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went to Florence when I was 14, did a lot to help the love

>When did you start enjoying coffee, /ck/?

5 years old, thanks nona. Mother was than pleased.

>>4481460

>5 years old

that's pretty young isn't it?

On Wikipedia, I read that in Italy parents serve their children latte macchiato for breakfast. I found that to be concerning, somehow

Sup neighbor. I live in Heidelberg :3 Welcome to the wonderful world of coffee. Now try to taste real coffee, go from your occasional Caffé Latte or Cappuccino to an Espresso Macchiato, or Americano, then maybe just an Espresso and just pure black coffee. Also try going to Starbucks, their coffee/espresso is surprisingly good. Just ignore all the over-sweetened shit. And the Frappuccinos.

Coffee is an acquired taste, so it's pretty natural not to enjoy it when you're younger and for it to get better and better the first few times.

Also, black coffee is meant to be served as-is, with only hot water added, no milk, sweetner or anything. So it's pretty much a given that it tasted terrible if you tried that.

Also, a coffee protip for home brewers: shake the milk carton for 20 seconds, then pour the milk. You'll get a makeshift foam.

When I was little, and I was undiagnosed with my ADD at the time. (Idiot doctors didn't realise it goes hand in hand with dysgraphea) parents found out that it calmed me down when they gave it to me after a neb treatment. I've been addicted since. I personaly love capichinos and latte's mostly, but I won't say no to a cup of coffee as long as it's not sweetened with artifical sweetener.

Started liking it when I had a Summer job when I was 18. It was a really shitty data-entry job so I needed something to keep me going. Also, making coffee for the office meant I could take a break.

I started working a late shift at the hospital when I was in college. I actually preferred the cafeteria Folgers brewed over the Starbucks.

Why dont people like bitter coffee? I hate milk in my coffee, I prefer black with a bunch of sugar. Though that American black coffee you'd find in diners is disgusting. Proper dark coffee is Arabic/Turkish coffee or Espresso.

>>4481480

I thought a Cappuccino already containts Espresso, wo what's the point in going from Cappuccino to Espresso Macchiato which also contains Espresso but more milk by definition?

>>4481503

oops, brainfarts
*contains
*so

I'm kinda afraid of black coffee tbh, it tastes so strong for me - that's why I like it being watered down a bit with milk or well, water.

Sweetened Coffee is out of the question for me anyways since I've been on keto for 3 years now. (There's some delicious sugar free syrup though)

>>4481460
>nona
What country are you from? Some people might believe you're Italian but "nona" is not an Italian word. Are you an ItaloAmerican?
The only language I know that has a similar word is Indo/Malay, where it means something akin to "auntie" (IE a female friend of one's parents who is not a blood relative) and that's only in some dialectical pronunciations, at that.

>>4481468
Yes and no. It's generally more a southern thing than anywhere else, particular in and around Naples. Kids are given 'orzo bimbo,' dark-roasted barley which is then ground into ground-coffee-like consistency and brewed as one would brew coffee. This is to make them not feel left out as mum has coffee for herself and guests.
About kids not feeling left out: kids in other countries tend to be given the generally fuck off while mum goes off to do her thing, if only for a few hours. The Italian mother, however, is hawkeyed and vigilant, keeping watch over her child, her only reason to live, really, like white on rice. Because of this over-involvement, many kids Italy tend to be "mammoni," or "mummy's boys" (even if their girls). Orzo bimo is a way for Italian mothers to coddle their children even more. Doing this, however, will most certainly yield "bamboccioni" or "man-children." This is why Italy has the lowest birth-rate in Europe: cuz Italian mothers coddle their kids for-fucking-ever, then you have 40-something virgin single men living with mum. Then mummy, in her infinite wisdom, still can't figure out why oh why she has no grandkids.

Goddamn, my country's culture sucks hard.
Anyway: pic related. It's orzo bimbo.

>drinking anything weaker than black espresso
Kill yourself.

>>4481506
You're thinking latte macchiato. Latte macchiato means "splotched milk" or "spotted milk." It's a glass of foamed milk splotched with a shot of espresso poured into its centre.
Espresso macchiato is the opposite: a demitasse of espresso splotched with a just a tad of foamed milk.
Pic related is a latte macchiato.

>>4481538
And this is espresso macchiato. In Italy, when someone says "macchiato," we generally mean espresso macchiato.

>grandma has stroke two years ago
>meet dad in Vancouver (where she was in a hospital) to visit with her
>after visiting grandma we'd get coffee
>start meeting in mornings for coffee
>coffee at morning, coffee before bed
>get back home
>buy french press next day

I was 20 years old, in my 3rd year of engineering and I had never had coffee before. Now I drink a litre every morning and maybe another on weekends. Grandma is still alive and kicking, in case you were curious.

>Be 17
>Be in Venice
>Very tired, tour guide says he knows what will perk me up
>Takes me and another guy to this coffee shop
>Orders two "dublio restrittos"
>Drink it one sip
>Completely wired the rest of the day
Never found anyone in America that knows how to make it. It really saddens me.

>>4481638
Bullshit. "Ristretto" is used in southern Italian parlance. In Venice, very much a northern city, it would be called 'corto.'
Furthermore, who doesn't know how to make a double short-black? Enough grounds for four shots, pull enough water for only two. That's it.

Anybody have a guide (or willing to write one up) for how somebody can into coffee? I'm not a fan of hot or bitter drinks, but I reckon it's pretty important to be able to order a coffee at a cafe and be able to drink it without cringing.

>>4481652
ItaliAnon here.
If you don't like, you don't like it. You needn't force yourself. More coffee for us!
If you really wanna try, though... I guess start with something sweet and milky and cold. Do not try so-called "cold-brewed" coffee. It tastes like a basement, but people on /ck/ for some reason tout its praises. It's just awful. Truly wretched. An absolute abomination to the senses.

>>4481652
Maybe try it with milk and as much sugar as you need to add to make it drinkable, and then slowly remove the milk and sugar? Not really worth the effort though, people won't look down on you for ordering tea if you prefer that.

may be a noob question but what is the closes hot form of ice cream coffee? the thick cream/ice cream texture with the bitter but sweet aftertaste is amazing and if there is something like this that i can drink during the winter would be awesome

>>4481687
I'm not sure I understand. Try google image search for "affogato al caffe" and lemme know if that's what you mean. It's hot, fresh-brewed espresso or moka poured over a spoonful of ice cream.

>>4481652

1. Drink good coffee (and no, starbucks does not count, nor does instant supermarket coffee). Look up local cafes, find one that seems to be getting consistently good reviews, and head there.
2. Order something simple, like an espresso. Save the sophisticated stuff until you've got the hang of it.
3. Like I said earlier, coffee is an aquired taste, so you'll need to do this a few times before you begin to like it.

>>4481698
thats a good start, ill keep a look out for it when im out

>in freshmen year of high school
>every night staying up til midnight and waking up at six the next day
>mom makes a pot of coffee everyday, see her and my sister drink it errday
>decide to learn to like it
>datbuzz.jpeg
>drink it everyday with creamer and splenda
> get addicted
>almost beat girlfriend when she takes my coffee as a joke
>realize i might have a problem
>no shits given, go to college
>get a Keurig since school coffee is watered down bullshit
>no creamer or splenda, teach myself to like it black
>coffee now tastes better black than loaded with sugar or creamer
>fucking love coffee

Someday I'll go to these famous places and drink those expensive delicious shits everyone is talking about. Until then, I'll keep being poor and drinking it black.

>>4481687
literally just load up a regular cup of coffee with sugar and cream and whip the fuck outta it. Its that easy

>>4481703
>acquired taste
Maybe I've a genetic or cultural predisposition, but I can't remember a single point in my life where I didn't like coffee.

>>4481706

>datbuzz.jpeg
>coffee

You sound a bit younger than Freshman year of High School, son.

Also, you write like a teenager from 420chan. So, yea, you should probably be heading back in that general direction.

>>4481718
Hey, it was the first time I ever drank anything with a significant amount of caffeine in it, I was freaking out after half a cup. Lived a boring life.

I can now drink almost a whole pot and it just wakes me up.

also I'm socially autistic as fuck, so I don't give two shits what I sound like.

>>4481726
>socially autistic
...

Coffee should be black. You should embrace it's flavour rather than try to conceal it with sugar and milk. Really, what the fuck...

I used to have a sort of café au lait for breakfast ever since I was 10 years old. Back then I drank a "teardrop", which is 90% milk and some drops of coffee.

15 years later, I drink black coffee, no sugar.


I read somewhere that as you age, you become more perceptive to bitter flavors, so that might explain why young children dislike greens in general and coffee. Or some pseudo cientific bullshit like that.

>captcha yoursuga History

Used to hate coffee until I was 16.
Had a party, partied all night (Mind you, I'm Dutch, our legal drinking / smoking age is 16.)
Woke up the next day hungover as fuck.
Friend offered to make me some coffee. "Ugh, fine."
added some sugar. Jesus christ. So goddamn delicious. And from that day forth, I made it a habit to drink coffee every single day. I'm 20 now, and I still love it. Every variety.

>>4481726

420chan doesn't have a /caff/ board yet?

OP sounds like he became addicted.
Do the people here drink coffee because they like the taste or because they feel a compulsion to? Or can some of you not tell the difference annymore?

>>4481468
eat a dick faggot

stay out of my family life

>>4481431
iced coffee all day every day

>>4481503

Macchiato has almost no milk, just a mark of foam.

>>4481737

Or it can be used in other ways. For tastings it's black.

>>4481788
I enjoy the taste of coffee, but I make it a point to have no more than 1 cup a day unles its a special occasion. (Like if I am taking a test or something.)

I have noticed that the caffeine doesn't affect me much, even espresso. Maybe I'm just not getting a good enough coffee.

On another note, what would /ck/ recommend for an electric percolator? I've noticed it makes better coffee than a drip maker.

>>4481788

I wouldn't say addicted, I just fancy some coffee in the morning now, it's not like I need it at any other time. It's just right after I got up that I - for some unapparent reason - would like to drink some coffee and milk.

I don't know where it comes from. I wouldn't say I'm already addicted, though because I only drank like 5-6 coffees in total, ever, so far.

>>4481528
>Because of this over-involvement, many kids Italy tend to be "mammoni," or "mummy's boys" (even if their girls).

i felt i had a pretty good grasp on fellini's 8½ before, but your post explained a lot. i didn't know it was culturally rooted. this probably explains the film's resonation with audience, too

>>4481886
Yeah. It's a problem.

Another problem is that I used "their" when I meant "they're" there. I hate to use "non-native speaker" as an excuse, because I correct my students with their Italian all the time but...
Not a native speaker. Derp.

>drink over sweetened/cream-filled coffee to feel older (probably 12 at the time)
>level off to one cream one sugar
>realize I'm using coffee for purely utilitarian means
>Now I microwave water for 35 seconds, dump in instant coffee, then down it

The only drinks I savor now are either ice cream drinks or alcoholic.

About 12 or so i think
I used to have it how my dad has it, instant w/ two sugars and milk

Now i drink it black without sugar most of the time, from a french press if i'm at home, or double espresso if i'm out

Although occasionally I have it like my dad does, instant, milk, two sugars

occasionally a cappuccino if i fancy changing it up a bit

Gonna buy a grinder soon, i've been using pre-ground because i couldn't be bothered to grind but I feel it's time for me to take the next step

I was at a coffee shop after school frequently like 8 years ago, it was cheaper to get a bottomless cup of coffee than to order an italian soda or tea each time.

I started drinking coffee regularly (once a day) about 2 years ago and kept on drinking it up until about 5 months ago.

I made really strong black coffee, and drank it with 2 packets of sweet n low. no milk. but if I was at a cafe or whatever, I'd drink straight up black coffee. my brother got me into espresso, and I'll have that very rarely.

I still drink coffee about once a week, but i stick to tea now.

Just as I finally started getting good beans and making it with a coffee press, and started to finally discover how good it could taste, it started giving me heart palpitations. I already have them from time to time and they last 5-10 minutes. The good coffee made them happen much more often.

I have good coffee but I am afraid to drink it. This is probably a punishment and I am in hell.

I'm 23. I've always liked coffee, but my mom would never let me have it until I was 16, because she believed folktales about it stunting my growth.

Cappuccino is absolutely delicious, and probably my favorite coffee-based drink, but I tend to just drink some dark roast crap my mom buys with a little bit of sugar and milk.

I always feel better after drinking a cup of coffee; it must be psychological, because other manners of caffeine don't do much for me.

Last two years of high school.

Mostly drink black. Used to drink with milk but nowadays it just tastes washed out.

How is German coffee? Is it like American/British where it's just heated water or more like how Northern Europe drink their coffee?

At 15 I was on vacation and wanted to seem mature for some reason so I got a cup of coffee and drank that shit even though I didn't really enjoy the bitterness. I added 4 packets of equal and a bunch of milk and it was too much but drank it anyway.

Also the fact that I'm a T1 Diabetic and coffee is a drink I can drink without giving insulin.

>>4481638
It's because you're saying it wrong. Everyone at coffeeshops know how to make a double ristretto.

florian in st mark's square venice
best espresso in the world, i swear to god
expensive as shit though

they serve it only just hot so you can drink it straight away. i prefer it like that but it tends to cause outrage among the foreign clientele

>>4482267
... I find Swedish/Finnish/Norwegian coffee to be on the same level of piss-poor weakness as Brit/Irish/American coffee.
I've never had coffee in Danmark. In Germany, however, the coffee is a bit stronger and can be quite good, though not as good as the Netherlands, Switzerland or Austria (dat Wiener melange).

>>4482305
Really?

I'm Swedish myself. New York coffee was very tasteless I found.
From friends experiences British and Japanese have heated water coffee too.

>>4482317
Yeah, sorry to say. I love the whole culture surrounded Swedish coffee, but don't care for it myself. I find it to be as you describe it: heated water.
I've had Japanese coffee in Hong Kong (I've never been to Japan) and America and found it each time to be pretty good. As for the US in general:

America has a bizarre notion on coffee. While very good coffee can be found in America, what many Americans considered to be "good," I found sour and atrocious (Blue Bottle and Stumptown being two better-known examples of "good coffee" that I find sour). Another problem is that coffee is treated in America as a specialty thing, not as something every day. Because of this, unless you go to a specialty coffee place in the US, you're likely to get brown-coloured water. Even if you go to a specialty coffee place, there's no guarantee it will be good. This is the problem. On average, I'd say that Swedish coffee is better than American, absolutely, however a good American specialty coffee place will beat out any in Sweden, but those specialty places are few and far between.
Similarly, US chocolate on average is amongst the worst I've ever had, however there are a few specialty chocolate manufacturers that blow things from Switzerland out of the water. The number of these manufacturers, however, can be counted on one's fingers.

I can't say which country has the best average coffee as I'm likely culturally biased with my answer, but Sweden is, on average, better than the US.

>>4482317

NYC has pretty shitty coffee (outside a few spots) even compared to the west coast. It's just not a big thing here.

>>4482342
We are all allowed to have our own opinions.
Just always had the belief that Scandinavian coffee is pretty strong. Mostly coming from my friends experiences abroad, and my visit to NY.

There seems to be quite a few articles on the internet about it too. Curious.

idki started drinking it regularly when i was like 11, i never used sugar but from time to time milk or cream are fiiine. most of my life i drank moka or espresso machine coffee
in the summer i always get iced shaked coffee, and at school i live off of the coffee machine shitty espresso or ginseng flavored caffé macchiato
i also never particularly appreciated cappuccino, i don't know why so many people seem to love it here in italy

Ten years old.
Started drinking coffee black.

Mostly I wanted to "be like dad", but then I started to legitimately love it.

Tim Hortons

>>4481536
Stop being weak.

I like my coffee like I like my women

>>4484915
my nigga

>>4484915
ground up in a can

>>4484915
>strong
>black
>proud

>>4484915

Jesus, worked in coffeeshops for years, so many bad ones.

Only good one is 'thrown in a burlap sack and slung over the back of a peasant's donkey'

>>4484915
Nigga/10

>>4485143
I like "black and fair trade."

>>4484915
tell it gurl.

First drank some with milk and sugar, soon dropped the milk because I realized I didn't actually taste the coffee.
After that I kinda grew on coffee and dropped the sugar because that also took away from the taste of coffee.

>>4485154
This is the natural order of things. A great journey to coffee maturity.
I am glad to have the same path as you anon.

>>4481788
during the day I crave drinking coffee for no reason. I quite enjoy it but I drink too much.
It depends of the season, though. During cold seasons I get around 4 cups a day, or two big cups and 2 or three small cups. On summer, one per day.

also >people who never tasted coffee until they were adults
what the hell, I started drinking it regularly at around 12.

>>4485357
wow, I fucked up green text.

>>4484915
liquid?

I had really bad migraines when I was young, and the doctor said it could be solved with some really complex medicine combination or just caffeine. After that, my mom took me to the local coffee shop and got me just a regular coffee, and luckily enough I loved it

>>4485523

This. Got horrible, horrible ones. Then a doctor told me to slam 2 Mountain Dews with aspirin and a cold towel on the neck. Worked most of the time.

If you still get them, get Imotrex, shit really does work

>>4485525
Nah, I grew out of them about a year after that. Still drank coffee, though. I'll tell my friend about Imotrex, though he's been getting them bad for a while. Thanks, man

>>4485525
Was this guy your doctor?

>>4485534

No worries - the reason to use it is it decreases frequency when you do get them. Anyone thinks they know pain and hasn't had severe migraines . . . .

>>4485612

Heh no - it was over the phone (I was too light sensitive to drive), and it was the most caffinated thing available. What's funny is I hate soda, and especially Mountain Dew, now.

My relationship with coffee is unclear to me, but I drink it quite often.
I feel really obligated to get into coffee from the culture I live in, not just that everyone around me constantly drinks it or that it's a pretty standard accessible social experience, As in around if you want to connect with someone, meet them for coffee.
The high obligation for me also comes from the touted health benefits and effects of coffee, or caffeine. I mainly drink it in hopes of it giving me energy, alertness, etc all those things. Though really I find that coffee really doesn't affect me in that way, but I keep trying.
I do actually like coffee, I guess. I find the taste of it to be really acquired and really not very good, yet I keep drinking it. The first times I tried coffee I thought it was absurdly awful. But influence of everyone else drinking it and that it gives you energy made me keep trying.
My preference and what I drink most is black coffee even though it doesn't taste good in my opinion, I'm not comfortable loading it with diary and sugars to make it taste better. I am confused by my relationship with coffee but whatever, I drink it anyway and I roll with it.

Cappuccinos + Pastry/Pie/Etc is pretty A+
Macchiatos
I fancy Cold Brew with no added dairy or sugar.

Also, I go after Espresso as a flavor or ingredient in all other things like pastries, candies, ice cream, etc. I really like
espresso/coffee flavored non-beverages.

Though I mostly drink black drip coffee, whilst totally disliking it but wanting to drink it anyway. It's kind of like
I am convinced it's medicine or something.

>>4481528
thanks for your post

posted this in another thread but hopefully someone here can help me aswell:

AYO /ck/ can someone lend me a helping hand.
About a month ago I did a one day course in preparing espresso coffee where we made all of the basics coffee's and learnt basic machine maintenance and all of that.

Today I have an interview for a barista position at a cafe and I was wondering if anyone knew some great rules of thumb or could link me some basic guides for making decent coffee and possibly how to make coffee art (we didn't really go over this, especially not the type of silky milk needed for different coffee's, we just kind of frothed it up and then scraped the foam we needed onto the top of the coffee after pouring the milk, is this okay to do?)

Please help, I really do like coffee and I need a part time job while I'm studying but I'm worried that I will barely be able to make a coffee or answer more in depth questions when I'm interviewed, as I'm not sure of the standards of barista they're hiring (no cafe experience for me)

Thank's for any help

>>4481620
Coffee can actually help in regulation of post stroke and post cardiovascular diseases with regards to both blood flow and vascular quality.

The more you know!

Caffeine stimulates my metabolism and makes me feel full when I'm really not. I'm trying to gain weight not lose it.

>>4487066
You people are pathetic.

I bet the best part of waking up is folgers in your cup you fucking monkey ass niggers.

Mu... s... t ... g e t ... cof... eee......

fellow Germanfriend here
>never tried coffee until I was done with school, 18 years old
>try black coffee with sugar
>feelsgoodman.jpg
>have a cup every morning before work (BFD/federal volunteer service)
>developing a severe caffeine addiction atm (AfriCola, Mate and coffee)
>no fucks were given. still love it black.

>>4490204
Do you goosestep while drinking taking your black with your pinky out?

>>4484915
Served by a maid every morning?

>>4490225
Black, bitter, preferably fairtrade.

Never, despite being in Washington, home of starbucks.

anyone care to suggest something to a guy who hates bitter things, and is constantly exhausted/needs caffeine?