/ck/ - Food & Cooking

I quit smoking about 8 years ago but there's always some no self control straightedge who gets butthurt about these threads so I fully support your efforts, op. Have a pack of Treasurers.

Discuss it on 420chan, tobacco is not food.
Luckies are delicious though.

/fa/ sometimes discusses them, but it's usually more about how to look cool smoking, or how to use them to lose weight.

Ya we have tobacco threads all the time.

When I smoked, Camel was my go-to.

>>4966371
>How to look cool smoking

What do they discuss, like different poses and expressions to make?

I just recently started smoking a pipe, it tastes SO much better and is much more satisfying and relaxing. Definitely my new lifelong hobby.

>>4966361
Tobacco is not food.

Luckies are my favorite cigarette, but the only place I can find em anymore is a gas station that absolutely gouges you on em. feelsbadman

how much do cigarettes cost for everyone? here in the UK marlboros are £9 ($15) for 20, i opt for chesterfields which are only £7.70 something (about $12/13?) when i can afford them


but right now im rolling cigarettes because its cheaper and smells less gross
i smoke indoors right now though, while i'm between jobs, so the smell does kinda matter. i don't like smoking straight in the house, the smell permeates everything.

has anyone else smoked marlboro brightleaf? they're delicious, but they're kind of a punch in the chest.

The official board for this is the /k/ ATF threads

>>4966462
/k/ was a good board in like 2007

nowadays it's just the next Adam Lanza, the board.

I take back what I said about being gouged on my luckies. They only cost me 7 bucks for 20

>>4966445
>$15 for a pack of Marlboros

I'm fucking speechless

about 6 american dollars and some change per pack or 2 packs of marlboro or camels for 11 dollars and menthol newports are 9 american dollars for a pack of 20

>>4966361
If this board was 100% food service professionals, then yes it absolutely would be the place to come talk about tobacco

I'm a smoker, and I do not understand smoking threads and never have. You smoke cigarettes? Wow, who cares. There's only two types of cigs: menthol and regs. No one gives a fuck what brand you smoke and you're basically buying into the tobacco companies' marketing and giving them free ads.

>>4966539
haha, i took up smoking when i worked in a kitchen just so i had a reason to go outside every other hour.

>>4966390

>lifelong

More like lifeshort amirite

I go to the Indian reserve and buy bags of 200 smokes for seven dollars.

>>4966578
you're obviously a pleb. i just bought some good tobacco for ice cream and it smells so much better than shit marlboro. get on my level, nerd.

>2013
>smoking

>>4966642
my buddys step dad used to sell those bags out in the oilfield for like 50 bucks each, never though id see these posted here.
brings back memories of wandering around all night drunk during the summer when i was 17.
fuck those smokes are nasty but so cheap compared to 13bucks a 20 pack.

>>4966390
You look like an utter mong smoking a pipe if you're not in your mid 40s at least.

>>4966644
Oh please, I smoke Dunhills. Do you give a shit? No, and neither do I.

Discuss it with your pediatrician faggot

Camel Turkish Royals.

>>4966390
dear god please tell me you're not smoking it in public

>>4966390

>>4966794
>dunhills
>classy
nope. try nat shermans fagt

Who the fuck still smokes? Its a hassle for the addicts and now the normal people vastly outnumber the addicts so everyone hates you because you stink all the time. The only people I know of that still smoke are old people who get a pass because everyone knows they won't have to deal with them much longer because of the cancer and all.

>>4966390
>Definitely my new lifelong hobby
I'm sorry.

I usually smoke rollies because they're cheaper, Drum Blue or Port Royal but when I buy a pack I buy Marlboro Reds or Camel Filters.

If I'm overseas (Australia) I'll buy Lucky Strikes.

Pipe smoking and cigars are pretty nice as well.

>>4966361
/k/ discusses tobacco quite often. Once a day at least.

>>4967021
Oh right, I forgot you're a tobacco connoisseur and a real classy (fuck's sake) gentleman who likes to brag on the internet about smoking. Fuck off, you retarded tween piece of shit. You are worse than the children who post pot threads.

>>4967034
pretty much every blue collar job has people that still smoke
i smoke because i like it

>>4967091
Who's the angry child? Tell mommy to up your dosage, you angsty fuck.

>pic related

>>4967148
>I'm retarded

>>4966501
In the UK it seems to be a bit worse but yeah, the conversion rate doesn't help on cigs at all. I'm on Study Abroad in the Netherlands right now. I used to smoke Marlboro Blacks (red). Since I came here a few months ago I learned how to roll my own. A pack of Marlboro Reds here is 6 Euros. I can get the rolling tobacco for 4 (a pouch is 2-3 packs worth for me), 50 rolling papers is 25 cents, and 120 filters is like 50 or 75 cents.

i miss you ;_;

>>4966642

where do i buy this

i want it

>>4966642
how can someone smoke all those without having them dry out first? it'd take me like 20 days to finish them

>>4967091
>i smoke dunhills
>fuck off piece of shit

Camel Lights

All day, err day

>>4966642
yeah but they taste like ass
>>4966445
here in canada they range from anywhere between $8-$15, though most people pay aroiund $10 on average for a pack

When I used to smoke I smoked Marlboro 27's most of the time. Sometimes I got reds and sometimes I got menthols but it was usually Marlboro. It was like $5 a pack in California. I think I bought a pack of pal malls 5 months ago when I was wasted (that was the cheapest pack at 7-11). I've smoked 7 or so of them but I left them at my parent's house.

>>4969338
Did moot eat your picture?

>>4966445
~$5 a pack of 20.

>>4966361
Sup buddy. I'm going to be planting some Greenwood Dark tobacco in the spring to offset the cost of my (gasp) smokeless tobacco habit. Need to cruise the yard sales for an old crock pot to use in my curing chamber.

My God I love these things.

Nicotine is a hell of an appetite suppressant, until your liver runs out of glycogen, then you crash unbelievably hard.

I'm black and therefore obligated to smoke these in between blunts and 40s

Smoking is a once in a while thing. They're so expensive for something that only lasts a few minutes.
My brand is over $6.00 now. I can get drunk for less than that.

>>4969890
Hell yeah. That combined with purging got me 10 pounds underweight. Best I ever looked. Now I'm at least 20 pounds more than I'd like because I causes myself a bad potassium deficiency and end up sleeping a lot.
Recently started smoking again and I'm down about 10 pounds. Marlboro 27 is my fave.

>>4969906
well best way to "discourage" addicts is to tax

which is weird since we havent done that to super fatty foods yet, or video games

>>4969916
We need more tax on caffeinated drinks. Coffee and soda are the big offenders.

In honor of this thread I just went out and bought a can of Grizzly Wintergreen Fine Cut, my first in several weeks. I swear, my little ritual of packing the can and getting the perfect pinch is almost as much fun as the nicotine satisfaction.

>>4969916
>>4969920

and don't forget candy, red meat, foul language, and unprotected sex for reasons other than procreation too!

Soon, you'll be going to the bathroom and using the 3 seashells.

>>4970075
I'll die in hell before I give up red meat, foul language and unprotected sex.

Oh, and my guns. And my cast iron pans.

>>4966361

I've not smoked a cigarette since Wednesday/Thursday. Starting to want one.

Paycheck didn't get processed Friday as usual, that means I'll get my pay Tuesday at 3:00AM at best.

smoking pipes is actually nice unless you're doing it in public while being under 65. dear god please don't. But I love to smoke pipes at hom, there is a huge variety of tobaccos and they taste much better than cigarettes.

I never smoked until I was about 18.

I never really got into smoking but I quit after only about a year or less. I just knew it was harming my body and shit, even though I do enjoy it.

Now I only really smoke at parties or when I'm drinking. Which isn't often.

Is there any downsides to no-nicotin ecigarettes? From my understanding, it's just water vapor; so what else is in it?

>>4970091
YEAH! AND READING IS FOR FAGGOTS!!!!!1!

>>4966361
>tfw I've always wanted to try lucky strikes, but I've never seen them in my area

>>4970932
I've only ever seen them in Europe.

I quit smoking and just dip. It's cheaper and probably marginally better for your health. Also, you can dip pretty much anywhere and people don't notice it much.

>>4966361

>>4970499

even the ones with nicotine aren't bad for you as far as we know

>>4966445
expensive as fuck

in scotland you'd pay £8.20 for a 20 deck of marlboros (still ridiculous) but chesterfields are around £6.

Shop around because the prices of cigarettes changes between supermarkets/corner shops etc.

>>4966445
Aussie here

Havent smoked in a while but when I did they were $15-20au for a pack of 25

How long do cigs keep? I have 10 packs of 20 stocked up somewhere which i bought when i was overseas. $1 a pack lol.

I pretty much quit when I got back. After seeing cigs for $1 i just couldnt justify spending $15-20 a pack.

>>4971248
He's dead, Jim.

>>4966361
Some days, a pipe full of cavendish is just about the best dessert there is.

>>4966445
in austria
packs of 20 go for 4€ to around 5€
I mainly roll my own
1.20€ for some black OCBs
~1€ for some zigzag filters
4.50€ for some pueblo

>>4971333
scots and english supermarkets run different taxes on things, don't they? and yeah, i'm in a weird little part of nowhere and i know our corner shop and co-op jack up the prices but i can't drive so i'm kinda stuck with what's nearby

God I miss smoking cheap pipe tobacco on a strong H high. I'd smoke a few cigarettes on a weak bundle of H, then I'd puke so hard that I's swear never to do drugs again. Cigs never failed to kick in the high like a bad hangover. GOD I love East Coast dope.

>>4971713
Tell us about World War 2, Gramps.

>>4972396
>black OCBs
best rolling paper

>>4972815
>>4971713
lol

>>4970499
>>4971322
Yeah there have been no long term studies that I know of yet. But personally I smoked for about 5-6 years, was up to a pack a day until I quit analogs about a month ago.

I have been using a decent starter kit for e-cigs and yeah havent smoked yet. Delish flavours of your choice, even tobacco flavours if you want. Can't stand analogs anymore, mouth tastes like an ashtray.

>>4966361
http://boards.420chan.org/smoke/

A carton of 20 cigs costs around 7 bux here.
Domestic brands though, I don't even really know what Marlboro and Camel cost, also I heard they were for fags and bitches, respectively.

>>4966361
Tried some gauloises rolling tobacco on a recent trip to France. Fucking delicious, but I'm thinking of making the switch to e-cigs. Any recommendations?

>>4966495

/k/ommando here with a passion for food. it has its moments

>Run a convenience store in MO
>2.89 for a pack of Pall Malls. After tax.
>.17 cents tobacco tax
>Our most expensive shit, obscure brands we buy in a small enough volume the vendors don't give a discount are 6.18 a pack after tax.
>STILL have people bitch about the price of smokes.
Jesus christ.

God I miss smoking. I gave up because I can barely leave the house right now. Also it is probably better for me. But I miss it. I haven't met or talked to a smoker in a long long time, it sucks.

>>4966390

>looking cool
>smoking a pipe

might as well smoke cocks, it nets you the same amount of hipster street cred and at least it's healthier for you

protip: if you don't look cool already, smoking won't change that

>>4977117
Not true. Smoking changed my life and it could change yours too.

>>4977121

let me guess, you made friends with people who smoked too. doesnt mean you looked cool doing it faggot.

>>4969916

you have no idea how addiction works, do you?

>>4977128
Bitch, I look so cool smoking they call me the 'Industrial Air Conditioner'. I'm so cool everyone within a 2km radius nipple's harden when I light up.

>>4970075

>not knowing how to use the seashells

>>4977149
There will be a limit beyond which people will be able to smoke, but it's a lot higher than anyone has dared to try. Mostly because governments are more interested in maximising tax revenue than actually putting people off smoking.

Try charging $50 a cigarette. I bet that'd cure a lot of addictions pretty fast.

>>4970932
they're nothing special and cost like $8 a pack. Then again, I guess that could be said about a lot of cigarettes. I just buy whatever looks the coolest

>>4970499
>>4971322

e-cigs are too new for people to fully understand their effects yet. Long-term studies of their effects on the body can't yet be done, and they've been rapidly pushed out the general public with very little regulation or research.

Most people who use them say that they can actually contribute to addiction and make it harder for them to quit a nicotine habit. Pair that with the prohibitive cost of e-cigs and normal cigs become a cheap fallback for the nicotine fix in most counties. The cheaper e-cigs also have a tendency to violently explode.

I had the same addiction problem with them, and e-cigs also caused me to cough and wheeze to the point I couldn't breathe, all the time. I kind of dislike how there's no last-drag conclusion or area restrictions on e-cigs, it made me just puff on it all day and get way more nicotine than i could from a few regular cigs.

If you take a look at the sticky, smelly, viscous liquid inside an e-cig cartridge, it's hard to imagine that it's completely innocuous converting that shit into vapor and inhaling it.

The most common argument in their favor is that whatever it is, it has to be better than the thousands of carcinogens and chemicals inside paper cigarettes that are well known and proven to cause serious damage to your body.

>>4972408
I live on the East Coast. There are so many junkies it's unbelievable.

>>4977164

People still buy cigarettes in Chicago, New York, and London, which are all charging literally five to ten times more than they did just a few years ago. When you're addicted to something, you don't care about the cost, you just pay it. This is why crackheads shank innocent people for 5 dollars.

All your retarded "raise taxes even more" plan will do is cause the $50/cig locale's cigarettes to get priced out by an extremely accessible black market. Learn to economics.

>>4977216
I'm not suggesting anything. Just saying that in a vacuum, $50 per cig would outprice a lot of people. I even say that tax revenue is obviously the most important thing in regulation and make no attempt to portray any stance in a positive light.

>>4967100
Also any job where you can get cigarette breaks that aren't just cutting into your actual breaks. Bunch of people I worked with picked up smoking when I was working at a McDonald's in high school because you could get out of the kitchen more or use the cigarettes as an excuse to go use smoke other things in their cars.

>>4966390
Ex /fa/shionista here.
They primarily discuss whether or not smoking is cool, and the general conclusion is that what's cool is doing what you enjoy because you enjoy it, rather than because /fa/ says it's cool.
Fairly reasonable, really.

>>4966361
4chan in general doesn't have a board that's perfect for tobacco.
/b/ is technically where it should go, but I understand wanting to avoid that...
otherwise, it's just a sort of side-show. /k/ has ATF threads (post/discuss alcohol, tobacco and firearms), /pol/ has diatribes about the "nicotianated jew" and smoking crops up elsewhere from time to time at random (see: your thread).

Seriously, 4chan will always discuss it in the greater context of the board (i.e. /k/ will tell you the most operator-tier chewing tobacco or smoke, /pol/ will discuss what effects tobacco has on society, and somewhere like /x/ would discuss something like "what do you smoke when you read creepypasta", and /g/ would talk about e-cigs) To get an 100% tobacco-only discussion, I'd suggest 420chan's tobacco board.

>>4967265
Indian Res

>>4977197
>e-cigs are too new for people to fully understand their effects yet...

Accurate, agreed.

>Most people who use them say...

Nope. Go to any online e-cig community and see how many people support this claim. The limited studies we have, paired with our understanding of how the body absorbs nicotine, suggest that e-cigs are actually an extremely poor nicotine delivery system compared to traditional cigarettes. The particulates of the vapor are simply to big compared to smoke to be readily absorbed via the lungs. Nicotine absorption from e-cigs occurs primarily through the mucus glands in the mouth and sinuses. Blood tests conducted on people new to e-cigs have shown many absorb little to no nicotine.

>Pair that with the prohibitive cost of e-cigs...

While e-cigs do often require a high initial expense when buying the rechargeable batteries, chargers, etc., bottles of the refill liquid are significantly cheaper than traditional cigarettes, depending on your location. I smoked about a pack a day at ~$7 USD. A 30 ml bottle of liquid costs about ~$16 and lasts me about two weeks. I will give you that my experience is limited to the US so other countries may be completely different.

>The cheaper e-cigs also have a tendency to violently explode.

Unfortunately true. The smaller disposable types are more likely to deform, particularly if left in a hot car but exploding does happen. To any considering switching to e-cigs, please avoid knock-offs and stick to reputable manufacturers.

>...e-cigs caused me to cough and wheeze...

That is terrible. Perhaps you suffer from an allergy or intolerance to propylene glycol (a major component of many liquids) which is fairly common. Vegetable glycerin based alternatives are available.

(continued)

>>4978024
>Accurate, agreed.
It's much better than smoking just by the virtue of how terrible combustion is for you. Of course it has risks (oxygen is the main carcinogen) and yes, probably a slight carcinogen. But just by virtue of not being smoking it already is a fuck load healthier.

>>4966361

A cigarette after a big, fatty, meaty meal, is the best damn dessert you will ever have...

>>4978024

(continued)

>if you look at the...liquid...it's hard to imagine that it's completely innocuous...

Very true and I doubt you'll find many e-cig proponents who claim otherwise. But we know what that liquid contains. Propylene glycol, which is commonly found in many consumables such as tooth paste and pharmaceuticals, is a component in fog machines and therefore has been inhaled indirectly for years by many people, and is used to sterilize air circulation systems in hospitals and other "clean" environments. Vegetable glycerin, used in many food products, particularly confections. Nicotine, a stimulant proven to be no more harmful or addictive than caffeine. Food grade flavorings, often all natural if you know your liquid vendor although artificial flavorings are common.

We still don't really know what Marlboro puts in their cigarettes.

>The most common argument in their favor...

Many people find it extremely difficult to quit and have failed many times trying with the available therapies. E-cigs are NOT necessarily safe. However, what we know suggests they are less harmful alternative. Harm reduction is what the vast majority of e-cig supporters are all about.

>>4967034
I'm more curious on how decides to start smoking for the first time in this day and age. You'd think with all the information about them fucking up your throat and lungs people would not even touch them.

>>4978082
Do you drink alcohol? Well alright then, I smoke cigarettes.

Do you really find it that hard to understand that many, many people do unhealthy things all day? I mean I don't understand why we do it, we all know these things are bad for our health, but we do it anyways.

A friend of mine got picked up by the popo because he was smuggling cigarettes from virginia into new jersey and was making something like 30,000 dollars a weekend.

>>4978167
When taxes on a commodity become overly onerous, illicit trade will inevitably follow. So now instead of supporting schools and roads in addition to the farmers, you are supporting domestic terrorists and organized crime in addition to the farmers. Think on that before you vote for another tobacco tax increase.

>>4978227
The great thing is, unless said commodity is prohibited, the consumer is none the wiser. All they see is that they saved a nickle on a pack of smokes.

>>4978082
Humans do unhealthy things for enjoyment.
More news at eleven!

>>4966361

I think I smoked two cigarettes during the last week. I went out and got a pack earlier. It's no big deal.

I quit smoking and started smoking many times.

>>4966614
>>4966539
Which I find ironic, if not incidental, since smoking dulls your gustation. I guess it beats having to taste your own shit everyday.

>>4966395
http://claudiofood.com/ss1.pl?SKU=26433&method=perfect&tp=tp2

>>4978487

Smoking kills taste buds but it is one hell of a way to calm your nerves.

>>4978531
Not really. You just calm down to no-smoker level.

4chan BADLY needs a /med/ board but they are all "go to 420chan" even if I want to discuss legitimate medical issues and medications and pharmacology. I suspect moot or one of his main mods are super against substance use.

Terrible smoker here. Been off work and rather depressed for 2 years now - Goin' back next week and will have to stop chainsmoking for the first time in that long (tis a good thing). I know it's a stupid habit, but I'm in this shit and my willpower is fucking DREADFUL.

I'm in Australia and I smoke Champion Blue rolling tobacco.

We've had some pretty big laws passed in the last few years tobacoo wise.

No advertising on tv/sports happened ages ago, and the tax goes up by miles every year, but the last two were

1) No longer allowed to refer to 'strength' in the title, no mild, extra mild, strong. Honestly sucks for consumers as any colour assigned is independent for the most part and not necessarily indicative of the strength. Sure, strength =/= equal healthiness, but be damned if smoking Champion Gold for a day doesn't have me coughing up a storm compared to smoking Champion blue. Green is generally menthol across all brands though.

Last big law was generic packaging for all brands and removing from shown spaces in stores. Everything comes in a generic copper packet and the tobacco cupboard has a door.

Is it a bad thing? Naw, not for the kids. But its an inconvenience to those of us that have made our choices and pay more tax than we'll ever see in health care if we get sick from our habits.

You discuss it on /b/, check the catalogue and you'll find a tobacco/smokers thread.

Its also a shitty habit that kills family members and ruins other family members evenings

>>4978554
I think it's more a matter of pragmatism. You can argue the defense of 4chan as a bastion of freedom or whatever, but the fact is, Moot is super uncomfortable with anything criminal, especially of the sort which gets you hounded by obsessive prosecutors.

So, copyright infringement is generally ignored or tolerated, but shit like CP and Drugs? the shit that will get your home raided by jackboot thugs, your dog shot, and everything you own confiscated as "criminal proceeds?" That he steers far clear from.

All it takes is some Narc posing as anon talking to some insufficiently paranoid idiot, they set up a drug deal in a "POT GENERAL" sticky on the front page, and all of a sudden, Moot is facing criminal charges for allowing it to happen on his servers.

So, I might not agree with it. But I get it.

>>4979471
/b/'s cigarette threads are what 'battlestation' threads are to /g/ /v/ and /b/. People just showing pictures of their e-cigs.

It's a consumable like alcohol and cigar threads - and it's also very much linked to pleasure like food or booze. They're no threat of shitting up the board as badly as Ramen (sorry - instant noodle) threads. Hide and move on.

>>4979477
Agreed. Muchies threads, go ahead for pure disgusting laughs but keep it legal

>>4966361
Luckies were bomb until FSC happened. Roll your Own if you want good smokes

>>4978227
I get organised crime, but domestic terrorists? And the taxes were paid in Viriginia.

>>4966390
>my new lifelong hobby
thats a funny way to say addiction

>>4979973
Pipes don't addict quite the same as cigarettes do. I don't know how or why, but using a pipe has never given me any impulsive urge or craving that cigarette smokers have described to me. Which is not to say that it's any good for you, of course.

>>4966776
>OILFIELD

ALBERTABRO?

Currently smoking on my hookah, enjoying a nice mix of cinnamon and clove.

>>4978554
/b/ exists

/b/ is the board you're looking for

>>4980854
Northeastern BC

>>4978554
I use /fit/

It was "Health and Fitness" but i think it's just /fit/ now.

no. otay. my parents were born in '21 and '23. I was a late baby. born in '60. the early packs of lucky's in fine print said lsfmt. lucky strike means fine tobacco. lsmft. lets screw my fingers tired. I will tell you this, smokes be it ciggarettes, dip,a fine cigar or " the occasional" smoker does not exist. nicotine is more than heroin. and not going to hell because I smoke. but hard to give up. a nasty ugly and costly habit. all the commercials on tv aside. if you haven't started don't.

>2013
>not growing your own tobacco

Beautiful plants, a pack of seeds costs 2 Euros here and tastes pretty good.

>>4966445
you must be down south because 20 marls are about £8.30 here. not much difference but still...

i remember the good old days when a pack of 20 would set you back just over a fiver.

>>4967150
>marlboro red rolling tobacco

utterly terrible.

>>4981428
..the fuck

>>4981449

You're either an extreme poorfag, or a youngster who doesn't remember when good tobacco was available.

And I don't mean the new fake Three Castles.

>>4981457
>who doesn't remember when good tobacco was available.
You must be poor and senile if you can't find good tobacco.

>>4981467

No, I just got around to quitting smoking shortly before imported cigarettes and tobacco started getting cracked down on by the government, and my smoker friends complained about brands disappearing.

Also, the brand in question has been gone for much longer than that.

I'm not impressed by your god awful American Spirit crap or whatever teenager skater shit you kids smoke these days. I'm sure it tastes good to you but that's because you've never had better.

Wait how do you lose weight while smoking? Just smoke instead of eat?

>>4981499
Nicotine is an appetite suppressant. It makes you eat less and it makes you less inclined to snack on food randomly.

Of course if you're a land planet to begin with it's just going to make you a land planet that happens to smell of cigarettes.

>>4981503

But I'll still lose weight over time? Nice.

>>4981507

The effect is subtle and your body eventually adjusts resulting in a fairly small difference in the long run. The reason it's played up is that when people quit smoking, they freak out and need a substitute for three things: habit, oral fixation, and nicotine buzz. Food satisfies most of those except the nicotine for which they tend to overcompensate by overeating. So there's often weight gain associated with quitting tobacco.

If you really want to lose weight stop being a fat fuck and fix your diet and physical activity levels.

>>4981486
Just what makes you think that any other country can make better tobacco than the USA?

>>4981514

Extreme ultra nationalist USA PATRIOT detected. Put away your butthurt before things get out of hand.

We grow excellent wrapper leaf for cigars. Some of our cigarettes are alright. As a general rule my favorite brands were not American.

But please, accuse me of being a Yuropoor libturd communist gay loving islamofascist because I insinuated that some foreign brand was better than an American brand. Also sage and report my post.

I haven't smoked in months... It's not like I was trying to quit, I just haven't felt like it at all.

I have an unopened packed of these on top of my fridge, I see them every time I go downstairs but haven't even gone to reach for them.

Maybe those shitty indonesian cigars put me off smoking.

>>4981520

>filtered cigars

>>4981525
a) sometimes I don't have the time to sit down for a full cigarillo.
b) I hate getting bits of tobacco in my mouth.

>>4981519
>butthatswrong.jiffylube

America has the best conditions for growing tobacco in the entire world. From the composition of the soil in the primary growing areas, to the humidity in the air, the sunlight (swear to Allah) and the growers here have more experience than anyone else in the world (look up where tobacco was discovered). If foreign brands taste better, its because they added extra shit to the tobacco, not because the tobacco itself actually tastes better.

But please, go ahead and assume I'm a 'Murrican (as opposed to an American).

>>4981520
They will not taste good at this point. If you do fall off the wagon, go get a fresh pack, and enjoy that smooth, filtered Captain Black flavor.

>>4981538
>If foreign brands taste better, its because they added extra shit to the tobacco, not because the tobacco itself actually tastes better.

First of all, your ongoing extreme flyoverland butthurt is ironic because I actually posted a brand comprised of USA grown tobacco. The brand itself would be considered an "import" by any conceivable definition of the term, and it would not be considered an "American" brand. You see, the tobacco trade is highly internationalized and we use terms like "imported" as a shorthand because it's annoying to say "cigarettes comprised of American grown tobacco processed in the Europe but with the holding company located in Bermuda"

Second, there are many styles of smokables, and most cigar smokers would strenuously disagree with your "America has the best conditions" remark. Best for wrapper maybe, and even then that's highly debatable. But let's say we agree that we grow the best wrapper leaf - the amount of flavor contributed by wrapper leaf is minor at best.

Third, the flavor of a cigarette, and in fact pretty much any tobacco product, is determined by a hell of a lot more than just "shit added to it". Curing process, cut size and shape, and how much of the blend is made of what parts of the plant, and from what leaves on what level (close to the sun or close to the ground) make a huge difference (although with cigarettes they don't go that far). That's why your discount no name indian reservation smokes made of 50% sticks and stems taste like ass even though they still give you a buzz.

Finally, you're a retarded murrifat with a hair trigger illiterate form of "patriotism" and people like you are why this country is going down the shitter.

>>4981562
>isn't from the USA
>"people like you are why this country is going down the shitter"
>implying

>>4981568

I'd post my American passport showing my American birth but since you have never seen a passport in your life you'd probably think it was a European drivers' license. Also possession of a passport shows an unhealthy interest in the outside world, amirite amerifat fat fuck MURRKA STRONG?

>>4981562
So your rebuttal is essentially "lol you don't know. Vagueness, blah blah, no examples but AMERICA BAD, oh also LOL YOU ARE AMERICAN, token "flyover" reference, etc."

I guess when you are on a board where no one really expects replies to their posts for 15 minutes or more, that it gives you plenty of time to Google what makes tobacco taste as it is, so that you can launch an uppity tirade against someone on the internet and "win" at something for the day. Congrats! I mean, you didn't "win", but you FEEL like you did. That's what is important. Maybe you have staved off those suicidal thoughts for the day (brought on by being a NEET) of course.

I'm going to go enjoy a Camel. Have fun convincing others that you are a tobacco connoisseur, sir!

>>4981576
*chortle*

Mate, I've probably had more passports than you have, just in American ones alone. I'm a dual citizen, I currently hold two active passports. (And two active driver's licenses)

You couldn't be more wrong.

>>4981581
>AMERICA BAD

There you go again with your unreasonable hair trigger PATRIOT butthurt.

>convincing others that you are a tobacco connoisseur

Was a tobacco connoisseur, emphasis on past tense. I've been off the leaf for about 7 years now. I've smoked more brands in my life than you could google in 15 minutes, and forgotten more about tobacco than you've ever known.

Have fun "defending" America against imagined foreign e-aggressors, and enjoy that camel. As long as it tastes good to you that's what matters.

>>4981588
>As long as it tastes good to you that's what matters.

When you hit your twenties you will understand that this is all that matters. I know that you have a long way to go (about 10 years more now, right?) but you will see that its important to get along with people, and not be a douche for the sake of trying to stand out.

> I've smoked more brands in my life than you could google in 15 minutes, and forgotten more about tobacco than you've ever known

Truly, this is an achievement. Next time you are at the bar, hitting on a girl (I assume you're straight, though that is probably an incorrect assumption) be sure to tell her "Bitch, I've smoked more brands in my life than you can google in 15 minutes".

Guaranteed gusher.

>>4981593

So if I'm reading into your insecurities correctly, you're a NEET in your 20s with suicidal tendencies, confused sexuality, and you obsess over pickup lines because you can't figure out how to talk to people without a set of flash cards.

I'm very sorry about all that but we were talking about American tobacco yes? If you have anything else to say on that, I'm still interested, otherwise take it to /r9k/

>>4979477
Medicine is not illegal. If it were it would be awfully hard to get an MD, no?

>>4981598
>tu quoque

We were, until I wanted to have a debate about American tobacco, and you turned it into a personal attack. You have autism.

>>4981602

Typical MURKA STRONG response. You can accuse people of communist subversion all day and it's acceptable, but when someone turns it around on you it's a "personal attack".

You're here to fling shit, not to discuss tobacco. I haven't even posted a brand of cigarette or rolling tobacco involving leaves grown outside of the US but you want to make it into an /int/ style poo fest. You want to make this /pol/ because you crave conflict? I really enjoy Cuban cigarettes. Here is a picture of a pack similar to the ones I've had. I don't have an actual picture because I haven't had one since before the advent of cheap digital cameras.

Now you can scream about communism or something.

>>4981603
You keep thinking I'm a blind American patriot. Yeah.....I'm gonna need to see your passport now.

>>4981604

Empty pack I found in the back of a drawer because I'm a hoarder.

I'm really doing my best here to keep things on topic, despite your attempts to derail this thread. Now you post something tobacco related.

Got a tin of these tonight after work...
They're not that great, the mouth piece is kinda cool and the first puff tastes like honey but after that it becomes boring and bitter.

>>4966361
Lucky Strikes unfiltered are the greatest cigarette ever

I like dipping tobacco. I try not to make a habit of it but I love the head rush it gives you.