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Old Pulteney's alright. That's usually what I go to when I can't afford any better but I want the baseline single malt flavors. Cardhu isn't my favorite -- I like malts with a little more going on -- but it's hard to taste a malt that's been aged 18 years and not appreciate that smoothness and complexity. I wouldn't ordinarily touch the 12 YO but the 18 is quite pleasant.

>>4986017
Allright, thanks. I heard a lot of praise for the Pulteney on /ck/, so I wanted to check that out.
The cardhu was on sale at my whiskey dealer so I got a bottle too... I mean it is the single malt that flavours johnny walker. Also I'm not exactly a fan of too much peat so I'm excited.

>muh bar, the Jameson is gone now, part of why I'm not feeling so good right now. Wasn't really interesting but way better than tullamore dew.

>>4986049
How is the Tullamore Dew?

>>4986059
Well, it's got that typical irish grain bitterness... Other than that, well, at least it doesn't burn your mouth with alcohol. But no distinct flavours or complexity.

>>4986067
Thanks

heres my cupboard
i have got a few full bottles and tons of 100ml and 200ml samples
under the samples are a few fancy jewels wich are too expensive to buy a full bottle like bruichladdich black arts 3.1

>>4986139
Very nice, I am yet to try any bruichladdich, they are indeed expensive. Maybe for cristmas...

How is the Glenfarclas?

>>4986147
its like cake in a glass.
dark chocolate, coffee and fruitcake.
but its got a certain bitterness in the finish, its not for everyone. but if you like dark chocolate, youll love it. i needed a c.a 200ml and a few bars of dark chocolate before i could really appreachiate it

>>4986147
if you wanna try bruichladdich, try the 10 year old.
unpeated, burbon cask at 46%.
its great. you need to give it a few drops of water and then cover it up for 20min.
with water the whisky just opens up and it becomes incredibly delicious

>>4986168
That sounds amazing, I don't think I've ever had a scotch like that. Will try.

>>4986173
Stop recommending me whisky guys, I already feel my paycheck shrink. Sounds good!

>>4985990
Glad to see that you took my advice about Old Pulteney.

Cardhu, sadly, is not a very outstanding whisky.

Just got a bottle of Highland Park 30.

I am thinking about some Bunnahabhain 18 for my next purchase.

>>4986067
Ok how is it compared to jameson?

different person

>>4986257
hows the glendronach?
i was choosing between glanfarclas and glendronach and the glenfarclas 15 year old won the race.

The US mail isn't allowed to transport liquids

>>4986268
The GlenDronach 15 is fucking great. I have a bottle of GlenFarclas 15, but I have yet to open it.

The Dronach is like a sherry-chocolate dessert in a glass. It's a perfect desert drink.

>>4986270
Good I'm in germany then.

>>4986274
the same goes for the glenfarclas^^

>>4986287
I'll look forward to it.

>>4985990

Why is there rum in op's jpg? Isn't there a danger that someone will try and serve that in a drink?

>>4986313
maybe OP isn't a stuck up jack-off

>>4986313
Women, I would assume.

Been sober for six months, but I'm finally getting off of probation this week, so I went to the store and picked these two up. The Buffalo is a gift for a coworker's new place. He's not a big whiskey guy, so I'll most likely end up drinking most of it. The rye is for myself the day that the glorious overlord PO calls and tells me the judge signed my papers.

Skipped on the scotch today as I forgot how expensive my uppity white suburban liquor store is ($53 for Glenlivet 12. Hah, fuck that).

>>4986424
Guess I should mention that I didn't buy the coworker a gift so that I could drink it. It's more that he already has a full bar, but no bourbon.

>>4986313
I like to have at least one kind of every liquor around, for the ladies as >>4986319 assumed and because some days I dig a refreshing cocktail.

>>4986424
I could never really get into rye... not my thing.
Holy fuck, here in Germany the Glenfiddich 18 is around 45 €.

>>4986438
Sorry, I read "Glenfiddich 12"... But still, the Glenlivet 18 is also 50€.

>>4986438
>>4986444
They're not nearly that expensive everywhere here (Denver, Colorado). They're more like $30-35. The liquor store next to my house just happens to be the most expensive one I've EVER been to and really my only option if I wanted something this week (no car)

>>4986450
Is everything that expensive there or just scotch? How can they justify that?

>>4986454
Everything at this store is only a couple dollars more than all the other stores within a few miles, but for some reason the scotch is ridiculous. I guess they can get away with it because their store is surrounded by million dollar houses.

>>4986139

Strong love for Islay malts as well, can't find anything that compares. Have you tried lagavulin? Its similar to ardbeg in its smokiness but it has a different character.

I'm Irish but I have to admit that scotch is the best, our attempts are better than most big international brands though.

>>4986424
Also, I'm glad I skipped on the scotch because I can ask you guys this. I've only had Glenfiddich 12 and various blends before, so I have these on my short list to look for when I do get a single malt

Glenmorangie
Glenfiddich
Glenlivet
Glen Moray
Speyburn
Old Pulteney

Are there any more I should add to this list? Obviously going for the lowest price bracket but I want options as price and availability is highly variable.

>>4986477
Most of those are whiskys that are created in immense amounts and sold all over the world. That doesn't make them bad per se, but they are very industrially produced and are vatted for a wida audience so you won't find much complexity in there. My suggestion would be to go to a bar that has a reasonable selection like your list and try some glasses first before you buy a bottle each, throwing money out that you could invest in a whiskey you really like (If you have a whisky store that would let you try some even better).

>>4986438
For rye, you'll probably want to start with pic related
It's not so much a sipping whiskey as a mixer, but in an Old Fahioned or Manhattan, it's incredible.

>>4986438
Seriously guys, this is just good hospitality. Not everyone likes to drink Octomore or Booker's. If you can afford 12+ bottles of at least mid tier booze, you can afford a bottle or two of Bacardi or Stoly for when you have people over. Don't be snobby neckbeard twat

Elmer T. Lee
Stagg Jr.
Four Roses Single Barrel
Old Forester Birthday Bourbon 2013
Ardbeg 10

Can't be bothered to take a picture

>>4988841
No joke, Overholt is overwhelmed by corn adjunct in a straight application, but is mild enough to balance out with some sweet vermouth/ citrus bitters/ a splash of campari or my favorite, angostura bitters with a quick twist of lemon.

Then you can actually taste the spearmint and spice notes Overholt has to offer

I have to buy my rye whiskey online because they don't stock it here. Nobody's even heard of it. They make manhattans with bourbon, yeugh!

>>4989459
Then it is time for you to spread the good word, anon. The masses out there need to hear the Gospel of Rye, and see for themselves the blessings it bestows onto its adherents.

>>4985990
Don't drink whiskey myself, but bought a bottle of Bushmills 16y for a friend of mine for his birthday. He's loves the Irish single malts, can't into all that smokey stuff. Well, at least not yet.

Alright guys, I opened the Cardhu 18.
Sadly y'all were right. "Characterless" is the best way to describe it. Aside from a little unpleasant grain note there's just nothing to discover... scent is a little sweet but nothing distinct and the taste isn't even as smooth as some 12yo whiskys.

A shame.

>>4986049
How is the Laphroaig 10? Been wanting to try it, but can't find a bar that serves it, and kind of poor, so 50 dollars is a bit steep for me

>>4986257
Nice. Would love to taste some pappy, but there are far too many whiskey fans in SF area.

Whiskey pleb here. Is this shit any good? The bottle was pretty and it was at my price point and I halfway recognized the brand.

>>4992257

>>4988841
>>4989421
It's nice enough for mixing, but for drinking/sipping I think you'd be better off going for Wild Turkey, Rittenhouse 100, or Bulleit Rye over Overholt.

Overholt is cheap as fuck though.

>>4992257
>>4992261
Most bourbon fans don't really care much for this. Rittenhouse BiB, OGD BiB, Elijah Craig 12, WT 101, and Old Weller Antique are pretty much universally liked by american whiskey fans. 1792 isn't bad, but there is just better whiskey for the price.

>>4985990
Where do you order from?

>>4991865
Not the guy you're replying to, but it's alright. Honestly, I'd rather save up an extra $10 and get Ardbeg 10. Well worth it, IMO

>>4992257
It's got a unique flavor profile, but it's neither unique enough nor good enough to justify the price. It's the kind of thing you'd get if you're a super experienced bourbon drinker who wants to try something new for the sake of trying something new. I'd recommend Elmer T. Lee, Elijah Craig 12, or Buffalo Trace.

>>4992295
>>4992319
>you're a super experienced bourbon drinker who wants to try something new for the sake of trying something new.

Well I guess that's me. I'll keep those other bottles in mind next time, though.

I've actually been drinking bourbon for a long time, since EW on the rocks is a quick and easy way to get drunk. But I've been trying to build a collection and actually appreciate the stuff. One bottle per paycheck, as suggested by somebody on here.

>>4986424
/ck/, I am a free man once again.

>>4993880

>>4993880
yous about to be fucked up

>>4993890
Saving that for friday when I hit the bars. Doing the whole 7am office job is a real downer for weekday hammering.

>>4993925
I cant do a little, I'ts all or nothing for me, this whole thread I'm envious of their liquor cabinets, cause I can't have a bottle of anything sit for more than a few days, and thats at the max. I'd have to be a rich man to keep a bar.

>>4993945
I used to be like that, but it's really not an option anymore. If I want my life to stay peachy like it is right now, I have to stay under control.

>>4993953
I agree, that's why I don't buy liquor anymore. At a bar I'll drink it.

>>4993956
Well, that is really the best way to go about it. Ha

Would like to hear opinions on the 12 year and how it compares to perhaps Glenfarclas.

>>4993999

>>4993999
>/r/scotch

>>4994054
What is that supposed to mean?

>>4994132
>What is that supposed to mean?

Reddit's scotch forum.

>>4994132
/r/equest scotch

>>4994237
It's actually a really good community. WAY better place to discuss scotch than /ck/ or 420chan's /hooch/. /r/bourbon is great too (it's got more or less the same mods)

>>4994292
>mods
texacer is such a narcissistic faggot

I'd kick his ass irl

>reddit
>faggots
chosse both

>>4994294
I actually like the heavy moderation there. It means we actually talk about things instead of it being wall to wall bottle porn

>>4994307
>not wanting this in your whiskey thread

>>4994356
like dis?

>>4994356
>>4994370

No. He means literally just bottles that are nice to look at. You guys are stupid.

Speaking of stupid, if reddit is so great how come everyone is talking about it on 4chan.

>>4994378
>You guys are stupid.

>>4994382
Well, you are. You never heard the phrase bottle porn before? It's not naked ladies drawn on paper or some Helena Bonham Carter looking bitch in a bad filter.

But you sure showed me, sternnewspaperman.jpg. You're my favorite deputy.

>>4994356
saged
reported
hidden
phoned moot
told your mum

>>4994389

>>4994378
>Speaking of stupid, if reddit is so great how come everyone is talking about it on 4chan.
ahahahaha Go back there son.

>>4994412

>>4994421
>implying I'm from there

Yeah, sure, okay.

It's like saying you love beef so much, while eating fish. Sorry if pointing out the irony made you think I also enjoyed beef. Though I don't see why it would.

>>4994426
>It's like saying you love beef so much, while eating fish.
Yeah...that must be it.

>>4994430
>"If you like Reddit, why are you on 4chan?"

>"If you like beef, how come you're eating fish?"

Sorry, This seems to be hurting your head. I'm sorry, I'm trying to dumb it down the best I can here.

>>4994439
>if reddit is so great how come everyone is talking about it on 4chan.
What were you trying to say here?

>>4994454
he dun goof'd

we're collectively laughing at him now

>>4994454
Not everyone made it over when they introduced tabbed browsing.

Here's a toast to those...LEFT BEHIND

>>4994454
Uh. Exactly what it says on the tin.

If reddit, the website, is so good for the discussion of scotch, then why are the people talking about reddit;

See>>4994054
>>4994237
>>4994292
>>4994294
>>4994307

on 4chan?

What exactly is the mystery here? If reddit is so good to these people, why are they here and not on reddit?

>>4994466
why did i lol?

>>4994467
Here's a novel concept for you, people can like different communities for different reasons. Maybe they post here to be entertained by retards like you, and go to reddit for other reasons.

>>4994534
>retards like me
>I had to explain an incredibly simple statement more than twice

ok

Anyone have /ck/ infograph on recomended whisk(e)y scotch and bourbon?

>favourite bourbon so far

>>4994547
Why are you calling yourself a retard?

>>4994872
No, but I can give you my personal recommendations

>Pretty much anything by Four Roses
Bulleit is actually made by the Four Roses Distillery, who then sell it to Diageo to be sold under the Bulleit brand name. So that might be a good place to start. Their Small Batch and Single Barrel expressions are fantastic, and well worth the money if you want to treat yourself to some truly great bourbon. The Yellow Label is alright too, but honestly I prefer Bulleit. Bourbon needs a higher ABV to shine, even more so than scotch, and the stuff bottled at the bare legal minimum 80 proof just falls flat 9 times out of 10.

>Buffalo Trace, Elijah Craig 12 Year, Wild Turkey 101
These three have nothing to do with each other, but they're all solid whiskies in the $18-25 range. These are my go-to, general use bourbons, nice enough to sip, but cheap enough that I don't feel bad mixing with them

>Eagle Rare Single Barrel
Made by Buffalo Trace. Just a bit more expensive than their namesake whiskey, and just a bit better. This is a great one to serve to company, since the gorgeous bottle makes it look more expensive than it is. It can be a little inconsistent, even by single barrel standards, but I've yet to get a bad bottle

>Elmer T. Lee
This is one of my all time favorites. Despite only costing $25-30, it can hold its own against bourbons that cost twice that. It has an odd, slightly sour note, almost like a chardonnay. Some people find that off putting, but it's generally regarded as a really, really great buy

I'm not a big scotch drinker, but I quite enjoy Laphroaig 10, Ardbeg 10, and Oban 14.

>>4994872
Whistle Pig

>>4994974
Honestly, I think Whistle Pig is overpriced for what it is. Don't get me wrong, it's a damn good rye, but there's plenty of stuff that's just as good and cheaper

>>4994423
neckbeard

>>4995494
You sure showed him. You know, like 11 hours later.

>>4995500
turd burgler

>>4995553
The word is burglar.

>>4994872
Yes I do in fact.
1/4 (scotch)

Also, inb4 someone inevitably goes 'hurr durr why isn't whisk(e)y X on that chart' or 'hurr durr I bought whisk(e)y Y and didn't like it, take it off'.

>>4995614
2/4, Irish whiskey.

>>4995630
3/4, rye

>>4995614
>>4995630
>>4995634
Keep'em coming, thanks!

Okay dudes, here's my conundrum:
I want to buy my sister, who is accustomed to the finer beverages in life, a fairly nice bottle of whiskey or scotch for Christmas without breaking the bank.
There are two factors that need to be taken into account:
-I have a price limit of 100$
-I need to be able to buy it at a liquor mart in Jersey City.

Any suggestions?

>>4995630
I'd add that the greenore as a single grain is more of an interesting novelty whisky than a really good one.

>>4995634
4/4, bourbon.

>>4995682
Oh wait, there's also a rum one. Might as well post that as well I suppose.
5/4, rum

>>4995614
>>4995630
>>4995634
>>4995682
>>4995692
>>4994920


YES, finally a nice easy to see recomendations list. I'm going to have a blast trying to get my hands on these drinks and try them out.
Thanks!

Especially the scotch list been meaning to try those for a while.

>>4995614
saved

Whats the story on sour mash whiskey?

My dad said one time he had a sour mash and he fell right in love. Went looking, and all I could find was jack daniels sour mash whiskey.

I'm also in a state where they cant mail alcohol to me, and stores have very limited selection. Is there any way I can get high quality booze to myself?

>>4998295
Stock up when you're somewhere you can buy it. I go to New Mexico every summer and always buy a shit ton of their cheap, cheap liquor.

Instead of a drop of water can't you just also use a drop of lemon juice?

Got a new job and going to buy myself a bottle to share with friends (<$120)

Thinking about HP18... I am a fan of HP12

For reference, I found Talisker10 to be interesting but way too peaty.

Thoughts /wsk/?

>>4998546

With $120 you could get a nice Japanese single malt. But nothing wrong with HP. It does have a little peat though. Not a ton, but some.

>>4998556

>nice
>anything to do with Japan

pick one

>>4998558

To most people Japan is one of many countries.

To some people Japan is an object of extreme obsession that sometimes turns into psychotic hatred. Kind of like when lonely creeps get obsessed with some random celebrity and then develop a desire to murder them.

You may want to find a hobby that isn't about downloading hentai. Just saying.

>>4998562

spot on with me loving hentai when i don't like anything else from japan

>go chug more yellow dick you greasy incarnation of a sad OkCupid profile

>>4998566
Why do you hate it? Why is it not a country in a world of many countries? Oh yeah, because you're a kneejerk faggot.

>being anything but indifferent to any nation
>not judging products based on their merits

>>4998566
>when i don't like anything else from japan

I really doubt that is the case. Otherwise you would not feel the urge to declare it emphatically in a thread that has nothing to do with Japan aside from the fact that there is single malt whisky that comes from there (which happens to occasionally win awards, granted by people from Scotland).

It sounds like you grew up a culturally deprived life and developed a fascination with Japan because some element of their NEET-pandering pop culture struck a chord with you.

I hope you understand this is extremely unhealthy and not a socially acceptable interest. If you save up for a year you should be able to afford a vacation there. Confront your demons so that you can move on. I know a guy who did this and, oh wait, he's still there teaching English and being useless lol. But at least he's not shitposting on the internet and derailing threads. He uses facebook for that.

>>4998569

>fangirling over a nation where they pee in the middle of the street and sell panties in vending machines
>defending said nation on a cooking board when aforementioned nation has some of the worst cuisine on the planet
>"japanese food is so good omg ur wrong"

yeah, no. you can keep your tentacles and your nori and natto beans and raw fish and rice and the rest of the miserable excuse of japanese culture

>implying wapan has any merit at all

>>4998595
>fangirling
>literally being indifferent to japan

Do you not know how to read?

>>4998597

>claims to be indifferent
>creams knickers over japanese whisky
>resorts to ad hominems about hentai and such

didn't mean to offend you, Ronnie. would some pocky make your boo boos less substantial?

>>4998610
Those aren't my posts. More than one person can call you a kneejerk faggot for hating a nation because other people might like it too much.

I literally have no opinion on Japan. It has as much bearing on my daily life as India.

>>4998610

Actually you are arguing with two separate people

Also the Japanese whisky that goes for under $100 is pretty meh. Yamazaki for example is bland as fuck. Starting over $100 it gets to be really good. If you're not prepared to spend a little more, stick with Scotland.

And please, go to bed Australia.

>>4986313
>Why rum
Some are nice and complicated in flavor. Many aren't. (Bacardi is one of the ones that it's not worth bothering with except for some recipes. I suppose you could use it if you run out of methanol.)

>>4999620
OP here, the Bacardi is just for mixing. So is the Oakheart, it's amazing with coke for chicks and guys who don't really drink otherwise.
The Ron Centenario Anejo Especial on the other hand I enjoy pure.

>>4998617
I only tried the nikka (fairly cheap), it's downright disgusting.

>>4999642
never seen that one before, looks gross.

I have tried the yoichi 15 and it was one of my favorite whiskies ever. the 20 was the one that people were making a big deal about a few years ago. never seen it IRL though.

>>4992266
Actually tried the Bulleit and didn't like it as much. Overholt is not only cheaper, it works better for me in what I use rye for.

Maybe I'll have to try Rittenhouse as soon as I'm not broke as hell.

>>5000438
Another anon here who doesn't like Bulleit. I wouldn't get the Wild Turkey unless you can find the 101. Rittenhouse 100 all the way though.

bump for potentially 1 week whisky thread.

HEY MAYBE YOU GUYS WILL KNOW!
Is there any way to rid myself of not being able to drink whiskey anymore?
When I was 17 I had a terrible hangover and vomited the whole night after finishing 1/3 handle of Jack. It was stupid but people were doing shots... Ugh.
I used to not be able to smell it, but now I can without a problem. I just still can't drink it and I'm now 23.
When I go out with friends and everyone gets to indulge in a glass of Jameson, I have to ship it and settle for something else. No whiskey shots, no nothing =/
I tried on Halloween this year and managed to keep it down for about 10 minutes before vomiting.

tl;dr I got super sick and can't drink whiskey.

Any suggestions?
inb4 man up.

>>5002684
You'll probably just grow out of it, though I know certain people that haven't drank certain types of alcohol because of a bad hangover experience for the rest of their lives.

You still have the desire to drink it even though you're disgusted by it?

Why not just drink something else?

>>4995630
the lagavulin 16 is cheaper than the 12 year old

>>5002684
Try harder, you only vomit through psychological conditioning. You "know" it is going to make you vomit, so you do.

Just buy a bottle of your preferred whisky, pour a couple fingers for yourself when you have a relaxing night at home, and enjoy it as best you can.

>>5002684
CBT?

>>5002684
get some cheap whiskey but thats ok
pour a glass and add some water
with each glass and less and less water till you can handle the whiskey
thats how i did it

My 2 boys

>>4999642
you got the wrong kind of nikka.
Also Gordon's, smirnoff and jaegermeister?
disgusting

>>4985990
>mailman left for me
Just curious, but you can't be American. No state allows sending liquor by mail, and even if they did, it'd be illegal for the mailman to just leave it on your doorstep. >>4985990

>>5008424
Oh lord I love broken Jap Engrish

>>5008521
Where's the mistake?

>>5008514
Jup, german here. You can send liquor all you want, you just have to mail them a copy of your passport/drivers licence to prove you'r 18.

>>5008424
Every german needs a jägermoasta bottle, smirnoff is enough for mixing and I already stepped up my gin game, pic related.

Also yeeeh, thread survived over a week now.

not a lot beats this for peated Whisky

>>5008766
How are their whiskys? I've tried origin, not much else.

>>5008514
What the fuck? Why?

>>5008788
US has tight alcohol laws.

>>5008806
Muh freedoms.

>>5008748
Swap that Tanq for Citadelle or Sapphire m8

>>5008934
Had a bottle of Sapp before that and I like the tanq better.

>>5008937
Sapphire has a fucking distribution problem.

If you get it from a good distributor that doesn't fuck people, keeps a smaller stock and rotates it frequently then it's one of the best Gins out there.

If you don't get it from one of these sources, it tastes like flavorless spicy horseshit, but when it's fresh it's absolutely fantastic and head and shoulders above many gins.

>>5008938
Why does that happen? What makes non-fresh sapphire taste like shit?

>>5008940
Generally how it's stored, how much it's exposed to light, etc.

Go to a local market or a bar and find a bottle that's in the dark at the back of the shelf, and snag that.

It can make a huge difference, my favorite Bourbon for regular drinking is Bulleit Bourbon, which can be watery and bland if I get it at the wrong place.

>>5008514
You can ship inside California, but yeah, it has to be signed for. (e.g. Caddell & Williams)

>>4993945
I'm totally this way. Maybe it's because I'm 22 and right out of college. I don't know the meaning of casual drinking. I drink once a week, but my golly when I do, it's an event for the ages.

>>5008806
America's alcohol laws are full retard. Then again there's a new movement in America to push back the purchase of cigarettes to 21

>>5009484
No one actually waits until they're 18 to smoke or 21 to drink.

No one actually wants 18 years old kids to be smoking.

No one actually wants anyone under 21 at the bar with them.

>>5009501
You seem to be implying there's a significant difference between 18 year olds and 21 year olds. Besides, we already allow younger kids to have even heavier responsibilities than drinking, like reproducing or volunteering for the army.

>>5009520

You voted for Obama didn't you.

>>5009520
Honestly, I think there is. 21 year olds puke and black out a lot less, and generally know their limits better.

>>5009627
No they don't but thanks for commenting.

>>5009552
Jokes on you I didn't vote at all

>>5009751
stay classy

>>5009520

>>5009773
>Stop him from experiencing puberty.
But that's not even true. Trans hormone therapy barely has long term effects on your body at all, thats why trans people have to take them constantly.

>>5009812
When taken before puberty starts, they do prevent the development of masculine features. Look at pics of all the others that have gone through it now.

>>5009773

Having a trans child is hard on any parent, gay or straight. You just want to do right by your kid.

>>5009501

I'm 43 years old and anyone under the age of 30 is a fucking kid. There is no difference between being 18 and 21. You're still a shitbag.

>>5009832
Tru dat

>>5009834
Sometimes I think older people are just better at hiding their shitbaggishness.

>>5009834
I'm 25 and I made that comment. I still remember high school and there is a difference. Anyone over 40 is an old bastard

>>5009832
>Trans
>Straight

Yeah....

>>5009841
Coming from someone in their late thirties I think they're just more refined in their douchebaggery. A lot if people figure it our by twenty five or so and drop the asshole routine. Those who stick with it though, well they take asshole to a whole new level.

>>4988841
Fact: Old Overholt makes the best sazerac

OP here, tried the Old Pulteney yesterday.
I expected something less peaty than ard but still smokeish, but instead I got a really complex, almost spicy-salty flavour! Not like anything I tried before, I like.

>>5011085
I was like what the fuck are you talking about, then realised I was reading the wrong thread

>>5011087
I your defense, my recent post and the first are one and a half weeks away.

>>5009834
I'm 35 and I agree.

>>5011241
I'm 33 still think I;m a kid, and don;t know where the fucking time went

>>5011524
>I'm 33 still think I;m a kid, and don;t know where the fucking time went
Life. Or plenty of good whisky.

>>5012392
Oh god, I do drink a lot.

>>5012442
I drink like a liter of whisky every 2 weeks

>>5012935
I stick with beer pretty much, but I did drink a pint of Jack Daniels yesterday. Whatever man, I'd hang out with you.

OP here...
As I was going through some old pictures of mine I found my first pic of my bar. Nice to see where I started... with irish whiskeys.

Cardhu is crap, now. I used to drink it by the case. Then the Japs bought it up to use as the base for Johnny Walker. Who in their right fucking mind takes one of the greatest single malts known to mankind and uses it to make blended crap? Apparently, the Japs. When they reintroduced it, I thought I'd died and gone to heaven. I bought 4 bottles of it thinking it was my much beloved nectar of the gods. It tasted like Johnny Fucking Walker. Since then, I've been drinking Glenmorangie 12 yo port wood finish AKA the Quinta Ruban. I've tried about 40 different brands. Thus far, my fav.

>>5012935
That's not that much...
I drank half a bottle of gin and a whole bottle of rum in the last 10 days- only a few drinks a night.

>>5012935
>>5013603

you guys are making me feel bad.

i drink 16 fluid ounces of vodka A DAY. and i've been doing so for 10 days straight.

i need help. i'm killing myself.

>>5013616
That shit will kill you too, watch that intervention on the vodka kid, he died in rehab.

>>5013616

call your mom dude

>>5013593
A friend of a friend once brought a Cardhu over. I still have it since I never feel like drinking it.

>>5013970
>>5013593
OP here, I just tried the Cardhu again. After the disappointment the first time I found it better now (I wasn't in a good mood before and was still sick) but still, it's nothing special. It's smooth and sweeter than most scotches but behind that, not really a character.

I think I'll have another glass of the Pulteney which is really good before I go see the Hobbit Double Feature tonight.

>>5013616
I was going through a half gallon every 2 days for a long time.

Bump for 2 week thread.

>>5013625
fucking rekt

>>5014000
he is way to old to play the baggins
kills the whole movie imho

>>4985990
anyone know any good bourbon that doesnt have rye in the mashbill?

scotch is my spirit of choice but its getting so fucking expensive these days that im branching out. problem is, all the bourbon i ve tried has that cloying cherry sweetness that ive come to associate with ryes. need something a bit more honeyish like a nice speysider or wheaty.

>>5015765
>>5015765
>Too old to play bilbo
>Bilbo is 50 years old when he begins his adventure
Pick one.

Also it was not bad... the barrel ride was way over the top but funny as hell.

>>5016265
Yeah but isn't 50 young for a hobbit don;t they live like 200 years or something?

Forget the whiskey thread, you need to replace that Gordon's Gin.

That shit is feral. Get yourself some Tanq, or Bombay (friends of mine prefer Bombay but I'll always favour the Tanquerays)

>>5013585
LOL wow you've come a long way

>>5016273
Read the thread:
>>5008748

>>5015977
I personally don't associate rye with cloyingness; in fact I prefer rye to bourbon because bourbons are generally too sweet. So consider that maybe you're tasting the corn?

>>5015977
>all the bourbon i ve tried has that cloying cherry sweetness that ive come to associate with ryes

Uh, that's the corn. Corn provides sweetness, bourbon contains corn, in fact a majority corn, by definition. If you don't like that, you don't like bourbon.

Try Stranahan's from Colorado, it's probably closer to what you're looking for. There are more American whiskies than just bourbon.

>>5016331
>Uh, that's the corn. Corn provides sweetness, bourbon contains corn, in fact a majority corn, by definition. If you don't like that, you don't like bourbon.
Of course something American has corn in it.

>>5016335
As a life long American (Wisconsin FUCK YEAH) I find your post personally offensive. You know you're on an American website? I would like for you to learn to respect your hosts before you act insulting. Bourbon is far superior to anything europe has ever made. We took european recipes and improved them. Same for the cheese and beer. Deal with it europe.

>>5016338
>You know you're on an American website?

>>5016338
>Same for the cheese
lol no.

Also, the existence and popularity of Velveeta and other cheese analogs makes us lose the Cheese Battle automatically.

>>5016338
>Wisconsin
Home of cheese made with milk from corn-fed, antibiotic-laden, BGH-treated cows.

>>5016338
Call me when your Federal Government doesn't stamp down on non-pasteurized goods.

Also, you're not the host of this website. Stop acting like an asshole.

>>5016355
>Call me when your Federal Government doesn't stamp down on non-pasteurized goods.
This.

In 12 years 826 people have gotten ill and 7 people have died from outbreaks associated with raw milk consumption. In all of North America.

It's estimated that 10,000,000 Americans regularly drink raw milk.

~1 person dies every other year in N. America from raw milk. Salmonella kills 500 a year in America.

Even if you extrapolate the numbers (i.e.: assume everyone starts drinking raw milk) it doesn't add up.

CLOSE. ALL. BORDERS.

>>5016331
>Uh, that's the corn.

ive had a dozen straight ryes and its the exact same note, albeit subdued in the bourbon. maybe i just have a fucked up palette

>>5016338

Yea we improved some things, but we fucked up 90% of the time. For example, American Cheese isn't even classified as a cheese in some palces because it's so processed.

>>5016526
It can't be sold as cheese here in America either, it's "cheese product" or "processed cheese". Real American cheese used to be just a mix of other different cheeses anyway and was actually fucking cheese.

>>4985990
>Elijah Craig
My nigger. Best value whiskey I've ever had.

Just bought a 750mL bottle of this. I'm fully expecting it to be horrible, but it's only $18, so I can't be too disappointed.

>>5016470
Which ryes? LDI ryes?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cVWrt2dCE8

>>5017820
Sazerac Rye, Whistle Pig, Alberta Premium, Bulleit Rye, overholt just to name a few. Mostly had them in bars, but I've purchased bottles of AP and Bulleit which are purported to be 100% rye, and yea, its got that note that I just can't stand.

But I've been doing some investigative work with my bottle of buffalo trace, and I was wrong, its not the rye, its the new oak casks that are used for most NA whiskeys - corn or rye or otherwise. fucking VANILLA.

so, let me reword my request. anyone know any bourbon that has a less vanilla-y profile? or is it just endemic to the style?

>>5018415
I think it's gonna be hard to avoid. Have you tried Eagle Rare?

Noice, 2 weeks thread.

Have my delicious bavarian single malts for that.
The lighter one it their 3yo, it's very fresh with a present but soft grainy taste and a fruity smell.
The darker one is their pedro ximenez sherry cask (the other's newamerican oak casks), haven't opened it yet. I'm waiting for a special occasion with that one.

Hey /ck/,

What types of whiskey would you suggest with cigars or cigarettes

>>5020765
Any whiskey you like. There's a saying that smokers like peated whiskys more but that's very simplifying..

>>4985990
Tfw no qt3.14 mailman to leave you booze

I bought a bottle of this stuff and really liked it. Had sort of a chewy, bready texture to it that gets even better when mixed with other whiskey. Can anybody recommend me some other wheat mash whiskey?

>>5021871
Do I even waht to know what that shit is?

>>5022241

I've never seen that before, but it appears to be bourbon with a high proportion of wheat, and no barrel aging.

For them it probably also means no added color, since (I'm guessing) your average whiskey is browner than it ought to be, on account of the caramel color which makes it look more appealing in the glass.

>>5022241
Unaged/oaked bourbon. They call the combination of grains used to make whisk(e)ys a mash, so this one has wheat (as the secondary grain, since bourbon needs at least 50% corn in the mash and it's usually more, plus there's likely a bit of rye in there too, so "wheated" just means more wheat than rye but doesn't give you any real insight beyond that).

>>5022249
>I'm guessing
Wrongly. Bourbon can't legally be called "straight bourbon" if it has added coloring agents. Unless you're getting the cheapest bourbon in the store, the color comes from being oaked.

>>5022249
>>5022254
And they aren't allowed to call it "Whiskey" without the 3yr aging.

>>5022260

Interesting. Bourbon: 1, Scotch: 0.

>>5022254
>>5022260

What I was asking was for any *aged* whiskey that is heavily wheated. I like what it does to the character.

>>5022430
I'm fond of rye mash bills, so yeah... but Maker's Mark is probably the most popular wheated bourbon. Assuming you're looking for wheated bourbon and not wheated whiskey, which could be up to 100% wheat (Bernheim is interesting if that's what you're looking for).

>>5022430
>>5022448
Oh, or you could just check this list. Which may or may not be comprehensive, but still. It's a start.

http://www.libationlab.com/wheated-bourbon/

>>5022448
Doesn't have to even be bourbon, just whiskey where the wheat shines through. I'll take a look at that Bernheim.

>>5022489
Though they're often sold/talked about as "rye," the big name Canadian (so Canada Club, Crown Royal, and Wisers) whiskeys have a big wheat component . They used to actually be rye whiskey, but wheat appeals to the average drinker more than rye, and unless it's sold as "rye whiskey" almost all "Canadian rye" has a far heavier wheat component than most would expect.

>>5022524
Okay, I just went to the bottle shop for some Bernheim. It's nice, but not quite worth the $50 I shelled out for it. I think from now on I'm just going to blend my own whiskey using that White Dog.

>>5022524
canadian whisky makers can (and always do) add a fuck ton of neutral grain spirit to their stuff POST distillation. and it can still be legally called 'canadian whisky'.

its why our shit is fucking terrible and is generally ridiculed in whisky circles ;_;

>>5023630
lel canadians.
I just realized... Canadians aren't ridiculed very often on 4chun.

>>5023968
We probably make fun of ourselves more often.

>>5023630
There's a move towards some good stuff lately. The 40 Creek stuff, or Lot 40, or Dark Horse (though that one still takes advantage of the "add shit" angle by being 95% rye and 5% unlisted cognac added after the fact). Plus the upper shelf standards like Century Reserve 21 or Wisers Legacy usually won't have neutral spirit added. But yes, most of the name brand stuff is terrible and rightly derided for many reasons, including that.

winter in New England has inspired me to start drinking hot toddies. I take mine with 1 medium lemon slice and a cinnamon stick, plenty of honey.

what whiskey do you recommend for hot toddies?

how trashy am i if my favorite scotch is J&B

i can drink that shit straight out of the bottle for days, man

>>5024251
Haven't tried something like that yet, but in general for mixing I'll take moderately priced bourbon.

>>5024273
Is it your favourite scotch BECAUSE you can drink it straight? Then your requirements to whiskey are very low.

>>5024281
no, it's because i actually really like the taste and it isn't just fire water, but it leaves your belly nice and toasty

>>5024284
>it isn't just fire water
None of the whiskeys posted here are.
If you are fine with what you're doing, by all means continue. If you want to discover the world of whiskeys, try some single malts other than J&B blend.

>>5024292
i'm not trying to say i haven't tried others, for example pig's nose scotch is pretty super good too, and i've had talisker and whatever

it's just that's my go to bottle

>>5024276
I'll give that a whirl!

I'm curious to see what my father gets me for Christmas, I told him to get me something from duty free, either Auchentoshan or anything cask strength. Last time he gave me a 1 liter bottle of Talisker 10yo, pretty good for someone who doesn't drink whiskey himself.

>>5024251
storebrand shit.

>>5024455
Noice, Auchentoshan is pretty neat. Did you tell him your expectations though?

>>5024251
Why not fireball, JD and Jim Beam have honey whiskeys too, I bet those would be perfect.

>>5024585
The jim beam honey is pigdisgusting, just a heads up.

>>5024251

>>4995634
no Knob Creek rye?
I enjoyed it more than Bulliet's

>>5024594

Noooooo..... Get it awayyyyyyy

>>5025013
That stuff is good, whats wrong?

>>5025036
it's the sriracha of booze

>>5025037
Oh. You're one of those people.

Good luck with that.

>>5025037
Shit I'd drink siracha booze

>>5025114

>>4985990
This is the thread that never ends. It just goes on and on my friends.

>>5027407
True... and it's remarkably civilised for whiskey thread standards.

>>5027429
Laphroaig was mentioned only twice and Islay once. The neckbeards seem to be intimidated by all the stuff they haven't heard of.

>>5024251
I just use Yukon Jack. 100 proof and the sugar's already in it. It's on sale for $8 so why use good bourbon?

>>5027384
>>5025055

What is it cool to not like siracha now?

>>5027498
>>5027384 here, I didn't hate on sriracha but on sriracha booze. Some things are just not necessary.

Should I /ck/?

>>5028402
bmp

Anyone recommend anything thats similar to the Glenviet 12 year?

>>5031423
Horse urine, although if you want something that is subtly complex I recommend blending it with Evian.

>>4986477
I would thoroughly reccomend Auchentoshan single malt. It's rather sweet, doesn't need water but opens up wonderfully if you do. Different experience both ways. It's fantastic.

>>5031639
and scotch snobs wonder why they are so hated. even worse attitude than wine snobs

>Drinking any kind of booze for any other reason than to get shit face drunk.

I am who I am

>>5033700
Not a problem with that as long as you accept there are other ways too.

Let's get the three weeks full here guys!

not really whiskey but somewhat related, say someone who hasn't had a sip of alcohol before wants his first drink soon, what would you guys recommend?

I won't get into why I waited until a few months after my 21st, so don't ask about that.

>>5034359
Start with smooth unpeated inexpensive whiskeys (this list is actually a good start for that >>4986477).

Other that that: Mass produced beer (to get used to the taste without being bombed by flavours) and mixed drinks like cuba libre or gin tonic.

>>5034359
I would drink an Anchor Steam, personally.

>>5034359
Go big.
Don't get cheap shit, never get cheap shit.

>>5034851
cheap =/= inexpensive I hope.

>>5035898
pretty much, but don't pass up a sale on something good.