/ck/ - Food & Cooking

I always wondered if there were people who actually like that stuff, or if it's just one of those things, like fruitcake or those horrible valentine hearts, that people eat out of seasonal obligation.

>be from Italy
>hate panettone, pandoro, panforte and colomba pasquale
We make some godawful fucking cakes. I like chiocciola, though and torciglione isn't bad.

>>5042874
The chocolate chip one is cashhhh. Raisin one blows

italians make cakes like germans make coffee

keep that shit away from me

>>5043117
Germans invented the pour over method.
Might be better to say that we make cakes like Finns make coffee. Sure: they drink the most cups of coffee, but when they're using 5g of grounds to brew 200ml of water, that's not exactly a fair statistic, is it?
Finnish coffee is total shit. We brew 7g of grounds ber 90ml of water.

>Not making Lidia's Panettone

Had some of that junk once; it was dry and tasted like shit. Never again.

il mio amico

i thought sicily had nice cakes?

>>5042864

We have some this year again. It's still too sweet for my taste.

>>5044163
Not really. The biscuits aren't bad, but the cakes in Sicily are awful. Naples has decent cakes, but they're still not that great (other than torta caprese, a chocolate and chestnut flour cake, which is just glorious). Northeastern Italy has sachertorte, which is similar to torta caprese except that it's made of hazelnut flour rather than chestnut and is layered with apricot marmalade between each layer.
Moslty, though, our cakes are horrid. For each good cake we make, there are another fifty that are terrible. Germanic people make good cakes, not Latinate ones.

When Panettone is great, it's great, but when it's bad, it's dry and tasteless. I usually only eat it if it's homemade (by myself or my mom), because the bought ones are inevitably dry.

my dad eats them up like nobodies business
I'll eat them if there's nothing else or they don't have raisins in them
I have one right now and I might eat some

What's it taste like?

>>5044332
Despair and broken promises.

>>5044337
Sounds pretty much like the past two Christmases

>>5044339
It's a heavily yeasty brioche. Despite being technically brioche, it is paradoxically as dry as a witch's cunt.
They're fairly horrid, even when they're not dry.

Not to mention you can make a fucking sublime bread and butter pudding with the leftovers.

>>5042864
>dry as a witch's cunt.
Shit is so fucking dry. Bought one 2 years ago for family and nobody took more than a bite.

>>5044376
Pretty much all it's good for. I worked in an Italian importer/grocer and we used to sell fucking thousands around this time of year. Eventually we started printing out little bread pudding recipes and putting them in our storefront and then that shit sold so fucking fast we ran out of it before Christmas.

The worst Christmas dessert. Step your game up, Italy. Even the fucking English do holiday sweets better than you.

>not eating panettone for breakfast on Xmas
>not drinking coffee with it to set yourself up for the day
>not drinking large amounts of brandy with both of them
>not making thick cocoa then dipping slices into it as the brandy settles and you tidy up
>2013

>>5044614
All the English have is sweets.

>>5044618
This.
It's like people don't even know how to eat it. I'm not even Italian, but I grew up with some family that made it as tradition, and yeah....coffee, brandy, cocoa, etc. It's like any other coffee cake situation.

>>5044614
As I've said: we're not good for cakes. You want cakes in Europe, you ask someone from a Germanic culture for it (despite what they'll tell you, the Scots, the Welsh and the Irish are Germanic in culture as they're English-dominated societies and English is a Germanic culture) and avoid Latinate cultures. The only exceptions to this otherwise steadfast rule would be the French, who owe much of their sweets to Germanic culture in the first place.
Italy sucks for cakes. We've got so-so biscuits. We've got great pies (though they're not well-known at all outside Italy). But our cakes are godawful.

>>5044637
It doesn't have to be cake! Spill it, what are your pies?

>>5044622

Actually all they got is an overabundance of imported sugar.

looks like raisin bread i can pick up in any grocery store.

>>5044648
The most popular are stonefruit pies, such as apricots, plums and peaches. My favourite is apricot.
Chocolate pie is also very popular (egg yolks, melting chocolate, milk, flour and sugar combined as the filling).
Apple isn't unheard of, but uncommon. Apple and vanilla or apple and lemon (apple on top of a vanilla or lemon custard pie) is much, much more common.
Pic related is apricot.

>>5044838
And this is chocolate.
The crusts are made of shortbread.

>>5044838
>>5044844
I'd count those as tarts, but definitely 9/10 would eat.

Anyone has a good recipe?

I don't have a mixer with kneading attachments.

>>5044797
WRONG!

It's got peel and stuff in it and tastes 100x better than shitty raisin bread. Also tastes delicious when dipped in coffee.

>>5046613
It ain't easy. But here you go.

http://bewitchingkitchen.com/tag/peter-reinharts-panettone/

>>5042864
>not dunking toasted and untoasted panettone in cold milk

>>5044577
You had a bad one. If made properly it's incredibly moist and stays moist even after it's been cut open.

This applies to both the panettone and cunts.

>not eating the raisins
Is /ck/ full of kids?

>>5046664
I don't like the ones they give kids, you know the ones they coat in sugar. Fucking terrible.

>>5046667
What kind of monster does that?

>>5046670
Every parent that buys the cheap sun made ones.

Pandoro master race reporting for duty
Fuck you panettone

>>5043134
Here in murrika the "correct" way is done with 25g to 8oz, or about 247ml of water

Pandoro stuffed with chocolate cream masterrace reporting in.
Panettone is for the elders, come on man.

looks purdy good. thanks.

>>5046697
No it isn't. It's 14g per 8oz. I know this for a fact.

>>5043476

Youre meant to eat it with coffee.

I live in Lombardia, although I'm in Vienna for Christmas.
Panettone ore pretty shit their, although you get plenty of them as gifts.
As other anon said, bread pudding is the way to deal with them. (Or ducks)
But the tarts are incredible, and sachertorte is pretty good too.
Actually, I just had one at the sacher hotel, and the ones you get at grocery stores are just as good, if not better.

It's like you lot aren't even trying.

>>5046632
>http://bewitchingkitchen.com/tag/peter-reinharts-panettone/
THanks mate

Panettone is for plebs who think they're being poshed.

>>5044305

>Sachertorte
>Italian

invented by Austrian Franz Sacher[1] in 1832 for Prince Wenzel von Metternich in Vienna, Austria

>>5046825
And Italy was part of the Austrian Hungarian Empire at the time.

>>5046860
>Americans in charge of history

>>5046821
>mfw I've had panetonne for christmas for as long as I can remember

fook u m8 i'll dek u

>>5046860
There was no Italy at the time.

>>5046873
Its the only dessert we eat on xmas around here

>>5042864
It seems like it is nothing more than raisin bread.

>>5046825
Tirol was entirely Austrian at the time. Currently, it is split between Austria and Italy, with Italy's Sudtirolo/Alto Adige and Trentino regions taking the lion's share of the original Tirol.
Sachertorte is enjoyed throughout the Tirol Region and neighbouring areas, regardless of countries. You can buy it as far south as Dubrovnik-Neretva, since the Austrian monarchy extended that far south until the end of the first world war.
We share a lot of history, culture, holiday traditions and food between each of our countries. Just as we eat and prepare sachertorte, an Austrian creation, in Northeastern Italy, Austrians eat boscaiola with pasta in their country.