/ck/ - Food & Cooking

First!

>>4430378
there are 2 pickles on there btw
not just one for the pic
you can see the other slice from this angle

We get it. You have a gun. Woop de fucking do.

>>4430378

There has been a SERIOUS influx of shitposting around kaiser rolls lately.

Do you also bring that .357 to work also? mmmmmmmm

hey progun haven't seen you around for while. How you doin buddy?

>Not a wrap

So I take it that you lost your penis in some kind of freak bowling accident, yes?

>>4430398
i do also bring that .357 to work sometimes also, yes, but usually my XD-40
>>4430403
i'm always around. doing fine.
how are you?

>>4430406
pretty good kind been head down working for awhile i think its time to come up for a breath.

Your sandwich looks awesome I'd hit that.

bar the miracle whip, that looks pretty good

>>4430406
do you wrap your lunch sandwich up with foil instead of sarand wrap or a ziploc bag?

>Not eating an America burger

Are you a communist?

I usually bring a curry, if I have one made, or some pasta and pesto.

>>4430419
restaurant quality sandwich isn't fair. i'm wrapping this shit up for lunch the next day.
>>4430425
depends on the size

>>4430426
Our country sucks ass. I can hardly make my way through the hoards of fat shit retards on the sidewalk.

Buy some corn tortillas, bake them until they're crisp, and put it in the sandwich. Thank me later

>>4430435
That looks really wet and gross. Toast it, if for no better reason than to dry it up a bit.

Hey anon, how do you pack your lunch?

>>4430435
lol no man i don't eat like that at work i don't eat at work at all really.

sourdough or baguette with dijon mustard, Genoa salami, brie, jalapenos and banana peppers. So good.

>>4430476
it was still a superior sandwich

Usually buy Boars Head meat and make sandwiches from it, been using bagels recently. generally just buy whichever roast beef or turkey is on sale that week

>>4430378
>make sandwich the night before
>soggy shitpile
>working on the lord's day

>speed loader

casual

>being at work at 3 AM on a sunday
>having to bring a gun to work to feel safe
>fast food

Sometimes when I'm feeling bad, I come to /ck/ and it reminds me that someone, somewhere, always has it worse than me.

>>4431146
>having to bring a gun to work to feel safe

It might shock you, but there's millions of people that carry a gun every day whether they feel safe or not.
They might just be walking the dog around the block in their own neighborhood or going to 7-11 down the street.
Its about being responsible for your own safety and the safety of those around you.

Police don't prevent crime, they attempt to solve crime and punish the individuals that commit it.
There's not going to be anyone there to protect you when deshawn brown decides to knock over the minimart while you're getting your morning coffee and Hostess® Frosted Honey Bun™
Some people like to be responsible for their own safety

>>4431286
/pol/ please go

>>4431286
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tacoma_Mall_shooting

>>4431286

Ah yes, the "government is too weak to handle law enforcement" argument. And yet they're so damm strong they're gonna come into 300 million homes and make everyone renounce Christ and give up their guns.

Which is it? Make up your mind, please.

Salad with blue cheese and hard boiled eggs

Rice balls with salmon and avocade

Homemade sushi

>>4430378

Looks tasty as hell. Glad to see some others that enjoy Miracle Whip. Most of my friends or even people I see posting online always talk shit about Miracle Whip for some reason.

>>4431286

And the fact very few guns prevent crimes, and are more likely to kill a family member rather than an intruder never penetrates that fantasy.

Just admit guns are for small dicks and being scared of a fist fight.

That's not even a real gun, OP. I'd be impressed if it was though.

For lunch, I usually make a salad.

>>4431300

Because it's a disgusting candy version of mayo beloved by midwesterners notorious for their bad taste (hotdish??).

>>4431303
Let me guess, you support the Brady Bunch?

>>4431296
>>4431303
not trying to make this a gun control debate. just stating fact, but obviously a house with a gun in it is more likely to have a resident shot with a gun. accidents happen.
if you didn't have a pool no one would drown in your yard and if you didn't have kitchen knives no one would accidentally cut themselves and if you didn't have tables and chairs you'd never stub you toe.
statistics can be very misleading

>>4431334

No, but Alice is a hardcore motherfucker

>>4431338

Except nobody harbors the delusion that having a swimming pool is going to make you safer from death by drowning. But gunfags seem to have this collective delusion that the ooga booga boogyman is the only possible way they or their loved ones are going to get shot. Whereas in fact, more likely, little 6 year old bobby joe is going to shoot little 7 year old cletus in the face when he finds the loaded gun under the mattress when mommy and daddy are out mud ridin'.

>>4431338

A kitchen knife has other uses. You can swim in a pool. You're just simply very unlikely to shoot an intruder, so much so that you're more likely to shoot a family member, or most likely yourself. Those statistics aren't misleading, it's just the simple truth.

>>4431348
>>4431347
I think you're forgetting the reason why we were given guns in the first place

>>4431347
It CAN happen and that's why I own a gun. I don't want to have to rely on a 10+ min police response time to make sure me and my family is safe.

>>4431355
>we were given guns

What kind of confused revisionist history is this?

>>4431348
>implying guns don't have alternative uses.
Many guns are designed for the sole purpose of target shooting. A hobby of many people.

>>4431347

Who cares?

>>4431359

You've made your family much less safe by the math, faggot. Just admit you're a whiny bitch who wants to feel tough but is scared of fighting.

>>4431372

And any gun designed for target shooting is going to make a piss-poor home defense weapon.

Stop rationalizing and just admit that you like guns because they're cool. I think they're cool too. Most people, in fact, also think so. Coming up with bullshit excuses like durr durr founding fathers and the boogyman is comin to git ya just makes you sound like you're not responsible enough to own one.

>>4431376
If you're unwilling to kill to save your babies, you should be deemed negligent and have your children given to a proper safety-conscious family.

>>4431355

Yes, because your .22 is going to take down a blackhawk helicopter.

The purpose of the 2nd Amendment WAS to make violent revolution possible. And it's totally an anachronism in the nuclear age. Unless you want people having RPGs, stop pretending your firearm prevents government tyranny.

>>4431347
Well if you're that retarded to leave a loaded gun in access to a child, though hidden, and your 6 and 7 year old home alone with no supervision, bad shit is going to happen, even if there wasn't a gun.

>>4431382

I'm quite willing to kill - I'm just not a pussy who needs a gun. Have fun burying your kid when he finds your gun.

>>4431384
People should have RPGs.

>>4431392
My guns are on my belt or in a safe. I'm not letting some gang of thugs break into my house and steal them either. Also good luck killing anything without equivalent force(criminals have guns, probability increases when they come in packs).

>>4431392

Again, who cares?

>>4431399

Is this like the new "umad"?

>>4431303
>>4431338
you're a candy ass from a rich white neighborhood and mommy and daddy sheltered you well as i kid i see.

>>4431399

I don't - I just have to worry about my kid going to school with a kid who can bring his dad's gun. His dad's coping mechanism for a small dick is a direct threat to my kid's safety.

>>4431396

Please - nobody is trying to break into your shitty trailer and steal your poor white trash belongings.

>>4431400

Your so upset that someone endangered their family by owning a gun you want them all banned. But you don't get upset over people having illiterate mexicans build their homes not up to code, own swimming pools prone to drownings, live in Tornado alley. You wont ban any of that - but GUNS is where you draw the line.

So why should anyone care?

>>4431396
Fuck off back to /k/

I was just there and saw a thread linking to this one. Nice job crying like a little bitch on /k/ and trying to get more people over here to get on your side.

Have fun with your sex toy.

>>4431303
lol get a load of this gun
>2013
>still being afraid of guns
try harder nigger

>>4431392
>gun safe

>>4431404

Actually I grew up with guns in my house. Part of the reason I know how shallow guntard's arguments are. And going to inner-city schools, I've seen how guns are just a shortcut for pussies who want to feel tough but are scared little faggots who won't fight without a gun.

Just admit you think guns are cool, and it's got nothing to do with safety.

>>4431384
the NVA, vietcong and taliban would like to have a word with you.

>>4431411
>2013
>living in a society where you have to have a gun to feel safe

Who really is the nigger? Sounds like yourself since you need a gun.

>>4431409

oh wow

>>4431422

Who cares. Owning guns is a right :^)

>>4431422
>having a tool designed specifically for making a particular task easier makes you a pussy

You damned pussy, why do you use oven mitts? A real man like me just uses his bare hands.

>>4431428
>obsessively follow thread and reply to every post with "who cares"

I think I found the answer to your question

>>4431408

Funny how you know all these things nobody said.

There's plenty of laws about swimming pools and housing codes. But even suggesting we regulate your penis surrogate is TREASON. Legally my pool needs a fence, but if you can't buy a large clip so you can forget for a second what a beta fuck you are it's tyranny.

>>4431432
who cares

>>4431409
Seriously, even if there's 2 unarmed criminals in your house they're potentially on drugs and actually willing to break laws. Why would you willingly disarm yourself and put yourself and your family at a defensive disadvantage? Also my family taught me gun safety as a kid, and I double-learned it in the Scouts. No reason a kid should be in a gun-owning household without learning safety basics. They don't stick their hands on the stove either. NRA safety is actually becoming optional for public schools in my State.

Pic related, my /k/ sex toy.

>>4431384
>Unless you want people having RPGs

I support the right of all people to bear RPGs, nukes, and fighter jets, among other things. Seriously.

>>4431422

Will your fists be good enough when Jamal comes at you with a baseball bat? Exactly, shut the fuck up.

Good Morning /ck/

>>4431422
i enjoy shooing, and i have guns for self defense. as a victim of home invasion, (ill look for the pics to prove it) i can tell you my ar became my best friend that night. the racking of the charging handle had them pissing on themselves.

you're just a bitch dude. plain and simple. you fell macho over the net, but i b et the only "fist fights" you have been in have been when you were 16 and the other guy was 12.

>>4431434

The thing is, people can make 30 round magazines from plastic with 3d printers. No one cares if those get banned - theyll make their own anyways.

Try to ban them.

>>4431434
>little cock argument

Everything you said was immediately invalidated. Also you don't have a constitutional right to swimming pools, but you do have one to bear arms, as well as a basic human right to self defense.

>>4431440
Sorry but I dont live in nigger land where shit like that happens.

>>4431423

NVA and Vietcong were well supplied by China and the USSR. The Taliban was well supplied by the US and China (especially with Stinger missiles). Small arms are simply not enough to fight even in an guerilla manner today.

Look at Iraq - the reason IEDs are the weapon of choice by Iraqi resistance is they had access to large quantities of explosives.

>>4431443

Silencers are already regulated and you can bet your ass the gubmint is going to care if you make one at home without filling out the proper paperwork.

There's no reason they can't do the same with magazines.

>>4431422
> I've seen how guns are just a shortcut for pussies who want to feel tough but are scared little faggots who won't fight without a gun.

> I've seen how longbows are just a shortcut for pussies who want to feel tough but are scared little faggots who won't fight without a longbow.

>I've seen how hand a a half swords are just a shortcut for pussies who want to feel tough but are scared little faggots who won't fight without a hand and a half sword.

> I've seen how daggers are just a shortcut for pussies who want to feel tough but are scared little faggots who won't fight without a dagger.

>UG LOOK HOW CLUB IS EASY FOR WIMPS WHO WANT FEEL LIKE UG BUT ARE LITTLE KID WHO WONT LIKE FIGHT WITH NO CLUB.

>>4431436

Exactly how many black men have assaulted you? For me it's zero, but then I don't seem to have the same repressed desire for black cock you do.

And a knife is fine for me in case there's ever real danger.

>>4431384
>guns are bad mkay
>feel like man with guns
>HURRR .22

>>4431446
>just because I don't need to defend myself means no one else should be able to

I will never understand gun control. It's not going to stop criminals from getting guns, but it will stop people who obey the law from being able to.

>>4431403
If you properly secured your guns in the 1st place that could never happen. Oh look, the small dick argument again. That is what happens I guess when you can't form a logical arguemnt and leave out the fact that guns are used far more in self-defense than in violent crime, and are involved in accidents. You may live in some gay ass suburban neighborhood where all you need to worry about is keeping your grass below 3 inches, but some of us have seen how fucked up people can be first hand. And we know that saying stop it or calling the police is not gonna help. Get the fuck out of here with that my kid is more important than yours, or my feelings are more important than yours bullshit.

>>4431446

>>4431453

Some states allow their own citizens to make silencers and its perfectly legal and not even required to get permits and shit.

You were saying?

OP, why even include the gun in your picture? Are you so insecure about your manhood that you need to show anonymous internet users your gun in a thread about lunch? By the way, that sandwich looks like shit.

>>4431446
>complain about crime
>instead of moving to a better area, develop a paranoid radicalized view of reality, buy a fuck ton of guns, and lobby the gubmint to protect your hobby

Gun nut logic is very strange.

>>4431446
Afraid it happens everywhere, buddy. Nowhere has a 0% crime rate, just really low in some areas. May as well prepare for the inevitable so I don't let down my family when shit does happen. It's not like I hurt myself or anyone by properly and safely owning a firearm, I'm just out some hundreds of dollars at worst.

>>4431441

In that case I'll actually take a 2nd amendment argument from you seriously. Sounds like a pretty fucked up world to me, but at least you're consistent.

>>4431446

So just because you're "safe", that means other people shouldn't have the right to keep themselves safe? Sorry that not everyone lives in a gated white community and niggers exist.

>>4431453
>thinking people dont make suppressors without that shit

mfw

>>4431453
But how are they going to know? They can't do a search without probable cause... yet.

>>4431456

Yeah, it's not like countries with gun control have far less firearm deaths. Oh, wait . . .

>>4431480
And yet, higher violent crime rates. Stabbings through the roof. If only someone had a tool to trump a criminal with a knife without risking the lives of themselves or their family....

>>4431480

who cares

its legal to own here and I do

try and stop me lol

>>4431460

You'll have to forgive me because I don't spend much time on /k/ since the end of the Bat Guano days, but remind me of when the ATF stopped caring about homemade silencers? Because last I checked this was federal, not state law. Many states have even more restrictive rules but there is nowhere that you can legally slap a soda bottle on the end of your barrel without getting some kind of approval in advance.

>>4431461
then again, you prob live in a rich white gated community. try going out into the real world sometime, like Chicago. and its illegal to carry a knife above 2 inches bro, you're breaking the law. better disarm yourself. because tyrone sure will. you can just use your fists

>>4431480
>less firearms
>less deaths by said firearms because there are less of them

Shitty argument, circular reasoning. You would need to look at total murder rate, which is mostly lower in those countries as well, but the problem in the US isn't guns. It's inner-city gang violence, which accounts for the vast majority of murders in our country.

>>4431437
that's a nice shrine to our lord and savior frank zappa

>>4431470
Because all of us can afford to just up and move.

>>4431461

A gun is a good deal like a parachute; If you need one and don't have one, you won't have to worry about it, again.

The right to the arms of the day is synonymous with self-governance. The Spartans denied the Pilanians, the Selacians, the Aigitidans weapons. The Romans barred the Germanic tribes from owning swords. The British forbid the Scotts to train with blades and denied the Indians their rifles. In America the British attempted to disarm the colonials, who in turn disarmed slaves. Later, black codes prevented African Americans from owning guns. In the 1960s, while racial tensions spiked, panicking old white men scrambled to stop the Original Black Panthers Party from carrying rifles to innoculate themselves from incessant police bigotry. Martin Luther King Jr. himself was denied a concealed carry permit.

The control of weapons has never been, gun or blade, about 'safety,' it has always been about 'security,' and that security is always only for the few.

Also, that sandwich looks like butt.

>>4431483

Ummm except they don't. The EU and Canada both have lower violent crime rates than the US.

>>4431461

Repressed desire for black cock? What the fuck are you going on about? And what, you think that if something hasn't happened to you yet, it can't? What kind of retard logic is that?

>>4431480
What gun grabbers want is armed police on every street corner and no armed civilians. What gun grabbers get is armed police in every doughnut shop and absolutely no duty to protect civilians under any circumstance.

If police have to be armed, there exists a threat that requires the use of firearms to defeat them. If the threat exists, why should law abiding civilians be unable to protect themselves from it when police are able to?

>>4431470
I shouldn't have to move. I am going to defend my home with guns, and if you think that makes me a pussy who really gives a fuck?

>>4431491
Indeed it is.
Why are you not eating pancakes this morning?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzfzsKENCbU

>>4431484

Sure. In the US gun control will always be a pipe dream, and we'll get massacres like clockwork keep happening. I'm resigned that isn't changing - doesn't mean I'm not aware that gun owners are mostly pathetic faggots just because that's not going to change.

>>4431470
price of gun 100-500 dollars
price of moving 150,000+ dollars

liberal logic is retarded

>open thread expecting to see what people pack for lunch
>thread is about gun control
oh /ck/, what am i gonna do with you

>>4431495

>the EU

Not really. The UK actually has a higher violent crime rate. France has three times the rape and assault. Italy has more rape than the US has gun crime.

London was actually ranked as the most dangerous city in the EU, as a matter of fact.

>>4431486

Who cares about the ATF, these same states made it illegal and nullified federal control laws.

AGAIN

You were saying?

>>4431495
Except they... do. In fact the UK(highest tier gun grabbing nanny state) has a higher violent crime rate than the USA per capita.

>>4431425

Just like the pussies that have to have guns - they can't handle their own fights so they grab anything to help their sorry asses.

>>4431422
>Engage in "honorable" fist fight with some blaggard.
>You win! You're so manly!
>Blaggard, or Blaggard's friend, pulls a gun on you for beating him.
>Manly, honorable dead guy.

>>4431510

Your ass is not a source.

>>4431503
Well they are mostly faggots who live in the suburbs and spend 3000 on a laptop. They have that kind of money to spend.

>>4431480
but have higher murder overall.

you faggots only care about gun death it seems

5 get killed by guns and you shit bricks

100 get killed by anything else and you just let it slide.

>>4431483
>If only someone had a tool to trump a criminal with a knife without risking the lives of themselves or their family....
Like a baseball bat?

>>4431501

who cares boy you cant stop me and id love to see you try and take them from me

go back to dressing like cartoon girls and ill worry about killing people who enter my home without my consent lol

>>4431480
Facts would like to have a word with you

Gunfacts.info

>>4431511

You really are retarded, aren't you?

>>4431496

Sure. The fear of black men is a great reason to make high powered weapons designed only to kill many people freely available to the mentally ill. It's not like they ever go crazy and kill random people.

>>4431496
i think its funny how everything he said said has involved a penis so far.

Freudian slip?

>>4431519
A baseball bat doesn't trump a knife, let alone 1+ unarmed gentlemen on the PCP. If it takes a half dozen or more well-placed shots from police to drop them... a baseball bat won't make them flinch.

>>4431516
>Spend $3k on a laptop

Why do people do this?
I spend about $150 on a refurbished laptop, fix anything else, then have myself a quality computer.

Well, why do people do anything?!?

>>4431519

>implying it is ever advisable to enter melee combat with a knife-wielding opponent

Somebody's never been in a fight.

>>4431514
>pulls a gun on you for beating him
So you're saying gun owners are pathetic pussy faggots who pull their guns at anything they getbutthurt over? I'm glad we agree.

>>4431516

Wait, your problem with liberals is that they're not poor white trash like you? Sorry you fail at life, but how is that their problem?

>>4431530
That is their way of compensating for a small dick.

>>4431514

>>you sit at home rubbing your gun, stroking yourself about the fantasy that Jamal will break in your house and you'll shoot him
>>nothing ever happens
>>till your kid is playing with the gun and shoots his younger brother

>>4431519
Difficult to use indoors in small spaces. Also, you can grab a baseball bat by the business end, and it's no longer useful. With a home defense handgun, all you have to do is take one good step back, aim for center mass, and Mozambique Drill the fucker.

>>4431531
If a knife wielding opponent is within melee range, it's too late for guns. You're fucked.

>>4431535

sure why not gun owners are gaylords xD

still not going to stop me boy

>>4431538

Problem sounds like negligence, not the gun. See, that's the liberal problem: They want to blame anything but the human.

Man acts irresponsibly, they blame the object he was irresponsible with, not his negligence.

>>>/k/

Please go back to /k/ and stop shitposting here.

>>4431519
>not knowing anything about hand to hand combat

/k/ here time to fuck shit up

>>4431526

I guess. It seems like if anyone has the hots for penis it's liberals.

>you own a high stopping power assault weapon? You must have a small penis!

>you own a truck instead of an electric Prius? SMALL PENIS!

>you don't want the government helping you? COMPENSATION FOR SMALL PENIS LOLOL

>>4431544

That's... the point. The point is to stay OUT of melee range by using a ranged weapon instead of a melee weapon.

Stop being dumb.

>>4431547
But isn't it irresponsible to sell guns to irresponsible people?

Don't answer that, just stop posting.

>>4431538
>implying my child won't be taught from a young age how to properly handle a firearm

nice try, but I'm not that irresponsible.

>>4431509

I was saying the law doesn't have to be based on how easy it is to break. I can easily jaywalk and it's rarely enforced. You can attach a piece of string to your trigger and make an "automatic rifle". Doesn't matter, illegal is illegal. There is no magical relationship between 3D printers and the only amendment in the entire US constitution. The hype about homemade printed magazines is silly and nonsensical.

>>4431528
>high powered weapons

please define

>>4431528
No one ever said anything about giving them to the mentally ill. In fact, one of the main counter-proposals of the gun lobby is to make national mental health services and screening a primary concern.

Your straw man is showing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tueller_Drill
If the guy with a knife is within 20 feet of you, you don't have time to pull a gun on him before getting raped.

>>4431545
Wait, your problem with gun owners is that they don't live in gated communities like you and may need to defend themselves? Sorry you fail at life.

>>4431544
No? You still shoot them because guns are about the size of your hand. You might get some slight burns at that range, but they'll have the increased damage of a muzzle bursting their guts apart. A small price to pay to keep my family from being eaten by Jerome the hug-loving crackhead.

>>4431480
you mean like Mexico?

>>4431547

Jesus. No, there's plenty of blame for humans. You seem to think that there's not shitty humans out there, and that it should be simple for those humans to have the means to kill scores of people at will.

I've also noticed that most gun nuts are so stupid they don't seem to realize that their guns don't block bullets.

>>4431552
>The point is to stay OUT of melee range
If you're out of melee range, why do you need a gun?

>>4431553

>implying it is your position to judge the possible future responsibility of anyone
>Implying hypothetical future negligence or crime bears any merit

When you start deciding who has rights based on hypotheticals, you've officially gone full retard.

>>4431545
no, the problem is they paid for that thing with they're EBT cards (iv'e seen shit like this done)

the only people who are liberals are either
a. spoiled pricks who never saw the real world
b. poor leaches

which one are you now?

>>4431560

>>living in gated community instead of a trailer park
>>failing at life

great logic there

ITT:

>Every wanabe fit fag thinks it take 20 boolets to kill you because thats what its like in cod

>Knives are unbeatable in close range because reasons that are never specified

>guns are for pussy men because they assume that gun owners are weak

I hope all of you get raped with a spiked dildo.

>>4431555

Sure just ban it, thatll stop it. Not.

>>4431544
So take one big step backwards.

Congratulations! You are now out of knife range, and have plenty of room to pull the ol' Djibouti Shooty!

>>4431566
Because they want to enter melee range to stabs you. You can't just run away and leave your family to get stabbed in your place. Also in many places the law says you don't have to run away because it's wrong. If someone's doing bad things, good guys should stop them. Stopping bad guys takes guns in a majority of cases. Not necessarily killing with it, but having it is necessity.

>>4431558
its okay, rape only lasts about 30 secs anyway

>>4431565
A plate carrier and AR500 plates do though.

>>4431528

It's not like someone could pass a background check and then go on a murder spree, right? Face it, anyone can pass a background check, acquire a vz 58 or something similar, and then go fuck shit up.

>>4431566
because your life is threatened

>>4431558
Whats your point?

>>4431555
The point of having a law against "high capacity" magazines is so that criminals wont be able to have them. If criminals can just print or make them in their garage though, what is the point of the law? Such a law would literally only affect people who wouldn't use the magazines for evil.

>>4431562
>You still shoot them
And he stabs you. The fact you shot him will be small consolation when you're dead.

>>4431555

how is it nonsensical libturd

>>4431566

To stop him from coming INTO melee range. Stop being dumb, dummy.

>>4431575
>So take one big step backwards.
And he takes one big step forwards. You're still fucked.

>>4431571
Implying I do not live on a reservations full of tweakers and sex offenders.

>>4431580

Nigger what.

How do you think he'll stab me when I just put at least 2 in his fucking center mass.

>>4431580
If I have to kill a guy who's going to stab me while being unarmed anyway, I'm glad to put him down before he kills again. It's not like 90% of gunshot wounds are treatable in the hospital these days (hint: they are). I don't care if I have to die to stop a criminal from getting to my family or anyone I care about or even a stranger I may have never met before. Why would you let him stab you without recourse and continue on?

>>4431565
you're right. lets disarm the police too, it will save money.

>>4431565

>implying that some people are shitty, therefor everyone should be treated like they, too, are shitty

Jesus christ, I remember thinking that punishing the whole class because the teacher didn't know who did something was retarded in fucking PRESCHOOL, and people are still trying to do it as adults.

>>4431580

And guns should be outlawd because someone was stabbed once

LOL

>>4431586
The point is, "guns will protect me from people with knives" is bullshit.

>>4431565
which is why you shoot them first.

also, fun story

>yfw i tought my 14 year old cousin how to take apart an ar15 and the BCG, an sks, and a mosin nagant.

i can sense your asshurt already
mfw

>>4431576
>You can't just run away and leave your family to get stabbed in your place

wan't there an anti-funner that did just that?

>>4431553
Which is why most pro-gunners argue that the prime concern should be national mental health services.

>>4431597

But they do chuckle fuck.

>>4431579

And if you ban CP people will still make CP. So it might as well be legal, right?

You seem not to grasp what laws are for.

>>4431572
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=2d8_1367104934
this is the knife argument

>>4431575
unless he's faster than you.

inb4 black people aren't great runners

>>4431602

You stupid nigger strawman.

There is no point to the law because those who it is targeted at will not follow it.

>>4431589
Sorry, I didn't know you were a lightning fast ninja.

Heh.
Heheheheh.
You guys are cute.

>>4431601
Only in your armchair warrior fantasies.

>>4431566
because melee range is within 15 feet. how long does it take to close that gap?

>>4431607

You know practice makes perfect.

Maybe one day you'll be as good as me.

>>4431599
I don't know. All I know is that if guns are banned or something, majority of self-respecting family-protecting Americans will become outlaws and use them for self-defense anyway. It's an inalienable Constitutionally protected right and it's the best answer to the fucked up world we live in. Deal with it.

>>4431598

I don't care if you or your cousin jack off over guns. I do think it's ridiculous you assume you'd get the drop on a deranged fuckup who's decided to take a bunch of people out.

Colorado has very gun friendly laws. Why didn't anyone in Aurora shoot first if that's the way we protect ourselves?

>>4431611

Oh, you said strawman! I can see I'm in the presence of an expert.

>>4431616
Gun-free zones protect criminals from law-abiding citizens, of course. The correct answer: Disobey all gun laws. Rely on your own moral compass and not fear of bacon.

>>4431602

You seem to not grasp the effects of laws.

In your example, the law punishes those who break it. In the magazine example, the law punishes those who break it while simultaneously putting law abiding citizens at a disadvantage.

While it does punish the criminal for using a larger magazine, it also ensures that criminals willing to break the law (IE, All criminals) are now thoroughly outgunning law abiding citizens whom they intend to victimize. It's a self defeating proposition; adding a charge while making it easier to commit crime.

>>4431602
CP is only designed to hurt children

Firearms have other uses, like defending property. Also bills should be proven effective first before becoming law, and not rely on the classic "burden of proof" fallacy "you don't need one prove me wrong"

>>4431612

Sorry I cant hear you over the sound of how wrong you are.

>>4431576

And this shows the basic reason for pro-gun stupidity - it's all a vigilante fantasy, where instead of being a shitty best buy clerk they're a hero waiting to be in their heads.

I hope more states pass laws like Colorado did just a few weeks ago. Colorado passed a law saying you cant have more than 15 round magazines and that people have to get background checks for all gun purchases and they have to pay for them instead of making the government pay for it.
New York earlier this year passed a law stating that you can only have 7 round magazines.

Colorado is also talking about requiring gun owners to have insurance and also possible restrictions on how much ammo you can buy at a time.

I am glad more states are enacting gun control and I hope more will in the future. We just need to go at it slowly and get a few laws on the books each time.

>>4431614
>You know practice makes perfect.
The same goes for the mugger.

whats going on in this thread?

>>4431579

Since people can kill people even though it's illegal, we shouldn't bother having laws against murder. It just punishes people who kill in self-defense.

>>4431612
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=police+shoot+man+with+knife

>>4431587
So keep taking steps backwards, pulling the trigger the entire time. Jesus, have you no sense of contextual implication? Did you seriously think I meant take a step backwards, and then wait patiently for him to step towards you? Firing retreat, man. Firing retreat.

>>4431459

This.

>>4431626
Tryanny is a slow road as they say. It encroaches inch by inch.

>>4431616
Because concealed carry is banned in most theaters, fucktard.

>>4431622
>my circlejerk supports me so there
Good for you. Enjoy your delusions.

>>4431624
And yet it's IN their heads. There's not a moment where they aren't aware of their own firearm and thus more HESITANT to pull it out. It has to be for good, road rage? Psh, just some guy who had a bad day. If he was a bad guy though, I woulda had to cap his ass.

If someone is a good person, they should be prepared to protect people around them. Whether it will ever happen is not the issue, all it takes for evil to succeed is for good men to do nothing.

To castrate good people and disallowing them to prevent evil acts is far more evil than obsessing over whether you'll be a hero someday.

>>4431626
Those laws will do nothing and the supporters know it.

Most guns are illegally obtained anyway and magazine restrictions just won't be followed. Neither will the requirement for insurance.

I don't see why that's so hard to understand.

All those laws do is hurt law abiding owners.

>>4431583

HERP DERP THE LAW MIGHT POSSIBLY NOT CATCH EVERYTHING SO DON'T MAKE ONE. IT ONLY WILL PREVENT 90% OF GUN MASSACRES SO LIBRULS R DUMB!

Basic gist of your argument I guess? Or is there a finer point I'm missing?

I didn't know /ck/ was full of such libtards and soccer moms.

>>4431616
the theater was a gun free zone? how did holmes get a gun in there?

also, see>>4431442

>>4431621

Actually no, it's designed to titillate perverts. Whereas in the context of guns as protection against bad people, guns are designed solely for the purpose of shooting people.

High cap mags went way up in price during the last ban, which is a pretty effective testament to the effectiveness of the ban. Saying the ban was useless because it didn't make millions of pieces of metal magically disappear overnight is stupid. The ban worked.

>>4431630
Buncha slack jawed faggots running amuck.

>>4431631
...but it doesn't.

i just don't understand the obsession of relating a gun to a dick for compensation in every anti gun argument its just shits up the hole argument and makes it moot for the lack of intelligent debate

pic related my compensation gun

>>4431636
>Not wanting my kids to be slaughtered while they are at school by a guy who has a 100 round magazine
>tyranny

I just wish they would release the photos of the scene that day and get this gun control issue over with.

>>4431348
Hell, I've used a gun as a bottle opener, dog call, and a fucking key.

>>4431624
http://www.wral.com/woman-shoots-two-intruders-at-elm-city-home/12256152/

strawmen, strawmen errywhere

>>4431642
>prevent 90%

>HUEHUEHUEHUEHUE

>>4431634
So you take a step backwards and he's just standing there waiting patiently for you to kill him? He was rushing at you and stabbing you a second ago but now he's just standing there? And you can walk backwards faster than he can move forwards?

>>4431641
Oh they do more than hurt law abiding owners, they turn law abiding owners into criminal owners because fuck giving up MY GUNS. No, once you've passed that line into criminality, you've got even less reason to comply with police. To fit into society determined to hunt you for your supposed (God Given Rights)crimes.

Vigilantes are vastly preferable to ignorant cowards incapable of seeing the reality in which they live and safely preparing for the worst.

>>4431643
I didnt know /ck/ was full of retarded gun nuts from /k/

>>4431650
but then you do struggle to achieve full tumescence.

>>4431593

Doesn't lead from what I posted at all, but thanks for playing!

>>don't allow the mentally ill to easily become heavily armed
>>you want to disarm the police

I guess the only logical way your argument follows is you think the police are all mentally ill.

>>4431649

>>4431649
But schools are gun free zones, how could someone every bring a gun in there?

>>4431645
>CP doesn't hurt kids
go back to /b/

>The ban worked.
that's great, but how did it help?

>>4431649
MUH CHILLENS!

>>4431494

Don't forget that in Feudal Japan the Samurai were the only people who could own swords. Back then, Samurai could also decapitate Peasants for looking at them the wrong way. Coincidence? I think not.

>>4431654
>BUT MUH FANTASIES

For every perfect home invasion fantasy story, there are thousands of tragic and embarrassing cases where a dude accidentally shot his dick off because he was playing with his gun while drunk.

>>4431595

Yes, not letting people have arsenals is treating them shitty.

Downside - people have to wait a few days for their guns
Upside - vast reduction in gun murders

Yeah, obviously not worth it

>>4431649

>muh feels

You are more likely to be hit by lightning, eaten by a shark, mauled by a bear, or struck by falling debris than you are to be shot in a mass shooting. Cry harder.

You are building a world for your child so safe that it will not be worth living in. Cameras on every street corner, insurance to take a shit, medication to cover the effects of the other medications.

If you truly do have children, I feel sorry for them. You're raising them to be pussies.

>>4431661
>implying that happened because guns were banned at the moment
This is what gun tards actually believe.

>>4431602
The difference is in the desired effects of the laws. The purpose of limiting magazines is so people who want to kill other people ( a rather small minority) will have a harder time. The problem is that making magazines is so easy to do at home that the law literally only hurts those who are not going to kill other people with the magazines.

Now, CP is different because the intended effects of the law are to prevent EVERYONE from making or watching it and to have a way of jailing people who hurt small children. While the law is not 100% effective, it does keep CP out of legitimate stores and it has been used to jail child predators.

>>4431674

That's not the point fuck head

>>4431658
I'm not a 'gun nut'. I'm an average person who happens to own firearms. Is a person who owns a car a "car nut"?

>>4431569
>implying it is your position to judge the possible future responsibility of anyone
No, it's not mine. It's the government's.

>Implying hypothetical future negligence or crime bears any merit

Reducing future crimes is the number one priority of law enforcement.

>>4431660
>Guns don't stop knives
>cops do it erryday

(oh shit, I know, I'll call him out and say he's for the mentally ill getting guns)

do you retards not know there's already laws on the books for this?

>>4431676
So what you're saying is that the laws aren't going far enough?

>>4431677
The point is that guns don't protect people? Yeah, I know.

>>4431674
Well, some people are working towards that.

>>4431637

Except it's not in Colorado - pretty much just federal buildings prohibit concealed carry.

And why wasn't anyone open carrying, fucko? Why didn't one of the good guys blow him away first, if guns are so protective?

>>4431664

It didn't have time to help, because it takes time to get all that legacy product into the hands of wealthy collectors. In addition, 10 rounds is still too much.

>>4431679

Get the fuck out of here you statist pig.

>>4431670

>wait a few days

Backpedal harder. Background checks are instant and already done on all purchases, even those from gun shows. I know you wouldn't actually KNOW what the law is, but thats the law already.

There is only one kind of transaction involving a gun that is not closely monitored: Person-to-person transaction. One person selling private property to another, because that falls under the jurisdiction of property rights.

>>4431669
Fortunately, it's his God given right to shoot his dick off from being a drunken redneck. For every dumbfuck who shoots his dick off, there's 200 million dumbfucks who don't.

>>4431679
Protecting citizens is not a court-upheld priority, unfortunately.

>>4431672
>You're raising them to be pussies.

You mean for my son to be considered a real man he has to own a gun? That he will be a pussy because he wont have a gun?

This type of attitude really makes me fear for my kids(yes I do have 2 of them). I really hope this gun shit is taken care of before they get into the school system.

>>4431606
Fighting retreat. Back up AND shoot. If it's a home invasion, you should already have your gun up and ready to fire. The second you see your target make any kind of move in your direction, squeeze the trigger until they're down. It's really that easy.

>>4431680
Some people are working towards making the world safer? How horrible.

>>4431605
>cops carrying drop leg/retention strap holsters

See how well your fat ass fares against someone CC/OCing with a proper holster.

>>4431649
>thinking 100 is worse than 10, 10 rounders
>you're funny

>>4431690
A real man will accept responsibility to survive and ensure his family survives in reality. Reality has niggers and crackheads and white trash and random acts of violence and terrorists.

If you're not teaching your child to come to terms with these evils and ignore them while you pray the police deign to show up at all.... you're irresponsible.

>>4431679

>number one priority

No, it is not. The investigation of crime and the apprehension of criminals is the number one priority of law enforcement. They have no legal obligation to prevent crime, only enforce laws once crime is committed.

>>4431605
Except no one is going to have their weapon holstered during a home invasion. The draw time is therefore eliminated. The second the gun is on your person, it should be up and ready to fire.

>>4431692
You're right. People never killed each other before the invention of the gun. Don't know why I didn't see that before.

>>4431691
The hypothetical situation was with the attacker in melee range. Read the thread. The first sentence was, if the attacker is in melee range, you're fucked.

HUEHUEHUE
m-muh chilluhns

>>4431690
I hope you kid gets ran over by a car. So then you can lead a campaign to ban cars.

>>4431678
Cars require drivers license to operate. They also require registration and insurance to be able to operate in society.

A car is not a gun.

>>4431694

> ⑨mm

GET THE FUCK OUT GUYS

RETREAT /k/ RETREAT!!!!

>>4431669
No, that's not fantasy. That story actually happened

>for every defense someone got hurt by their own gun
[citation needed]

and even if so, why shouldn't someone be able to defend their home just because some hillbilly misfired his .22 once? I can make the same argument for fucking cops (pic related)

>>4431707
And yet they don't require any of those restrictions on personal property. Enjoy your unregistered home-defense vehicle in peace.

>>4431707
A car is also not a right.

...and this is the last I will say on this topic, I love /k/ and /ck/, but the two need to stay separate.

>>4431697
That is implying I live in a area infested with niggers and crackheads. I live in a really safe neighborhood where the people dont need guns to feel safe.
Sorry your police force is shitty, sorry you live in a nigger crackhead infested area.

WON'T SOMEONE THINK OF THE CHILDREN?

>>4431687

The jurisdiction of property rights? That's not a thing, idiot. I know it sounds like one, but laws define property rights, and jurisdiction is the area of enforcement of law.

And background checks are not necessary at gun shows, maybe you want to actually read the law. Firearms dealers are required to perform them, sellers at gun shows are not classified as such.

>>4431607
If it's a home invasion, your gun is already up in firing position.

Here: take a test. Turn your phone onto camera mode, stand within 5 feet of a person, point it at them, and ask them to touch you before you can click the shutter.

>>4431703
You're right. Guns protect everyone and there have been no mass shootings or any sort of violent crimes, ever, because guns prevented them all.

>>4431690

>raise children to be afraid of inanimate objects
>raise children to be terrified of other humans
>healthy

Its not about owning guns. Its about not being so fucking scared that you want to dictate how others live their lives.

>>4431717
You realize how many mass shootings are stopped because of someone with a gun, right?
Of course you don't, because the media doesn't report those stories. Stay brainwashed, kid.

>>4431716
Read the thread. The guy is a foot away from you.

>>4431712
Niggers and crackheads can steal and drive vehicles. How many minutes away from the nearest urban city center do you live? Are you really SURE they can't drive into your neighborhood?

>>4431697
>doesn't keep poison powder cannon fully loaded to defend against attack by the slime monster
>doesn't keep a cross made of garlic to defend against dracula
>doesn't build a moat full of alligators around child's play pen to defend against mongol hordes
>doesn't mine the front lawn to defend against Iranian human wave tactics
>doesn't force baby to sleep with gas mask to defend against scud missile attack
>doesn't deny babby his vaccines because jennifer love hewitt said it would be the autism

Why so selective with your threat responses? Don't you love your family?

>>4431690
you want your son to be a "man" by learning to accept that tryone is entitled to everything you have and you should feel bad for what white people did to them 200 years go.

you want him to be a man and take his car to the mechanic instead of having basic knowledge of an automobile.

you want your son to be a "man" and not know to respect a machine.

>>4431697
Anon, you almost gave me a boner. Very well said.
10/10 would operate with

>>4431690
its not about owning a gun, its about the irrational fear that some people have of them.

>>4431683
No, im saying that there is no point in making murder double illegal. People will get guns regardless of any laws, so forcing non-criminals to disarm is just ridiculous. You seem to be under the impression that laws actually fix problems. They don't. Murder is illegal, but we still have murders. That's because the law doesn't actually prevent murders, it only punishes them after the fact.

>>4431717
Your right, removing the balance of force between law abiding citizens and criminals is a good idea!

>>4431685
>It didn't have time to help
10 years

>10 rounds is still too much.
because 1 bullet can't kill on it's own? Please

>but hurr durr mass murderings every few years!
then you just see more fertilizer or pressure cookers instead.

>>4431718
>has to own a gun to not be scared of other humans
>calls others terrified of other humans
Cool story, bro.

>>4431290
>/po/
/k/

At least get it right.

>>4431717

My god, its almost like we have to be adults and accept that some people are assholes and some aren't! Its almost as if we should just step the fuck off and let people live their own lives!

>>4431712
so you admit to being a sheltered bitch?

>>4431717
People can and have gone on sprees without firearms. In fact, I believe the worse one occurred with an improvised bomb. Bombs were illegal. Didn't seem to help.

>>4431669
natural selection at its finest

>>4431717
The worst school massacre in US history was performed with firebombs and TNT, actually. 1929.

>>4431722
You don't have a chemical-hazard drill in your house? Staplegun, duct tape, plastic sheeting for windows and doors? Weeks worth of food in case you're trapped in a blizzard or tornado or hurricane or something? Seriously, do you even prep?

In all seriousness, reality is not a pretty place. Don't take your happy life for granted just because shit hasn't happened to you het. Shit happens.

>>4431292
exceptions =/= rule

>>4431717
The thing that can stop a bad person with a gun is a good person with a gun. The arguement ends there.

>>4431587
so your logic is to not attempt to defend yourself at all?

>>4431723

Ah gun nuts - try all you like, but your arguments always get to "OMG NIGGAS IS GONNA RAPE MES" way too quick

>>4431728
So what you want to get rid of laws against murder because they don't stop all murder?

You need to work on your analogies none of them make sense.

>>4431722

>implying home invasion or mugging are outlandish scenarios

Stop being silly.

>>4431731
You're right, giving any lunatic and criminal off the street free access to guns is a good idea!

>>4431713
this
no one gives a shit when it happens there but it comes here and OHH NOES just like the Boston bombings other happened that same over there but meh not us who cares


you people make me fucking sick

>>4431748
It's a valid argument though, people get raped. Have you cured the epidemic of violence in the USA? Well.... better safe than sorry. Why are you always so sorry?

>>4431719
Sorry but there hasnt been a murder, breakin, or robbery in my neighborhood in the longest time, I cant remember the last time that happened. I do live pretty close to the city though but I dont ever see niggers or crackheads driving around.
Sounds like just another made up scenario you fools like to spout on about. Like the fema helicopters are coming to get you or the 100 serial killers breaking into your house. Just made up shit scenarios that will not happen.

>>4431742
Sure, but I'd rather have fewer bad persons with guns to start with.

>>4431726

How many? Not in your imagination or hypotheticals, but how many mass shootings have been stopped by gun owners?

The answer is 0.

>>4431738
>>4431733

>>4431626
Yup. And all this is DEFINITELY going to stop Jamal and Tyrone from buying their ammo from their buddy down the block who is part of a black-market network.

>>4431734

Actually, I don't own a gun. I'm just not a faggot who thinks I have the right to dictate whether others can.

>>4431740
>food as a top priority rather than drinking water

You preppers amuse the shit out of me. Admit it, you pray for SHTF because you're hoping bitches will be all over your dick when you're the only guy on the street with a basement full of MREs.

>>4431713
America is too busy empowering our government to care. Sad fact that many see this as a good thing and are able to vote. Luckily they are the minority for now.

To bad that ban on high capacity soda drinks didn't get passed /ck/. Now the kids will be fat.

>>4431733

Look at the gifford's shooting - less rounds means quicker reload, which is when the crazy got taken down by unarmed people.

>>4431748
as if gungrabbers dont get to penis compensating in the first few posts.

>>4431742
Another thing that can stop a bad person with a gun is not giving the bad person a gun in the first place.

QUICK, SOMEONE HARNESS AND WEAPONIZE ALL THIS BUTTDEVESTATION!

>>4431631
Self defence is a recognized justification in court, you twat.

>>4431757
there was that Oregon mall shooting where some guy who was cc drew on him. guy ran away and killed himself or something

>>4431748
here you go with more rape stuff.

you really are just one big Freudian slip.

>>4431751

>implying we don's already have background checks

Strawman harder.

>>4431755
Nobody's going to force you to go out and buy a gun, unless you're in that.... city in Alabama? Louisiana? There's a mandatory gun ownership law in place that I'm pretty sure has never been enforced.... their crime rate dropped like 99% when it went into effect. JUST SAYING.

But no, there's absolutely no reason to disarm people when bad guys exist. They may not be at your door, but why wouldn't you be prepared for that very remote possibility anyway? Are you so blase about life that you won't prepare for ANYTHING going wrong? Even the slightest chance?

It's not even about self defense on the whole, but on that one singular incredibly valid issue... what's your problem with self-defense? Shouldn't that be a choice someone makes for their own household? What's the alternative if defending yourself ceases to exist?

>>4431757
You must not have heard of the one just a few months ago where an off duty cop shot a theater shooter who opened fire on the crowd?

>>4431776
>implying all gun sales require a background check
Retard harder.

>>4431749
No, I don't want to get rid of murder laws. Murderers should be punished, possibly even executed. But I am not so naive to think that a law against murder will prevent anyone from trying to kill me. The difference between murder laws and gun laws is that gun laws hurt good people too. They prevent people from defending themselves while the bad guys just get guns through illegal means. Murder laws at least have exceptions for non-criminals, so that self-defense isn't outlawed.

>>4431764
>high capacity soda drinks didn't get passed
lol it did just in jew york

>>4431779
That's interesting. How many did the shooter kill?

A 'gun nut' sees a gun and thinks: "Man, that would be fun to take to the range. Maybe I could put a scope or a foregrip on it?"

A progressive sees a gun and immediately starts thinking about dicks and mass murder.

You tell me who's the fucked up one.

>>4431766
>six dead, thirteen other people were wounded

that's equal to 2 10 round magazines. still not seeing how banning zomg assault clips! would have made a difference.

>>4431780
I'm pretty sure most states have some sort of check and waiting period on the weapons used in 99% of all crimes: handguns.

>>4431764
I'm sorry /ck/

>>4431757
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=shooting+stopped+by+CCW
:-)

>>4431763
actually no, the last thing you want is people knowing you have supplies.

>>4431757
A handful? Media just doesn't report them.

>>4431754

I'm not. Strangely enough, even living in bad neighborhoods, I've never been mugged, robbed, or raped, And what's really impossible is I don't own a gun either.

Of course I don't sit at home hoping that'll happen so I can be a good guy and escape my boring life, so maybe that's it.

>>4431779
>shooting stopped by a cop
I see.

Heres my lunch, what do you think /ck/ ?

>>4431794
>what are gun shows
Resale of guns is legal and doesn't require any sort of background check.

>>4431785
Not a single person

>>4431712
>because I live in a safe(r) neighborhood you shouldn't be able to defend yourself

Quit thinking with your uterus you cunt

>>4431784
no it didn't you fag, it got overturned

>>4431787
And just in case you're too lazy to look, here's an excerpt: http://blog.uritraining.com/?p=88
:-)

>>4431656
Which is why, fucktard, you keep pulling the trigger as you retreat.

Here: this is the "camera test". Take your camera phone, point it at a friend, stand within 5 feet of them, and ask them to try to touch you before you can click the shutter. If you click the button the instant you see them move while stepping backwards to open the distance, there is no chance in hell they will be able to touch you first.

>>4431780
All gun sales require an initial background check. There is no way around it legally. Maybe get your facts straight gun grabber.

>>4431778

You mean a homogenous gated community that created a law to advertise what was already in effect? They could have just printed fliers saying "we're all armed", but the law was a better way to masturbate.

>>4431795
Off-duty= civiallian

>>4431766
>this is the only shooting where this has happened.

james holmes ar jammed 20 rounds in, why did no one tackle him? he switched to a shotgun with 8 rounds. why did no one attack him? they had 3 chances?

>>4431768
Yeah, because the criminal is such a good guy that he won't find another way to get one.

>>4431781
gun laws don't hurt good people, they hurt people who spend their days planning and fantasizing about the day someone tries something and they'll FINALLY get to shoot a man.

People who harp on about self-defense are just in love with a fantasy of killing.

>>4431791
does your ass stay out past 12am?

>>4431787
>http://lmgtfy.com/?q=shooting+stopped+by+CCW

Might want to try that yourself. One possible - the Oregon shooter who killed himself (like most shooting crazies do), but the guy with a gun claims it was cause of him. Funny how he didn't stop him even then.

>>4431795
>off duty
>ccw
Could have been anyone, just happened to be an off duty cop. Don't know what you're grasping at.

>>4431775
>all that argument
Oh wait, there isn't one.

>>4431780

They do. Gun shows and gun shops. The only ones that don't are private citizens selling to other private citizens, because property right and privacy law supercedes. Private citizens do not have the right to run background checks on other private citizens,

>>4431804
>your argument is invalid because in a completely different scenario that isn't being discussed at the moment I could shoot him
Sure thing, bro.

>>4431815
Look again, friend.
:-)

>>4431810
You've never been to a gun show, have you? 90% of all transactions in a gun show require a background check, 100% require ID.

>>4431805

Gun show and private sale loopholes, you fucking idiot. Go read the law if you're actually literate.

>>4431805
>what are resales

>>4431810

Only if it is between one private citizen and another. Dealers, vendors, and booth owners have to run them.

Private citizens aren't legally allowed to run background checks because of privacy laws. Unless you want to throw those out, too.

>>4431795
>off duty cop using ccw

fix'd

>>4431669
>Implying someone that stupid being unable to breed is anything but good

>>4431818

You keep using the word property right. It doesn't mean what you think it does.

>>4431817
there actually is, you keep saying we're the ones going crazy over penis.

every counter you have has come down to being scared of rape, or having a small dick.

i think you're crying out for help. please see a doctor about your feelings.

>>4431791
Shit, I know people that get mugged, jumped by gangs, no rape victims from what I can tell.... I've personally been held up at gunpoint, nearly hit by stray gunfire while in a friend's home as a kid.... probably other things.

Now, my parents didn't believe in guns. Nobody ever broke into our house(we were pretty poor, bad choice anyway). Cars were stolen multiple times, people vandalized neighbors houses and such.

I ain't even mad. I carry a modest firearm with me, legally, and I haven't had any problems since I moved the hell out of crack alley. I don't want to come across any problems, but I'm sure as hell not ignoring their existance. The gun doesn't make me safer necessarily, but it gives me a MORE even standing on people who may wish me harm. No matter how much you want to, you're never going to be at an advantage against a criminal aggressor. Equal terms is.... well, it's wishful thinking.

>>4431810
What two people do in their own homes and/or convention centers is not my business. I am not Big Brother, it's their responsibility to be responsible gun owners and salesmen. They probly wouldn't show up in the shitty database anyway.

>>4431810
it does bro in some states but if you knew your neighbor for years would you bother paying to have to sell or gift it

>>4431818
>The only ones that don't are private citizens selling to other private citizens
Well there you go.

Its ok guys we will just pass more and more gun control laws just like we did in Colorado and New York, the supreme court has already ruled that states have the right to regulate firearms and you damn well know this.

What we really need to do is tax your ammo and drive up the prices even more. I know you guys are hurting now for ammo and prices have gone up. I hope those prices stay up.

>>4431825
>everyonelookandlaughatthisretard.jpg

>>4431811
So your belief is that wanting to own a gun makes someone a bad person. Murder is illegal because when I murder someone I am necessarily hurting them. Tell me, who am I necessarily hurting by owning guns?

>>4431707
Not on private property, they don't.

>>4431825
>Gun show loopholes
>This is fact because TV says so

How about a proper fucking citation instead?

>>4431836

>better throw out the right to privacy and property while we're at it

Liberals, ladies and gentlemen.

>>4431834
>What two people do in their own homes and/or convention centers is not my business. I am not Big Brother, it's their responsibility to be responsible gun owners and salesmen.
So what are you saying, are there background checks or aren't there? Can they be circumvented or can't they?

ITT: People who've never even held a gun argue about how to buy guns with people who actually have bought guns

>>4431837
And the senate will keep on and keep on shutting thay shit down. Face it faggot, our guns are not going anywhere.

>>4431825
You are required by federal law to fill out a 4473 form at a gunshow. Get your shit straight gun grabber. There is no gunshow loophole you fucking commie.

The original owner of the gun in that private sale must have gun through a background check per federal law at least. It is also illegal for a felon or anyone who normally couldn't buy that gun to buy that gun.

>>4431825
"loophole"
and you better check yourself before you shrek yourself.
I'm sick of people making shit up and coming to the conclusion that everything they hear is a fact

>>4431849
>there are background checks
>resales don't have or require background checks, your argument is invalid
>ZOMG BIG BROTHER LIBERAL COMMUNIST NAZI MUH RIGHTS
Nice flailing there, bro.

>>4431707
So are you saying I can own ANY GUN on my property?

Also we MUST BAN assault cars! You dont need 500 HP to 65 mph now do you! You dont need turbochargers to bring your kids to school! You dont need fucking roll cages and spoilers to go to work! BAN ASSAULT CARS THINK OF THE CHILLUNZ

>>4431837
>implying you will ever disarm America

You aren't getting my guns. And don't think your little tax idea will do anything; I have several thousand rounds of ammo for each of my guns.

>>4431837
just bought 3000 rounds of 7.62x54r, they should tax you in your internet usage. its polluting the internet with bullshit. that pesky 1st amendment.

:)

>>4431853
I am talking about individual states, not that shit at the national level.

>>4431850
I wouldn't know. I know the ATF gave guns to criminals who they then lost and let walk out of the country, only to later enter the hands of criminals who murdered a border control agent.

Don't trust the ATF to do anything right, even if the law is on their side.

I am not a law enforcement officer, soon enough many states won't even have to register firearms to national databases like the ATF as long as they stay in-state. Why worry about loopholes that will be completely circumvented by state legislatures in coming months?

>>4431836
The only way to properly regulate private sales would require the creation of a registry. I'll refer you to Canada to see how that turned out. Imagine America with over 100 times more guns.

>>4431858
>implying you don't have to have a licence to drive a car

>>4431704
Only if you're holding the gun hanging down at your side like an idiot. If you're in a home invasion, the gun should be up and in firing position the second it's in your hand. If it's already pointed forward, all you have to do is turn it towards the target and squeeze.

>>4431857

>All sales require background checks save one type
>that type still has laws dictating who can buy
>ZOMG NEED MORE LAWS, THROW OUT PRIVACY AND PROPERTY LAW

>>4431852
This is the fucking cooking board. Why the FUCK is there a fucking BABBYKILLUNGUNZ thread that started with a sandwich? By the way, OP, that sandwich looks delicious, I give you 7/10 for lack of hot sauce.

>>4431338
>>4431303
Actually statistics show a gun in the home is more safe then without one, considering chances for burglary, tresspassing, etc. You are far more likely to be killed by your doctor from mal practice then being shot from the gun in your home.

>>4431861
See Civil War

>>4431870
So what you're saying is that background checks don't prevent anyone from purchasing guns.

>>4431871
>implying you need a license or registration to drive a car on private property

>>4431871
You only have to have a license to operate a car on a public road. Why would you believe otherwise? Like I said >>4431710


Enjoy your completely unregistered home-defense vehicle in peace. It's not necessary to follow any laws unless you drive off your private property.

>>4431871
you dont. only on government roads.

you can drive it on your own land without any paperwork

>>4431871
>implying most states you dont need a license to buy a gun
>implying some states you can even carry a gun in public

>>4431875
Because liberals must tell people their feelings

>>4431889
And likewise, responsible gun owners protect their already-protected rights. Audibly. Thus the cycle of life continues.

>>4431877
oh boy a second civil war is going to be started because of the 2nd amendment?

LOL you guys truely are crazy, gun nuts indeed.

>>4431889
>How do you tell a liberal from a conservative?
>You don't have to, they'll fucking tell you.

>>4431875

Liberals just CAN NOT FUCKING HANDLE when someone lives differently than they do.

>>4431878
Never said that. Dealers having to perform background checks is a great thing. But background checks one private sales is realistically unenforceable.

>>4431844
Like your source, fucko? Can't be bothered to read the law, at least you could hit wikipedia.

Presently, 18 states regulate private firearm sales at gun shows. Seven states require background checks on all gun sales at gun shows (California, Colorado (§12-26.1-101 and § 24-33.5-424, CRS), Rhode Island, Connecticut, Oregon, New York, and Illinois). Four states (Hawaii, Maryland, New Jersey, and Pennsylvania) require background checks on all handgun, but not long gun, purchasers at gun shows. Seven states require individuals to obtain a permit to purchase handguns that involves a background check (Massachusetts, Michigan, North Carolina, Iowa, Nebraska, Minnesota). Certain counties in Florida require background checks on all private sales of handguns at gun shows. The remaining 33 states do not restrict private, intrastate sales of firearms at gun shows in any manner.[18][19]

>>4431849
OMG THEY REGULATE MY HOBBY WHICH KILLS PEOPLE ITS PROOF THEY WANT TO RUN MY LIFE AND NAZI COMMuNISM

moron

>>4431338
>a house with a gun in it is more likely to have a resident shot with a gun.

[citation needed]

>>4431837
>lost the debate at a federal level
>Most Americans don't want gun control
>Only a very loud minority
>With 0 statistical evidence to prove that new laws and legislations would provide any sort of change to any of our violent crime rate other than causing it to go up
>Full argument is "MUH CHILLUNS TINK OF DEM" "COMMON SENSE GUISE!" "THINK OF MUH CHILDRESN" "90%!!!!!"
>Is THIS mad about losing the debate
>I HOPE YOU SPILL YOUR MILK AT SCHOLL TOMORROW >:(!!!!
>lol
>mfw

>>4431895
Lol

>>4431894
Its only about guns and not the fact that the government can monitor your phones, detain you without purpose, cancle your rights, and spy on you with drones.

Only about th guns... YUP

>>4431894
See... the thing about anything on the Bill of Rights.... you're pretty much guaranteed a civil war when someone fucks with it. That's why it's there. It's un-fuckable, or your government has collapsed.

>>4431874
>not just anyone can buy a gun because DURR BAKGRUND CHEKS
>background checks are ineffectual and can be avoided
>BAWW MUH FREEDUMBS
What's your point, exactly?

>>4431898
how?

>>4431852

I'm for regulation, and I own 2 guns shithead. Both given as gifts, and no background check thus required.

>>4431899
>New Jersey
>implying you even own any cool longguns

To all of the people saying "hurr durr the police will protect us":

>Warren v. The District of Columbia

The Police have no legal obligation to protect you. They have a moral obligation to protect you, but they also have a moral obligation not to take bribes or arrest people for driving while black. Hell, half the time the Police are no better than the criminals that they supposedly protect us from.

Pic unrelated, but still relevant to this discussion.

>>4431899
That still isn't a loophole.

People are still required to fill out the FFL at gun shows

>>4431898
So basically background checks are useless and don't prevent anyone from buying guns.

>>4431894
Its is a fucking amendment! The second fucking amendment! Hell yeah ill fight for it! Without our constitution, what are we?

>>4431892
>already protected rights
who do you think is protecting them?
do you know what our politician are sworn to do or how legislation gets passed?

>>4431909
... Are you serious? Think about it.

>>4431904
>implying there is more than one amendment
>implying the US constitution has other parts in it

The reason it's called the "second" amendment is because it only takes a second for the boogy man to rape your entire family. Unless, of course, you exercised the second amendment. DON'T TREAD ON ME!!!!~!!ONE

And by ONE I mean I'm a ONE issue voter.

>>4431338
> accidents happen

luckily that doesn't justify banning, otherwise everyone would walk to work.