good time

>>5462221

fk yeah stage 6

skipped straight from 3 to 6 myself, craft beer can suck a lemon

American macrobrews are the second-weakest after the English, and our microbrews often push the opposite extreme and end up unbalanced. "Breakfast stouts" would be better labeled as "revolting garbage stouts", for instance.

>liking ipa's
>liking something that tastes like bitter dog piss

>2013+2
>not drinking hard alcohol like a man

favorite brewers, beers:
Weihenstephaner - Hefeweissbier
Stone Brewing Co - Double Bastard
Sam Adams Co - Marzen Oktoberfest
Avery Brewing Co - Salvation

choices made, i still know enough not to turn down an invitation to an 18 of pbr/rolling rock/bud/coors what have you

rate me /ck/

>>5463418
>i hate associating with hipsters, so i would LOVE to say i like the taste of bud light.
If you care so much about what other people like, then you are a far bigger faggot than the hipsters that you hate.

>>5462380
>80s mentality that European beer is superior
this didnt change after the 80s...

>I just want to get fucked up
>beer

lmao

no

>>5464569

>like a man
>implying grills can't enjoy liquor exclusively as well

beer is not for women, it is for the mentally challenged.

>>5464662
haha i'm such a hard drinker my dick is big too lol

>>5464670

>drinking beer
>spending an unnecessary amount of money
>consuming an unnecessary amount of empty calories
>bloating yourself unnecessarily

liquor is just better. sorry!

>my dick is big too

>implying i'm not a grill

>>5464664
this grill has a point

>>5464675
You can spend an unnecessary amount of money on liquor.

>all vodka advertised as being distilled 5 times
>if they all do it, then why advertise it like it's special
>to charge more money

Beer has more nutrition than liquor.

Some beer tastes good, too.

Girls can have dicks for dick measuring contests. And they can look just as retarded for doing it too.

>>5464704

why would i buy expensive liquor? just as much of a waste.

>more nutrition

but let's not kid ourselves, they're both ultimately piss poor for you. what you're saying is on par with calling pizza a vegetable.

and if you are drinking beer, you are going to be drinking more beer than liquor.

so grab a glass of scotch on rocks and have yourself a grilled chicken sandwich and a banana.

or grab a beer or three.

Guys I fucked up.

There is no way I can drink all of this without becoming an alcohol. My family and friends already think I am an alcohol for even owning so much.

I guess I'll drink my sorrows away.

>>5464770
You want to quit cold turkey for your family? I can take it all off your hands if you want to mail it to me ;-D

>>5464777
I'm not going to quit. I am going to persevere through it.

Fuck my family.

>>5464779
Fuck you faggot. Quit and send me your booze.

>>5464770
>Guys I fucked up.
Months or years of collection are a sudden mistake how?

>>5464782
I splurged and bought all of that in the span of 2-3 weeks.

I guess it's not a mistake as much as deliberate self-destruction.

>>5464439
If you just drink to get shitfaced why not just drink cheap vodka?

>>5464770
>>5464783
I wish I was you or your friend so I could join you on your journey of self-destruction by alcohol.

>>5464809
You can be my friend.

>>5464268
>times square

we only keep that place around as a containment area for people like you.

also "black people selling CDs" could just as easily describe any impoverished town in michigan or indiana.

LA is a giant suburb, deal with it.

>>5464826
dumbass pls
>i urge you to read a dictionary that contains the word suburb in it
>then look at the make up of los angeles
>then an hero

>>5463166
>1.Unfiltered Pilsner Urquell

Man I had that when I was at the brewery. It's great.

Too bad I've only found regular PU over here in Vienna. That's not that good, tbh.

>>5464344

I'd get wasted daily if I had that much beer at home.

>>5464770
Anon, you're making thirsty, you have such a glorious collection. Be proud !
My favourites go to Rochefort 10, St Bernardus, Mikkkellers, and Ardbeg

>>5464891
I love to make thirsty.

>>5462405

> Also between 6 and 7 people often begin trying homebrewing

Aaand after that they start their own microbrewery. Atleast I did.

>>5462221
I guess I'm a beginner. But I like light beer too. I unwind with good beer and have fun with light beer. Duh.

>>5464907

What kinds of beers do you make?

>>5464926

All kinds of top-fermenting beers.

>>5464926

All the kinds. Imperial IPA, Double IPA, American (Fuck Yeah!) IPA, Seasonal Limited Bacon IPA, and this year I'm experimenting with a Belgian IPA.

>>5464900
Making me thirsty*

>>5464935

Hah, I only brew one IPA and thats old fashioned british style IPA.

>>5464480
Very excite about rumpkinator, this is my first time hearing about it. St. Arnold is bro as fuck, I love how they don't get content with the success they've had and are always trying and making new things.

When you get a chance you've got to grab a bottle of the new Boiler Room. Save it for the hottest day when you need something refreshing and get it ice cold, it's the most refreshing summer beer I've ever had. It's got an interesting sour flavor, sort of like fresh lemons squeezed into sparkling water with the flavor of a good lager.

>>5462221
>6.Enlightenment
>>Just give me something from Central Europe, or a suitable clone if that's not possible.

OP is a total pleb.

I live in Germany and there are hundreds of beers, nearly all of which taste the exact same.
Czech beers are very good, as Belgian, but Irish and British Stout and Ale microbrews are better.

Also, people who go on about IPA drinkers are the worst. I love hoppy beers and the slight grapefruitiness some IPAs have. My preferred beers are IPAs and Stouts like Wrassler's XXXX.

>7. Guru
>>Has favorites that change depending on the season, the drinker's mood, and the situation. Likes to explore new craft and European beers but isn't above drinking shitty MillerCoors when its offered by a friend.
Get fucked. Stop trying to be an apologist for InBev and Coors. Of course people should be polite and drink whatever they're given. Lets not conflate being polite with defending pisswater.

>>5465043
>nearly all of which taste the exact same.
confirmed for clueless idiot

>>5463166
>Bitburger
Total fucking pleb detected.

Most German beers are weak as piss, but this is exceptionally bad.
Gassy, thin and fuck all taste.
>Singha
Christ.

Pilsner Urquell is good, but you sound like a ponce acting as if you've "progressed" to these beers. Bitburger and Singha are shit you drink when there's nothing else available.

>>5465049
Most German lagers taste the exact same.
Prove me wrong.

Even the Germans agree - that;s why you see Budvar Budweiser and Pilsner Urquell everywhere. Jever isn't bad, though, because it doesn't taste like a Bitburger or Krombacher clone.

>>5465043
>nearly all of which taste the exact same.

see, that's exactly what I expected from that crafty cherry chocolate coffee hoppy sour craze, unless it hit's with a sledgehammer you guys just can't taste a difference..

tldr: yeh,nah,whatever

>>5465069
That's like saying "now that you've had Steak from a Michelin star restaurant, you won't be able to taste the subtle difference between McDonald's and Burger King burgers."

Weak, man. Weak.

If your best defence of macro-brew, homogenised piss is that it's "subtle," you're grasping at straws.

Bitburger, Krombacher at al. are massive mega-brews that drown out the competition. Sure, I can session them, and I do as there is no other choice in beer gardens, and of course they're better than Budweiser or Miller, by a mile, but that's slim praise.

>>5465076
>ordering steak at a michelin star restaurant

this post is so amerifat it hurts

>>5465080
Not American, and you've made a fool of yourself as Kobe beef is better than Foie Gras.

>>5465086

did you learn about nice things from cracked.com? this is embarrassing.

>>5465095
It's obvious you've never eaten Kobe beef.

I don't read "cracked." Stop projecting; you're not having insights to other people - you're just showing us all who you are.

>>5465098

it's obvious you've got a list of "expensive things to try" and are anticipating respect because you've checked a few boxes.

>why don't the girls like me, I'm a perfect fedora'd gentleman and I have an expensive thing

reminds me of someone I read about in the news this weekend

when you grow up, you'll stop making insane nonsensical comparisons like "foie gras is better than steak"

don't even try, you're so transparent it hurts.

>>5465109
>this is what poorfags delude themselves into thinking
>poorfags settling for less
>no wonder they're still poor with that attitude

>>5465109

Reductio ad absurdum.

>It's obvious you've got a list of "expensive things to try" and are anticipating respect because you've checked a few boxes.
I'm on a fucking imageboard on the internet. I don't trumpet this shit in reality and I despise people who do. I am arguing anonymously for the fun of it.
Stop being such a serios little bitch.
>>why don't the girls like me, I'm a perfect fedora'd gentleman and I have an expensive thing
>reminds me of someone I read about in the news this weekend
Projection. Have a long hard look at yourself, mate. You seem to be incapable of discussion without throwing a shitfit and getting into "dissections" of the person you're arguing with. You're just showing us all who you really are.
>when you grow up, you'll stop making insane nonsensical comparisons like "foie gras is better than steak"
So you compare me to that guy and then go ahead and say something that sounds like it came directly from his mouth.
"When you grow up..." -- Oooo, I can feel the condescention.
Are you a supreme gentleman?
You really are a fucking pathetic person.

I tip my fedora to you, oh enlightened one. When I grow up, I'll make sure to come back and thank you for this stimulating discussion.

>>5465124

you're mad because you know it to be true.

>foie gras is better than steak

lol

>>5465109
>you're so transparent it hurts.
You seem to be giving some kind of pop-psychology analysis of a person on the internet whom you've never met and you think you're right. There's no way you can know them, therefore I can only assume all these characteristics you're talking about are related to yourself. Did that guy who shot everyone strike a nerve with you? Did you see yourself in him and are now trying to project him onto other people?

Learn to not be so hubristic and to relax.

>>5465131
You didn't even reply to my pointing out your hypocrisy.

Keep ignoring your flaws and telling everyone else what's wrong with them. You must be a nightmare to have as a partner.

>>5465031
So anyone know when they're going to do a barleywine again? The last time it was pretty good.

>>5462221
0. WTF is this bitter stinky shit with ugly vomit-like foam? Gross. Alcopop&cider instead.

>>5462221
Was "neckbeerd" too shitty of a pun to make?

>>5465289
Yeah.

>>5463029
Yeah, we had make it ourselves.

>>5463188
*tips olive*

>>5465164
Hopefully soon. As much as I love the Divine Reserve and the Icon series it always makes me sad to see a favorite go, you never know if you'll be able to ever have it again. I miss the hell out of the Saison beer, it was last years Icon gold. I went to a party where they donated some overstock kegs of the saison because they were switching over to the next Icon, great party. Everyone was completely fucking wasted because it was a 10% alcohol beer that went down as easy as sweet tea.

What stage are you /ck/?

>>5466088
6.

>>5462237
>>5462221
Fuck this list is so accurate, and I went through every single stage. Fuck.

>>5464658
this guy is a giant fag and the cock makes his brain stupid

>>5464907
any money in such a project?
always wanted to have my own business but sadly no such dosh exists and i need a sure-fire idea before taking a loan

>>5466088
a wonderful 5.
and thanks to modern comfort i am staying here

>>5466088
7

>>5462221
Fairly accurate, though of course, this is /ck/, so it has to be phrased in the most obnoxious reply-bait fashion possible.

Of course as you drink more beer the palate becomes more attuned and trad lagers and pilsners reveal themselves to be good beers.

There's nothing wrong with IPAs though, don't like them, drink something else. I don't like most of the cider about, doesn't mean I sperg out about it on the internet.

>>5464344
>Chilling beer to ~4 degrees C.

Wow.

>>5466088
a quality 7 my good sir

Just opened a can from my last six pack of Sculpin.

>>5466088

Step 9. Failed once already; boy was that embarrassing. Now I just need to wait and get my FOID card back so I can buy a shotgun and say goodbye to my head.

>>5466496
At least you have /ck/ to shit up until that day.

Central European lagers are extremely mediocre, mostly a relic of the past at this point

>>5466510
>a relic of the past
As opposed to a relic of the future?

It's cute when simple-minded people attempt to sound intelligent.

>>5464658
It was probably the mid 90s when american beer finally retook the top spot. Now its not even close, but luckily for us all europe is starting to catch on. Its a shame when people cling to tradition over quality

>>5466518
>American beer is better because IPA craze
lol no

Name 5 American beers from the mid-90s that exemplify American superiority.

>>5466518
>mid 90s when american beer
no.

>>5466523
IPA is part of the picture, but its only a small fraction of why america makes great beer

>>5466518
>It was probably the mid 90s
Which beers are you thinking of exactly?

>>5466527
Quite being so vague and provide examples and a detailed explanation.

>>5466504

We'll always have that/

>>5466530
I don't know off the top of my head exactly what year various beers came to the market, and its silly to expect me to.

The mid 90s was when the first good american breweries first started becoming successful and more people started jumping on the good beer bandwagon. Meanwhile european beer had been stagnant for quite a long time

>>5466542
>more people
You mean more Americans. Some of us have been drinking good beer for centuries.

>>5466542
>its silly to expect me to.
Not really, you made quite the bold statement yet can't even back it up with anecdotal evidence.

I bet you weren't even drinking beer in the 90s.

Reminder that the reinheitsgebot was never about beer quality, and ended up making beer shittier and killing innovation all in order to keep the price of bread low leading to almost every german beer being nearly the same mediocre recipe

>>5466561
>I bet you weren't even drinking beer in the 90s
I bet less than 1% of 4chan was, seems like a real safe bet
Just because craft beer wasn't as popular then and you didn't buy it doesn't mean it wasn't being made in america

>>5462221
>>5462237
Someone sat down and wrote this out. Wow

>>5466572
...yet you can't name any of these beers that catapulted American Beer (TM) to the top.

>>5466563
Yeah, they should add more rice, corn, and concentrated flavors to their beer.

>>5466578
corn can be used pretty effectively, also you forget about rye and wheat, the 2 grains the law was originally designed to exclude

>>5466578
>not liking lambics, rye beers or hefewiezen
>just because bud light uses rice means everything besides barley is bad

Please stop

>>5466555
This nigga some kind of vampire or something.

>>5466591
We consider that term derogatory. Check ur mortality.

>>5466575
a large portion of what are now the most successful craft breweries existed in the 90s
Like Sierra Nevada, Goose Island, Sam Adams, New Belgium, Lagunitas, New Glarus, Bells etc

Sure these guys didn't have as wide a lineup as they do now, but its not like passing europe was that tough

>>5466555
>Some of us have been drinking good beer for centuries.
Very, very few of you. Until recently it was damn tough to consistently find legitimately good beer outside belgium

>>5466542
The craft brewing movement was a direct result of the change to the law that made homebrewing of beer legal. That was in 1978. Soon after, avid homebrewers started taking their favorite recipes commercial. It was easy to get started as large commercial brewers would rent out their facilities for small batch brewing of customer recipes. I know a guy who worked for Pete's Wicked Ale in the mid-80s by which time the craft brewing movement was exploding.

>>5466606
this is plain ignorant, some people straight up do not like belgian yeast strains

>>5466602
you act like we didn't have thousands of breweries making all kinds of beer before prohibition

>>5466729
>some people straight up do not like belgian yeast strains
That doesn't change the fact that Belgium is the only region in europe that makes great beer

>>5466735
You're a fucking imbecile

>>5466735
>implying anyone except ignorant craft brew babbies want to drink that rotten band aid fruit fly bait

>>5466602
>Like Sierra Nevada, Goose Island, Sam Adams,
weren't making anything better than OK in the mid 90s

>>5466743
I doubt you even were of age in the 90s

their main stream beers taste the same then as they do now

>>5466735
>Belgium is the only region in europe that makes great beer
That's just wrong though.

>>5466729
>you act like we didn't have thousands of breweries making all kinds of beer before prohibition
I don't think I implied that at all. Near the turn of the 20th century america quite possibly made the best beer in the world, which makes a lot of sense as america was mostly settled by the biggest beer drinking and producing societies in europe. Prohibition and nationalization of markets really killed this great culture outside of the upper midwest and new england. Luckily it has recovered to an all time high after the all time low barren lite beer wasteland of the early 80s

>>5466745
>I doubt you even were of age in the 90s
whatever, I was still drinking
>their main stream beers taste the same then as they do now
yeah, and they're only OK.

>>5466743
but what about all of the other breweries I mentioned?

>>5466746
care to offer a rebuttal?

>>5466751
>yeah, and they're only OK.
Still good enough to earn america the top spot

>>5466752
>New Belgium
Was good, but not better than actual Belgian beers.
>Lagunitas
I'd put that in only OK
>New Glarus, Bells
can't remember. Not sure I even had New Glarus in the 90s, definitely not before 98 or so.

>>5466757
>earning the top spot without even a handful of wonderful beers.

Got a couple Boatswains stouts for $2 each from trader joes. 7% on the cheap is kind of impressive.

Too bad I can't get ahold of Left Hand Milk Stout anymore in Iowa or Nebraska.

>>5466766
>is from england
>beer culture replaced by chav culture

I dont think english cunts can talk about what is good and what isn't, they're fucked in the head

>>5466794
>is from England
I'm from Texas, it's like the opposite.

>>5466800
You are from texas and you haven't had enough American beers to realize we're easily the best beer country? ok, sure thing faggot

>>5466802
hes a southerner, what do you expect?

>>5466807
I'm from the south as well, but that doesn't mean I'm retarded. You should have said "he's from texas"

>>5466809
>You should have said "he's from texas"
East texas is the south culturally,
South Texas is mexico, North Texas is the great plains, and west texas is a god forsaken desert not suitable for human habitation

>>5466814
No, east texas is actual texas, home of the retards of the cities dallas, ft. worth, and houston. Culturally, it's fat-ass retard "I'm from texas, where everything is bigger but our brains" texas

>>5466802
>You are from texas and you haven't had enough American beers to realize we're easily the best beer country?
we are now, but there is no way the turnover was before 2000. I think 2002-07

>>5466807
>southerner
>texas
fuck you.

>tfw tried many different types of beers and still think they all taste the same, shit
>tfw just order coctail drinks or hard whiskey if i want a buzz

meh. i don't drink very often anyways.

>>5466623
>Pete's wicked
Holy shit I forgot that stuff existed

>tfw I'm danish
>I live in an abudance of central, northern, and north-western beer
>I can have my kilkenny, my belgian trappist, my danish stout, and my czech pilsner all at my local watering hole

Stay dry plebs, stay dry

>>5467429
ugh... typo
>>I live in an abudance of central, northern, and north-western european beer

>>5467429
>tfw dansker

Hvorfor drikke andet end Mikkeller og det som hans venner kan byde på?

Alt det ol jeg drikker, kober jeg hos Mikkeller & Friends Bar & Bottleshop.

>>5465043
Just walk into your fucking Trinkgut then and pick out something that isn't Krombacher, Warsteiner, Bitburger, KöPi or whatever.

I hate it too when niggers around me disregard any non-German beer too but that doesn't mean there are no good beers around.
When's the last time you had a nice Alt?
If the only thing you buy is Pils from the giant breweries that is available everywhere, dont complain

>>5467438
I prefer other danish brands. Semper Ardens, Skagen Bryghus, Skovlyst bryghus, Refsvindinge - now they make good beer

IMO Mikeller is waaaaaaay too hipster in its approach. I mean, you can buy a fucking crate with a pair of shoes and a bottle of beer in it.

I want places that make beer to make beer - not make beer to HOMG-lookitme-I AM A SPECIAL FUCKING SNOWFLAKE

just no

>>5467462
But that is not the vibe of mikkeller at all. It's beer before anything else.

I drink PBR and Olde E (I'm poor)

How pleb am I?

>>5467538
You are an 8/10.

>>5467542
8/10 ham and egger or 8/10 cool guy?

>>5467538
Nothing wrong with OE.

>>5464662
There is no problem with getting fucked up on beer unless you are a faggot can't drink.

>>5464675
It's very much cheaper to get drunk on beer in my country, even expensive beer is more economical than cheap spirits.

>>5462221
>>5462237
>tfw nearest to guru but never been any of the other stages

>>5462308
I'd love to try out ancient beer, see how different it is to today

>implying that old beer wouldn't ocntain fecal matter, uine, semen, mucous, spit
>implying that people cared about food safety before modern times

>>5463166
Singha is okay in my opinion.

I prefer a Qüöllfrisch Naturtrüb any day though.

>tfw I have been at enlightenment since I was 10, but since I don't care to spend enough for good beer I always just drink liquor instead
Visiting germany really messed with my tastes

>>5467689
>I'd love to try out ancient beer, see how different it is to today
Dogfish head has a whole line of revived ancient ales from historic recipe finds, whether brews or barleywine recipes in their "rarities" collection. I like a couple of them very much (Chateau Jiahu, Sah'tea, King Midas) , and the rest are kind of do-once, kind of opposing flavors kinds of recipes (Theobroma), though they work with food pairings, all of them. There's got to be at least 25 recipes they have done at least once, but you'll find that your local seller might only have 1-5 at a time. Look around. A lot of them are recommended for cellaring and saving for later..

reminder that >>5462380
>>5462405
Is way more accurate than the OP's angry rant

>>5467777
>butthurt Americans trying to save their beer pride

>>5467781
The OP said fucking central european beer is the best. Its obviously not a serious post, thats not even the best beer region in europe, and not even close to what is readily available in america

>>5467787
I agree, I just think beer elitism per region is stupid. Talk brands and beers, not geography.

Hell, one of the reasons why beer is so cool is because there are a lot of local breweries that probably make alright beer, and it's nice to be able to share those experiences with people across the world.

>>5462308
>I wish it was possible to buy beer that doesn't contain fecal matter, urine, semen, mucous or spit.

Are you shitting me? People have been brewing for thousands of years, but have only understood the biological process for about 200 years. Brewing mash used to be open to the elements and allow whatever the hell was in the air to settle into the beer. A little bit of yeast would find its way in and begin fermentation. The ancients used to chalk it up to a miracle of god

>>5462237
ayyyyy

>>5467555
egg

>>5467777

Reminder that quads are a sign of samefagging

>live in Bavaria
>don't even like beer
>always order a helles anyway