/ck/ - Food & Cooking

That's about what I spend on groceries every week and I shop at fairly expensive stores. Can you post your last few receipts?

rice. beans.

Do you have a decent blender?

>>4391659
yes I do
>>4391638
I will look for em

Good eggs are full of nutrition, buy pastured if you can. Buy whole chickens, roast them for a meal, make stock, and use leftover meat after you make stock that falls off the bones for salads. Carrots are cheap and versatile. Buy in season, learn to embrace ethnic markets.

That sounds like a decent budget. Stock up on rice, potatoes and pasta, they are cheap and will fill you up. Get cheaper cuts of meat like chicken thighs and always keep an eye out for discounts.

Pic sorta related, my grocery bill for the week. The American equivalent shouldn't be too different.

>>4391668
do you have any good tips for making a cheap soup with the chicken stock? A lot of the loose veggies seem to be expensive, like broccoli is nearly 5 dollars for a small head here. Its ridiculous

Lower Michigan btw, 22 miles outside of detroit

>>4391675
the potatoes and pastas is a lot of what I was eating before. I was trying to go a bit healthier, I have a lot of weight to lose.

>>4391678
>$5 for a head of broccoli

What the fuck. No wonder poor people are so fat. In a white neighborhood that would be like $2.

>>4391629
Let us count the ways

Rice: $1-2 a pound, parboiled is healthier
Beans: $1-2 a pound, $1-2 a can prepared
Bell Peppers: $.69 to $1 per bell
Cucumbers: $2 for three
Tomatoes :$1 for one. Canned is best bet and cheap as fuck, just do it. From $.50 per can to $2.00 depending on diced, whole, sliced, volume, etc.
Broccoli: It's horrible and nasty but cheap, like $1-2 a pound, which is a shitload.
Zuchinni: Once again cheap as fuck $.50 to $1 per Zuchinni, and I've seen it go as low as $.25
Eggplant: Fucking get them at Aldi's. 1 costs $1. Fucking amazing.
Onions: Lol these cost like $1 a pound. Cheap as fuck shit right there.
Garlic: Like $.50 to $1 a head. You can get these prechopped stuff it may or may not be cheaper/easier to use.
Potatoes: these often costs less than $1 a pound
Sweet Potatoes: The most amazing thing in the world. Like $1 a pound too maybe a bit more.
Rutabega: Fucking cheap as fuck. Usually like $1 for a big one which is like 2 pounds. WHY WOULD YOU NOT BUY THIS?
Turnips: They're not that bad. You can get a bunch for like $1-$2 and it comes with a lot of nice greens and the turnip itself.
Celery: A little expensive sometimes. But sometimes it can be found cheap. Bags are usualy like $2 and come with like 4 or 5 stalks
Asparagus: A little pricey and $3 a bunch. May come down to $2 sometimes. Still absolutely delicious.
Carrots: You can get them for like $1-$1.50 a pound.
Spinach: You can get a big box at Sams for like $5, a little pricey but it has like 3 pounds of Spinach in it.

>>4391683
A single plain salted baked potato should be less than 200 calories. Don't go overboard with stuff like butter and they should be fine.

Watching the amount of food you eat seems to help. I've lost 5kg since last summer by using only portion control, and I'm a lazy fuck who pretty much only leaves her room for lectures. If you can bring yourself to stop snacking, that's good too. Don't buy snacks. If you don't buy em you can't eat em. If you feel like you can't stop eating, quell the screaming demands of your belly with plain water, it really does fill you up.

Btw what are your stats, OP? Height, weight, gender, amount of physical activity.

>>4391720
Not them, but if you have to snack, just eat some cut up carrots.
Portion control is really important, as is drinking water

>>4391691
>>4391691
you misunderstood, it is a white neighborhood its a suburb in metro detroit, but just for a pound of sliced deli turkey its 8 dollars. That makes 3 decent sized sandwiches at best. Cheese here is just as bad

I wish we had some farmers markets around here

yet I can buy a large frozen pizza for 2.50

>>4391711
>Broccoli
>Horrible

Roast it, motherfucker

Do you have a farmer's market near by?

>>4391711
Bananas: $1 a bunch usually. Just constantly buy them. If they turn black they're even better for Banana Bread or baked goods/ice cream

Apples: $1 a pound for the cheap ones. $2-$3 for the nice stuff. Nonetheless completely affordable.

Pears: Usually $1.50-$2.00. Even better than Apples IMO.

Oranges: This shit is like $1 a pound for even the nicest ones. But I hate Oranges so IDGAF.

Grapes: Only buy them in season. Outside they are too expensive and horrible tasting to fuck with. When in season you can get like 3 pounds for 3 bucks. Which is a shitload of grapes.

Strawberries: You can get like a pint box for $2-$3 dollars.

Blueberries: You can get pint for $2-$3 dollars too.

Blackberries: Tend to be a little mor expensive $3-$4 a pint box

Peaches: Fucking cheap as fuck in season. Find a local farm and you can get them as low as $.50 a pound. Usually see em in store for $1-$2 a pound otherwise.

Melons: You can buy one for like $2-3 dollars. Canteloupe is especially nice. But Watermelon is great too.

Mangos: Shits like $1 for one. Not as cheap as most stuff but delicious still.

Grapefruit: Honestly I wouldn't touch this nasty stuff. A fruit is like $1 and it's close to a pound though so. your choice.

Pineapple: Get it canned. Its like $.60 for a can. Jesus.

Can't speak for Pomengranites, Persimmons, etc. They aren't popular/onsale here.

>>4391729
dude they are screwing you on the turkey
just buy turkey leg or such
and use the drums as regular for dinner
and the thighs put in the oven and roast and slice those bad-boys up for your sandwiches

this way you can stick it to the man

>>4391720
I am nearly 650 lbs. I am so heavy that I haven't left my house in the last 3 years, its real bad. I started a plan that took my weight and height (6 foot 1) into account and they are recommending 5500 calories a day, which to me is still far excessive. I would like to realistically get it to about 3500.

The hunger is really the hard part. I was so used to eating massive amounts (I could eat a entire little caesars hot n ready and a Italian cheesebread for dinner) so my stomach is always wanting more as i've been eating much less.

That is the biggest problem. I have been trying to supplement my meals with healthier snacks like fresh nuts and fruit but the nut prices around here are so insanely high that I cannot really afford it. Yet I cant just eat light meals and not end up failing because the hunger is too great.

I just want to find cheap things to work in between meals so I can distract myself from the weaker hunger.

>>4391675
not many vegetables on there son

>>4391729
What supermarket are you going too?

>>4391678
Like i said buy in season when broccoli is cheaper.
Soup
Bring two quarts of stock to boil, add a cup of brown rice and resume a boil. Once the boil is resumed, cover and reduce to a simmer. Cook two hours. Add two to four cups of vegetables. And simmer twenty to thirty minutes. Last time i made it I used a zucchini, carrot, celery, onions, spinach, and mushrooms but use what you have. Add spices right before serving if you want, but not necessary other than salt and pepper. I used tarragon, basil, and dill last time. If you have it, stir in a half cup of white wine. Serve.
A three dollar bottle of wine goes a long way in adding flavor to other dishes too.

>>4391711
your prices are a bit lower than here but a lot of good options. Thank you.

>>4391747
are you an anti-semite?
if so, fuck off! i don't care what happens to you!

>>4391751
kroger and bushes. There is also a walmart here but their produce section is woefully small and a bit suspect freshness wise

>>4391765
just a fat american image macro I collected, no offense meant.

>>4391629
>I am also a povertyfag and just can't believe some of the prices I have been seeing. It costs so much more than the garbage I had been eating

Yeah, I mean except you're objectively wrong

>>4391760
Cook the rice one hour not two, sorry

>>4391771
well fuck you anyways
i am not rejoicing on your misery but your bigotry made me not GIVE A FUCK about you and your sob-story
fuck YOU

>>4391747
Holy fuck bro, that must suck. Godspeed on your journey.

Yeah like >>4391725 said just snack on some cheap veg. Personally I love baby plum tomatoes/cherry tomatoes because they're sweet and juicy and taste almost like candy. They last even longer if you cut them in halves and put them in small serving bowls. Keep 2 litre bottles filled with water next to you at all times, and drink from them every now and then to give you that full filling.

I used to buy snacks in bulk and tell myself that I would make it last, then accidentally the whole thing. Lesson: DON'T BUY UNHEALTHY SNACKS. You may have to power through the first few days relying heavily on willpower, but eventually your stomach will get used to not being stuffed all the time and shit will become easier and easier.

>>4391776
my cooking is limited atm because I can only stand up for such a short amount of time. I am working on it though and as I gain stamina and can stand more, I will be able to prepare more elaborate healthy meals.

>>4391749
I have carrots and onions at home, and my campus store sells broccoli for pretty cheap so I just buy that stuff when I need it. Also motivates me to leave the house.

>tfw I just noticed 1/3 of the bill is ice cream and cookies and chocolate

>>4391779
k, sorry you feel that way. It isn't a sob story, someone asked my measurements and I gave em. I want no pity, I put myself here through years of idiotic choices

>>4391784
>my cooking is limited atm because I can only stand up for such a short amount of time.

Why?

>>4391800
>strawberries for $1.67/lb

lel

>>4391776
10 $ tip? What... WHAT THE FUCK? Why would anyone do that?
No one tips me for simply doing my job.

>>4391800
because I weigh nearly 650 lbs and standing any more than a minute or so makes my back feel like its being beaten with a pillowcase full of batteries.

The only way i can describe it is that feeling you get when you and a friend have to carry a heavy piece of furniture a far distance. I have that feeling after a very short time of being on my feet.

I haven't even showered in well over a year because of it.

>>4391629
don't buy almonds. buy eggs as your protein source. Should be able to get it down to $70-ish.

>>4391817

gonna need another source of omega 3s in that case. a molecularly distilled fish oil gelcap once a day should suffice. or canned sardines.

>>4391668
>whole chickens

He'd have to be careful with the dark meat though. Even without the skin, it can be kind of fatty = higher in cals.

>>4391815
there is no way this is real

>>4391815
>because I weigh nearly 650 lbs and standing any more than a minute or so makes my back feel like its being beaten with a pillowcase full of batteries.

>>4391815
Holy christ what.
How do you get to that point?

>>4391822
>omega 3s

absolutely irrelevant. All fats vary in their omega composition.

>>4391815
>because I weigh nearly 650 lbs
>I haven't even showered in well over a year because of it.

You're fucking lying
I refuse to believe you're a real human being

>>4391817
Stop posting this image and giving psuedoscience medical advice. It is dangerous .

>>4391831
nice sources bro

>>4391831

>Stop posting this image and giving psuedoscience medical advice. It is dangerous .

Have you seen /fa/'s diet image?

It's horrendously bad for you, it does work though

>>4391691

>yfw the grocery you work at has large broccoli heads in bunches for under 2$

also for reference, ohio here

Apples are 1.68/lb, pears 1.88/lb, bananas are 0.54/lb, ripe ones are 0.28/lb.. potatos are around 2 for 0.88(we have a few varieties and I can't remember them all), cooking onions are 0.88/lb, sweets are 1.48/lb.. a 1 pound bag of carrots is 0.78, celery is 1.48 a bunch and lettuce is 1.48 a head

I can go through and label some more things if you'd like, the prices change often tho

>>4391836
/fa/ has a diet image? I gotta see this.

>>4391824
you were saying...

>>4391836

I've seen /fit/'s diet image and it makes me 10/10 rage every time, but mostly due to the fact that it looks like it was made by an illiterate person.

>>4391845

thread hidden, I didn't need to see that. I was trying to help too...

http://www.easyliving.co.uk/beauty/100-snacks-under-100-calories/

This might help, or give you some more ideas.

>>4391765
>>4391779
>butthurt on 4chan

lel

>>4391678
$2 for 2 of pic related. I eat it all; stalks included. Just chop it all up for a salad or soup. Really good. Comes out to quite a bit of broccoli.

>>4391855
*forgot pic

>>4391815
Damn. If I had to make a recommendation, check in with /fit/. You'd be surprised how many 'healthy' foods are actually quite bad when it comes to trying to lose weight.

Fruit comes to mind. It's really just pure sugar with a tiny amount of nutrition. An apple has as much sugar as a can of Coke.

Yogurt too is marketed to be 'healthy', but it's really packed full of sugar and shit. Unless you get full-fat, plain yogurt.

Look into eliminating sugar, and reducing empty carbs like bread, pasta, crackers, etc.

Focus on nutrient dense foods like whole eggs, cheese, meat, vegetables, seafood, nuts, and full-fat dairy.

Fat is very healthy for you. I assume, being 650lbs, you are very insulin resistant at this point. So avoid things that will spike blood sugar, aka, eat plenty of filling protein and healthy fats.

>>4391826
It started as a normally fatty. I eat out a lot, hated my mothers cooking and was too lazy to do my own. I used to work out and play sports on and off though so it was fat but manageable.

Then I ended up on probation for weed, tried hanging around the same friends and resisted...didn't work. Violated probation, and was given an extension.

Realized I had to stop hanging out with my old friends if I was going to beat probation, so I started just playing PC games back in 06 and ignored my friends. Got addicted to second life, world of warcraft, etc, and stopped moving. Kept eating bad.

Days turned to months turned to years. The heavier I got, the more I had to lose. I would diet but my willpower would wane after a couple months and i'd see how much I really needed to lose and how long it would take to do so and just give up.

This is my newest attempt as spring fever kicks in.

>>4391766
>these prices

jesus krist

>>4391865
yeah this place is a shithole for eating well. I am trying to talk my mom into starting a small garden, that will at least help supplement the bill a bit.

>>4391845
lol thanks for making me feel better about myself

fucking move

Get Asparagus
Get Bananas
Get Mushrooms

jesus

Go on a all asparagus diet

>>4391877
I am now. It is very easy to when motivated. The biggest issue for me is that after a couple months, that big burst of motivation and willpower plateaus and then all I can see is how little weight I have lost in that couple months compared to how much I need to lose.

Its just really difficult when I know that I have to keep doing things I really dont like doing (working out and eating foods I don't enjoy as much) for 4-5 years before I will see the results I need.

And even then I will have to figure out a way to get some of the loose skin removed or stapled back with no money and no insurance...but that is a problem for another day.

>>4391857

Ohiofag here, 3-4 of those for under $2

he has to be bulshitting on the broccoli prices

>>4391882
the worst part about that add is its all sale prices. Anything not listed there is normally at least 1-2 dollars more than the shit sale prices they have.

I did take advantage of the asparagus and banana prices, corn too even though its not the best veggie.

never been a big mushroom fan.

Look! 8 Bell Peppers for 6 dollars!

Apples!
Onions!
Celery!
Tomatoes!

>>4391845

Didn't you look at yourself in the mirror and think

"I'm fucking hideous and an abomination against nature" at any point?

How do you fucking reach the point where your flesh forms layers and pockets

>>4391888
do you drink soda?

>>4391901
>san marsino sauce for 6 dollars a jar

that shit costs 9 bucks a jar here

fucking no excuse man

do they have farmers markets wher eyou live? those are stupid cheap

>>4391711
>parboiled [rice] is healthier
stopped reading right there

>>4391823
buying whole chickens is economical, and dark meat has nutritional benefits that are greater than that of white meat despite being higher in calories and fat. If this guy was trying to lose a few pounds it would be an issue, but going from eating whole pizzas in a sitting to eating a leg quarter with steamed cabbage and some carrots is fine.

BUY IN BULK.

I cannot emphasize that enough.

Honestly, I have found the exact opposite of OP's experiences, because I buy in bulk. My average meal, unless I splurge on an expensive cut of meat, generally costs cents per person. For a complete and filling meal. On the other hand pre-processed crap, if it's anything decent, is more like dollars per meal. My typical grocery shopping bill has cut in half, and I make fewer trips to the store.

So yeah, buy in bulk

>>4391895
of course I did, even when I was only normal-fat I would do that, but I had gone through that my whole life. I wasn't getting laid in high school. I lost my virginity to a canadian hooker. The cons of being fat were never big enough for me to make me stop what I was doing. Especially when it was so much hard work and dedication needed to correct it.

My justification for it was that it didn't matter if I was a sloppy ham beast since I didn't care to hang out with my friends much anyways and was happier on the internet. On the net, no one knows you are a slob unless you tell them.

But now, it is at the point where I can't even live a normal life. I want to go outside, I want to be able to do things with my friends again and be a normal human.

>>4391747
it gets easier once you go a while on a reduced calorie diet, your hunger is more bearable

I find it hard to eat 2000 calories a day now

>>4391901
no soda but I drank a lot of sugary juices (oj, cran grape, etc) and have always had a chocolate addiction. I never went a day without at least 2 or 3 candy bars

>>4391904
they do once or twice a year but normally only when its nice and warm out. Which it hasn't reached yet in michigan.

>>4391779
JIDF pls go

>>4391911
what kind of stuff do you buy in bulk? What kind of meals are you eating nightly? Break down the last 5 meals you had for me

Others can chime in as well. I am very curious to how /ck/ people eat.

>>4391906
It has more nutritients and fiber than white rice. you retard

>>4391916

even you did not help.

show kindness, love, and understanging

it's all we can do. stanging and shit. do it.

>>4391747
your not constantly high on pot, are you? thats makes me eat like a madman.

also i can eat like 1 or 2 slices short of a costco pizza and im 150lb

>>4391912
thats what im really hoping. Its very hard right now. I am still very hungry after meals

breakfast today- 3 eggs, 2 pieces of dry toast

lunch- 2 peanut butter/whole wheat bread sandwhiches, can of low sodium veggie soup, few pretzle sticks

two glasses of green tea and 6 cups of water in between.

That was just since noon and im still really hungry.

>>4391917
There are costco's everywhere around you

go to one

>>4391918
>parboiled rice
>cooking and food
>parboiled rice
>food
nah

>>4391931
don't you have to be a member?

>>4391678
Make sure you buy your chickens whole, and butcher them yourself, that way you have all of the chicken, and you have the carcass for making stock. Better flavour than store bought. All you need is equal parts carrots, onion, and celery, water, and some salt.

How to: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yyp66Lo3CZc

>>4391835
I have seen you use this retort frequently in your conversations after you get someone intelligently butting your advice. You should cite your sources.

>>4391928
I was, I quit two weeks ago for good. My income was severely cut, thankfully. Pot makes me eat chocolate way more than I already want to.

>>4391815
>I haven't even showered in well over a year because of it.
how do you wipe your as after you shit. genuinely curious. i know you can. theres always a way. i had both my hands bandaged up for a month and i found a way to wipe my ass.

>>4391908

I know these feels OP. For people who naturally maintain a healthy weight, it's really difficult to grasp.

It's such a big change in lifestyle going from constant junk food to healthy eating. I went from 350 to 230 (and unfortunately back again). I had to stop looking at food as an enjoyment, and start thinking of it as fuel, which i hated, as i really enjoy cooking and eating.

Its a tough struggle, and now being back to my heaviest is when i appreciate how good I felt having lost the weight. But keep at it.

>>4391937
video bookmarked. Thank you. This will save money too.

>>4391934
Yes. Buy a membership. It is WORTH it.

>>4391917
>what kind of stuff do you buy in bulk?

Rice, pasta, dried beans, frozen vegetables, pork/chicken/fish when it's on special or a bargain, potatos, etc... If you can spend a couple dollars on something to get 5 or 10 pounds of something, do it.

>>4391923
so you're saying the final solution is love?

be mein!

Also OP you need to read up about a diabetic diet and practice it. Because you are going to have it whether you like it or not within the next 20 years.

>>4391930

No wonder you are hungry, you have no real food there aside from the eggs.

>>4391937

Throw the veggies and chicken carcass in the pot, just cover with some water (clarification).

I recommend getting some dried beans, soaking them for at least 4 hours, cook them and then add them to you chicken stock, add more veggies and some chicken meat, and you have a simple soup. Soup is not really that hard, you can make it with anything you have in your fridge, all you need is a bit of stock + whaever ingredients you have lying around. The reason I suggest beans is because they fill you up longer, and they are really delicious.

>>4391947
the only reason I hadn't considered coscos is that 1) I always assumed it was all bulk, and since I live 'paycheck to paycheck' buying bulk isn't an option because one bulk item that costs me 30 dollars is more than half of my food budget right off the bat and one cannot make many meals with 30 cans of diced tomatoes.

and 2) buying the membership ends up being one week that I cant buy groceries. When the money situation gets a bit better around here through I will go for it.

>>4391955
what would you substitute in those meals? I thought peanut butter was 'real food' due to the protien

>>4391946
Yea you can do the math in your head, becuase if you look at the price of chicken breasts per kilogram you will see it is way more than buying the whole chicken. Just freeze the pieces of chicken you don't use. You just buy like 2 or 3 chickens, maybe when they are on sale, go home cut em up and freeze em, then you have chicken for a while.

>>4391944
I will try. The first couple months for me are always the easiest. Its after that burst of motivation starts to wear out that I struggle. Especially when the change comes so slow in comparison.

I think it will be easier this time because ive lost so many physical abilities that watching them slowly come back will be rewards in themselves.

I can't wait till I am small enough to use my shower again. I never thought I would miss something so much. I sometimes have dreams about taking a shower. Its fucking sad.

Cabbage is the best vegetable for poorfags, as are onions, peppers and most root vegetables. I was never a poorfag so I don't know exactly but I try to cook cheap for my family most days so we can go out to eat every weekend. If I buy any expensive ingredient I try to stretch it out by mixing it with cheaper ones. I do a lot of stir fries which seem to be cheap if I use a lot of things like carrots or asian greens like bok choy.

Also buy in season, asparagus is horse fuck expensive 3 seasons out of the year, but during spring I eat it even as much as 3 times a week.

>>4391930
Don't eat sandwiches anymore unless you use low calorie bread

Don't eat toast

Don't eat pretzle sticks

Eat meat and Vegetables. Specifically greens.

Morning should be Eggs with greens mixed in . Onions and Bell Peppers diced or spinach. Maybe some low fat cheese on top. Oatmeal is also acceptable. Maybe with some greek yogurt But you really need a big source of Protein. That means Eggs, Greek Yogurt, Meat of some kind be it ham or otherwise.

Lunch needs to include some kind of protein. Peanut Butter is fine but a bit expensive in the amount to/protein threshold. Beyond that it's far too fatty. If you are going to eat eggs in the morning don't eat peanut butter for lunch.

Eat a chicken breast. Grilled in a George Foreman grill or something. Or cooked on a tabletop. Season it with some simple spices. Italian or BBQ spices rubs are good and low calories. Serve it with some boiled Peas and Asparagus. FrozenPeas can be cooked quickly in the microwave. Try baby peas. Some carrots too would not be bad. Or broccoli if you like it.

Dinner once again should be based on a nice lean cut of meat. Chicken, or Fish, Pork Loin can work as well. There are many different kind of flavorings that can work for these. Here you can cook something with a mixture of Onions, Bell Peppers, and Chicken, tomatoes may be involved too. Serve some beans with it. From a can if you must. But not baked beans those are full of sugar. You can also eat a carb here like some rice or potatoe but do not eat a massive amount of whatever carb you pick

>>4391958
Well go in and take a look at the prices it will be able to inform you whether or not you can afford it.

If you are low on funds and have a low income then apply for food stamps jesus christ

>>4391985
lol thats where much of my food budget comes from 120 per month on bridge card

>>4391638
Latest receipt. http://imgur.com/IPt6RpN

Not as filled with veggies as it should be but right now I have the palate of a 10 year old child. I am trying to try new veggies and ease into them as an adult but a lot of things I previously did not like.

as you can see I spent more than half my food budget on very few items. I need to work on shopping better. I send my mom to do the shopping and haven't been in a grocery store in years due to being a recluse, so I rely on threads like these to get shopping ideas. It will get better as I learn more

>>4391886
Well, the larger ones are usually 2. The medium to small are 3-4 where I live. Still not bad.

>>4391981
That is very doable for me. As for the occasional sandwich, what kind of bread do you recommend?

Also go to Aldi's.

OP, go to the poorer sections of your city. You'll see that there are many stores that are really cheap and offer decent produce. The one I usually go to is called Town Talk. I can walk out of there with a cart full of the prettiest veggies I've ever seen for $40 or so. It's in a crappy part of town, but hey, who gives a fuck when you're getting 15 pears for 3 bucks

>>4392026
wow 99c per pound of strawberries, that is unheard of here. The closest one to me is a bit away but I could make a trip out there now and again. Good call.

Go vegan if you're really looking to lose weight.

>>4392015

you aren't going to lose weight with a diet of cheese, triscuits, cashews, processed turkey burgers, and apples

go to /fit/

>>4392015
>semisoft so and so
I have no idea what the hell this is but it sounds like something you don't actually need.
>Cashews
Too expensive, don't bother.
>Triscuits
Don't buy packaged snacks.
>Turkey Burgers
For about $2 more, you can buy a bag of chicken breasts, which will make more meals.
>Muffins
You already know.

>>4392048
bran muffins, but I get it, no carbs

the semisoft is mini babybels, the lil lowfat cheese things

>>4392041
I will have to go to /fit/ I honestly thought all that stuff was good. I got it off the diet site sparkpeople

There is just so much false info out there, it is really difficult to tell what is good and what isn't.

A great low cal snack that tastes amazing is called papadums. A large one contains 30 calories, a smaller one containing 20. They cook in the microwave in 40-60 seconds which would be great considering the limited amount of time you have to spend on your feet.

Also, there's this thing called shiritaki noodles. I haven't tried them, but they're a 0 cal noodle. The downside is trying to find them in stores. I've looked everywhere and can't find them. You'll probably have to order them online.

Other than that, a great low cal food that really fills you up are baby carrots (or whole carrots)

Cabbage should also be a friend of yours. Low in calories and very cheap.

And if you need some protein without the fat and calories, check out "GimmeLean meatless ground meat." you can get it in the vegetarian section at Kroger, and it has 70 calories, 15g protein per serving (I think it's 1/2 cup or 3/4 cup, I'm not entirely sure). It tastes decent. Also, check out Boca Burgers. Same cal and protein amount, .5g fat.

That is all. Good luck.

>>4392062
It's not exactly that it's bad so much as it is that you need to put more thought into what you're eating. You have to make sure you're getting proper nutrition and just picking random "good" foods won't do that.

>>4391791
Dude you seem like a cool guy to me. Try to buy your ingredients as whole as you can. Today I ate whole wheat pancakes with grains and seeds in them and I was full till 21:00. Also don't give up losing the weight will be the hardest thing you've ever done but it will be worth it. Also start saving up for the lose skin surgery if you have the change.

>>4391747
One piece of advice for nuts,
watch portion sizes. Only eat very small portions, like a small handful, or else you can be ingesting excess calories.

>>4392075
did you make the pancakes from scratch or did you use a mix that had grains and seeds? if so which ones? do you use syrup? I am honestly curious about this stuff because I really don't know what works and what doesn't as far as feeling full with a good calorie to nutrition tradeoff.

Thanks for the motivational words

>>4392062

Just eat real food. In reasonable quantities. In a balanced way.

>>4391961
It can be if it only has peanuts in it but you run into a lot of sugar and hydrogensted oil if you dont read labels . Even the n peanut butter should be used sparingly. This is a good example of what constitutes "real" food http://www.100daysofrealfood.com/real-food-defined-a-k-a-the-rules/

you could always just kill yourself

>>4392113
that should say "hydrogenated"

>>4392113
>http://www.100daysofrealfood.com/real-food-defined-a-k-a-the-rules/
great link, bookmarked.

As for fish, the only kinds I know for sure that I like are cod and Orange roughy. I am willing to branch out and try new kinds but will have to do it slowly because of budget risks when I get something I don't enjoy.

Are there any other kinds of fish you could recommend based on that?

> costs so much more than the junk I normally eat

Do you live on a fucking isolated island where all fresh foods are heavily taxed?

You're going to the wrong stores and buying the wrong shit.

1. Frozen veg, peas, carrot/cauli/broccoli mix, spinach, collards/etc

I live in wisconsin and I dont buy fresh broccoli. I just buy onions, cabbage, carrots, potatoes, artisan lettuce, green peppers, and mushrooms fresh.

> buying deli meat

No. Fuck. Never buy sliced sandwich meat. It's expensive as all fuck. Get like cheap cuts of chicken, look at the ounce weight of shit, get canned tuna and fish on sale.

I also have a problem with eating a shitton. But I fixed it by eating primarily carrots and apples as snacks, whenever I want. I buy birdseye normandy blend veggies and will get like 4 meals out of the bag. Just make sure to eat enough protein and if you fill up on veg with that you'll stay fuller.

I eat a lot of barley and oatmeal because it gets so much bigger when you cook it. Try making soups like.... a bag of split peas, an onion, 2 cups of carrots, broth, 5oz of ham, pepper and maybe cabbage.

You can just sit and chop and toss it all in. Easy peasy. Heheh geddit. Soups are really hands off and easy to make... plus low cal and filling.

After not eating junk a the time for a while my taste buds taste everything amazingly. I dont need dressings for salads and can't even drink juice as is from a bottle because it's too sweet.

The easiest way to avoid eating shit foods is to never buy it. You might go home and cry and all you can think about is that shitty pack of M&M's, but if you have impulse control problems it is MUCH MUCH better to not even allow yourself any every once in a while. It gets to be a very slippery slope for those of us who are rather sick in the head when it comes to food.

>>4392131

Most white-fleshed fish tastes about the same and can be prepared in the same manner. If you like cod then you would like catfish, tilapia, haddock, halibut, sea bass, flounder.

Just a pointer OP, you can replace eggs with plain yogurt in recipes and butter with applesauce.

I can make banana bread this way and eat like half a loaf for 350cals.

>>4392085
The mix and from scratch are 9 out of 10 times the same thing only you pay triple or more for the mix.

> Whole flour
> half full milk
> i called is grain earlier but Google translate says its called wheat
> flax seed mix
> two eggs
> cinnamon
> stevia

You can use syrup but only if its your birthday. You can experiment with the amount you use of each ingredient. If I have a to make up a bad day I use baking sheets if I behaved and know I will behave the rest of the day I use butter.

Really learn how to cook, yesterday I made a cup of whole rice with 7 kinds of veggies and a variation of foe yong hai and even my 7 year old niece that hate vegetables asked for more. Also experiment and challenge yourself.

Eat Seasonal!

I feed 3 people on under 200/month (I also garden and stuff so I kinda cheat). Try to find ways to buy only what you need. Don't bother with organic unless you know the farmer. Buy whatever cut of meat is on sale and freeze what you don't need.

Buy Melissa D'Arabian's book about $10 dinners (they feed 4 people and you can usually get away with spending less) and READ IT. Like it's an actual book. Not only does she have a lot of great recipes (that again feed 4 people a 3 course meal for $10) and plug and play type stuff, but she has a lot of tips on how to save money at the grocery store that I use all the time. She also has the bonus breakfast section on how to make your own yogurt and granola for cheap and I love it (costs me pennies on the dollar compared to the grocery).

You can do it!

>>4392161
that honestly sounds delicious. The applesauce would be better than butter in it really.

>>4391885
Ten pounds weight loss in a month is good progress for anyone, btw. Because you're so much bigger you might lose more each month, but a 10lb loss is great so if you can accomplish that then you're well on your way.

Join myfitnesspal.com, it really works.

I have motivation problems too. I was losing weight, then just hit depression hard. Since November I've only gained back 15lbs though. Been trying to still maintain even if I dont lose more.

Fuck I want to be skinny though.... I should only eat 1500cal a day. Sucks.

Hey OP,

One thing I haven't seen here is that you should try to eat more frequent meals that are smaller than a pizza and breadsticks.

I was 285 two weeks ago and I am down to 279 now and its continuing to drop from how I am carrying myself.

My meals typically go something like this:

Breakfast - 3 packets of quaker instant oatmeal or 2 egg omlette with onion red bell pepper baby spinish and a slice of cheese. Along with this I always make a pot of green tea.

Snack - Wheat thins and cheese or some fruit.

Lunch - Usually I go downtown and get a sandwich only because I don't have time to cook a bunch of shit on Sunday and bring it in throughout the week, I am trying to change that though!

Snack 2 - Baby carrots or red pepper and hummus, hummus is delicious and filling.

Dinner - Something small.


I worry about just going low fat, I think it would be better for your body if you just maintained proper nutrition and just let it use your fat for energy.

Since I have been snacking, I find that I have a TON of energy and it seems like my metabolism is sky high, thus burning calories when I do nothing. On top of that, I do not feel hungry at all during the day after the few days it took my body to get used to it.

A while back I lost a bunch of weight by not eating, and it was a terrible idea because I put it all back plus like 20 pounds because I was just doing it to look better. I remember when I was putting it back on I could feel the mound in front of my body growing and restricting my mobility and I hated it, but I couldn't stop. This time though I am doing it the correct way, with the goal of being healthy and living a long life with my wife and children.

I know I am just talking about my own shit now, but I guess I just hope you can just make lifestyle changes with the goal of becoming healthy first, and having weight loss be a second(but naturally occurring) goal.

You seem like a cool guy, and I hope you can do it.

Just go low-carb and you should be fine, you can buy whole chickens for very cheap and depending on who you buy from, fish can also be quite cheap.
Broccoli is like what a dollar each head?
Living healthy is literally a cheap life

>>4392187
>myfitnesspal.com
ive been using sparkpeople which is very similar, with full calorie counter and assisted meal plans, workout counter and lots of motivational stuff. Hoping it helps.

1500 calories a day would be pure torture for me. I've seen hot spinner female eat more than that.

A thing lots and lots of fatties tend to do is give up if they make one mistake. Don't do that OP if you ate that pack of cookies its done and it doesn't make it okay to drink that soda and eat those fries. Accept that you made a mistake and continue your day don't start over tomorrow since that pack of cookies already ruined today. I don't know if you are one of those who does that but if you are always know that giving up because you made a mistake only makes it worse.

>>4392185
It's pretty good and just make sure you don't use too much flour, you'll want a denser bread otherwise the sweetness from the applesauce and bananas won't be as strong.

I dont remember the recipe because I usually just eyeball it, sorry. Baking soda, baking powder, salt, mashed banana, flour, cinnamon, nutmeg, applesauce, and yogurt are the ingredients though.

Sloppy the only way I was able to lose weight was really to completely eliminate some shit from my diet, like butter and cheese and bread, pasta, rice, etc. I cant fucking control myself and my eating habits and snacking habits. So I just dont buy it because I know I can't control it.

My food list is pretty much this-

Veg
> cabbage, onions, potatoes, carrots, frozen peas, frozen spinach, frizen mixed veg, green peppers, lettuce, mushrooms
Fruit
> apples, bananas, and full fruit spreads
Dairy
> regular cottage cheese, plain yogurt, 2% milk, low fat cream cheese
Meat
> boneless skinless chicken breasts, pork sausage, cheap ham cut up and portioned
Other
> peanut butter, lentils, split peas, red beans, black beans, great northern beans, canned Italian tomatoes, barley, sushi rice, Mom's Best Honey Oats, quaker quick oats, steel cut oats, coffee, honey, bouillin cubes.

And general baking supplies including applesauce, as well as spices.

I have to fuck with my mind when I shop, look at ounce weight and I do all this math in my head and think about all the money I'm wasting if I get something not on my normal list. Shit over 15c an ounce is really very expensive. You can live without those things easily and still eat good food. But I have to cook all the time. Helps that I am really fond of soup.

My soup base is usually a can of tinned italian tomatoes, cabbage, water, half a bouillon cube, and lentils.

>>4392225
It's still winter out and I don't exercise in the cold. When the snow fucks off I can go biking and then eat a bit more.

>>4392147
Sliced deli meat isn't that expensive. At least here I get 2 pounds for about 4-5 bucks

It doesn't fucking matter what you eat, your body does not know the difference between sugar and carbs. Count your calories and remain under a deficit, if you sustain this weightloss is inevitable it's as simple as that. You could eat only fast food as long as it was under your maintence level you would still loose weight.

>>4392258
It depends on the kind of carb.

It does know the difference between complex carbs and sugar.

like I said Kid needs to go on a diabetic diet and balance shit by glycemic load. He's going to get diabetes eventually. I don't think there's even a chance of him not getting it.

>>4392258
Yeah but you're losing lean muscle and fat instead of just fat.

The difference between eating under with junk and eating under with good food is being skinny fat vs being leaner and more shapely. You can have a lower overall body fat % if you diet with good foods and proper nutrients.

>>4392174
>I feed 3 people on under 200/month (I also garden and stuff so I kinda cheat).

Holy crap, you do not know how to shop or everything is super expensive where you live. Especially if you garden too.

>>4392268
Wrong

>>4392261
>It does know the difference between complex carbs and sugar
How does it know? Does it have some sort of check system inside of the intestine? No. You're wrong and science does not support your opinion. If he hasn't got diabetes already then he has the chance to reverse the damage. Just like reversing type 2 diabetes is possible.

>>4392268
>You can have a lower overall body fat % if you diet with good foods and proper nutrients
Wrong. Science has shown that natural bodybuilders using flexible dieting actually get leaner than steroid-using clean eaters that eat every two hours. Clean eating is a facade, it does not work alone and should not be wholly relied upon. You are implying this OP has substantial muscle any way... Regardless, your body will loose muscle when loosing weight unless you are lifting weights. The body will only hold onto that muscle if it thinks it needs it through weight training

>>4392288
I'm afraid I'll have to disagree with your rather compelling argument and go with what I've learned from various sources including books, professionals, and the combined experiences of websites full of people.

>>4392313
The guy was talking about a fucking pure diet of mcdonalds vs a more balanced diet.

Yes, either way you WILL lose muscle if you're not weightlifting. However the person eating mcdonalds will end up skinny but in worse shape compared to the person who ate a more balanced diet.

I didn't say any shit about 'no bad foods ever' clean eating. Balanced diet. Occasional fast food, but in general healthier foods, all foods in moderation.

>>4392327
The point I am making is it doesn't fucking matter what you eat, the body will hold onto that surplus of calories. If OP only ate fruit and vegetables at a surplus he would still be fat

>>4391800
I wish shit was actually this cheap where I live. 1lb of ground beef is over $5 here, 16 ounces of cashews are ON SALE for $11, tiny ass little packages of maybe 4 strawberries cost $2, 1lb bags of frozen vegetables are a little over $3...

>>4392340
Well that's a great point but I don't know why the fuck you're talking about how you'll gain weight no matter what you eat when that was not what I was fucking talking about. I was talking about what can happen when you do the complete fucking opposite of that.

>>4391629
Fellow recovering hambeast here; I've dropped 50lbs since starting. $50-70 isn't too bad really. I've started drinking protein shakes for breakfast with a bowl of oatmeal (260 calories total) and it makes breakfast way easier. The big jars/tubs of protein shake cost about $50, but last a month or two.

Chicken thighs have been my friend. Not the leanest cut, but very cheap and flexible. At about 140ish calories each, they aren't going to kill you. Just make sure they aren't sitting in their own fat when they cook, and yank the skin off before you cook. For that matter, whole friers are nice.

Squashes have also been a pretty good bet, at pennies on the lb. I usually slice them thinly, and cook with the chicken. Brown rice makes a good side at about $1/lb dry.

Salmon heads. Jesus babyfucking Christ are they cheap and delicious (probably work out to $1-2/lb for the edible portion, if they're leaving the collars on). Again, fattier than regular salmon, but no worse than the chicken thighs.

What's working for me here is eating stable for the calories I need at my level of activity, and desired weight. I started with a torturous 800 calories a day for the first month, but now I'm never painfully hungry at 1500-2000 as a 6 ft. tall male.

>>4391629
sloppy go read the /fit sticky
>>>/fit/
and start walking every day , move more
listening to audiobooks or music makes it fun
>>>/t/558652

>>4392392
excellent, was just re-listening to all the ice and fire novels. This will give me much and more to listen to after.
>>4392367
good tips, squash was one of the things I was hoping to grow this year.
>>4392352
I feel your pain. It isn't quite that bad but much more than I was expecting. I am not one for a fat tax, but I do wish government could find some way to subsidize healthier, whole foods in America. It would really help cut down on all the hambeasts. They could look at it as a military expense, since they are already fearing problems recruiting due to so many fatties.

I am waaay late to the game, but if you like chili, it is very low cal. Get a slow cooker, since you have trouble standing. You can get cheaper, leaner cuts of beef and stew them for a long time. Lots of things are tasty in the crock-pot. If you go to foodnetwork.com, Ellie Kreiger makes good recipes that are low-cal. Her three-bean chili is only something like 230 calories per serving.

>>4392428
wow I actually had no idea chilli was a good option. That will be great because I love it.

whenever i make something i make it high in veggies, low on meats n cheese

sandwhiches, throw
bell pepper, onion, tomato, lettuce, avacado, peppers, berries and lots of it

as wall as one or two slices of meat and some bread

my pizza, i use a real thick tomato suace using an assload of tomato, light cheese, and lots of veggie toppings

>>4393578
Berries in a sandwich?

Hey /ck/, I'm also trying to cut down on weight (19.1st or 267lb by 6 foot something, haven't had height measured since I was 14) and had some questions;

A) Is a 1,600 calorie diet a good idea at this stage? I've been doing it for about 3 weeks now bar one failed day

B) How often is it a good idea to eat pork/red meat? I don't really like fish and Poultry would get fairly repetitive on its own. I've heard twice a week is a good safe limit for Red Meat, but is that two meals per week or two days per week?

C) Should I bother trying to consume more milk? I never used to and am now having a small glass of milk per day ('bout 200ml of skimmed) and am just wondering if the nutritional benefits are worth it

D) How do I into cooking, I'm quite lazy and as such I'm limited into eating small quantities of processed foods

E) Are lemon's a good fruit snack? I've been just flat out eating one every now and then but I'm not sure if this is a good idea. Also how careful should I be about consuming it?

>>4391675

Prices are decent, all except for the salmon. Unless you got a really, really small amount of it. Halfway decent seafood is fucking expensive as fuck in America. Unless it's shellfish in season. Occasionally mussels and clams become super affordable. Even frozen shrimp and whatnot is so much more costly than it should be.

>>4391779
Problem bro?

>>4391930

Try to cut down on eggs. I know you're a bigger guy, but for the average person, one egg has nearly the amount of cholesterol that should be consumed in a day. It's all in the yolk though, so what you can do is make 1-2 whole eggs, and then honestly use as many egg whites as you want within reason. Or swap out your whole eggs for egg whites entirely. They're still quite good (for scrambling and omelets you gotta watch because they dry out easier than whole eggs would), and the average large egg white has something like 14 calories. No fat.

It sounds like you haven't had enough fruit or vegetables so far. Try incorporating salads, fresh fruit, and steamed/roasted veggies in with your meals. I don't agree with Michael Pollen on everything, but the man was right when he said, "Eat food. Mostly plants."

Finally, you might consider switching up the frequency with which you eat. Instead of spacing apart three decent-sized meals per day, maybe having six small ones would work better for you. Eating more frequently can satisfy your brain enough to stop telling your stomach you're hungry, because you keep stimulating your digestive system, which in turn keeps telling the brain that there's food in it. Plus, you'll probably be eating a wider variety of things than you might in three meals. This gives you the false sense that you're eating more than you are. If that makes any sense.

>>4393697
1600 calories is too few calories for you. Use a calorie calculator to determine what you should be eating to lose weight, aim for losing one to two lbs per week. Anymore and it is unrealistic for you to stick to it for very long. I calculated that if you wanted to lose 75 lbs in a year, which is a realistic goal, and guessed at your age (I said 23). It estimates you should start off eating about 2000 calories and then recalculate for every ten pounds you lose. Right now, if you aren't getting any activity, you are burning about 2500 calories a day just being alive. Reduce that by 500 a day and you will start losing weight, a pound or two a week. http://www.webmd.com/diet/healthtool-metabolism-calculator is the calculator I used. I guessed you were six feet tall, so you might want to adjust that.
This guy >>4391817 will try to promote his diet to you, if you want to try it then go for it. I don't like it for numerous reasons, mainly being it is too restrictive and unrealistic for me. I went with a diet that focused on nutrition (it is called Eat Fat Lose Fat) and was high in healthy fat/ low in carbohydrates (not completely cut out, and I only ate complex carbs) and moderate in calories. It worked well for me, but there are several ways to tackle this you just have to find the one right for you.
I have to say that lowering your intake carbs and sugars is a good idea though.

I eat pork about twice a week and red meat about the same. That means I have one serving twice a week by-the-way. I do try to eat pastured/wild animals since they are healthier, generally have less fat on them and taste better. They do tend to be more expensive. The pork I get is usually tenderloin. The red meat I have access too is venison and I get it for free. It is very lean, and has a healthy wild diet so that is good. I rarely eat beef, unless I can get a good deal on grass fed. My staples are meatless meals, chicken, turkey, or fish.

>>4393892

skim milk is useless, if you are only drinking 200ml the drink whole milk, it is better for you. If you are hung up on the idea that whole milk is bad for you then, drink 2% but really the whole milk is better nutritionally. It will also keep you satiated longer.

stop eating processed foods, it makes it easier to eat junk food and they generally aren't healthy. I recommend "How to cook everything" by Mark Bittman. I am not going into what to eat because it varies by diet, but if you stick to a protein and two vegetables for lunch and dinner and a protein and a piece of fruit for breakfast you will be fine. It is ok to use a little butter too, just figure it into your caloric intake. Try to eat a salad every now and again too. Eat all vegetables. Eat a variety of them weekly. ( don't keep eating the same ones every meal)

Don't eat whole lemons in one sitting, they wear away the enamel in your teeth and can fuck up your stomach. You can squeeze a wedge into your water if you want.
OH, drink plenty of water.

>>4393894
oh and recalculate your calorie requirements for every ten lbs you lose. And try to move around a little if you can, you will feel like being more active the more you lose weight so lose ten lbs and start an exercise regime (walking is great).

>>4393735
please read this: http://www.health.harvard.edu/press_releases/egg-nutrition

>>4391638
WTF is that?

>>4393975
an abcess

>>4391629
>am working with about 50-70 dollars
you can't eat healthy on that much per week?

My wife and I eat very healthy on about $100 a week

May I ask where you are from OP?

>>4394107

he answered this question, read the thread

>>4394109
You could have just answered the question with less effort.

>>4394116

it was more satisfying to call you out on your laziness

>>4394119

is this the thread where OP is from California?

>>4394119
Well, I can fully understand your reasons to do so. Have a nice day!

>>4391776
You can't buy all that shit for just pennies.

That image is fucking stupid. Sure, in the long run, that's how much the ingredients used would cost per dish, but stocking up on all that stuff is expensive as fuck.

>>4391779
I wonder who is behind this post?

>>4394232
it is a pretty common troll image.

>>4394232
>stocking up on all that stuff is expensive as fuck.
If you want to cook frugally at home you have to keep your larder stocked. If you just run out and buy what you need for a particular dish on the rare occasions you cook you're not saving any money over dining out.

I cook every day, and have probably $150's worth of stores (oils, spices, beans, rice, canned tomatoes, pasta, nuts, coffee, utility produce, vinegar and such) at any given time. When I shop I pick up whatever fresh ingredients I need for the next few days, plus replace whatever is running low in my stores.

That might seem like a bit of an investment, but it allows me to make a rotation of about 75 dishes cooking every day. And some of those dishes are under $3 a serving. Many are under $2, and a handful are about a buck a meal.

Fifty a week sounds fine for one person. Get the Sunday paper and start cutting coupons.

I would buy the basics; potatoes, bread, cheese, lettuce, pasta noodles, sauce, cereal, milk, some frozen veggies, etc.

As for spices, just stick with onion and garlic powder. Don't get too fancy unless you can afford it.

Then some meat of your choice, if you eat meat. I'd get a whole chicken, you can really do a lot with chicken. Alfredo, sandwiches, salad, fajitas, etc. Just keep things simple for now since you're on a budget. Meat + potato + veggie. Or maybe some rice.

For snacks I would get tortilla chips and salsa, or baby carrots or some yogurt.

I think allrecipes has a "on a budget" tab with a bunch of recipes. I could be wrong though.

This has to be one of the most kind and helpful thread I've ever read on 4chan, and I've been here since 2006.

>>4391747

Try eating slowly. Very slowly. So you can feel yourself getting full while eating. And drink a whole glass of water before your meal.

Forgot to add, try eating less meat. I know they're expensive but the morning star burgers and chicken patties are actually pretty good and they're SO much better for you. I recommend the chicken patties and nuggets, since they taste the best.

>>4391678
There is actually a great soup mix in the freezer section that includes all the veggies, you just add the chicken.

>>4391729
> its a suburb in metro detroit, but just for a pound of sliced deli turkey its 8 dollars.

Can you be a bit more specific as to location? Are you shopping in a Quickie Mart?

I live in the 5th/6th most expensive market in the US and I'm not even paying that much.

>>4391845
Good lord your nipples are as big and dark as oreos

>>4391973
Why not stick with us to stay motivated? Make a thread with us every week or so and keep us updated? We'll give you more food advice and the like.

OP must be a humongous troll. I also live in Southeast Michigan/Metro-Detroit and I can buy a week/week and a half's worth of fresh fruits and vegetables from a creepy market for around $15-$25 a week. Add on $20-$30 for meats and pantry items.

And stop being a fatass. 1 lb of deli meat will make "3 decent sized sandwiches"? Learn about portion control. 2 oz of deli meat is a serving size.

Not to mention WE LIVE IN FUCKING MICHIGAN. There are still farms here and farmer's markets, which are incredibly cheap. It's spring, bitch so get ready for fresh vegetables for cheap. Or keep sucking up my tax dollars so you can eat frozen pizzas and hopefully you'll succumb to your obesity.

>>4392065
They have shirataki noodles in Safeway here in western Canada. Expensive though.

i find it hard to believe that you're spending more on good fruit and veg than you would be on cola, chips, and other junk food. if you really need help, look into getting an appointment with gleaners. they help pretty much anyone and are located in detroit, howell, pontiac, and dearborn. i would also suggest you eliminate meat and replace it with beans and tofu for protein needs [which, btw, are much lower than you probably think they are].

>>4391845
/fit/ here
at this point, you should do PSMF - protein sparing modified fast

1. Eat whatever your goal weight is in grams of protein, so if you would like to be 150lbs, then eat 150g of protein
2. Take multivitamin and extra potassium/magnesium (multis can't fit all that shit in)

that's it, don't eat anything else, it will just impede your fat loss (extra calories)
eating less protein is dangerous, because you'll lose lean tissue (your heart is a muscle, so don't undereat protein)

>>4394398
this sounds really nice, I like the concept. I think OP should ask his doctor first, and then try it.

Former hamplanet now /fit/.

$60 Dollars a week is more than enough to get all the shit you need. This is my usual pull list:

Post Great Grains Protein Blend
Nature's Path Hemp Plus Granola
1% or 2% Milk

Bag of Fuji or Apples
Bag of Spinach
Tin of Blue Diamond Low Sodium Almonds

1 9oz Package of Turkey
1 9ox Package of Ham
OR
6 Skinless Chicken Breasts
1 Can Each of No sodium added:
> Peas
> Green Beans
> Carrots
> Black Beans
> Dark Red Kidney Beans

Quaker Old-Fashioned Oats
6-7 Blueberry Chobani Greek Yogurt
6-7 Medium Bananas

18 Large Eggs
2 Medium Sweet Potatoes
A pack of English Muffins
1 Jar Laura Scuddle's Natural Peanut Butter

Large Bolthouse Green Goodness
Large Bolthouse Protein Mango
Pack of Low-Fat String Cheese

The above usually costs me about $50 every week.

Almonds, Peanut Butter, Apples, Cheese, Oats & Milk I have to get about every 3 weeks

>>4394331
you are what you eat

>>4392057
No, I don't care what kind of muffins they are. Muffins=cake nutritionally speaking. Always.

>>4393697
A. Calculate your BMR. Subtract 500 calories and eat that daily. You will have to adjust for less calories as you lose weight.
B. Eat lean cuts of red meat. If you're trying to lose weight, I would hold off on eating the fattier cuts until you're at your goal weight, then eat once a week. Also, are you sure you don't like fish? I think that's something people tell themselves but they just don't know how to prepare it well.
C. No need to consume more milk unless you are a baby cow. You can get calcium if you;re eating vegetables at every meal. (green, leafy).
D. Every meal you cook for yourself will likely be healthier than anything you buy prepared. Search "beginner's recipes" and start from there. Eat a lot of omelets and salads too.
E. Unless it's giving you digestive issues, there's no reason not to eat lemons if you enjoy them.

>>4391629
Rice and beans are cheap as fuck.

>>4391836
Can't find, somebody has to post, I must see this

>>4395378

System thinks your post is spam blahblah...

A: That's the current target (I used the /fit/ calculator) although it is challenging to stay within 1600 per day

B: I normally go for low fat pork or things with the fat cut off, if not then I do it myself. Not really sure which cuts are naturally low fat though

C: That was what I thought at first but "you aren't consuming your diary limits" nutritionist babble

D: I normally make myself small things but I can barely call it cooking. Chicken fillets with sauce or pork n' beans kind of thing

E: Yeah, I just suck at getting fruit/veg into my diet. Having a glass of apple juice is as far as I can get

>>4395480
drop the juices, they are pure calories and don't help keep the hunger away nearly as good as solid food does. Also doing some cardio and eating a bit more is one way to keep the hunger at bay with the same net calories.

>>4392065
I just made like a pound of potato curry and bought some papadums for a homesick Indian friend. Jesus christ are those things delicious.

>>4395505

Would using a rowing machine count as good cardio?

Processed food always costs more than fresh fruits, vegetables, spices, herbs, meats, ect ect. Food is unbelievably cheap, if you think it is expensive, you're shopping wrong.

Start learning how and where to stop. If you live in a city with ethnic grocery stores or farmers markets. Shop for vegetables and fruit at these places. You can buy all manner of produce for HALF the price of a typical grocery store.

Have important stables on hand and buy these in bulk. This means hiting up an asian market or an indian grocery store so you can buy a 15-20+lbs bag of rice. Larger bags of rice lower the price of rice by more than half. Buy bags of dry beans in bulk. Buy flour and yeast and make bread from scratch. Buy a bananas once a week and eat at least one or two a day. It is cheap healthy food which provides tons and tons of energy for less than two dollars a bunch. Lean how to create your own salad dressings with vinegar and oils (I like walnut oil and rice vinegar). Have huge bags of frozen vegetables in your freezer. Buy eggs in bulk. Yes, those huge boxes with 36 eggs are your friend. Buy decent meat from places like Costco, Sams, or BJ's Wholesale. You can buy entire chickens at Costco for 69 cents a lbs. You can freeze the chickens until you're ready to use em. When you cook em, you can eat the meat and use the carcass to make chicken stock. You can freeze the chicken stock and have it ready and waiting anytime you want to make soup or gravy.

>>4395708

That is more strength training, but it does sort of venture into the cardio territory. As long as you stick with an exercise routine on a very regular basis you are doing pretty good. Most people can't stick with anything.

>>4394388

One of my friends is 29 and 500lbs. He complains that eating healthy is more expensive than eating garbage... the guy eats fast food and processed prepackaged food for almost every meal. He easily spends more in one day on food than I do in two weeks. Throughout the day he keeps going to the drive through to buy large cokes and fast food with his mom. Not surprisingly, she is just as obese as he is. If they decide to go to a gym they walk on a treadmill for 10minutes and then hit up a convenience store to buy 20 dollars worth of candy bars, chips, and soda to reward themselves for doing good at the gym. I am not joking about the amount they spend after going to a gym. I went with him and his mom one time to their gym and they fucking did that. :O

>>4395808

I currently do about 20 minutes of rowing, shower, do some work then walk for 30 minutes in the evening. I should probably do more but space is really limited where I am, I can barely lie down

>>4395829

At least get them to have diet cokes or something jesus.

>Reward themselves for going to the gym

Nope

Make bulk fruit salad with plenty of lemon juice once a week.
Make bulk salad greens (do not use prepackaged greens)
Only buy seasonal stuff (the info graphic is needed)
Look for farmers markets / local farms with bulk picking prices.
Can your own jam/preserves.
Learn to like oil/vinegar/lemon based dressings.
Get banana's when they're green. (they'll taste a little less sweet but they're still edible)

>>4395937

They drink diet sodas throughout the day, but they reward themselves with real soda a few times a day. What they don't realize is HOW much sugar is in solution. The sad thing is that the diet sodas are WORSE for the obese than the sugar sodas. During the studies on artificial sweeteners, all the rats blew up like balloons and became morbidly obese because of how the artificial sweeteners change how the body metabolizes certain things. It is no wonder that whenever I see an obese person in public, they almost always have a can or bottle of diet soda in their hand.

That is good man. The key to exercise is to maintain a diet and routine that you can keep improving and expanding upon. The more you workout, the more you can workout. If you can't workout at all. It doesn't mean you can't do anything. That guy who was known as the 650lbs virgin lost 100lbs this year BED RIDDEN. He broke his leg really bad and had been totally immobile for months. You should check out his youtube account. He originally lost almost all of the 650lbs of weight he had put on, but gained it all back. Now he is working hard to lose it again even after a serious injury as a result of his weight. https://www.youtube.com/user/david630lbs?feature=watch

>>4391729
hello Detroit friend: please cease your faggotry and go to Eastern Market, a thousand-person farmer's market every Saturday and Sunday

seriously though, affordable and fresh shit, anything you want

>>4395981

Vinegar is a god send. It is not only healthy and good for digestion, but it is an appetite suppressant.

>>4395994
Yeah, but try to go for more of a nondistilled / unfiltered vinegar like apple cider vinegar.
That white vinegar stuff doesn't have most of the health properties you want.

>>4396004

I usually only use rice vinegar. Occasionally a white wine vinegar or a balsamic.

>>4396018
>>4396004
>>4395994

What about Malt Vinegar?

>>4395990

>Tfw used to drink up to 3 diet sodas a day

>>4396036

I love malt vinegar. I just don't happen to have any on hand right now.

>>4396036
If you can get it unfiltered I think it might have those health benefits, but so far my searches are all coming up "benefits of apple cider vinegar" so I think maybe the cider vinegar has the same effects even when filtered.

OP, /fit /ck lurker here also recovering fatty, 250 to 180. At your fat percentage, provided you intake vitamins and enough minerals (primarily electrolytes) you could most likely fast down at least 100 lbs of fat mass with very little lean tissue loss (the larger % of fat means more muscle sparing). Fasting is cheap as balls, but must be done carefully, otherwise id recommend light Keto or PSMF (protein sparing modified fast) which is used in hospitals to really kill weight before surgery (and it works very well) check torrents for Lyle Mcdonald's books.
Good luck to you.