/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>still
You understand McDonald's is a worldwide chain?

>>4726512
menus vary by location

on a side, sausage gravy and biscuits in general WILL kill you, the amount of sodium and and carbs and fat is phenomenal and will leave you feeling like a 500 pound man who just ran a mile

>>4726512
You understand that McDonalds in India serves curry?

>>4726512
I'm not sure I understand what you mean?

>>4726520
The vast majority of McDonald's never offered biscuits and gravy. How could they "still" offer it?

>>4726522

Mine on 64th St in Kansas City had it up until a couple years ago, so I'm sure a bunch of other ones had it too. I'd love to know where you got "vast majority" out than directly from your asshole

>>4726524
"Worldwide" happens to includes all those countries that aren't america, you retarded yank.

>>4726524

I got it at one in iowa city back in 2002 or so. they also had the Big 'n' Tasty on the dollar menu!

>>4726526

How do you know *those* ones don't offer it? You're just guessing until you actually go to their websites and check, and even then, it's up to store owner discretion. So you don't know and can in fact never know for sure.

*masturbates*

>>4726529
Show me a single other country where "biscuits and gravy" features on a mcdonald's menu.

>>4726533

Prove to me that most of them don't have it. THe burden's on you!

>>4726535
Biscuits and gravy are available in parts of the southern U.S.

http://www.brandeating.com/2011/08/fast-food-reference-mcdonalds-us.html

>>4726522
Your original response now makes sense. I get it.

I've never even had biscuits and gravy. Gotta get me some, if I ever come to the states.

>>4726536

That *proves* nothing. It is highly suggestive though.

I'm an ausfag. What the fuck is biscuits and gravy?

>>4726571

Look, I know there's a lot of jargon that gets thrown around here, but this one's pretty fucking obvious.

>>4726508
I live in Portland, OR... I have never seen biscuits and gravy on the McD's menu here.

When I lived in Hawaii we had teriyaki burgers with shredded lettuce. A Portuguese Sausage, scrambled eggs and rice breakfast platter. And only one McD's near Aloha Tower sold hotdogs for all the super white tourists.

>>4726571
poor nigger food

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>>4726571
Buttermilk biscuits split in half open face style with a creamy ground pork sausage gravy on top. It's even better if you put a sunny side up egg on the biscuit first.

Here's a recipe, I'd put a tiny bit of sage in the gravy.
http://www.food.com/recipe/southern-biscuits-and-gravy-236284

>>4726587
Not when these are biscuits

And this is gravy

>>4726587
But if the picture is what it is, that definitely isn't what I would call either biscuits OR gravy.

>>4726599
>>4726598
yes, I agree entirely.

>>4726508
>bread covered in cat vomit
By the looks of how disgusting it is, let me guess, American?

>>4726598
>>4726599
It must be horrible living in a country with bland, uninteresting food.

>>4726599
>too stupid to know there is more than 1 color of gravy

I don't know what australians call southern biscuits. I don't think they have them.
Closest approximations would be a scone I guess. Flaky quickbreads and such.

>>4726630
You must be trolling.

>OP image is of the most colourless, disgusting shit dumped on a plate that you can imagine.
>calls OTHER food bland and uninteresting

Wow, just.... wow.

>>4726634
confirmed for no biscuits and gravy
shit is flavorful as fuck

i'm actually making some this morning for breakfast. but with toast instead of biscuits

>>4726630
I don't think he is American.

itt mad yurofilth

>>4726529
>How do you know *those* ones don't offer it?
Are you actually this arrogant or just American? Protip: only America eats that horrible shit.

>>4726587
>Look, I know there's a lot of jargon that gets thrown around here, but this one's pretty fucking obvious.
What is it about Americans that makes them the most arrogant and horrible people on the planet? This is why you are hated.

>>4726635
It may contain the flavours of the universe. It doesn't make it look any more interesting.

Even this (pic related) looks more interesting than that shit.

>>4726647
>greasy deep fried shitlogs

huehuehue

>>4726630
>It must be horrible living in a country with bland, uninteresting food.
Coming from an American while defending his bland, uninteresting food.

>>4726650
>ausfags already admit to never eating it
i i it's bland guys! guys?

>>4726633
>too stupid to know there is more than 1 color of gravy
Dumbfucks ,I....
You do know what gravy is don't you? You do know the substance that murilards call sausage gravy isn't a gravy at all and is a bechamel sauce don't you? Why am I even asking this, you're a lard mountain, you know nothing and are arrogant about your own stupidity.

>>4726650
"Uninteresting" is just a purely troll phrasing and highly subjective, so I shan't bother with that, but bland on the other hand...

Yeah, you're massively incorrect. You can argue that sausage in gravy over buttermilk biscuits is unappealing, not a good flavor combination, or something similar, but to call it bland is the height of ignorance.

>>4726656
it's made with animals drippings m8
it's gravy

>>4726655
Guess what fuckface, I'm not the Strayan you were talking to. I come from a land where food is actually good and not just white shit on some bread. Go back to your horrible faggot food and stop shitting up the board with your arrogance and retardation.

>>4726662
2mad2live
stay mad with your shitty convict food and high cost of living m8

It looks like complete shit but biscuits and gravy are delicious.

>>4726661
A roux with milk is called a bechamel sauce, meat drippings made with wine is a gravy. I don't expect Americans to know shit about food when they eat the worst food on the planet but this is basic stuff.

>>4726656
>ou do know the substance that murilards call sausage gravy isn't a gravy at all and is a bechamel sauce don't you?

Except it isn't

It has 0 butter. The roux is fat and flour.

>eating gravy on bread as a meal

If you do this, you should look at your body in the mirror and decide if this is a good lifestyle.

>>4726656
>bechamel sauce
bechamel=butter, roux, milk/cream

I don't see shit about using rendered sausage/bacon fat in that list, and that isn't being autistic about it because when you're talking french sauces, they are all rigidly defined.

>>4726649
>not liking greasy deepfried food
>2013

Poor show chap.

>>4726665
I know you burgers are retarded but try and read what I posted again, not the Strayan. I'm actually French if you must know, what now faggot? Go on, try to defend your horrible food to me.

>>4726674
s/convict/rotten

>>4726671

>not having it with some additional meat, potatoes and eggs

>mfw I am making bechamel for my toast and gravy because this brand of pork sausage won't render enough fat for me

>>4726681
This is why you and your country is fat.

>>4726681
Wow, you took something horrible and made it worse. I guess this is what happens when your entire cuisine revolves around McDonalds. So what do we actually have, your white shit on bread, yellow stuff that you had better not tell me are scrambled eggs, some orange thing and a burger. American/10.

>>4726691
Nah, it's actually got a lot more to do with how we have gone from a production economy to a service economy. Our food culture was to cram a fuckton of calories in our meals because we were actually laboring from sun up to sun down. We retained the food, but now just sit at a desk or some shit.

>>4726707
Caloric intake and portions have increased over the past few decades. It isn't like we were eating deep fried mars bars and fast food when we were "working from sun up to sun down" 150 years ago.

>>4726660
well half of us dont know that is 'sausage gravy' over 'buttermilk buscuits' because we dont live in the southern half of burgerland you giant twit

my plate had pepper and hot sauce

>>4726722

b&g are available in restaurants nationally, both chains and local joints. it is somewhat regional but not so regional that you have an excuse for not knowing what it is.

>>4726722
>implying it hasn't been explained itt already
>implying you can't make it yourself unless you've already exceeded your austerity quota for the month

>>4726729
did i say i lived in clapistan? kiwifag here

superior

>>4726736
>implying you can't make it yourself unless you've already exceeded your austerity quota for the month


no really, at least give it a try before proving moot right

let me upload the good eats ep for you, and you can find your own biscuit/scone/unsweetened quickbread recipe

or use toast.

>>4726739
>>4726736
http://secure.semperprotinam.com/zone1/secure_files/Good%20Eats%20S1E8%20Gravy%20Confidential.avi

>>4726727
It's like if an leper ejaculated on toast.

>>4726729
>it is somewhat regional but not so regional that you have an excuse for not knowing what it is.
You people are the most arrogant scum on this planet.

>>4726739
>at least give it a try before proving moot right
What the fuck is that supposed to mean?

>>4726773
moot has gone on record calling all australian posters the most horrible 4chan cancer

>>4726769
>says the guy that pops into a thread with the dish's name clearly in the title, refuses to google it, ignores every description of it and proceed to bitch for 2 hours

>>4726769
America IS the most well known and emulated country on the planet. Mostly because they produce so much and force it down everyone's throat. I bet you have several American chain stores within 5km of your house.

>>4726722
>implying that large of a number of users are non-American

Aside from that, what you're saying is that you know precisely jack shit about the dish yet are happy to talk shit about its bland without having the smallest clue what it tastes like or being assed enough to look up the ingredients to have some small idea?

>>4726711
>Caloric intake and portions have increased over the past few decades. It isn't like we were eating deep fried mars bars and fast food when we were "working from sun up to sun down" 150 years ago.
I wasn't implying that we were, but to be fair I was being unclear. I'm speaking more to the idea of big, hearty meals that pervades most American peasant class dishes.

post a pic of homemade bread and gravy then you can bash it all you want

it only takes a few minutes

you need bulk sausage (not links or patties) flour and milk

spices to taste, typically pepper

>>4726672
No, he's right.
It's an Americanized bechamel. We're notorious for doing shit like this.

That's why we're numbah wun supah sugoi

>>4726795
You really, really don't know anything about French cooking if you think you can do something like substitute a primary ingredient to a mother sauce and it still be the same mother sauce.

>>4726799
>Americanized bechamel
>Americanized
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It's not French cuisine anymore.

>>4726792

So you're not allowed to critique a dish unless you've made it yourself? That's how this works?

>>4726812
No, but it's apparently not available outside of murika

so the fastest way to get some is to make it yourself.

they have milk and sausage in australia, right?

>>4726816
They have sausageS.
We don't do that thing where we forget to put them in cases and call the ground meat "sausage" anyway.

>>4726820
no bulk sausage?

hell you could probably do it with cut up regular sausage


>Bulk sausage, or sometimes sausage meat, refers to raw, ground, spiced meat, usually sold without any casing.

don't use ground beef, i know you faggots are retarded

so is there healthy gravy?

>>4726836
i dunno

how healthy does broth and fond sound?

>>4726841
ew...it doesn't sound healthy at all but i have an affinity for gravy on top of fries and squeaky cheese. NOTE:I'm aware it's unhealthy as shit, but surely there's a solution that will keep it a poutine. i haven't tried biscuits before.

>>4726848
i've never had poutine
i'm too lazy to make cheese curd

>>4726599

>this is gravy

This.

Also, according to the Oxford English dictionary, gravy is "the fat and juices exuding from meat during cooking", or "a sauce made by mixing the fat and juices exuded by meat during cooking with stock and other ingredients".

http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/gravy

>>4726856
The sauce is made by mixing the fat and juices exuded by (sausage) meat cooking with other ingredients (flour, milk, sausage)

Your point?

>>4726808
Yeah, which means it's not bechamel. This isn't a hard concept guy. Just because you're calling it "americanized" doesn't make you any less incorrect. The word has a strictly defined meaning. When it comes to certain parts of the culinary vocabulary, you are dealing with a dead language.

More to the point, calling it "Americanized" doesn't denote anything other than some sort of change that some person may deem "American", which to use animal fats instead of butter is not really a uniquely American thing, thus making the qualifier devoid of any real meaning besides the intended derogatory implications.

This is all without recognizing the fact that making the roux with animal fats (especially the kind in white gravy) makes a profoundly different food than using butter.

To further beat this dead horse, you're also talking about substituting one of THREE ingredients and then attempting to call it the same thing. It's akin to swapping out the taco shell in a taco for white bread and still calling it a taco.

>>4726870
>taco salad

You're just mad that Amercans innovate so much.

>muh Caesar salad

>>4726865

I can't say I've ever used milk in gravy (normally I use stock), but you're right, it technically is gravy.

what are the best gravy recipes?

>>4726874
>You're just mad that Amercans innovate so much.
>implying I'm not a bored American who doesn't want one of his favorite foods to be associated with french shit and is bored at work.

>>4726870
It's not called bechamel though. It's called sawmil gravy, which is a modified bechamel created by southern Americans. Thus, 'Americanized'.

Stay anally annihilated.

>>4726877
It's pretty much a farmers 'breakfast' gravy.
>Milk from muh cows
>Sausage from muh pig butchering
>Flour from trading eggs with the faggot down the road

Serve with eggs and potatos.

>>4726885
>It's not called bechamel though
No shit. Because it's not bechamel. You seem to actually understand.
>It's called sawmil gravy, which is a modified bechamel created by southern Americans.
Wait, no. You're just an idiot.

>>4726887
You're just mad as hell m8. Alton Brown backs me up on this.

>>4726891
Nah, having fun. I'm one of those twisted fucks who enjoys arguing over pointless trivialities on the internet.

Also,
>implying I give a damn that Alton Brown is wrong on this

>>4726895
jee willickers who's more credible someone who can't into gravy, GRAVY, or alton brown. this is a tough one.

>>4726897
How am I the one who can't into gravy?

Gravy is when you use the shit you cook out of some meat.

Bechamel uses butter.

It's a pretty clear distinction.

>>4726891
Alton Brown is kinda notorious for liking to take the piss out of french cuisine

>>4726908

Hold on. I sometimes use butter to make the roux, and then add the meat juices and stock to that. Is that not gravy?

>>4726933
So long as the meat juices make it back in there, it is.

>>4726933
no son

it's FREEDOM

>>4726937

Then surely the use of butter is irrelevant? You need fat from the meat for a roux, anyway, not juice.

>>4726938

But I'm not from 'murrica... is it still freedom?!

>>4726943
If we were talking ANY kind of food other than French, which has been systematically codified, it wouldn't matter, but since we are talking French, it does matter. See, you are falling about making a bechamel based gravy. Hell, it even matters when and how you use the butter:

If you were to make the roux with the rendered animal fat, then add butter, it would be a gravy and not a bechamel based gravy.

>>4726963
Talking, not falling.

>>4726781
I know that because he can't handle the banter, but what does it have to do with this thread? Americans are the ones saying everyone else is retarded for not knowing American food. Everyone elses food is shit compared to American food and just being arrogant dicks. this thread has been nothing but American shitposting.

>>4726788
Do you guys like steak and kidney pies?

>>4726792
>bulk sausage (not links or patties)
What do you mean by this? Sausages are the things in my picture here.

>>4727020
how about you read the thread

>that feel when Canadian McDonald's don't offer chicken biscuits as a value item or at all.

>>4727020
Typically when an american refers to bulk sausage, this is what they mean. It comes raw and heavily spiced so you can mold it and cook it how you like.

>>4727017

Steak and kidney puddings are glorious.

Creamed Chipped Beef master race.