/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>5081064
I'm getting really sick of barrel aged high abv beers. it's like the 1990s and vanilla scented napa chardonnay all over again.

sorry if I started this thread out on a sour note.

>>5081068
Its all right, I'm still trying to figure out my own preferences so I dont really know whats good or whats shit, but I do know I liked this one.

>>5081064
Anything Founders brews is pretty based. I like their breakfast stout.

>>5081068
>sour note
Ohh you :^)

bump? wow this board is slower than a turtle stampeding through molasses in the snow.

does your local beer store offer mix-and-match 6 packs? just get a bunch of beers that look interesting.

>>5081216
If they do and you (not you, but OP) are still not sure, just ask the people that work there or just start at the beginning and go through everything.

After I had figured out what styles I liked and tried most of the ones I knew were supposed to be good, I started doing that and found some I didn't like but a few good ones that I wouldn't have tried otherwise.

>>5081064
same story here OP, 18 in the UK. I'm currently drinking black sheep ale.

I went to belguim for new year, and I have heard many good things about belgian beers, but I was very disappointed with all of the 20+ I tried over the week, they all share a similar zingy sourness. I could compare it to blue cheese, another highly praised thing that i can't stand.

>>5081064
Bastard is OK, but avoid beers with the words "Asshole", "Dickhead" and "Fuckface" in the name.

>>5083678
Come to Germany, Upper Franconia to be specific. We've got more breweries per person than cars, you'll find something you like.

>>5081216
>no Kristallweizen
Into the thrash it goes!

>>5083744
Shh, anon, don't be mad.

>>5081064
I need to try this, love their porter.

Anyone else tried this shit? Based as fuck. One of the sweetest beers I've tried but it knocks me on my ass every time.

>>5083678
>they all share a similar zingy sourness.

They like their lager, yes.

>>5081216

>>5083732
I went to delerium in brussels, 2400 beers - it would take a while to try any real proportion of them though. I'm still relatively new to ber though, maybe one day i'll enjoy the style more.

I'd love to go to C3 and then a germany beer tour one day

>>5081064
In Denmark, the drinking age is 16. I've been drinking beer for 5 years. 21 is ridiculous.

Mikkeller is fucking great always. He makes amazing Lambics. I higlhy recommend trying any Mikkeller beer you can.

>>5083771
Yeah, it's delicious, but I drink it as I would wine. To a good hearty meal.

Real beer like pic related is for real drinking. Like, half the bottle in a zip after a hard work day. Or with friends while discussing politics and bitches.

I enjoy both styles, but on different occasions.

>>5083812
Yeah, it's got a lot of wine-like qualities so that's perfectly valid. I drink it like fucking kool-aid personally (it just goes down so god damned smooth) which is probably why it gets me so fucked up. Can honestly say it was the first beer to get me completely drunk.

>>5083823
Well, it's 11,3%.

That'll get anyone drunk. In my opinion, it has a slightly too nail-polish-like aftertaste. The achohol is a wee bit too dominating.

I prefer Bernardus 12, or Westvleteren XII for belgian quads.

>>5083800
I can only recommend that. There's this little municipality called Aufseß, 1500 people, four breweries. They even have an official tour (~14km, I think), I did that once, tons of fun. You might want to take someone with you who can translate, though.

>>5083823
I can recommend this trappistenbier, it's a dubbel so not as strong but delicious indeed.

>>5083838
>speak no german at all
>have no friends that speak any german at all

>>5083812
Well, it is about as strong as wine.

>>5083849
Well luckily for you even my grandmother who's from a village with 6 other people speaks rudimentary english. You won't have a problem as long as you're friendly.

>>5083849
Damn. Well, as long as you can say "Ein Lager/Dunkles/Zwickl bitte", you'll probably be fine.
Understanding them is like learning Oxford English and traveling to Alabama, on the other hand.

>>5083857
My grandmother doesn't speak a word of English, and managed to party with an American lady who didn't speak a word of German.

Moral of the story: alcohol transcends language.

>>5083771
>Based as fuck.

the fuck does that mean

>>5083872
Now that you say Zwickl... tried this the other day and I was really pleasantly surprised, top light and refreshing.

>>5083884
Hello newfriend.

Enjoy your stay.

>>5083884
I would kindly suggest you, as they say, lurk moar.

>>5083885
Zwickl has always been one of my favourites. Funny, since technically it's not a "finished" beer yet (at least that's how it came to be).

>>5083886
>>5083888

thanks for your helpful response

>>5083902
Fuck off with your sarcasm.

>>5083884
>based
>as in base
>as in the opposite of acidic
>as in not sour

He meant it was a very mild beer.

>>5083902
He meant to say "biased" as in "this beer has reservations against other beers, it's generally not very welcoming". You shouldn't blend it with other beers.

>>5083910
>>5083923
lol
lel
l0l
lal
lul

And so on.

>>5083923
>blending beers

I know you're not serious, but sweet mother of Jesus frontflippin Christ, has anyone ever tried that?

>>5083954
Yes. Look up the Evil Twin Yin and Yang beer.

It's an IPA mixed with Imperial Stout.

>>5083972
Huh.

The traditionalist in me is vomiting.

>>5083988
I have one bottle of it in my fridge. Haven't tried it yet.

I purchased it out of pure curiosity.

>>5083954
Never heard of a black and tan?

>>5083988
But think... the possibilities...

I'm the "biased"nonsense poster, but now that you say it... tomorrow I'll start blending trappistes with weizen, pils with IPA, stout with märzen... It will be a whole new world hihihihahahahahehaHAHAHAHAHAEHHADSJSDF

>>5084037
I actually laughed. I was not expecting the post to end like that.

>>5081064
>legally drinking beer at age 21
>being this pleb

>>5084035
Nope. Then again, I have been brought up to believe mixing beer with anything (other than maybe lemonade, for kids and girls) is heresy.

>>5084085
Like anyone actually cares about the legal drinking age.

>>5083771
You fucking moron, you clearly just went on a beer-rating website and bought one from near the top. I bet you know bugger all about Trappists or beers in general.

>refers to it as "shit"
>describes it as "based as fuck"
>can only actually pinpoint "sweet" in the taste
>implying a good beer "knocks me on my ass every time"

eurgh, it hurts me to know that somebody such as yourself purchased one of these fine beers, what a waste.

>>5085451
Why do you think he has to know about Trappists to understand a beer? Why do you think someone can't refer to a Trappist beer using slang words? Why do you think sweet only has one connotation?

It sounds like you have only had this beer once and put it on a fuckin pedestal.

Sake is actually beer, not wine. Now you have another few thousand brews to try.

>>5085477
>Sake is actually beer,
Nope.

>>5085477
no, sake is sake

the production process is closer to beer than wine, but that doesnt make it a beer.

wine ferments with the sugars already in the grape, while beer needs to be brewed to convert starch to sugar which is then fermented.

sake is brewed also, but the similarities to beer end here.

>>5085500
Beer has a pretty broad definition. It's literally extracting a sugar from a starch and fermenting it. Thus sake can be classified as beer.

>>5083954
It's pretty common. I'd reccomed trying 1 part of a Flemish red to 4 parts chocolate stout

>>5085518
then why would it be called sake then?

>>5085543
Because sake is technically a subset of beer where 100% of the starch is rice.

>>5085569
classic japanese bartender here, can confirm it is not.

>>5085577
Brewer here. Care to explain? Because uhhhh you're wrong

>>5085581
its just not, barley wine is, but sake is not a "beer".

>>5085569
but if it doesn't use malted barely it is not beer

>>5085631
Wrong. There are 100% wheat beers, there are plenty of gluten free beers. There are beers that use sorGhum as the starch source. Chicha is a type of beer made from corn, that has its starches converted into sugar by human saliva. Rice and buckwheat are two other starch sources that are used to make beer with 0 barley.

The best brewery in the world.

If you say otherwise you objectively know nothing about beer.

>>5085652
I also forgot quinoa and millet. A 100% rye beer would be theoretically possible, but it'd be a huge pain in the ass, I don't think it has been done before.

>>5085652
>There are 100% wheat beers
Pretty sure wheat beers are usually about 50% wheat 50% barely
>there are plenty of gluten free beers
Which are technically not beers

I suppose it depends on how you choose to define beer, but the legal definition in most jurisdictions involves barley

>>5085669
Yes usually wheat beers are at least 60/40 barley to wheat, but they don't have to be. And although some food laws have narrowed the definition of beer to help consumers know what to expect, the definition of including malted barely makes little scientific sense, leaves out most African beers, and many historical beer styles. Additionally, the U.S. is coming around on it's beer labeling. Sorghum beers are now legally labled as "beer made with sorghum" http://www.fda.gov/Food/GuidanceRegulation/GuidanceDocumentsRegulatoryInformation/LabelingNutrition/ucm166239.htm

>>5085702
Oddly enough this FDA ruling notes that Sake is scientifically a beer, but that the FDA classifies it as a wine.

>>5085543
the same reason barley wine, lager, porter, or anything else aren't called beer

>>5085716
That's because it is brewed in the same manner as beer but is served as and has the ABV similar to wine.

I'm guessing

>>5083781
Here in the uk i'm more used to lager being weak beer and bitter being strong beer.

I think to most people that's about it, but I'm learning quite quickly that it's not

>>5081064
That stuff is shit.

If you're going to drink a bourbon barrel beer, drink one that's actually brewed in Kentucky you autismal fuck.

>>5083847
Had this not so long ago, not a bad dubbel but it tasted kind of muted to me. Like it was lacking something.
Their tripel is really nice though.