/ck/ - Food & Cooking

You don't consume anything other than ramen and Mountain Dew, why would it even matter to you?

>>4121045
proprietary information, they don't want people to be able to emulate their recipe

A lot of the time they do state what the flavor is.

When they don't the answer is obvious: trade secrets.

Who cares though? If you don't like the product then don't buy it. Simple as that.

>>4121048

well it could be some kind of poison or dangerous chemical that they are passing off as a "natural flavor"

>>4121045

well dog shit is natural, so think about it.

>>4121055

Sure, but dangerous chemicals are already illegal to put in food. If they are willing to break the law and put dangerous chemicals in your food and then call them "natural flavors", what's to stop them from lying about it in other ways?

They could say on the label "natural apple flavor" and then put poison in there instead. Once you think someone might be doing that then all bets are off.

whats even dumber is some chempphobe hippies care whether something is "natural: or not

>>4121055
>well it could be some kind of poison or dangerous chemical that they are passing off as a "natural flavor"
why would they do that?

>>4121082

preservative most likely. increase shelf life

>>4121055
And by "them" you mean the reptilians that control the world right?

Sage because reptilians only read posts that bump threads.

>>4121090
"preservatives" that shit drives me crazy how "preservatives are bad"

saying that is like saying non metals are bad

The only difference between natural and artificial flavors is their source. You can have two absolutely identical compounds, but one was made in a lab and the other was extracted from some beetle. The one made in a lab is considered artificial, and the other is natural.

>MSG with More MSG

>>4121098
I know my father is dead, but in a way, he still loves on in a way, whenever someone says that Oswald acted alone, dad smiles through the world government he helped establish.

>>4121135
>loves on in a way
should read
>lives on in a way
Fix'd.

Food Scientist here heres a breakdown on flavors

Flavors are made by combining various aroma chemicals. These aroma chemicals can be from a natural source or can be synthetic. Natural sources do not have to be from the flavor that its imitating, for example you can have a "Natural Orange Flavor" using aroma chemicals sourced from other plants. Because these chemicals are very strong and would be difficult to weigh during manufacturing, they are diluted with solvents such as water, ethyl alcohol, propylene glycol, glycerin etc. These solvents do not have to be natural for the flavor to be natural.

About safety - in fact, many of these aroma chemicals are known to be toxic for humans. A main component in cherry and almond flavor (also exists naturally in various plants) is benzaldehyde which is a neurtoxin. But like I mentioned, aroma chemicals are very strong that the concentrations used make it harmless. Also know that just about anything can be poison in the right concentrations.

Feel free to ask more questions if you have any

>>4121227

thanks

You know that fake raspberry flavor that they put in soda fountain ice tea? Its derived from Castoreum, which is an oil from the anal glands of a beaver. Labeled as "natural flavoring" in all ingredients lists.

>>4121574

well it is natural. Whats the problem?

>>4121574
Who found out that a beaver's anus tastes like raspberry?

>>4122190
heh

>>4122190

>>4122190
The same people that realized components of urine work great with moisturizers.

>>4121227
you are a gentleman and a scholar.

>>4121047
>proprietary food

>"Now with real beef!"

>>4121227

I don't wanna talk to a scientist. Y'all motherfuckers lying, and getting me pissed!

>>4121045
I should sell a product and list ingredients as: Excellent flavor, select herbs and spices and natural fruits and vegetables. Then a bunch of jackasses can defend me by claiming its trade secrets.

>>4121133
this. more often than not, "natural flavor" means MSG.

OP, you'd be interested in a book called 'cooking for geeks'. It's got a whole section on food additives, and relevant links to go find more out about it.

Not to mention it's got some killer recipes.

>>4123053

>more often than not, "natural flavor" means MSG.

uhh, no.

>>4123053
No, it really doesn't.

>>4122817

no problem

>>4122874

no but proprietary ingredients

>>4123051

Trade secrets are no joke. Flavor chemists who make flavors put in a lot time to create flavors, many involving dozens of aroma chemicals in very exact ratios to get the right profile. Hell, flavors are super easy to make so if they disclosed the ingredients flavor companies would go out of business

>>4123034
science how does it work?