/ck/ - Food & Cooking

there are just way too many people at that table.

>>5400763
I think the biggest joke is that the word pretentious is pretentious.

>>5400763
salad fork... other fork...
soup spoon... other spoon...
steak knife..butter knife...
water glass... wine glass... booze glass...

its pretty elegant to not mix any of your tastes. are you gonna complain about their super tiny portions next?

just go to McD dude, youll like it more over there.

>>5400763
that pleb b&b placement and lack of votives & chargers... Its like you're not even trying

Full view of the room
>no natural light
>tables cluttered too close together
>looks more like a torture chamber than a fine dining experience

>>5400773
You DON'T NEED 2 forks... You DON'T NEED 2 spoons ..

a steak knife AND a bitter knife I could understand, but this are 2 butterknives which YOU DON'T FUCKING NEED.

And yes, I wanted to mention portion sizes, but they won't be served until tonight and I didn't have them in the pic I took

>>5400763
Looks like some sort of cooperate event, over crowding and trying to look fancy while serving food that is mediocre is to be expected.

To be honest, if you want to do fine dining, then account for the atmosphere - from the amount of space per person on each table to the environment and lighting.

If you want to host some event where everyone's all bunched up like that, removing the stupid amount of glasses would already go a long way. Though I suspect that the glasses not use (after you've selected the one you're drinking based on which drink you want) will be removed to at least free up some space.

>>5400800

i can't argue with the fact that your table looks cluttered and unpleasant to sit in but i presume you're at an event or something which is never as nice/intimate as a private meal

either that or you're in a seriously badly designed restaurant

>>5400800
why would you want to eat your salad, main and dessert with the same fork
or
eat soup and stir your coffee with the same spoon
or drink water/red wine/ white wine out of the same glass

or course no one is forcing you to go to these places. I dont like curry so I just dont go to curry houses instead of bitching about it

>>5400769
I don't think you think it means what it really means.

there's too many people at that table. that has nothing to do with table setting etiquette.

what you're seeing is not even full service table setting because it's lacking a salad fork, soup spoon, butter knife, soup bowl. it's most likely a banquet where they'll bring those items with those platters as people have pre-ordered via RSVP.

the placement of two wine glasses indicates they intend to serve fish which is why i said they have no salad fork--it is a fish fork--and that they have no butter knife as that is a service/table knife with a fish knife next to it.

you may convince yourself that being crude is "cool" but you won't convince anyone who knows better. you're being very silly.

>>5400763
What's disgusting is you thinking it's okay to use the same fork and knife for every course and dish brought to the table. Nice way to muddle all your flavors together and taint your palate. Go back to your trailer, Jethro.

>>5401780
this

>on /ck/
>whining about things being pretentious

It's all clay. People like to dress it up but it's all clay.

>>5400785
>Implying THIS is fine dining.
4/10 I wasn't happy with that

>>5400800

you don't NEED to be complaining about this on 4chan

but you do anyway

>>5400773
>wine glass... booze glass...
wait, what?

>>5400826
why does it have to all be out at once? why cant you bring out my god damn desert fork WITH MY FUCKING DESERT?!

>>5400763
This isn't fine dinning at all, way too many people at the table, Michelin inspectors would laugh at you.

The concept of fine dinning is simple: you don't have to worry about anything. If you have several set of spoons, knives and all it's only because you won't have to use the same ones of different course. They bring you a new plate every course anyway, several glasses if so you can have water, wine and a disgestive at the same time without cleaning a glass. It's practical.

>>5402688
dude
calm down

go for a walk in nature

stop getting so mad about forks

>>5402688

see

>>5401841

a lot of things don't necessarily make sense, like the fact that you are still ranting about this

>>5400763
I agree, you only need 1 knife and 1 fork (not even a spoon), if you really dont want to mix your food just wipe the fork on your trouser leg or something after each plate.

>>5402723
> Rednecks... rednecks everywhere
You should sing the national anthem when wiping the forks on your clothes

What's wrong with 3 glasses? One for for red wine, one for white, one for water.

They usually remove one of the wine glasses depending on which wine you pick.

Two sets of cutlery isn't even that much.

>>5400767

That is a problem.

>>5402706
This. OP pic is a banquet set up for some kind of business or charity event.

As for fine dining being pretentious, remember the kind of people who can afford to dine this way are generally the upper classes. As a result fine dining maintains many bourgeois conceits because that's what the the majority of patrons have come to expect. These conceits seems pretentious to those not in that class, but to those who are they're just part of dining out.

>>5403095
The people who dine at tables with places set so closely together aren't the upper class. They're middle and upper-middle class people thinking they're more sophisticated and wealthier than they are.

>>5400800
>You DON'T NEED 2 forks... You DON'T NEED 2 spoons ..
you dont need it but its easier to match the size of the portion with the size of the cutlery...

>>5403193
>They're middle and upper-middle class people thinking they're more sophisticated and wealthier than they are.
Like I said, some kind of charity or business event. It's an attempt to ape the upper class in hopes of projecting a classy image. But it's still copying the bourgeois conceits found in fine dining. You see the same thing when the middle class attempts to pu8ll off a "formal" event. In these cases it actually is pretentious, because people are acting in a manner not familiar to them in order to project an air of a higher station.

But in fine dining it's generally not pretentious, because most of the clientele are people for whom the bourgeois conceits of multiple utensils, plates, glasses and courses along with service to match are not unusual.

check out melisse of Santa Monica. you should bring at least $300 per person for dinner, at least. but you get what you pay for and they got people living in the mountains looking for mushrooms. people ocean dive for abalone, etc just for that restaurant

>>5400763
American body size was not considered when the tables were set

>>5403344
I've been there. It was alright. At the same price point providence is much better

>>5400826
Like this dumb nigger ain't ever heard of wiping your utensils off on a napkin.

>>5403298
>the bourgeois conceits of multiple utensils

>>5403381
Kek

>>5403381
It sounds like a dig at Americans but goddamnit it's fucking true.

>had option to fly first class
>nah it's only a 5 hour flight, take business class instead save my department some money
>wedged in between a large black woman and rotund white guy for 5 hours

Fuck you.