/ck/ - Food & Cooking

/sp/ and /fit/ always have to make an issue out of where they're from, I don't understand this

Anyway, look into Mark Bittman's minimalist column/books/etc.
Rouxbe internet videos
Pre-1980s copies of Joy of Cooking
America's Test Kitchen has good info even though it's racist

Side note: a lot of folks here are into the cult of alton brown but I find many of his recipes disgusting and it detracts from whatever entertainment value his show may have. Personally I'd recommend you avoid him until you know enough to separate the stupidity from the truth, but I'm sure a lot of people will disagree

>>4377681
>10.01 tip

So, basically, you could have bought 2 pizzas? What the fuck, man.

Buy a catch-all like Joy of Cooking that has lots of recipes as well as basic instructions for technique. Start with simple recipes. Grow from there. Assuming you really are a PB&J 101er that's where you start.

Sorry to here about your mother, OP.

What are a few meals you and her like to eat? What food do you have in the house right now? I started learning to cook with pasta, potatoes, rice, veg and eggs.

If she had a stroke I'd recommend a whole food, plant based diet for her, so she doesn't have another one.

This blog has some good, healthy recipes: http://blog.fatfreevegan.com/
I think most are pretty simple.

Good luck.

>>4377681
>Pre-1980s copies of Joy of Cooking
It's just the 97 version (I think that was the year) that's bastardized. Though it's probably the most common one floating around for cheap. The latest version restored the original text and then made additions and you can get it for like $20 on Amazon. Just have to make sure to get the hardcover/bound edition. The spiral-bound one has phonebook paper and will fall apart in a month.

>>4377689
Nice thread for a troll, eh buddy?

>>4377693

If you have a decent used bookstore nearby you can probably buy 70s copies in hardbound by the truckload for like $5 each.

Haven't seen the latest version though, there's something to be said for new books I guess.

Also, I'm going to go out on a limb here and mention Larousse. I know I'm going to get called pretentious or something but like JoC, old copies are floating around out there for almost nothing and if you want to absorb a ton of terminology and history it's an amazing resource. As a straight up recipe for someone who needs hand holding and exact recipes, maybe not so much, but I still recommend it.

>>4377695
No, dipshit. I'm helping. You can reverse heart disease through a whole foods, plant based diet...

>>4377681
>Eggs
>32 cents
>Whole chicken
>..37 cents
>...
>...Bananas
>6.75

Am I being tricked?

>>4377703

I would learn to roast a chicken, make a pot roast, create a meatloaf, and how to bake fish. Those are easy,simple meals your mom will be able to eat and enjoy. Learn to poach,scramble and boil and egg. Learn to steam vegetables, or saute them. Learn to bake a potato and roast root vegetables. Learn to make a salad and vinaigrette. Start there, and then broaden your expertise.

>>4377718
>not learning to blanch
>not learning to braise
>not learning to pan fry

Son, I am disappoint.

>>4377718
oh and get a copy of Mark Bittman's "How to cook Everything", sorry forgot to mention that in the other post.

>>4377718
that comes later, get a handle on the basics then broaden your abilities Msr. Escoffier

She's going to need a diet rich in fish, veggies, fruits, nuts, and whole grains with other lean proteins occasionally, and low in refined carbs and sugars.
Fish is especially important, because of the omega-3s and other nutrients that help build brain function. Leafy greens and nuts are also important. Think baked or poached fish, salads, stir fries, rice pilaf made with brown and wild rices, oatmeal, etc.
A good salad that contains those beneficial ingredients is mixed greens with toasted walnuts, dried cranberries or grapes, some kind of creamy soft or crumbly cheese (whatever you prefer, like feta, or blue, or goat cheese) and a balsamic vinaigrette.
Stuffed eggplant is also a good choice. You can make a stuffing of lots of nutritious veggies, and then bake or pan cook a salmon fillet to go with it.
Just some examples.

Start with roasted vegetables, simple rice dishes, and simple meat dishes, then branch out.

>surviving off of pb n' j
Le shiggy donatello

>>4377735
Oh, and eggs. I forgot the importance of eggs.
Easy to learn to make all different ways, and contains some important nutrients.
Also, go easy on the salt. The daily recommended amount of salt is about 1 teaspoon per person. Most people eat 4 times that in a day. Use lemon or lime zest and juice to make up for it. Citrus has the ability to appease the same taste receptors as salt does.

>>4377735
Or instead of fish (which has a high chance of being polluted) she can have hemp seeds, flax seeds, chia seeds, avocado, walnuts, etc for the omega fatty acids. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/26/omega-3-vegetarian-vegan_n_1299283.html#slide=722321

Caregiver for stroke survivor here.

A lot of well-meaning people here are giving bad advice, as such recipes often have far too much sodium and fat for a stroke survivor.

She needs lots of fresh fruit, salads, cooked or raw veggies. These are obviously very easy to prepare. Find low-sodium recipes on the internet, as salt is very bad for people with CVD or heart issues.

Lean meats like chicken or fish are okay in small amounts, for protein. Try to avoid fatty meats like beef, absolutely no deli-style meat or hotdogs. Don't fry the meat; bake or cook in a crock-pot instead.

Smoothies are an excellent treat, and very easy to fix. Cut up fruit, toss in some skim milk or low-fat yogurt, toss it into a blender, and it's done. Bananas have lots of potassium (K) and berries are good, and you can even toss in some slices of avocado for extra K, which stroke survivors need.

Try to get low-sodium breads; an ordinary slice of bread can have a surprising amount of hidden salt.

Your mom's doc can refer you to a nutritionist, if you need more help.

Important: Help her with her physical therapy. It really helps stroke victims regain mobility.

Good luck, Anon.

>>4377671
Your mom's probably fat and unhealthy as fuck. So she would hate food that would have prevented heart disease and prevent another feart attack. But here you go >>4374586

>>4377821
I would limit salt consumption to moderate consumption though.

>>4377821
STOP POSTING THAT BULLSHIT.

STOP ACTING LIKE YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT NUTRITION, MUCH LESS DIETS APPROVED FOR STROKE SURVIVORS.

God. You're going to kill someone with your bad advice.

>>4377773
STFU stupid fucking vegan.

Get her wild-caught cold water fish. Salmon, mackerel, sardines, etc. Those have the most benefits.

>>4377815
fuck low-sodium. Just makes everything taste like, well, nothing. Just have them drink more fluids to balance out the osmotic pressure.

>>4377837
Nice references brah.

>>4377821
That diet is not healthy for a sick person, especially one that has had a stroke.

OP for you
http://www.nourishingdays.com/2009/05/one-pan-meal-roasted-chicken-vegetables/ leave the cayenne out if you want

http://karengracehealthandwellness.healthcoach.integrativenutrition.com/salmon-spinach-and-chickpeas

http://everydaynourishment.com/2012/02/07/game-night-black-beans-rice/

http://easynaturalfood.com/2011/11/05/vegetable-beef-soup/

http://nourishandbenourished.com/2012/09/27/not-your-mamas-fruit-salad/

>>4377905
see >>4377895

Sorry I'm at work right now. Ill answer specific questions when I get back and have access to my comp. I really appreciate all the input. All of you folks are wonderful

>>4377941
You have the burden of proof when promoting that menu plan, in no way is that a healthy diet for an ill person. You are either trolling or greatly misled. The diet you are promoting may have helped you to lose weight, but a person recovering from illness has different needs than you. OP's poor momma needs all the help she can get recovering from a stroke. What you are suggesting would not give her adequate nutrition to recover from her stroke.

>>4377994
>is that a healthy die

You keep saying that, but you give absolutely no reasons.

>>4377703
It's a fucking semi-subtle troll, yes.

>>4378001
Eating five to eight meals a day is difficult for a stroke victim. The medication and numbness deadens the taste buds and muscles and makes eating a chore, so three nutrient dense meals and a snack would be better suited.

whole grains, if prepared properly are beneficial to recovery, the also help prevent future strokes according to the academy of clinical nutrition. They provide a great deal energy, phytochemicals and nutrients and are easy for the healing patient to eat. Chicken can be served with the skin on and as dark meat, the fat flavors the meat making it more enticing and contains saturated fat that is vital for many biological functions, incredibly important to a healing body and brain. The added fiber from all the vegetables and the grains will mean the patient should drink plenty of water.
A person recovering from a stroke requires at least five fruits and vegetable (including tubers and bananas) servings a day. They should be varied in color. The vegetables need to be eaten with a small amount of fat, either olive oil or health, non-hydrogenated saturated fat so that the vitamins and minerals can be easily absorbed by the body. Protein is important because the body needs it to repair, more so than a well person. A smoothie would be a helpful option to replace a meal in the morning or a snack, but replace the whey protein with whole milk or yogurt. You can find a little more info here http://www.stroke.org/site/DocServer/NSAFactSheet_Eating.pdf?docID=987
and this too
http://www.hindawi.com/journals/jnume/2011/167898/

>>4378069
A whole foods plant based diet is really ideal. Not arguing that your diet would be more beneficial than say, eating McDonald's and Oreos. But people have hard amazing results by switching to a whole food, plant based diets. One famous example: Bill Clinton

It really is a life saver.

Fat can be provided by plant foods as well as protein, and it's healthier that way.

>>4378069
The meals are small, almost like snacks.

>whole grains, if prepared properly are beneficial to recovery

nope. If you're too lazy to research it, then just follow the stupid 200 year old food pyramid lol.

>>4378084
Yea, but nothing wrong with meats or poultry for protein either. Combine the two and voila.

>>4378084
I know you mean well, but a vegetarian/vegan diet would be very difficult for a recovering stroke victim to ensure all the nutritional needs are met. Bill Clinton had the benefit of having someone provide his meals that knew how to balance his nutrition. I would make the claim that a whole food/real food diet that includes animal fats and coconut/olive oil would be easier to maintain and more likely accepted by the person eating it. I personally believe that a vegan diet is lacking in a lot of ways, but that is a different issue entirely. Saturated animal fat and protein can be healthy too.

It is when you get into processing and hydrogenating fats that you see a real health risk.
I don't think anyone would argue that feeding a sick person a whopper over a spinach and sweet potato saute would be the healthier choice. And including a meatless meal a handful of times a week is absolutely alright, providing they are nutritionally sound, but a healthy diet can be maintained with the inclusion of meat. We disagree, but I can see your side of the issue.

>>4378094
I am not too lazy to research anything. I have been researching nutrition and traditional foods for a while now. I think the food pyramid/ my plate is DEAD wrong, I do not believe we should eat half or less of the whole grains recommended by the usda. They are still beneficial to included. A lot of care should go into preparing them (soaking/sprouting for example), and you need to vary the types of grains (brown rice, oats, kamut, spelt, quinoa,) but they can still be included. For that matter nuts should be sprouted or soaked but that is another issue entirely.

>>4378123
that should say
"I DO believe we should eat half or less.."

>>4378123
>I do believe we should eat half or less of the whole grains recommended by the usda.

So why include any grains or sugars?

>>4378158
because grains are easy to feed an invalid, they provide energy and good nutrition if prepared properly, and they are easy to prepare.

I never included added sugars in my explanation, food does have sugar in it naturally though.

Now if you want to start a thread about enjoying the benefits of eating a healthy diet/ or what is subjectively defined as a healthy diet then I will probably reply but I have answered your question and now the thread is way off topic.
Sorry, OP. I hope your momma feels better soon.

>>4378177
>eat grains because they're easy

Great reasoning. Enjoy your cancer, heart disease, and obesity. Also,

>implying vegetable soups & salads aren't easy as fuck to prep

>>4378188

>. Enjoy your cancer

you should know, posting the most cancerous reaction image available.

>>4378188

Your correlation doesn't make any sense.

they ARE easy to prepare. Especially in the context of providing nutrition for an invalid by a novice cook.

>Great reasoning. Enjoy your cancer, heart disease, and obesity. Also,

I have reversed my insulin resistance from eating a healthier diet that does include some whole grains. I have lost over 30lbs as a result of changing my eating habits and as far as cancer goes-time will tell. I have energy again, I no longer suffer from mood spikes and depression and I have maintained this for over a year. So either I am magic and my voodoo diet (I like to think of it as a lifestyle change) is working or you are making a gross generalization.

It would make more sense if I was supporting donuts as a remedy, not if I am supporting a serving of brown rice with black beans (as per the recipe I linked).

Soup and salad is easy to prepare, I even gave a recipe for a soup and one for a salad in one of my posts.

Also, eliminating grains completely from your diet isn't necessary. I could see doing it temporarily when losing weight, or eliminating certain grains if you are celiac. We don't need a quarter-half of our daily food intake to be whole grains but they do offer perfectly good nutrition. now, please if you want to discuss this further then make another thread.

I am no longer going to respond to you in this thread.

Q

>>4377687
We're Pakistani, so she makes a bunch of pakistani/indian food.

She has a history of high blood pressure, so I'm trying to keep salt to a minimum in the food.

>>4377689
I'll check this out, thanks!

>>4377735
Thanks for the tips.

>>4377815
Thanks a bunch. I know sodium is an issue, so I'll have to look out for that. I don't eat salty food as it is very much, so I don't think it will be too inconvenient for the whole family.

as for everyone else, I'll take the time to investigate more resources to see what is good and what is bad for her. I appreciate all the input.

>>4377671
talk with the social services department of the hospital.

they will take care of you even if you are a retard

You say you're paki/indo? No more ghee ever.

>>4379740
She uses canola oil. She wasn't even overweight really. 130ish pounds. She had high BP and she forgot to take her medication when we went on a trip. The stroke was caused by high BP, so we are assuming that she just didn't take it for a while and thats why it elevated.

I really don't know a lot of indian food but try allrecipes.com, they have pretty easy recipes and advice from other people.

Fill a bowl with pasta. Same amount you'd pour to eat cereal.
Cover with water.
Put in microwave 3-4 minutes.
Drain, cover in desired sauce. Buy pre-spiced or sprinkle herbs in it. If using tomato sauce, add a can of drained tomatoes and chilies to the sauce. I like it that way anyway.

Use canned chicken or tuna whenever possible. Canned chicken doesn't taste any different from fresh if you're using it as an ingredient (soup, for example) and it's way cheaper.

A little bit of oil, garlic, some rice, and every vegetable you can put your hands on is all you need for fried rice. It's way easier than it looks.

>>4379749
>She had high BP

Then she needs to eliminate all grains (corn too) and sugars from her diet. And limit fructose intake (fruit) to the equivalent of about 2 bananas. These cause inflammation. Sorry OP. Hope she gets better.

Salt isn't the issue, but I would limit it till her bp normalizes.

So this means a lot of low-carb veggies like broccoli.

>>4377689

Wow, way to make his mom hate one of the most basic comforts in life so soon after a huge physical and emotional ordeal.

Vegans are such niggers, honestly.

>>4379769
What I eat all the time is broccoli salad chopped up with some tomatoes, a little bit of carrots, red cabbage, onions, and boneless skinless chicken breast. And a handful of onions on the side. Dressing (pic related).

All chopped up. Or you can make a soup with the same ingredients with chicken stock.

>>4379779
>hate one of the most basic comforts

What comfort?

Here's a link on diet & bp http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2010/10/08/discover-the-secret-to-lowering-your-blood-pressure-in-15-minutes.aspx

>>4379789

food, clearly.

>>4379769
You need to STOP giving advice.