/ck/ - Food & Cooking

Four Roses Single Barrel here.

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>>4562006
pretty much like any kind of whiskey. If I had to pick favorites, I'd go with George T. Stagg or Balvenie Tun 1401 for all-time favorite, and Booker's or Blanton's Gold for best 'everyday' drink.

if you aren't drinking this you're getting ripped off bad.

>>4562009
This. I'm a big fan. Small batch is good too.

Caol Ila 12 and Dalwhinnie 15 with black label for apetizer.

I'm keeping to the /ck/ list of smooth whisky/whiskeys. Glenmorangie Lasanta is great, so is the Redbreast 12 Yr Irish Whisky.

Right now I'm on more of a rum binge, though.

I've been drinking a lot of tequila lately but I always come back to bourbon. My favorite for the money being EC12.

>>4562006
>>4562009
Good taste.

>>4564625
Old Crow Reserve is so ridiculously good at 2 dollars less than Bean.

Short of that, you had best jump to Bulleit or something even more expensive.

>>4562006
Got to say, quite liking Ardbeg's 10 year expression, gave Oban a try last week and wasn't a huge fan (although I did finish the bottle)

The Ardbeg 10 year is smooth and peaty, a fantastic combo IMO.

I got to talking with the old man behind the counter of the liquor shop and he recommended this bottle called Corner Creek. I tried it and it was undoubtedly the best stuff I've ever had, and it was only $20/750mL.

I pass it on to father in law who is really into that kind of stuff. He samples my bottle and immediately buys out the store.

That shit is good, hard to find though. If you fuckers spread this and screw up its pricing I'm going to be pissed.

Maker's Mark.

Good stuff.

not necessarily what I like but it's what I'm drinking. Love me some rum but fuck taking shots.

>>4565998
I am of the opinion that shots are for people who don't like liquor. Why drink something if you don't enjoy the flavour?

>>4564692
Could you post that list? I'm interested.

Drinking Ancnoc 12 year old at the moment, my all-time favourite has to be Lagavulin 16 year old though. I'm a big scotch drinker, but I don't mind a Japanese whiskey every now and again. They produce respectable whiskeys in the style of the Speyside single malts.

The Yamazaki 18 year old is also a nice drink, but possibly a bit peatier than your typical Speyside malt, but not to the degree of a peat-heavy Islay malt. It's also expensive as fuck and nigh-on impossible to get outside Japan.

Yes OP. Rare breed is the motherfucking shit.

>>4565881
What tequila you drinking? Just got a bottle of El Fogonero Anejo for Father's day

Hillbilly from Kentucky, here. I have quite a taste for Wild Turkey 101 because that's what my whole family drank growing up. I like Knob Creek, too.

>>4565902
>Bean
Pic related. Some nice "Bean".

As a poorfag in college I drank ungodly amounts of Evan Williams....

I really like Buffalo Trace. I'm obviously still a poorfag, but for $25 I think it's hard to beat (I think)
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I like Bulleit. They have a 10-year out now I see, but I've heard the huge price difference is not worth it. I think you can get a 1.75L bottle of the normal 7-year for the same price as (or less than) a bottle of the 10-year.

I just bought my Dad a bottle of Jura 16. He enjoys Scotch, but always sticks with his Glenlivet 12. He started drinking Maker's Mark too, but only because it's cheaper, I believe. I figured I'd get him something new, and in the same realm as Glenlivet style-wise (little to no peat, and no wine casking).

whats goodie for bottom shelf. I've become good friends with Junkie Evan.
I do love me some wild turkey though. specially on corn flakes.

>>4562006

What a coincidence. Here's what I'm drinking tonight.

It's fucking delicious and $21 to boot. I love my expensvie Scotch whisky, but for value, you simply cannot beat bourbon.

I'm not a whiskey guy. I work on an oil rig and there are some Scottish dudes, and they recommended me this one. Bought it for my dad and he says he likes it very much, he used to love Buchanan's above all whiskey but now this is the one he likes the most.

What is your opinion about Glenfiddich?

>>4566566
It varies but I'm a big fan of Tres Agaves blanco. I have yet to run across anything better for the money (although there is a ton of stuff I have yet to try).

Pappy Van Winkle is pretty baller.

>>4567993
It's ok for the most part, if a tad boring.

I prefer GlenDronach 15 year.

>>4567931
Evan Williams is actually pretty good for how cheap it is.

Bourbon: Bookers
Irish: Greenspot
Scottish: Lagavulin, Cragganmore, Talisker, Octomore

OP here. If you any of you are both bourbonfags and poorfags, give this one a try if you can find it. Old Heaven Hill Bonded. I get it for $8 a bottle, and it's pretty damn good. I believe it's 6 years old and anyway it's at least four. Any of the cheap bondeds by Heaven Hill are worth buying for very little money.

>>4567993

I'm a fan of Glenfiddich. Try the 15 year old solera version. It's a major upgrade and very tasty. The Glenlivet line is worth investigating too....same kind of flavor profile. The Nadurra and the 18 year are both fantastic and pretty good deals at least by the standards of single malts.

Jack Daniels ol' n°7

Y'all some hipster ass motherfuckers.

>>4568942
There's always someone who's proud of drinking shit. I don't get it.

"I'm so proud of not drinking something good. Oh, are you enjoy something not mass produced and tastes good? Fucking hipster cunt."

>>4568942
Jack Daniels is only fit for usage in chilis or as a deglazer. Alternatively, you can rub it on rashes and wounds.

>>4568942
Why would you be proud of consuming shit?

I once traded a nearly $200 Petsmart gift card to a Mormon for over $500 worth of booze. He won the alcohol as a door prize at a company party but, being Mormon, the hooch was wasted on him.
I got the gift card free because of a scam I ran on Petsmart; you know those cash off vouchers on receipts? Petsmart had them at the time, but the vouchers lacked any indication that they could not be stacked. I got nearly $200 worth of these vouchers over the course of a week (don't ask how) and stacked them all together to buy an expensive cat tree because I had a cat at the time. All I had to do was pay the tax in cash, no big.
The cat couldn't be fucked to use the thing, so I returned the tree. Petsmart refused to reimburse me the $200 in vouchers as cash, so they opted for a gift card for the price tag of the cat tree and reimbursed the tax in cash, just fine.

Anyway, amongst the booze the Mormon traded me was a bottle of Basil Hayden's as well as various other brands of various other types of alcohol. That was some pretty good bourbon. Try that, maybe?

If any of you ever get the chance to try a dusty of Jack from the 50's/60's when it was 90 proof and a few years older, make sure you do. Stuff is fantastic. Once you try it you will see why Sinatra and all the country superstars loved it.

>>4568953
If you like Basil's, give Grand Dad 114 a try. It's the same juice, but the 114 is a bit younger but much higher proof. Also, a good bit cheaper. Give 'er a try.

>>4568946
>>4568947
>>4568949
As I said. Hipster as shit. Jack is fucking delicious. Its a mans whiskey. All the other ahit I've tried is all sweet and girly. Might as well be drinking an potato martini.

>>4568979
Ever had an Islay?

>>4568979
Actually, I find Jack to be incredibly sweet as far as whiskey goes. It's like liquid candy, and is one of the reasons I and many others find it unpleasing. I will say the same goes for Makers...at least to my tongue.

>>4568963
I've never bought whiskey and haven't had a drop since I finished off that bottle of Basil's. Thanks for the recommendation, but I don't plan to buy any whiskey at any point in the future. If this changes, though, I'll give 114 a try. How best is it taken? I understand some bourbon's are best enjoyed neat, but cold, others on the rocks and yet others from a snifter, to be warmed by the palm, like a brandy. What of Grand Dad 114?

>>4568979

Jack is one of the sweetest whiskeys you can buy, even compared to popular bourbons. You're very silly.

I like Jack Daniels's occasionally but it's seriously overpriced for what it is.

>>4569020
It varies for me depending on mood, weather, etc. It's pretty high proof, so ice or water is definitely reasonable. It's also great in the winter in a snifter.

>>4568979
Jack is incredibly sweet and why would you be drinking Bourbon if you don't like sweet drinks that's ridiculous.

>>4569028
Thank you. I'll keep this in mind.

>>4568979
Pretty sure you have your bourbon on the rocks, right? The American way of making a beverage lose some of its flavor for superior "drinkability".

Bulleit Rye
Four Roses Single Barrel

Johnny Walker Black

That's what I've got in my stash currently. I've just started getting into whiskey/scotch

>>4569193
Jack Daniels is not even bourbon.

>>4569193

Wild Turkey on the rocks in summer is delicious.

>>4569256

While technically true, I think it's completely fine to include it as bourbon simply because otherwise we could only compare it to Dickel. It has the characteristics of bourbon. Similarly, I usually include Talisker when I'm comparing Islay scotch because it has a similar character and otherwise it wouldn't really be comparable to anything else.

>>4569265
Taslisker is like an Islay whisky like JD is like a bourbon.

You can compare them, but they are not the same. They share a few characteristics.

>>4569272

Fair enough. I still think the "Jack isn't bourbon!" thing is usually used a whiskey snob gotcha thing when anyone with a tongue can tell that Jack is clearly well within the agreed flavor profile of American bourbon whiskey.

Bulleit Rye.

>>4569293
How is this? I wasn't a huge fan of their bourbon, but I'm always interested in trying new rye especially since Wild Turkey dropped the proof on theirs to 80 and Rittenhouse is like hen's teeth in my area.

>>4569297
Have you had the 18 year Sazerac Rye?

Shit is expensive as fuck in Denmark. Fucking 450 dollars for a bottle.

>>4569297
Bulleit Rye is solid. Not the person you're asking, but I've bought it plenty of times.

>>4569299

Never had anything beyond the standard Sazerac. I enjoyed it though. I'm very hesitant to spend over ~$50usd on American whiskey. I feel like bourbon/rye have much higher diminishing returns to price than scotch or cognac.

Guy who is afraid that his girlfriend will think he's an alcoholic when he goes out buying whiskey here. The only Whiskey I have in my house is a cheap bottle of Jim Beam, the one with the white label. I got it as a gift so that's the only one I have and it's almost empty.

I really want to get into whiskey but for reasons above, I probably can't until sometime later this year.

>>4569308
Do you drink rum, by any chance?

>>4569309
You sound like a pussy. Will your girlfriend really think you are alcohol dependent if you have a drink of scotch once a week?

Grow some balls and talk some sense into her.

>>4569310

I sure do. Myers and Appleton are my usuals, but Ron Zacapa is my favorite. Hell, it's probably the tastiest alcohol I've ever consumed.

And yourself?

>>4569317
I started on a bottle of Ron Zacapa XO last week. That stuff is beyond amazing. I am still on the lookout for a bottle of Ron Millonario XO.

Have you had the Millonario by any chance?

>>4569309
Since whiskey is supposed to be served room temp, you can hide it anywhere. Also, I had the same problem as you, but then my gf realized I legitimately enjoy beer. She doesn't give a shit as long as I'm not trashed off my ass. Which only happens when the booze is free. Or if we play Rockband.

>>4569324
Don't tell him to hide it. If she discovers he is hiding booze, that makes it seem 100x worse.

>>4569325
Yeah I didn't really think about that part.
>>4569309
Just don't be a pussy and tell her you like whiskey. If she doesn't approve of alcohol, she's too uptight anyway.

>>4569323
I have not. Never even seen it in my area. I live in a severely liquor deprived part of this great land. I'll be honest...I'm having trouble wrapping my mind around the fact that Zacapa makes stuff that is supposed to be even better than XO. I don't know if I could handle that.

>>4569330
Most liquor can be ordered online, if you are having problems finding some.

Are talking about the Zacapa 30 year?

>>4569333

No online ordering allowed in my state. Swear to god. Pennsylvania is a backwards hellhole when it comes to fine spirits.

>>4569309
Don't hide alcohol or drink in secret. That will make you seem like an alcoholic.

Just purchase a bottle, put it where it belongs, and if she asks, tell her like it is.

Also, don't drink to often. A bottle of good scotch should last a few months.

>>4569337
Seriously? No online ordering? What the hell kind of shit is that? How about having an out-of-state friend order it, and then ship it to you?

>>4569342
All of our stores are state owned. We can order through them, but it's such a gigantic pain in the ass. My buddies and I do take periodic booze hunting adventures into Maryland and West Virginia, though. We mainly look for bourbon.

>>4569348
That sounds like fun. I go to Copenhagen with some friends about once a month and we look for exciting craft beers in the different small shops around town. We always get a great lunch and then go back to my place to drink expensive beer and watch good movies.

Good times.

>>4569357
It truly is a good time. Our biggest success was finding a stash of Old Grand Dad, Four Roses, Beam White Label, and Kentucky Tavern from the 50's-60's in this tiny shack of a liquor store in extreme rural Maryland.

>>4569365
That sounds like it would be worth quite a bit of money.

Some collectors will pay huge amounts of money for vintage bottles.

>>4569368
Probably. I have a terrible addiction to collecting, so I kept my share. I've got a bit of a dusty collection built up. My favorites are bonded Grand Dad....well, bonded anything to be honest, and the 90 proof Jack.

>>4569375
Could you maybe share some pics? I am very interdasted.

old grandad bourbon is the worst piss ive ever had

>>4569382
I'm at work right now, but I will when I get home in a few hours. To be honest, with the exception of a few, most of the older stuff doesn't taste THAT much different from some contemporary whiskeys. Look for bottom shelf, high proof bottles with ancient looking labels. Anything bottled in bond has been relatively stable over time in my experience.

>>4569391

Whiskey philistine. Grand Dad bonded is great, great stuff.

>>4569393

>whiskey
>philistine

i actually like whisky, not donkey bile.

you must be a hick

>>4569400

I like whiskey not bullshit marketing hype and fancy labels.

>>4569402
>I don't understand something
>Let's call it fancy and call its aficionados gullible
lel

>>4569391
come on dawg.

some friends gifted me a bottle of diplomatico reserva.
now i'm no expert on rum, or any liquor for that matter, but i really start to like it.

>>4569420
It is very good mid-level stuff.

Next time, try the 23 year old Ron Zacapa.

>>4569408
Yeah, I don't understand it. That's why I've got Blanton's, Pappy, Rare Breed, and Four Roses SB on my bar. Fact is, Grand Dad Bottled in Bond (the 86 proof is pretty dismal) is a very, very solid bourbon for a great price.

>>4569426
Which Pappy?

>>4569420
I enjoyed the bottle of this I had. Like the guy above said, not as good as Zacapa in my opinion, but still a very nice rum. You have good friends.

>>4569432
20 year. I've also gone through a few of the 10 year 107 proof Old Rip's. That's some good stuff too. Which Pappy's are you into?

>>4569440
I've got 2 bottles of the 20 year and one of the 15. I have not opened any yet.

>>4569456
You owe to yourself to open one of the 20's. Really fantastic stuff. I know the Van Winkle line has turned into a major hype thing lately, but it IS really good. Incredible even.

>>4569468
I have not purchased the 10 year. I have this thing were I don't purchase screw cap whisky.

Something about not having a cork stopper makes it feel cheap.

>>4569484
I think the beautiful thing about bourbon is that even the very cheapest stuff, as long as it's straight bourbon and not blended, is very solid. It's a pretty tightly controlled and narrowly defined style of booze. Van Winkle 10 would be a good first screw cap bottle for you. The extra proof really brings some flavor.

I just made the mistake of trying my bourbon with an ice cube. It's really like all of you say, it completely ruins it. Now it tastes like ice water with smoky sweet aftertaste.

>>4569497
Was it purified or tap?

>>4569493
How does it compare with standard Buffalo Trace? The Winkle 10 is twice the price.

>>4569500

Tap.

>>4569500
Yikes! It's only about $8 more in my area. Try to find a bottle of Weller Antique. Should be a good bit cheaper than Van Winkle, but is very, very similar. I'm almost positive it's the same juice just a different age. Still 107 proof. Hard to compare either to Buffalo Trace, because Van Winkle and Weller are made with wheat instead of rye. Both are tasty, tasty whiskeys though.

>>4569512
A bottle of 10 year van winkle is 150 dollars in Denmark. The 20 is 250 and the 15 is 300 dollars.

>>4569529

That's.....steep. How much do standard bottles like Beam, Wild Turkey, or Four Roses go for? I will say that the Kentucky Bourbon Trail is a most excellent vacation destination if you're ever in this part of the world.

>>4569547
If I am in America, It is either in Beverly Hills, or San Diego...

A bottle of Four Roses is 30 dollars.

>>4569547
>>4569569

Typo, a bottle of Four Roses is 50 dollars.

>>4569574
D-d-d-d-d-d-damn. And I felt like I was getting ripped off when my favorite liquor store raised the price on Wild Turkey to $20. You are dedicated. My hat is off to you.

>>4569578
What are Scotch prices in your area?

For reference, a bottle of Ardbeg Uigeadail is 110 Dollars in Denmark.

>>4569582

Single malts start at about $40 with the standard Glens and goes up quickly from there. Uigeadail is right around $90-$100. My favorite scotch is probably the Glenlivet Nadurra and that hovers around $65. Laphroaig 10 is a particular value here and is usually the same price as Glenlivet/Glenfiddich 12.

>>4569590
What's the most you've ever spent on a single bottle of any alcohol?

>>4569594

$110 for Pappy 20 and $200-something for Macallan 18 (though that was for my best friend's wedding as I don't much care for heavily sherried scotch). And yourself? How about your favorites?

>>4569601
I really enjoy older GlenDronachs and other highland semi-sweet highlanders as well as Ardbegs and older Bowmores. I can not speak about the Pappys as I have not opened them yet.

The most I spent on a single bottle was 1500 Dollars. It was a Rare Malt Selection 20 year old Coal Ila from 1975.

>>4569609
>highland semi sweet highlanders

I am not drunk, I swear.

>>4565881
This everytime. I'm a fan of makers mark as well.

>>4569609

You are on entire other level, my man. Very cool. I've never had a GlenDronach....never even seen one on a shelf. I will keep my eyes open though. I do love a nice scotch. I think a good single malt is definitely more complex than even the best bourbon. However, I love the fact that I can get a bottle of bourbon for $10 here and have it be very tasty. Bourbon has a much superior quality-to-price ratio here in America for obvious reasons.

>>4569618
Have you tried Makers 46? If you like Elijag Craig and regular Makers I would imagine you'd really like the 46.

>>4569622
Don't knock bourbon too much. Pappy 20 is a lot better than many good single malts.

I can't recommend the GlenDronach 15 Year Revival enough. It is an amazing single malt for a very approachable price. If you see it, grab a bottle.

>>4569640
Thanks for the rec. Ever had Glenfiddich 15? I found that to be a pretty fantastic drink.

>>4569647
It's an alright mid tier scotch. I've never really been a Fiddich fan. As I said, I much prefer GlenDronach. The are really really good at choosing their aging wood.

>>4569640
Seconding this.

Bought a bottle based on reviews.Its great stuff. I dont drink whisky too often, and havent tried that many, but this is definitely good for the price.

The flavour is rich and warming, and it slides down so smoothly. And for only £40, I think its great value for money.

>>4568929
Had some of that as my first bourbon. It got markedly better once the bottle was half gone and the rest of it oxidized enough of the harshness away. But before that, it was just harsh and nasty.

How do you guys prevent oxidization on your open bottles?

>>4572089
Drink em fast.

>>4572089
By replacing the liquid with an inert gas.

>>4572100
Anything other than that? It takes me a good few years to get through a bottle.

Knob is overrated. Maker's Mark, RedBreast, Van Winkle for my favorites

>>4572110

Years? Do you drink a thimblefull once every full moon?

If you really want to keep it for that long, decant the bottle into two 375 ml decanters to minimize air contact with the spirit.

Or just drink it faster.

>>4572110
Decant bottle into smaller bottles with no airspace.

>>4572126
I have a lot of bottles and I drink only about a glass a week.

I've been drinking roughly a fifth of Wild Turkey every day for a few years now. Good shit.

>>4572148
That can't possibly be healthy.

>>4572153
Probably not. Fun though.

>>4572148
It's posts like this that make me feel better about my nightcap.

>>4562009
i drink a lot of this too.