/ck/ - Food & Cooking

I dont think they need a belt anymore

contrary to popular belief, the ocean doesn't actually serve pizza

I can confirm that the pizza belt does not extend into Rhode Island

>>4650889
What are you talking about. RI is all Italians

nope, you can get identical good pizza anywhere in the north, from new York to Minneapolis

ITT: Ethnocentric faggots that have never been more than 100 miles from NY in their entire pitiful lives

Need to extend down to DC, but otherwise, yeah.

>>4650889

There's Al Forno...

But other than that, yeah, pizza doesn't seem too big here.

>>4650889

this

>>4650895

nope, go to south prov.

>>4650938

been there, sucks balls. pretty much all RI pizza is saki's pizza and pizza king.

>implying that any schmuck can't just put sauce, cheese, and toppings on dough in a good pizza oven.

Good pizza can be found anywhere in the U.S. if you know where to look.

>>4650988

AHAHAHAHAHAHHA no. Lived all over the US, this is simply not true, You just don't know what good is. You can find decent pizza most larger cities.

>>4650992
Except you're wrong you faggot.

That's like saying only the midwest can make a decent burger when you can find good burgers anywhere you go.

>>4650924

Are you the same idiot that was claiming Minneapolis had the best sushi in the US a few days ago? That was wrong, and you're wrong now.

>>4650994

Nobody says only the midwest can make a decent burger, because it's not true. People do say it's hard to find decent pizza outside of NYC and Chicago (with some notable exceptions), and it's mostly right, faggot.

>>4650925

ITT faggots that think that one time they went to Sbarro's in Times Square means they know dick about NYC pizza.

Also, you don't know how to use the word ethnocentric, faggot.

>>4650874
>mentions pizza
>doesn't mention Italy

beyond pleb, OP

needs to extend north to boston

>>4650937
fuck yeah.

2 Amys ... GOD TIER

>>4650874

silly faggit, that's not Chicago

>>4651022
get a load of this guy, we're talking about pizza not quiche

>>4650982

>saki's pizza and pizza king

Are those places good?

>the gf doesn't eat cheese so never get pizza

>>4651011

>implying italian pizza is the same food as US

You've obviously never been to Italy. Italians like pizza, but it's an appetizer or snack at most, and not a big thing. The only spots that really push it our tourist traps.

This is what most of the country considers decent pizza.

Sad, really.

>>4651022
>>4651024
Chicago pizza is good.

It's just not, you know, "pizza."

>>4651024

I wouldn't call it quiche - quiche takes some skill besides MOAR PORTIONS, so it's not a Chicago thing. I'd say MEAT PIE instead.

>>4651047
please delete your picture i can feel my arteries clogging looking at it

>>4651047
Chicago deep dish pizza = throw a load of shitty miscellaneous ingredients in a pan and spread ketchup on it

>>4651047
Holy fuck is that an entire cow's worth of cheese in there?

>not mentioning saint louis

left out again.

Saint Louis style pizza can be pretty good, but only if you get it at a decent St.Louis-style pizzeria. Fuck Imo's and that low-tier shit.

>>4651047

I had some last time I visited Chicago. It's really not bad, but what they don't tell you is how long it takes to get your food. Those pizzas literally take 40 minutes to cook. I'm told the natives know to call ahead, but we went in (after a 15-20 minute wait), got seated, ordered, and then we were just sitting there for the entire time wondering when our food would arrive.

>>4650885
Where does tuna pizza come from then?

>>4651061
>provel

no

>>4651069
i dunno. I know where it goes, though, which is the trash can.

>>4651061

>The definitive characteristics of St. Louis-style pizza are a very thin crust made without yeast, the common (but not mandatory) use of Provel processed cheese, and pizzas cut into squares or rectangles instead of wedges

god fucking dammit. and i thought Chicago-style was pleb. St Louis style confirme for sub-pleb

>processed cheese
>rectangle cuts
>no yeast in dough

>>4650996
I only mentioned Minneapolis because once you go west of there, there is nothing.

You can quite easily find really good pizza in every city in the northeast and midwest, and most cities in the south for that matter

>>4651030
Have you ever been to a pizzeria? Am I supposed to believe those are all tourist traps?

>>4651095
Rectangle cut is a necessary evil because of the crust.

Don't knock it till you've tried it.

>>4651044

looks decent

I've never had good pizza in a restaurant

pizza isn't art, pizza is shit, you don't artistically arrange the toppings and you don't delicately season it with the finest leaves

you make the pizza your bitch

you bet I'm gonna sauce you, you filthy whore. It's time for the ham now, take the ham, you like that ham. What goes good with ham? more ham. Say cheese you fucking pancake it's time for a 3 inch layer

>>4651137
>the crust

which is shit because no yeast

do you even pizza?

>>4651136

Yes, I've been to them in Napoli, Roma, and Sienna. They're good - but pizza just isn't that big a thing over there, people don't get excited about it like they do in the US.

Pizza there is just a snack food - it's be like if Japan was crazy about Meatloaf, with different cities having different versions, and the Nip version of your faggy ass started going off about how the best Meatloaf obviously has to be in America.

>>4651146
Pizza is mostly an american invention. Most of the places making it in Italy only started making it because tourists expected them to, and they just don't do it as well as the top american places

I have no respect for anyone who thinks NY style pizza is good

>>4651159

That's a nice lasagna/quiche on the right.

>>4651159
and the thing is, you can get "new york style" pizza in chicago and the rest of the midwest very easily that tastes exactly like it does in New York

>>4651166

Except it doesn't, you just don't know what New York pizza tastes like. Same with bagels, it's dat water . . .

>>4651148

Exactly. Pizza in Italy was just bits of bread peasants used as a snack for the most part.

Actually shouldn't have put meatloaf, it's more like Japan and KitKats or KFC.

>>4651171
>it's dat water
thats complete bullshit. You people are delusional.

>>4651174

NO U

How long have you lived in NYC? Where else have you lived?

You haven't? Oh, so you have no frame of reference? You're like a child that wanders into the movie . . . .

>>4651011
>>calling someone a pleb
>>pizza is pleb food
God damn I wish all of you faggots in this thread would leave /ck/ forever.

>>4651179
You don't have to live in New York to have eaten pizza there

Pizza is American, the possible Italian versions are so different that if you are to find shit that looks like what you'd find at the USA, it's a tourist trap/they're copying the US. Pizza Margherita I suppose but that's honestly not the same.

New York style came first, using local ingredients to change their recipe somewhat (Different tomatoes, different cheese, etc.) and made New York style. Pizza spread slightly, but didn't become that big quite yet. Over in Chicago they wanted to recreate it to better reflect a more macho big-boy type of food (Yup, that whole "MOAR FOOD" goes back way before drive-through.) The Chicago style was born from this.

Both styles were formed before pizza really became a much more popular food, certainly before any chain was formed. Although New York style/thin crust pizza is the kind mainly sold, Chicago Style has enough merit, flavor, and history to hold its own as a real pizza.

That St. Louis shit looks awful though who the hell would want that

>>4651171
> dat water

Its the same bullshit with San Francisco Sourdough "oh its the humidity in the air that makes it one of a kind"

Its all nonsense

What exactly is it about the water that delusional new yorkers think is different?

>>4651185

Where'd you eat it then? How many times? Going to a shitty Famous Rays one night after drinking at the Times Square Applebee's isn't really exhausting the subject.

>>4651201

Nobody says that. It's well known that San Franciso's sourdough is because of a lactic bacteria present along with the wild yeast there. It's now sold in sourdough starter mixes for people who want it outside of San Francisco.

>>4651224
I really don't care enough about the subject to list exactly what places and in what cities I have eaten pizza
The fact is, there is good and bad pizza in just about every city, and good pizza is especially easy to find throughout the north and while some cities have specific styles common to them, "New York style" might as well just be called "american style".

>>4651229
>It's now sold
you say that likes its a recent development

>>4651237

Except it's not, and you obviously don't know shit. Hey, I can get barbeque in Vancouver, must mean it's all the same everywhere, right?

>>4651238

No, didn't mean it just came out.

>>4651249
not all things are the same everywhere. A lot of things are regional specialties where they are a hell of a lot more popular and easier to find in one area, and sometimes where you can't find it at all outside certain regions.


"New York Style" pizza is not one of these products. it is extremely easy to make and very widely available across in any decent sized city outside California

>>4651137
>imitation cheese

Never

This has turned into the same faggy thread it always is.

So here's how it works, kiddos. NY Style pizza is for all purposes crap that has been sold to you as great because it is from the great new york city. crap don't mean it's really that bad but crap means it's on par with some shit you get at a carnival or fair, like a hot dog. NYC pizza is to what a corn dog is in Iowa or something.

Chicago deep dish is a delicacy. It's rich and filling and yeah, it does take a long time to make. However it's also something most Chicago's except the fastest super fan walrus mustache guys get ALL the time. Most of the time people from Chicago get Chicago thin crust, a cracker thin pizza that is light yet still has plenty of toppings, cut into party squares. Or at least that's how it used to be. Pic related.

Ultimately the two, NY and Chicago pizza are more related than unrelated. Deep dish is good "pizza" but its a treat, it's not something we eat everyday like how new yorkers gobble down their pizza like it was a long skinny black phallus. So really you cat's are comparing apples to oranges. Instead you should be uniting to fight bullshit like pizza with ranch dressing or "taco pizza" and other bullshit like that.

>tldr? I don't give a shit.

All pizza is disgusting pleb food. How anyone can think that some dough, ketchup, and cheese is a good combination is out of their minds

>>4651350

Sorry to interrupt your truffles and clavier you fail pompass troll but ketchup is NOT tomatoes that are used on a pizza. Now you can resume eating your foie gras with lemon grass butter and champagne and please don't return.

>>4651350
You say cheese I say rotten fermented milk.

There's actually a nice place I go to in Nevada that has the best pizza I've ever had in my entire fucking life.

>>4650874
>No Chicago
>No St Louis
>No California
>No Ohio

pretty shitty belt

I see your pizza belt and raise you one pizza boot.

>>4651339

>Chicago
>trying to act as an authority on Pizza

That's cute, 2nd city. Get back to your meat pie and flavorless beef sandwiches. Protip, MOAR isn't a flavor.

>>4651258

Except "New York Style" in those major cities isn't the equal of pizza in New York. So your theory is wrong.

Keep trying though, I'm sure you'll convince yourself your shit town is cool eventually.

>>4651719

lol...that's funny but it's still not chi-town

REMINDER THAT THESE ARE OFFICIALLY THE ONLY KINDS OF PIZZZA

CALIFORNIA IS THE BIRTHPLACE OF THE REINOVATION OF PIZZA.

THE MIDWEST IS THE HOMELAND OF THE CRACKER CRUST AND CHICAGO STYLE

THE BELT ABOVE IS HOMEPLACE OF THE NEW YORK STYLE

>>4650874
>mostly New Jersey
very good

>>4651719
Seriously dude, Italy isn't the place to go for Pizza.

>>4651744

I don't know what exit you are but nothing good ever came from NJ

>>4651752
Lol. Look at this guy.

>>4651753

>>4651728
I never really understood why people enjoyed the Californian innovation for pizza. I mean I'm from California, but I don't think that Spago and California Pizza Kitchen really represent good pizza, or even decent pizza, it's rather shitty.

The only merit it has is that it halted pizza from tunneling further and further into a more objective shittiness, the celebrity chef guy started making it gourmet when every company wanted to make it a nice, cheap, prepackaged, flavorless frozen dinner. It brought some quality back in the west coast where there was none.

>>4651756

>>4651756
>defending NJ
>bringing up Bruce Shitsteen and not Frank Sinatra

>>4651758
Same here, I hate that shit. A buddy of mine kept talking up California Pizza Kitchen. So finally after a month I caved and went. I walked in sat down looked at the menu, then promptly got up and went home. I then made my own pizza. After a few days of a slow rise crust I called my buddy over. He tried my pizza and then understood why I would not eat that shit.

>>4651138
I like you. I'd buy you a beer.

>>4651755
Man, I'm telling you. The best American pizza blows the best Italian pizza out of the water!

>making dough with tomato sauce, cheese, and toppings is so hard that only certain regions of the United States can accomplish such a hard task

>>4651767
>not Grover Cleveland

>>4651755

Covered above faggot, take that shit elsewhere

>>4651728
forgot to post the image

>>4651146
this is completely true, when I lived in Rome I was shocked at how small a thing was. Only in Naples could it really be considered popular, and even then, not like it is in NYC.

>>4651720

Do you even know what the fuck you are talking about?

Clearly you are the authority on "cute." So when I want to know what's cute, I'll ask your pathetic soy eating fairy self. Your kind make me sick.

>>4654568

chicago doesn't know shit about pizza. Any real pizza i got was flat and like as if the crust was made of shitty cracker meal. NYC pizza is where it's at.

>>4654568
>pathetic soy eating fairy self

>>4654579

>implying YOU know shit about pizza.

>>4651703
Where?
By "Nevada" do you mean "Nevada" or do you mean "Somewhere In Shit Vegas?" Because we don't claim that slice of hell as our own.

>>4654595

>implying you know more about pizza than a native new yorker who's eaten pizza all over the world and knows far more about actually making a pizza than you'll ever know.

>>4654626
>murrkan
>kwizeen

>>4654628

inb4 i point out i'm eurasian

>>4654626

inb4 I point out that I'm from Oceania.

>>4654633

in after you miss the point entirely.

>>4654635

in after you take me for just another basement dwelling 4chan. Good sir, I live on the 2nd floor. And I too have had pizza all over this world on 3 continents.

>>4650874
Pretty solid. I would remove the majority of Pennsylvania's coverage from this, half of Warren Co. in NJ, half of the Upstate NY part, and a good 3/4 of Connecticut's. Also fuck Rhode Island.

>b..but muh deep dish

Autists. Autists everywhere.

>>4654626
being from New York suggests you don't know much about things

>>4650982

Al Forno is fantastic

Op's pic is pretty accurate
Nj fag here & I personally believe its due to the water source which is why the same map is true for bagels

>>4654646

I've had it on 5, including places like Afghanistan where it's literally cooked on a stove top in a pan and has ketchup squirted onto it from packets (i shit you not). I've had swedish african pizza. I've had pizza in Egypt. I've had pizza in Korea with a living squid on it. Trust me, i know far more about pizza than you will ever possibly know.

I also do not live in a basement, cunt.

Inb4 "u mad"

Nah, I ain't mad, i'm fucking furious.

>>4654651

Being from your mother's cunt means you're probably going to die alone and sad. Stop samefagging too.

>>4654658
>NJ water
>not making your dough with the tears of starving Ethiopian children
Cis scum.

>>4654658
You'd be wrong. It's due to local yeasts, better ingredients, and family talent.

>>4654669

The water is the major reason. Water binds the dough's few ingredients. Nearly every chemical reaction that produces flavor occurs in water. This includes any kind of olive oil, dairy, whatever. It's all water that causes difference in texture and taste. Even the way it evaporates from the dough changes the flavor of the crust.

>>4650925
>grew up in TX love pizza
>move to NY for a few years reluctantly
>fuck other pizza

>>4651195

You would be surprised. I know alot of Italians (as in, in Italy) that are very resistant to admit Pizza is an american dish. It was brought over from America and now they make their own styles, usually with fresh mozzarella and tomatoes unlike the American pizza. Before American style though, it was more like focaccia bread. The word pizza stems from "pita"

>>4654662
>afghanistan

Now there is some SHIT pizza. Those fuckers make it with curdled goat cheese.

RI does not believe in cheese on pizza
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pizza_strips

>>4654694

More like cheeze that comes in a can. Not fucking kidding. The rambo pizza was hilarious, a whole package of halal hotdogs, chunks of chicken, and what appeared to be frosted flakes. I'm still not sure what the the fuck they were attempting to make.

Note: there's like ONE pizza place in the entire country,and it's filled with former taliban and taliban who joined the police force. It's also right next to this park where guys guy to pick up little boys to dress in women's clothes and make up to dance for them. Very fucking weird country.

>>4654700
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pizza_strips
gross

>>4654694

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DE7Tyk_-jfg

Similar to what the other place does, only this place apparently does it much better. The other one is on the other side of kabul.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DE7Tyk_-jfg

But if you notice, they use a pizza oven AND use a sort of deep dish style pizza. The other place basically put it on a sauce pan, and just pan fried it. Fucking weird.

Scotland does weirder shit, they deep fry the pizza and cover it in gravy.

>>4654712

>Scotland does weirder shit, they deep fry the pizza and cover it in gravy.

hnnnnnnnnng would eat

>>4654633
Eurasia will defeat you,Ingsoc scum

>>4654807

That's where you're wrong. Ingsoc forces have been victorious on all fronts, including recently the Malabar Coast. Big Brother has permitted a second ration of victory chocolate to go with our victory gin. Doubleplus Good!

>new yorkers being delusional

nothing to see here

>>4654807
>>4654816
The fuck are you on about, comrade? We've always been at war with Eastasia.

>>4654689

>this entire post

>>4654700

I'm always amazed at the number of people who seem to know about RI on /ck/.

Is it a J&W thing?

>>4651159
Fuck you, chicago style isn't even pizza, it's a casserole.

>>4655330

Congrats, you are the very first person to post this and what a way to overcome your autism with such a scientific breakthrough attributed to this post. How did you come to such a conclusion? Did you do it by yourself? Or did you have a team of "experts" assist you in your endeavor. You are truly the brightest star on 4chan, just remember the flame that burns half as long, burns twice as bright. We wouldn't want you to get "burn out" with such thought provoking criticism and observations that are ground breaking 4chan firsts. Perhaps you should spread yourself to other areas where your intelligence is needed.

>>4650992
God you are such a typical dumbass New Yorker, "You just don't KNOW! Only my jewish racist shithole city has x thing and it's the BEST!"

fuck off.

>>4654807
>>4654816

I love you two.

>>4650992
no. You can't find that spoonful of sauce and a sprinkle of cheese on a cracker that some of you shitheads call pizza, but that is in fact not real pizza. Real pizza can however be found almost everywhere.

You want real pizza?

Here.

real
fucking
pizza

>>4654678
filtered

>>4655513
>pepperoni flavored sausage

wut

>>4655513
dammit fucker i was just getting on 4chan and i see this on the frontpage
now im hungry and nostalgic

>>4650876
zing

>>4655513
I still eat this like once a week, I am 21 years old
I am a man child

>>4651172
As usual amerifats try to appropriate other's shit. Fuck you very much.

>>4651786
Most certainly this fag never traveled farther than his basement.

>>4655497
is that a..

fucking hot dog in the crust

>>4655578
no, it is a sausage. or can you see a bun, mustard or onion baked into the crust?

>>4655581
>>4655578

>>4655583
that's nothing mang

>>4655588
>cream cheese pizza

excuse me while I go vomit

>>4655578
dominos started doing it in the UK.

Only reason i'll use them. It is damn tasty.

>>4655583
>free mustard drizzle

How generous.

>>4655588
not trying to compete, but here's a look at some interesting Korean pizzas

>>4655628
>Potato pizza
I'd get down on that.

>Loin crepe pizza
What the shit...

>>4651159
New York pizza is for picking up and eating, Chicago is for sitting down and eating. Simple as that.

>>4655659
A guy I know really digs the potato pizzas in worst korea.

>>4655628
those all look pretty standards except those bottom 2

>>4655659
yeah, apparently the potato pizza is delicious as fuck. As for the loins, I've read around and apparently it's like a cut of pork loin filled with sweet potato.
>>4655669
dude, please tell me where I can order sweet potato or chili shrimp pizza. Shit, even napoli, I would love to know what the hell is even on that.

>>4655659
yeah, I've heard the potato pizza is delicious as fuck. As for the loins, I've read around and apparently it's like a cut of pork loin filled with sweet potato.
>>4655669
dude, please tell me where I can order sweet potato or chili shrimp pizza. Shit, even napoli, I would love to know what the hell is even on that.

>>4654689
>focaccia bread

There was this badass pizza place in my city that sold pizzas only in half sizes because they were made on fresh baked focaccia. The crust was essentially deep dish because the bread was so awesome. In order to get a full pizza amount, you'd order two pizzas meaning you could choose two different flavors if you wanted to. Then they cut them into 2x4 squares and put them side by side. They had four different kinds of sauces, marinara, spicy, bbq, and alfredo as well as a shit load of fresh ingredients. I used to get caramelized onions, red peppers, and mushrooms on an alfredo pizza with extra cheese along side a marinara pizza with pineapple, bacon, and onions with extra cheese. I like cheese and I really miss Rettangolo's (half pizzeria half arcade with classic games - I think they closed down because the failed health inspection like a lot of restaurants in old buildings).

>mfw New Haven CT
>tfw lactose intolerant

>>4655773

Stop being so black

>>4655774
B...but I'm w-white (italian)

>>4656289
You're as white as zimmerman is.

>mfw all the best pizza chains originated in Michigan

>>4656289
hahahahaha

>>4656297
>le sad italian faec

>>4656310
>best pizza chain
that's like saying "my shits are the most flavorful shits in the entire world, please open your mouth and stand beneath me"
or something less graphic

>>4656377
best as in most successful

>>4656310
>pizza
>chains
gtfo