/ck/ - Food & Cooking

You don't take babbys to nice restaurants and shit restaurants aren't to big on bending over backwards for customers.

In that case, I wouldn't mind it. But I once had some lady handing me a glass of babyfood, then told me to heat it up for her, and got mad because I didn't know jack shit about babyfood.

>>5177515
No, it's not wrong. And its not a big deal. The waiter might've thought that you were gonna use the hot water to "sterilize" your utensils. We've gotten that a handful of times where I work.

the hot water we give you isn't hot enough to kill anything, and if you distrust the utensils which never touch raw food in the first place that much, why eat here in the first place?

>>5177534
He's not using the water to kill bacteria, he's using it to heat a baby bottle

>>5177546
No I know that, but I'd said the WAITER might've thought that.

>>5177546
are you fucking retarded? re-read the post you gimp

You shouldn't be bringing your failed abortions to restaurants period. The world does not exist to revolve around your children.

>>5177524
>>5177617
Just out of curiousity, have you guys had a restaurant experience where a baby has disturbed you? Whenever I've seen a baby in a restaurant, they usually are just quiet and/or asleep.

>>5177630
Probably 4/5 visits. Children under 13 or so are just as bad or even worse.

In general, if something is stupid, cries a lot, shits itself and is generally loud or obnoxious whether it be a baby or drunk teenage girl, it shouldn't be in a restaurant.

>>5177617
Waiters exist to serve diners. Deal with it

>>5177637
Well, you qualify for three out of four, (I wouldn't know about the shitting), so can we ban you from restaurants?

>>5177664
Is a baby ordering food? No.

Other customers shouldn't have to have their experience ruined because of self-absorbed assholes who think that their baby is everybody else's problem.

>>5177666
>Somebody disagrees with me, where's my ad hominem?

The waiter probably wants your wife to be breastfeeding, which is far healthier for the baby.

Also, boobies

>>5177670
>self absorbed
Hello pot, meet kettle.

>>5177674
>I can't think of a proper response

>>5177670
Do you really think you're making a case for keeping children out of restaurants? No. No one takes seriously the opinions of a low brow guttersnipe. If you want people to take you seriously, stop being such an insufferable prick.

Taking your child out to dinner under the age of 5 is rude, and unfair to your children, let alone all the other asswipes around you.

You can't expect a child that young to behave themselves in that particular situation, it's a horrible expectation that you're forcing on a child who isn't ready for it.

>>5177630
Honestly? I've never once dealt with a crying baby on a plane, in a restaurant or anywhere else in public. Most babies seem pretty quiet.
And let me be clear: I am no fan of infants. I don't like babies. I may go as far as to say I hate them, so if they're making a fuss, rest assured knowing that I'd notice and be annoyed. It's just never actually happened.
Ambulatory, wandering loinfruit and their inattentive handlers, on the other hand, are awful and should be disallowed from all public places until they're at least tweens. So many of these spoiled fucks throw tantrums in stores, cinemas, restaurants, malls etc. It's horrid.

>>5177678
Once again, you try and make an actual case that isn't resorting to insults and assumptions? Thanks.

I was at a restaurant where there wasn't enough room at this one family's booth for the baby to sit, so they stacked 2 booster seats on top of each other (the waiter helped them) and the chairs tipped. The baby hit it's head on the edge of the table on the way down

>>5177515
It's only wrong if you use formula instead of breastmilk.

>>5177687
I'm not the one trying to make a case, faggot. YOU are. I'm simply pointing out that you're an idiot whom no one is going to listen to because you can't behave rationally.

>>5177702
>Call poster out on doing nothing but insulting somebody making a legitimate case
>Resorts to more insults

Yes, I'm clearly the one who is behaving irrationally.

>>5177515
>We tip well so I don't see the problem.

That's where you went wrong. Tipping has no effect on the quality of serivce.

>>5177684
this
>>5177689
oh jesus

>>5177689
I'd be that one guy laughing his ass off while everybody looks at me in disgust.

The world is changing. The higher classes are breeding less.
Bringing babies to nice restaurants is bad form.

>>5177703
Now you're just outting yourself as troll bait.

>>5177726
lolitrolu

>>5177673
This.

>>5177689
>>5177689
Oh my sides!
I can almost see the little babbys pudgy arms slowly flailing!

>>5177683
My 6 month old sleeps most of the time we are out. He could care less where he is and other diners wouldn't know he was there except for car seat.

>>5177670
My baby isn't other diners problem and never said it was. Asking for a pint glass of hot water is fine and falls within the wait staff's responsibility imo.

>>5177794
Assuming this is truthful, you're unlike most parents who lug them around everywhere.

>>5177802
Using the thread to make a point, not attacking this specific example/.

>>5177515
not wrong at all

would they prefer you didn't feed the baby and he started screaming because he was hungry?

waiter was either a dumbass or doesn't have children/younger siblings (or both)

>>5177881
>would they prefer you didn't feed the baby and he started screaming because he was hungry?

They'd prefer the patrons were responsible parents who didn't bring a baby prone to crying to restaurants.

>>5177892
>wanting to have a family meal together means they are not responsible parents

Okay.


protip: not everyone can always get a babysitter or dump their children on others, and believe it or not some people ENJOY spending time with their children

I hope you don't have any.

>>5177897
I'm sure other people enjoy being forced to spend time with your screaming children.

>>5177906
>implying my children make noise or misbehave in public

They don't misbehave as they are well parented and disciplined. Unfortunately I cannot say the same for you.

>>5177916
Did you not even read the post I replied to?

Good job once again not resorting to insults; it would make you look rather immature if you couldn't disagree with somebody without personally attacking them.

>>5177922
Yes, as I made that post.

>>5177529
In this case, you heat that shit until it's hotter than the surface of the sun. Fuck that bitch and her baby.

>>5177926
Careful, this is 4chan, somebody might take that "fuck the baby" bit literally.

Seeing a family with a small child seated near me in a restaurant is enough to ruin my meal.
Who knows when the kid is going to start acting up? It's like a dark cloud. A sword of damocles hanging over the whole evening.

Isn't it against most health ordinances to bring foreign foodstuffs into a restaurant for the purpose of consumption?

>>5177937
I agree and what people don't realize is a crying baby is biologically wired to annoy people so they don't neglect their needs.

As selfish as the standard response "Just ignore it" is, it contradicts human nature.

If a maitre d tries to seat me near children, I say half jokingly "you're not going to seat me in the family section are you?"
This usually works. Love to see the looks on proud parent's faces.

I don't understand the people who get annoyed by just seeing a baby. I do fucking hate the ones that cry and the parents do nothing though.

As long as the baby is behaving I don't care. Sometimes full grown adults can be loud obnoxious assholes while I am trying to eat but I don't cringe everytime I see another person sitting across from me.

>>5177515

>taking baby to restaurant

you've already ruined everyone's evening

I've posted numerous times about this, as I'm an oldfag here (and also a parent of a teenager), so I'm not going to give a lengthy response. But for anyone out there who is a parent of a small child or infant, or anyone who is planning on being a parent, here's my tried and true tested advice.
>newborn - 3 months : perfect for taking out. They sleep pretty much through everything and cause no fuss. Disclaimer, if your child has colic, stay the fuck out of the public.
>3 months - 4 years: DO NOT take your child to any restaurant. It will only make you and everyone else miserable. BUT (this is the important part) while you are staying in, TEACH YOUR CHILD TABLE MANNERS. Yup, allcaps for that. Start from the first time you put them in the high chair how to behave at the table. You don't have to be mean about it, you can have fun, but this is IMPORTANT.
>4 years and up: Take them with you, take them to nice places, and get them comfortable with ordering food in fine restaurants without it being a big deal. If they have any sort of tantrum at all, you take them outside to the parking lot (one of you) and the other person pays the check and you leave. But unless your child is a heathen that shouldn't have to happen.
>I suggest all new parents buy some etiquette books and read them not only to yourself, but also your child. This will make for a better world for everyone.

>>5177973
Regarding 4 years and up, I assume you mean ONLY if the child is actually well-behaved.

Taking a child who's the manifestation of Satan's asshole to restaurants to TEACH them table manners is a horrible idea.

>>5177981
Yes, the point is to teach you children table manner at home BEFORE you take them out to restaurants.

>>5177986
Okay, fair enough.

>>5177986
>>5177986
I honestly would rather you left them at home.
Just get a sitter. There is no good reason to bring a child to an upscale restaurant.
Rule of thumb : if there is no ballpit your kid is not welcome.

>>5178016
Not every place with table service is upscale, you know. OP didn't imply upscale. A lot of other posters ITT jumped to your same conclusion (though using words other than 'upscale').
There are tonnes of table-service restaurants that are neither upscale nor poo-tier chain dining.

>>5178016
Then you're just raising a whole generation of monkeys, is that what you want? Or do you want the younger generation (who has to take care of you in your old age), to be a bunch of fuckwit shut-ins with no manners? You don't understand the rippling effects of careless parenting and the apathy of the childless.

>>5178028
That is called family dinning. If the word family is anywhere in the description then by all means you are welcome.
If it is not then please refrain from bringing the slobberlings.

>>5178032
It will be immigrants taking care of me in my old age not your feckless offspring.

>>5178049
So, you're just stupid, then. Manners aren't relegated to American whites. Everyone should have manners. Also, good luck with that.

>>5178054
Those manners are learned at home and at Dennys.

>>5178061
Do you even read posts? Or do you just shitfag everywhere?

>>5178054
American whites (especially if you are one) clearly have no manners at all.

>>5178067
LOL, no. I've been around the world, my friend, and I've seen countless people, of many backgrounds and ethnicity, with zero to horrifying manners. But nice try.

>>5178065
What are your reasoned objections to this post?

>>5178070
So since you have met foreigners who behave worse than you, you imagine yourself to be well mannered?

>>5177689
>so they stacked 2 booster seats on top of each other (the waiter helped them) and the chairs tipped. The baby hit it's head on the edge of the table on the way down


oh god what, its funny but oh my god why did no-one stop this

>>5178067
a lot of things about america/americans annoy me, but in terms of manners I think they're pretty much ahead of the game

>>5177684

>on a three hour flight
>next to a Polish man with his sleeping baby
>before take off he wakes his baby up
>to feed it a whole bottle of milk

I don't fancy myself a psychic but I wish I'd have stopped him right then and there; what was about to happen was obvious

>plane starts moving
>baby uncomfortable
>plane starts roaring
>baby screaming
>plane takes off
>baby vomiting everywhere as dad tries to catch the puke with his cupped hands
>lights flickering, plane ascending, chaos

>baby puking fucking everywhere and screaming for the next three hours

Don't take your little bundle of joy to situations where it wouldn't be acceptable to have an alarm clock that keeps going off and shitting itself.

>>5178106
Don't even get me started on air travel.
Fat people should be made to buy 2 seats or we should all pay by the pound.
There should be "no family allowed" flights available.

>>5178067
>Minorities (excluding younger Asians)
>Having any manners

Good one.

>>5178126
>>5178067

nobody has any fucking manners anymore


>nobody lines up anymore
>everyone is pushy
>people talk on the phone loudly in trains/restaurants/the fucking movies
>on and on
society has crumbled

>>5177630
>have you guys had a restaurant experience where a baby has disturbed you?
You're damn right I have. Although most of the time it's not babies, it's kids ages 3-5. That's the terrible age right there.
If they don't get what they want?
>they scream
If they get bored?
>they scream
If they get tired?
>they scream
If they want to scream?
>they scream

And ages 3-5 is a good age to leave home with a babysitter. But noooooo, let's fucking bring them with us and ruin everyone else's meals.

If I had a nickel for everytime I've asked to be moved due to a child, I could open my own restaurant.

>>5178121
>"no family allowed" flights
Aw man,I'd pay extra money for this.

>>5177916

>my children don't misbehave.

okay.

Ok op just to sum up so we are all clear on this.
>if you are just a couple asking for hot water then no problem. The waiter will bring it.
> bring a baby to a restaurant better be prepared for substandard service as you are violating the social contract.

>>5177916
>They don't misbehave

>said every parent ever about their asshole kid

>>5178160
Amen to that. They get so used to their loud voices they can't even tell when they are ruining the atmosphere.

>>5177515

I find such things offensive. Babies and such.

I live downtown of a huge city, in a well-defined and identified gay village, and still, some people come with their fucking kids.

I think it's taunting, and insulting. Complete lack of respect.

I also think that you should remember the times you took your date out at a restaurant, or the time you were talking to your girlfriend about something regarding nuclear physics and some fucking baby started crying and throwing shit everywhere in the restaurant, ruining 100 people's dinner, because you, and your wife, would like to go back to a time when you could do such things.

next time a waiter gets all annoyed about that, have your wife whip out her tit and start breastfeeding instead.

>>5178288
It's a good thing you stay at home posting on /ck/ then.

>>5177515
I went to a fast food mexi place (Baja Fresh) - with a schizo ex gf of mine... and i SWEAR she changed the baby on the table... i lost my shit... how can anyone think that is okay

>>5178288

I don't bring my children to places where I bring my "date". Sorry that you eat at Applebee's where you expect some kind of 3 star experience. Sounds sad

>>5178346
Are you cheating on your spouse?

>>5177515
If it's a place where kids are accepted in the first place, I don't see that as an unreasonable request.

Maybe if they didn't have an easy way to make hot water (i.e. they don't serve hot tea or something, and have to boil it specifically for you).

>>5177617
You shouldn't be going to restaurants at all if you can't handle the existence of other patrons that might disturb you.

The vast majority of people worldwide (something like 85%) will have children at some point in their lives. It's fine if some restaurants want to ban children, but to expect to never see children at a restaurant is just stupid. Most people have kids, so most restaurants will cater to families. The world doesn't exist to revolve around your desire not to be around children.

>>5178404
>The world doesn't exist to revolve around your desire not to be around children.

It should though.

>>5178429
You sound like a bitter snowflake.

>>5178429
Well, it's never going to, so get used to it.

>>5178404
You are living in the 90s

>>5178438
No, it's 2014. And most people still have kids.

>>5178448
Depends on where you live I guess.
I was just in the Midwest on business.
Two bloody weeks.
Kids at just about every restaurant I went to.
Manhattan, not so much.

>>5177515
I got about halfway through this thread watching people spout self righteous angst about how they hate when children ruin their good time at a restaurant and all I can think is how most of these people aren't near as observant as they think. There are almost ALWAYS children in any given restaurant at any given time - the vast majority of them are going to be quiet, eating like a normal (albeit small and messy) person or sleeping, if they're small enough.

If you pay any attention it's actually very rare that a child is tantruming and causing a commotion that will bother people (this is saying nothing about kids who are allowed to run around screaming, unsupervised - THAT'S bad parenting). It's unlikely you even notice most of the kids around you. But if it's just the mere presence of children that aggravates you so severely, why even go out in public at all?

Look it's clear we can't convince you breeders the impact you have, just please do not bring your children to upscale places.
That is all we are asking here.

>>5178525
Be honest, you don't go to "upscale places" at all, do you?

>>5178525
No, you're asking to never be bothered by a child while out in public, and that is unreasonable. You no doubt have personal habits that I find just as annoying as you find children. The difference is that I understand the world doesn't revolve around me, and that going out in public involves interacting with other human beings, some of whom are children, and nearly all of whom will do something that irritates me at some point.

I am trying to be nice, why must you be so rude?

>>5178539
>>5178539
I am only asking that you keep them out of nice restaurants. Not all public places.
Also movies and theater.

>>5178549
>I am only asking that you keep them out of nice restaurants. Not all public places.

If the restaurant allows kids, why shouldn't I bring them?

>Also movies and theater.

Unreasonable.

>>5177694
THIS. Op, the waiter probably gave you the stink-eye for bottle feeding. He assumed that the baby was being fed formula.

>>5178557
As stated earlier. You and your entire family are more than welcome at family dining establishments.

>>5178573
actually they're welcome at whatever establishment will have them. you just don't like that.

>>5178579
Lol I can't believe people are this self absorbed.

>>5178582
how are they self absorbed? because they want to do the exact same thing you do?

i fucking hate kids and you still baffle me.

Allowed and welcome are two different things anon.
If you think the maitre d is not groaning inside when he sees your brood approaching, you are fooling yourself.

>>5178588
maybe he should find a different job if he can't deal with all types of customers?

>get job in food service industry
>annoyed when certain patrons enter

maybe we should ban black people from restaurants as well since they annoy certain customers.

>>5178590
Bro people on 4chan will agree with your second statement

Then the sarcasm is lost. I agree with everything else tho

>>5178616
>Bro people on 4chan will agree with your second statement
/ck/ is generally slightly more civilized. if i posted that on /b/, i'd have 20 replies of "FUCK OFF NIGGER" by now.

Are you really the type of person who would take their baby to the theater?

>>5178573
My family is welcome at whatever restaurant will have us. I completely support a restaurant's right to ban kids if they want to. You won't hear me say a word about it.

But if the restaurant does not ban kids, then don't bitch if I bring them there.

Tolerated maybe. Welcome? Not always

>>5178680

I really couldn't care less about that distinction.

That is becoming clear anon.

Part of the problem is that their voices are so shrill that even when they are not acting out you can hear them across the restaurant.

My kid makes a huge mess. And if the waitress gives me attitude I don't tip. F that

According to my parents, I was a quiet child with decent manners. I hope that is the truth, as I absolutely hate sitting next to children in restaurants. They tend to emanate shrill little voices and the odor of half-assed hygiene in the best of situations.

It's a general sentiment of mine that children should be more afraid of their parents these days. There should be definite and harsh consequences for acting out. Parents who want to raise free-spirited children are the worst.

>>5179865
>It's a general sentiment of mine that children should be more afraid of their parents these days. There should be definite and harsh consequences for acting out.

It's obvious that you really don't know anything about raising kids. Children, even the well-behaved ones, occasionally flip their shit. Punishing it harshly won't make it stop, because they haven't developed the impulse control that adults have.

Parents shouldn't ignore it, but you're hopelessly naive if you think that punishing them more severely is going to put a stop to it.

>>5177515
Dont take babby to restaurant
Get a babby sitter

>>5180047
It worked for kids in the 60's.

>>5180063
No it didn't. That's simply people looking at the past through rose colored glasses and saying "Well when I was a kid I knew to mind my manners and obey my parents".

>>5180060
Okay, I have a legitimate question here. If children are never exposed to public situations, how do they learn the proper ways of dealing with them?

How can you teach your child what's appropriate in a restaurant and what isn't if you never take them to a restaurant?

>>5180083

I think the old man here
>>5177973
describes it best. Do all that shit at home. Make a game out of it or something, roleplaying and everything. Maybe that helps

Dont take your babby to a titty bar, man

>>5177794
>Could care less
>Could

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=om7O0MFkmpw

For me going out to a nice restaurant is a big deal. By the time I get there I have studied the menu and know exactly what apps , drinks, entre and dessert I am getting. I savor every bite and dinner conversation is kept mostly to the downtime to the extent that my dinner partner will allow.
Having a child nearby nearly always ruins my evening.

ITT OP ax if it's wrong to feed baby at restaurant.
Everyone says keep baby out.
OP just gets mad and says we are not listening.

>>5177664
>Waiters exist to serve diners. Deal with it
This.

Babies can go to most restaurants, provided the parents have class and a clue. The moment a baby is fussy or disturbing people, one parent gets up, and goes for a walk. Bam, calmed, or else it aint happening, and the other spouse calmly gets a check/leftovers packed, and meets the baby and other parent at the car. Big deal. The more a baby is socialized and can be calmed/soothed/quieted, the more the baby recovers quickly and becomes a baby you can take almost anywhere, and later a child who behaves himself. There might be two, maybe three, phases in childhood that parents have to dine at home, or when a child is getting sick. But there is no rule about no babies, just no unclassy people.

>>5177963
>If a maitre d tries to seat me near children, I say half jokingly "you're not going to seat me in the family section are you?"
Nice way to handle it.

As a person with a hearing loss (and elderly family members too), it's kind of hard to enjoy a meal's conversation if it's loud in a restaurant. Overlapping sounds are murder on the hearing disabled. Loud music, a big shoulting table party, someone crying, they really do suck the enjoyment out of a good time, as you concentrate so much effort into catching what people say. It's not hating babies, it's just a personal need. And, I'm sure I'm not the only person. When I dine with more than 2 companions, I purposely pick an outside table, or a more quiet restaurant, more elegant/fancy, or known to be quiet, like most thai, for instance.

That said, I've rarely encountered a baby on a flight that annoyed me. If anything, I too easily empathize with the sinus-ear squeeze pain they must be crying about. Been there, done that. In restaurants, they can be quite entertaining to watch, and I'm sure a lot of diners enjoy watching them too. To each their own. I mind them most in church, why? Because there is a lovely glassed in baby room for them to be in, where others aren't disturbed. Go sit near it, and move into it when the time comes. Don't hesitate. You have no right to interfere with other people listening. Same for a movie theatre. Is it an action movie with surround sound? If I don't see headphones on your baby, and you aren't on an aisle seat, I can reasonably predict you should have gotten a babysitter and won't make it through the movie. That's painful to babies.

>>5181455
Just keep it to family dining and I am OK with it.

There shouldn't be a baby in a restaurant and asking for some hot water to take back home to your baby is a bit weird.

>>5177524
I read an article in wine magazine about taking 3 year olds out to nice restaurants. Apparently a good waitstaff will keep the child complacent and quite.

Beware though, if the child orders off menu, the prices can be quite high.

Also please be sure to tip appropriately, they are putting in extra effort.

>>5178121
Outside of white person land, you can plane tickets for smoking flights. There are less children on smoking flights, and those that are there are beaten into submission by their non white parents.

>>5181490
This reminds me of my sister's wedding reception dinner. It was loud and crowded, and my grandfather is hard of hearing/suffers from alzheimers.

One of the waiters ended up setting up a new table for him outside the restaurant where he could eat in relative peace

>>5177515
>rude waiter
>we tip well

you are whats wrong with the system.

>>5181515
>Also please be sure to tip appropriately, they are putting in extra effort.
No.

Well I have a 13 week old baby and taken them to two restaurants.
First time was a shitty indian buffet, everything was fine, slept like...a baby trough it.

Next time we went to a better restaurant, again it was fine. I noticed another couple in with a small baby. Our baby cried a little, we rocked him etc no big deal. The waitresses seemed taken away with him. The waiters couldn't care less.

No one complained, at least not too our face. They probably realised they were babies once, or they may have been parents and realised parents need to get out and do things also.

Obviously a reply like some people here shows immaturity and a false sense of importance.

>>5180315
If it's that big of a deal to you, why not go to a restaurant that bans children.

>>5181600
You were rude in public and you got away with it.
Bully for you.

>>5181600
>parents need to get out and do things also
No you don't.

>>5181515
I used to be a waitress at a kitschy casual dining chain. Management let us decorate our server books, so mine was covered in superhero stickers. Worked like a charm for little kids.

It's also helpful to have some cartoon bandaids in your apron for the slightly older ones. Approach the weeping child with overplayed concern, offer them a Darth Vader or Hello Kitty themed one of their choice for "where it hurts". Instant peace.

>>5177794
My wife and I just had our first kid, and this has been our experience so far. Make sure he has a clean diaper and is fed, and we're good for 3-4 hours because he's happy or asleep.

>>5181600
You seem sensible, but we really don't have any idea to what level your baby cried or disturbed others, or not. One thing you should realize is that people working for tips would treat you well, if they had common sense, so yes, may or may not to your face have said anything.

I think people can and do dine with their babies quite peacefully, they just need to be willing to tag team going outside with it, and even be prepared to leave, or ruin one person's entire dinner. It's just how it is. Sometimes they chill out, sometimes they don't. My aunt and uncle had a phase with their colic baby they couldn't go out. Later, they had a 45 minute rule. If there was a wait for a restaurant, they didn't wait and went somewhere else. They ordered no appetizers, fast cooking dinners, and knew at about 45 minutes, their kid started to act up. He grew out of it. But, they didn't have to compromise going out, just had to skip the whole beeper-waiting kind of system for reservations, and they had to order differently, no lingering for hours.

What irks me the most about bad etiquette parents, are one's who don't stop kids kicking in booths, and parents who let toddlers jet around the restaurant, running around while the adults linger.

>>5181606
I would if it was more widespread/properly advertised

>>5181647
>are one's who don't stop kids kicking in booths, and parents who let toddlers jet around the restaurant, running around while the adults linger
i don't mind people bringing their kids out to restaurants, but this is one of the few things that legitimately pisses me off. more than once i've seem some little asshole turn around and start fucking with the people in the booth behind them, clearly irritating the person, while the shithead parents just ignore it.

that said, ive also seen plenty of parents who would be willing to make the kid go home without food, or other such punishment, and apologize to the disturbed party.

definitely more of a parent problem than a kid problem, because some kids are well behaved enough that they don't require parental intervention because they aren't doing shit like that.

>>5178557
I think it's perfectly reasonable to expect that young children aren't brought to theatres and cinemas.

A young child will get little enjoyment out of a film or play, but risks ruining the performance for everyone else in the crowd

>>5181600
>parents need to get out and do things also.
At which point you support your local teenaged babysitter, or some immigrant, jesus christ. Plus, do you really want to be taking care of a baby on a romantic date/night out?

>>5181668
Oh it wasn't romantic, just sometimes it's nice/a small break for someone else to cook and clean.

I'm from the UK so generally tips aren't that great of a deal so the servers don't have to be overly nice or pleasant (and many aren't)

And how were we rude?

Anyway, yeah one person looked after him when he was upset while the oter ate and he was calm. It wasn't a cry more of a 'hey guys I'm a baby don't forget about me

>>5181666
Sometimes they do behave.

When I was really little, my parents took us everywhere, from kid's movies, to adult movies (at the drive-in no less), but they were ready and willing to bust it out of there, if the language was offensive, or if we didn't behave. But, we were fairly good kids. We fly on airline passes and went to church. We grew up behaving. My parents credit spanking, however infrequent the threat. They are very critical of parents with poorly behaving children. But, they certainly didn't get us to behave by leaving us with babysitters. They used those for timeouts for themselves, but they adored their kids and didn't leave us behind on vacations and most things, by choice. Kids also have personalities, some wake up screaming, some wake up smiling.

>>5181659
So become an advocate for it. If you go to a nice place, and a child disturbs you, complain to the manager and ask that they ban children in the future.

But eventually you're going to have to accept that those sorts of restaurants are always going to be a minority. Most restaurants at least tolerate families and that will likely never change. And most parents aren't going to just stop taking their kids out in public because they might disturb a stranger. Both those things are unreasonable to expect.

>>5181729
He can still be a dick about it when it comes up in conversation.
At least a few parents are now aware that they are meal ruiners.

>>5181742
What does that achieve other than to (maybe) make him feel a little better because he got to gripe about it, and to make him look like an unreasonable ass. He's not going to change anyone's behavior by bitching on 4chan.

>>5181751
He is a little butterfly flapping his wings.
Who knows what shit storm he might create?

>>5181793
That reminds me of a song my Machines of Loving Grace.

>>5181841
What song is that anon?

I don't give out hot water to Customers because people are stupid and burn themselves

>>5182119
Butterfly Wings.
And I meant "by Machines of Loving Grace." Derp.

>>5182138
>>5182138
Pretty cool song. I just listened to it while imagining anon flapping his little wings and glowering at OPs babby.

>>5182385
I chuckled audibly as I read that and imagined the same thing. In my mind's eye, Anon is also scratching at the ground with his unkempt toenails like a chicken.

>>5177524
ex-McD employee here.
We would be a shit restaurant and we did heat bottles for customers

bump

Only in America is going out to eat some sort of big treat. In Korea we eat out almost every other meal - Yea I'm going to get babysitter every time.

>>5177630
one time there was a crying baby but it sounded like the trex from jurassic park

>>5185217
Thats because your eating out is going to some shack or street stall to eat bugs or diseased rotten animals.

>>5185217
Maybe if you all werent playing so much Star Craft 2 and undergoing extensive surgical augmentation you'd have time to cook a decent meal.

>>5185239

You're.

Is this what Americans really believe? The world laughs at your Walmart culture.

>>5185257
>You're.
i really want to believe you're serious, but i just can't.

on the off chance you are serious, it's "your," you fuck. try having a basic grasp of the language before correcting others.

your- possesive (i fucked YOUR mother)
you're- contraction for "you are" (YOU'RE probably pretty pissed that i fucked your mother)

>>5185275
You're wrong. Deal with it lol!

>>5185257
Oh Jesus.

>>5177897
NOBODY WANTS KIDS

>>5177534
so what if its touched raw food or not

its been in someones mouth

if I tell you to boil my cutlary you boil it, peasant!

>>5177678
>Guttersnipe

How's that fedora treating you?

>>5177709

It does if you're a regular.

Is the op still around?

why won't this thread die