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Hey /ck/
I've been put in charge of making Christmas dinner for my family this year. My plan is to make beef wellington. I just have a question about the quality of beef to get. Obviously it calls for filet mignon, but my local butcher has two options. One of them is $20/lb, the other is $12/lb. My mother went to the butcher to see them, and she doesn't know much about meat. I was just wondering how much of a difference it would make, or how I can tell how much lower quality the second meat is?

>> No.5037747

>>5037742

I usually make that to but I use spam instead for flavor, texture and it's almost impossible to overcook.

>> No.5037753

>>5037747
I personally think spam is disgusting
I really just want to know how to identify the quality of meat

>> No.5037756

>>5037753

well with spam they do all the work for you by per-selecting only the choices quality cuts of meat and molding them into a perfect wellington shape with the ease of just opening a can that packed for freshness. I don't really know why you would want to use anything else.

>> No.5037768

>>5037742
Ask your butcher, that's what he's there for.

>> No.5037772

>>5037768

that's kinda stupid, he's only gonna try to sell you the more expensive one, where with spam you'll always know that your getting top quality for a good, totally unbiased price.

>> No.5037775

Are you paying for the ingredients for this meal? Are you living below the poverty line? Are you just going to fuck it up regardless?

If you answered NO to any or all of these questions, get the $20 cut.

>> No.5037783

>>5037772
Plz leave.

>> No.5037788

>>5037775
I'm not paying for it, but my mom isn't thrilled about paying $60 for 3 pounds of meat

>> No.5037790

>>5037783

>stop liking things

screw you homo

>> No.5037792

>>5037788
>my mom isn't thrilled about paying $60 for 3 pounds of meat

that's not what she told me

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>> No.5037894

>>5037768
Go ask the butcher. If it is a good butcher, he will give you honest advice. Otherwise just spring for the $20 stuff - it's expensive but (again if the butcher is good) it's a safe bet.

>> No.5037895

>>5037894
meant to reply to

>>5037742

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>> No.5037991

used to work in a butcher shop....$20 is probably prime grade....best you can get $12 is probably choice...still good second best....for beef wellington the choice will be fine...you probably wouldnt be able to tell the difference

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>> No.5038246

Any sort of beef tenderloin that's going for $12 a pound is sure to be trash.

If you're going to make beef tenderloin for a special occasion, you should be splurging.

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>> No.5038328

>>5037742
Tell me what you know about these pieces and I'll see what I can do for you.

Is one beef butt tenderloin vs. whole tenderloin?
If they're both the same… I'd say it'd be likely that one is select beef and the other is probably choice beef.

Some have suggested Prime grade for the $20 cut, but I sincerely doubt that this would be accurate. Last I saw, select peeled butts (fillet mignon) was approximately $9/lb for most stores to pull in. Choice and Angus (choice level) were closer to $14--16 a pound. If $9 in means $12-16 purchase cost, then even the choice level would net you approximately $20/lb.

Again, if you have any knowledge of the names that the butcher used, let me know and I'll see if I can help you break down what the difference is between the two cost options.

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>> No.5039055

>>5038328
Yeah, I was looking at a PSMO (single piece) from my broadliner today and it was $16/lb for choice Angus.
That's wholesale, for the whole kit and kaboodle.
Where do you live that someone could pull in master cases at $9/lb? Even select? Maybe your talking about REAL buying power that I'm not accustomed to, bigger than a master case...?

>> No.5039077

>>5037756
>>5037747
my sides

>> No.5039090

>reaction images, /ck/ edition

but seriously it sounds like you (OP) have never made beef Wellington. so really I doubt your choice of beef will have a large impact on the dish in the end. this is self-evident by you even asking the question.

buy the cheap beef, get good at it, next year buy expensive beef and knock it outta the park.

>> No.5039278

>>5039055
The wholesale cost from our providers for Select grade peeled butts is $9.12 a pound last I saw. Angus is certainly at least $16 a pound here too, friend.

I was saying that I figured that the anons were mistaken in assuming that you could get higher quality beef for $12 a pound from a case; sorry if I worded it poorly. I merely meant to muse that it's most likely Select grade beef for the fillets. There's a chance that the $20 per pound for the OP is either steak costs, or perhaps a whole piece that is Choice meat (perhaps not even Angus choice).

We've ordered some of our meats in 2,000 pound intervals before; though it's typically a scarcity for that sort of order. On average the cases we order weigh in from 60-80 pounds each (typical cases); so I'm not sure what to tell you about ordering cost differences.

I know that if you want some relatively cheep and pretty good Angus- your company should try to order from CreekStone. Their lowest grade is typically slightly higher than Select, and their Choice is Choice+. They pretty much have 2 grades of Prime.. Both are delicious.

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>>5037792

imma, just post an obligatory reaction image, but don't get into some...where where there toppings on?

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>>5039313
>not the original "what were there topping on?"
>almost 2015-1

>> No.5039333

>>5039319

ok...I'll give you that, for the most hilarious thread that annoyed the shit out of everyone...but it was to funny for the mods to kill.

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>>5037792
It's like I'm on /sp/

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>> No.5040825

>>5037742
Have you ever made it?

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>> No.5041900

if you don't even know what kind of meat you shoudl buy for wellington, you better stick with burgers.

this can't turn out into anything good, anon

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>> No.5041975

>>5041900
Give him a fuckin break you cunt.

OP be nice to your mum and get the cheaper one, it's still a reasonable price. Good luck and merry Xmas

>> No.5042027

12 to 20 is a big jump. and be carfule eye round. and ribeye are two completely different things. It makes a difference. eye of round will never get tender. tenderlion will maybe. if determined go for the 20l bs no gauruntee, and anyone that says is literally dumber than diirt oi's a big risk, may be, maybe not,. oryop could do like me. buy a big bonless chuck roast. maybe 2 , alow 1 lb per person, sear. put in a baking pan. carrots onions, celery,most of a bottle of red wine. 350f about 4 hours. go do somthing else. , beef wellington is really difficult, not that great and very expensive.and easy to mess up make, a chuck roast and gravy. somne taters whatever. good ness gracious, even wiyh prime, it almost never turns out well the ends are burned and the middle is blood raw nwhile the crust is barley done. wellington indeed spend the time with family and friends only point you will prove iis it is almoust impossible to make and a very expensive fail if you havealready bought the beef, cook it and make yorkshire pudding if you don't know what that. and not being is, you dont need be attempting beef wellington. Its not so great anyway Im sure you family and friends would rather have your company..

>> No.5042046

>>5042027
I like how you never capitalise, and that you use punctuation completely randomly.

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>>5037792
>what were there toppings on 2.0

bravo

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>>5044311
I made a .gif about the second part of that scene.

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>> No.5044345

>>5044316
>liberals first time visitin(...).gif

visiting what?

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>>5037792
>>5037798
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>>5040784
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>>5041896
>>5041925
>>5044286
>>5044295
>>5044311
>>5044316
>>5044342

really guys?

>> No.5045029

>>5044345
are you retarded?

>> No.5045042

>>5045029
not everyone has the same browser or extensions that you have. guy you're quoting would have to hover the cursor/pointer over the text to get the full filename

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>>5040784
>daily walter payton reminder

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>>5044963
Yes.

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Any recipes for something as delicious as OP?

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>>5037792

wow

get told

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>>5037792

And this moment will live on for the rest of our lives.

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>>5037792
#SHOTSFIRED

>> No.5050100

Hey you faggots, that joke was beyond unfunny. You can stop the reaction image dump circle jerking now.

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>>5050100
>#SHOTSFIRED

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>>5050100
5050100

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>> No.5050232

>>5050100

You still haven't realized all the reaction image came from the one poster who made the joke in the first place ...

>> No.5050241

>>5050232

l2samefag real fag

>> No.5050249

my dad and i made a prime rib for christmas dinner

easiest shit ever and it fed 12 people with leftovers for sandwiches and whatnot

>> No.5050701

>>5044963
all same fag

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>>5050701

dude..WAT?

also, reaction to >>5037792

>> No.5050739

>>5045042


so he is retarded for not thinking of that?

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>> No.5051559

>>5037756
I had a serious chuckle, thanks anon.