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Hey /ck/, how many of you are making your own Pumpkin Pie these days? I've been meaning to make my own, but there are a couple of things I need to ask you guys first.

What goes into pumpkin spice? I'm thinking of using cinnamon, nutmeg, and ginger. Is there anything else I should consider?

I'm using canned pumpkin stuff, and I'm confident that I shouldn't just dump the can with spices into my pie crust. What else should I mix in with the pumpkin before putting it all into the pie crust?

Also pumpkin stuff general, I've been having pumpkin cream cheese on my bagels a lot, and since I can't get enough of it, I'd also like to know what should be done about homemade pumpkin cream cheese. Thanks guys.

>> No.4952316

Pumpkin spice is a fairly standard mix, just google it. I made a pumpkin pie the other day, it's hard to get ahold of pumpkin puree in the UK so I roasted and blended a butternut squash, it was delicious.

I'm guessing you put in a bit of egg with the pumpkin as well? It's not just pumpkin puree with spices in pastry.

Anyone know of any good recipes with pumpkin and coconut?

>> No.4952321

Use the recipe on the side of the pumpkin puree can and you'll be just fine. It's not a complicated thing to make a pumpkin pie, the real star is the creamy texture of pumpkin and the custard from evaporated milk and the egg. If you do anything "fancy" don't add moisture, in other words, use canned milk not cream, and use canned pumpkin, not fresh pumpkin. What I like to do is up the spice level, personally. I have nutmeg, allspice, ginger, cinnamon, clove, and real vanilla. You also likely want a deep dish pyrex or ceramic pie dish. The traditional recipe makes a quatity of filling for deep dish, and a crust bakes crispiest, imho, in a glass plate. Taking it to someone's house? You can buy 2/$8 pyrex on sale almost anywhere right now, but you can instead buy Ritz piecrust in disposable pieplates in the freezer section of your grocery.

>> No.4952480

>>4952303

Allspice. It's essentially a pumpkin custard made with condensed milk, instead of milk, and with pumpkin added to it.

Jamaican allspice is essential, in my opinion, for historical reasons.

>> No.4952503

>>4952316
Sweet potatoes work too if you can find any. Baking it may be a little different but tastes just as good

>> No.4952506

>>4952480
This. I was just going to say allspice. Just a touch. Allspice is great for many many dishes, but it's essential for pumpkin pie (along with nutmeg, cinnamon, and and ginger).

>> No.4952526
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OP here,

Waiting for my pie crusts to thaw right now. Mixed pumpkin puree, condensed milk, eggs, cinnamon, nutmeg, and ginger. It smells just right, I think. How does it look?

I didn't use allspice as I don't have any on hand... how essential is it?

>> No.4952752

>>4952503
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

just isn't a pumpkin pie to me anymore if it has sweet potato in it....

so many times when i was little

"hey kiddo want pumpkin pie for thanksgiving"

"YEA YEA YAYYYYY :D "

>they come home
>take a bite
>throw up
>its sweer potato pie

every tiem

"oh sorry we didn't read it"

>> No.4953145

bump?

>> No.4953167

>canned pumpkin purée
After 30 minutes in a 200°C oven, pumpkin flesh readily dissociates into purée.

You want to make a delicious thing, but then you go and put canned food in it. I don't understand why.

>> No.4953549

>2013
>using canned pumpkin

Really?

Also, pumpkin pie spice should include cinnamon, ginger, cloves, nutmeg, vanilla, allspice, cardamom, and mace. You can thank me later.

>> No.4953592

>>4952303
>homemade pumpkin cream cheese
Sounds delicious. I bet it's just a small amount of pumpkin blended with it, and a bit of spice. Soften cream cheese to room temperature, whip it, and then fold in the pumpkin.

I had a heavenly experience with pumpkin bagels last week, and a tub of cranberry cream cheese. It had the spice of a chutney, dunno if it was Philadelphia or store brand, but divine. I've been craving it ever since.

>> No.4953598

>>4953167
>>4953549
Canned puree isn't one of those worse than fresh products. It's concentrated and almost devoid of moisture, and it wins pie contests.

>> No.4953604

>>4953167
>>4953549
OP here,

to be honest, the reason I made pumpkin pie in the first place was because I found a can of puree in my pantry. The pie I had was better than I thought it would be. Next time I'm going to try different spices (allspice and vanilla, maybe some mace.)

>>4953592
I've never made my own cream cheese before, is whipping and folding a standard procedure? And in terms of the spices, should I use the same ones that I did with the pie?

>> No.4953652

>>4953604
I don't even know if you can "make" your own cream cheese. I was talking about flavoring some store bought cream cheese. It's notoriously hard to blend if it's not room temp. I often do flavor it to make a cheese spread, like a liptauer (onion and assorted cheese added to it), or a blue cheese dip (gorgonzola, garlic, sour cream, cream cheese). To make a pumpkin flavor it'll be folded in to prewhipped cream cheese.

>> No.4953664

>>4953598
>and it wins pie contests.

in murrka

Yeah, not exactly worth considering.

>> No.4953701

I've only ever had the Chef John pumpkin pie vid related.

Has anyone else had this and compared it to anything else?

It's really good but I've never tried any other pumpkin pie recipe before.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZ5VJNJNfSQ

>> No.4953714

>>4953664
It's an american recipe/american pie.

>> No.4953964

>>4952303
I make my own healthier version, with no crust and flax seed, to eat for breakfast through most of the pumpkin appropriate season. It's not godly but it's good enough to convince me to eat in the morning, which I usually have problems with. I use like 2 1/2 c pumpkin 2 eggs, 1 cup milk, and 1/4c flax. I get 5-6 servings out of that. I use cinnamon, ginger, and cardamom for the spices.

>> No.4955838

boomp

>> No.4955848

>>4952303
Here's how you start out making pumpkin pie.

1. Buy a can of Libby's pumpkin at the grocery store.
2. Follow the recipe on the can.

It's a good recipe. It's not the best there is, but it's a good place to start. Once you've made it using that recipe, you can figure out what you want to change next time.

>> No.4955871

I recommend using a real pumpkin next time. They're only like 1.69$ and personally I think prepping them is fun. Plus you get all the yummy seeds

>> No.4955895

really, use a real pumpkin next time. just can't be beat.
for spices, I use cinnamon, mace, allspice, vanilla extract, nutmeg, and ginger. I also use honey or brown sugar instead of regular, to improve the color and flavor.

>> No.4955930

>>4955895
what does mace taste like?

>> No.4955933

>>4953964
what does cardamom taste like?

>> No.4955938

>>4955930
like nutmeg but different. I find it sweeter and more subtle

>> No.4955987
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4955987

Mmmmm...

Pumpkin pie with tartar sauce.

>> No.4955989

>>4955938
hmmm. thanks.

>> No.4956035

I use cinnamon, nutmeg, ginger, cloves (sparingly), and allspice. Whether I'm using canned pumpkin or one I roasted and mashed myself, I also always mix in an egg, some sugar, and vanilla extract.

>> No.4956053

>>4955933
I tastes like pinesol if you just pop one in your mouth, but it's a main ingredient in chai teas. In conjunction with cinnamon and the like it tastes like Christmas, exotic spice, and love

>> No.4956081
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4956081

Britbong here. We don't have Thanksgiving but I really want to try pumpkin pie.
I will have to order in canned pumpkin online, because its non-existent in stores here.

Any brands you recommend?

I'm after just canned pumpkin, not the pie filling. I'll add my own sugar and extras.

>> No.4956086

>>4956053
>chai teas

stop that.

>> No.4956144

>>4956086
I would but I legitimately don't know what you want me to stop. Can you let me know? Assume I don't speak english natively.

>> No.4956147

>>4956081
I remember seeing pumpkin puree at Waitrose

>> No.4956150

>>4956086
its better than mint or cinnamon tea. those are just mint or cinnamon boiled into tea

>> No.4956160

>>4956086
did I spell it wrong or do you not like chai tea?

>> No.4956163

>>4956144

just say Chai. we'll all know what you mean :)

>people get pissy if you repeat yourself, since Chai means tea.

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>>4956081
Libby's canned pumpkin is sort of the standard.

>> No.4956164

>>4956163
Oh OK thank you.

>> No.4956165

>>4956164

:D

>> No.4956169

>>4956160

chai and tea are literally the same word.
they are regional pronunciations of the same chinese character.

the spiced tea beverage you are thinking of is masala chai.

>> No.4956179

>>4956081
Publix makes a decent one but there's nothing like homemade from an American mother.

Publix is a supermarket chain. You folk wont get that in tesco or Britbong places.

>> No.4956203

>>4952752
someone relate with me plz

>> No.4956244

>>4956203
this also makes me mad, that's why i bake my own

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>>4956244
MY NUGGA :D

>> No.4956443

bump

>> No.4956509

I've made pumpkin pies using both canned pumpkin and pumpkin I prepared myself.

The taste I feel is better with the prepared pumpkin, but only just slightly. Not enough to make up for the extra work I had to do to get to the starting point on the pie. The seeds are a plus to have, but I personally would just used canned pumpkin if I was looking to just make one pie.

Now, when I'm looking to create a variety of pumpkin dishes, and I have the time to prepare and bake my own pumpkin, it's all well and good. But in my opinion a self-prepared pumpkin is absolutely not necessary to making a good pumpkin pie.

>> No.4956649

bump

>> No.4956958

bump