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So I've been to the US before. Only East Coast like NY, NJ, ME, MA and so on.
This year I'm going to be an exchange student from Germany to the midwest. My exchange partner was already here and he had some fucked up eating and soda habits.
Now I wonder what the food there is like. Is it really as bad as for example Jamie Oliver says?

Pic Related: This movie makes me worry about my trip

>> No.3807029

The movie is a bunch of hype, just like anything from Michael Moore.

That being said, there is certainly junk food around, but nobody is forcing you to eat it. There are plenty of healthy food options, and don't forget you can always cook your own.

>> No.3807032

listen here, you fascist nazi skinhead, we don't tolerate your kind her in the heart land of merica', just stay in your shit tier country and go beat up some jews or whatever you do for fun there.

>> No.3807034

>>3807029
Sure, I already thought of that but as far as the cooking goes I guess I'm lost. My exchange partner said he was a great cook and he enjoys cooking when he really just makes boxed meals and brags about something he calls a pizza which is involving candy and barbeque sauce.

>> No.3807035

where in the midwest?

unless you're absolutely nowhere there should be well stocked supermarkets so you could cook your own

>> No.3807037

>>3807032
You made me lol
>>3807035
Border of Iowa and Illinois, but I already explained the cooking situation

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3807038

Yes.
Everyday they will make you eat at a KFC or a McDonalds. If you refuse there will be a feed tube forced down your throat and you will be made to watch in horror as some 400 pound obese lady in a scooter mashes up your taters n fried chickun in her mouth and expels the slurry of food stuff into the tube for you to eat.
You will drink so much soda that your blood will become acidic. There is no such thing as tea or water options out in the midwest. Only soda. Soda all day erryday.
And if you make such a fuss about the soda? Then it's purple drank for you.

Now the midwest also has a "no movement" rule. Meaning that after you consume a 2000 calorie meal at McDonalds you must not move for at least five hours. During this time your television options to watch are classic favorites like "Here Come Honey Boo-Boo" and watching Paula Deen's cooking show...her older shows of course with extra buttah.

In fact, food isn't really food out in the midwest.
It's actually all butter.
You got your standard butter chicken, butter fries, butter shrimp, butter soda, butter burgers, butter beans, butter pork, butter gumbo, butter spaghetti, butter fresco, butter fish, butter butter. You name it, it's buttered.
Don't expect any other food options.
They don't take kindly to foreign nazis trying to tell them how to eat.

>> No.3807041

>>3807038
You made me fucking lol

>> No.3807044

Dude, just avoid fast food. It's not that hard.

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>>3807038

>> No.3807051

Please don't judge the US on the midwest


You'll be fine though in terms of food if you're not a dumbfuck. Make your host family love you by cooking all the time.

>> No.3807059

Is there some special university you're going to or something?

Shame you're not staying up in glorious New England.

>> No.3807061

>>3807059
exchange student from Germany to the midwest

smart money's on he's underage and a highschooler

>> No.3807064

I love how much bad rep the midwest gets because of the fucking rednecks. Food here doesnt' have to be greasy and fried and coated in sugar, its just what the hillbillies like. If you're border Illinois/Iowa, you're in the center of agriculture my friend, you got options.

While I don't live there myself, I do live in Chicagoland and frequently drive through en route to visit my grandparents.

Firstly, nobody is going to force you to eat only fast food. It's easier, and some idiots see it as cheaper, but if you really have no other option just order something small (or save some for later, either works).

Second, even the most basic of cooks can figure out how to saute a few veggies and serve with chicken.

>> No.3807067

Give or take a few ethnic foods, food in grocery stores in the midwest is no different than food in grocery stores anywhere else here.

>> No.3807076

>>3807061
I would get b& then, wouldn't I?
>>3807064
I like fast food. I also like to eat a lot. Yet both not very often. I know it's propably just the usual "amerifats eating deep fried buttered butter bullshit" stuff you get in the media, but I was worried how much of it was true in perticular after talking to my exchange partner about cooking.

>> No.3807079

>>3807034
Most highscool/college age people are like that here. There are so many people who can't cook (you might meet people who brag about it) that being able to prepare your own hamburger helper is considered something special.

If his eating/cooking habits are that bad, chances are your host family will be pretty lazy, so it shouldn't be hard to convince them to let you do the cooking. If they're reluctant, just say you're proud of your skills or want to express gratitude or something.

>> No.3807082

>>3807076
Unfortunately, there is some truth behind it, but it's one of those cases where a group ruins it for everybody

>> No.3807095

>>3807076
no

in regards to your second post lots of people in the midwest are healthy and eat well. Lots, as it seems with your exchange partner, are inbred trogloditic rednecks who've never enjoyed food further than enjoying varying levels of sugar, starch, and fat.

Almost all exchange students from europe get fatter in America, though. This is mostly because they don't do any physical activity. You're driven everywhere, don't have anywhere to go outside of school, and spend too much time on the phone/computer contacting your fatherland. Avoid this and you'll be fit, no matter what you eat.

The best advice I can give is not to do anything but laugh along with the cunts who call you a nazi/make holocaust jokes. They'll do that your whole stay and getting mad won't help. The german exchange students always acted petulant when the class idiot would do that and it never occurred to them to just not care. the USA is less "politically correct" than germany and no white highschool kid from the midwest will hold his tongue for any reason.

>> No.3807098

>>3807027
Shop for produce and cook at home.

Don't bother eating at restaurants. I was forced to go out to eat at a restaurant last night after like half a year of denying requests. Fucking salt bombs EVERYWHERE, disgusting piles of meat and all other sorts of nasty shit.

Trust me: cook and eat at home.

>> No.3807100

>>3807098
hoo boy here we go again.

>> No.3807105

>>3807027
Eat barbecue and make your own food if you can and are so worried about it. What part of the midwest are you going to exactly OP? I used to live in Kansas and have been all of really

>> No.3807106

>>3807098
Chain restaurants are pretty terrible, if you're going to go out, avoid them. Diners aren't usually great, and if there's only one sit-down or "nice" restaurant in an area, it may not be good, since it won't have much competition.

>> No.3807108

>>3807095
I thought people in the US where even more butthurt about WW2 than Germans? People here are either total retards that live next to an old KZ and don't get shit or they get butthurt over everything.

>> No.3807109

>>3807100
you're forcing it to go by saying here we go

>> No.3807113

>>3807105
As already said, border of Iowa and Illinois.

>> No.3807115

>>3807108
If you say anything disrespectful about the Troops, Veterans, God, or Ronald Reagan, or someone's relatives to the wrong people yeah you're gonna be attacked. Possibly with a firearm.

Granted there's tons of people who have east coast sensibilities in parts of the Midwest.

>> No.3807117

>>3807113
Sorry, didnt read the thread, should have.
Just look around and find restaurants you like that are quality. BBQ should be ok around there, sausage should be good too.
Eat out a bit when you get there, if you dont find anything you like just eat at home and you will be fine.
Such is life in the midwest

>> No.3807118

>>3807115
I lold again. What do you mean by east coast sensibilities?

>> No.3807122

>>3807118
By east coast sensibilities I mostly mean yella-bellied libruls who'll vote for that Muslim what to be president.

Don't ever discuss politics in the US unless you feel very safe/patient.

>> No.3807123

>>3807115
Shut up man, midwest people are nice as can be, just be polite and dont try to start things by talking politics or some shit like some verbose east coast inflated cunt.

>> No.3807130

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>> No.3807131

>>3807123
Yeah, I agree. Seriously though I've had people want to attack me for merely implying their grandparents should pay more taxes.

>> No.3807135

>>3807130
>caring about offtopic threads on a board this slow

stay autismal son. It's not even offtopic

>> No.3807137

>>3807135
>it's a slow board so shitposting is okay!

>>>/v/

>> No.3807141

>>3807131
I went white water rafting last week with my girlfriend and we were stuff with this douchey new yorker and his 12 year old daughter for 3 hours. Everything any one said he turned back around towards him and how fucking awesome he is on the east coast. He kept talking about how his cousin owns 300 acres (near where we were) and only pays 800 dollars in taxes because he registered it as a ranch (even though he is building like 6 houses on the land just for himself). It took all my effort to just smile and nod my head without calling him a faggot.

>> No.3807142

>>3807135
I don't care that it's offtopic. I just sense a shitstorm attracting cancer. Abandon this thread while you can.

>> No.3807143

>>3807137
>this thread
>shitposting
pick one

also it would be >>>/mu/

>> No.3807148

>>3807143
>HURR MURICANS
>not shitposting

>>>/v/

>> No.3807149

>>3807142
Please don't
>>3807141
I know these people. Other extreme of asshole faggots.

>> No.3807173

>>3807141
Yeah I'd take a bigoted cornfed redneck over that style of cunt any day

I wasn't implying the east coast is better than the midwest in terms of people or anything, but it's certainly easier for Europeans to get by without angering/confusing anyone there.

>> No.3807198

>>3807029
>Michael Moore

>> No.3807206

>>3807148
>HURR MURICANS
>send them to /v/
>Not >>>/sp/ or >>>/int?

>> No.3807260

No one is going to hold a gun to your head and force you to eat too much food but food is marketed agressively here all the time everywhere and huge portions. Kind of like the tea break in England and India was created to sell more tea, Americans snack all the fucking time and don't think anything of it.

>> No.3807268

>>3807260
Basically, if he does eat out, only eat half the portions and ask for a doggy bag to bring the rest home. Portions are HUGE.

>> No.3807283

>>3807268

Indeed, even healthy things like chicken salads with vegetables tend to be three times as big as needed here and served with free sides of bread. In fact the free bread and soda refills you may find are probably meant to stimulate more hunger through sugar rush.

>> No.3807509

>>3807038
Bravo.

>> No.3807672

>>3807037
>midwest
>Iowa and Illinois
>Not the greater cincinnati area
You'll never know cincinnati chili OP. Sorry.

>> No.3807701

You have to have zero critical thinking skills to not realize all the reasons why Supersize Me is complete bullshit.

>> No.3808746

The food Americans eat is poison. The food you guys are eating in Europe is far healthier than what people are eating in America. If you come here, do everything you can to avoid processed foods and restaurant food.

>> No.3808751

>>3807672
I had that once. I was working at a fishing camp in northern Ontario and some american made it.

It was disgusting.

I thought it was a joke. I couldn't believe it was actually considered an authentic dish.

>> No.3808762

Its all about choices, the food there is as good or as bad as you want it to be

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>>3808746
Did you just fall out of your mother's uterus?

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>>3807032
pretty much everyone in the Midwest is descended from germans, he will fit right in

>> No.3808776

the portions here are rather large, which is why i still order off of the children's menu, even as an adult. though, sometimes, they wont let me and i end up taking a lot home. so be prepared for left-overs.

>> No.3808774

>>3807051
>Please don't judge the US on the midwest
Its funny how idiots who have never been to the midwest confuse everything not on a coast with the south. The midwest is mostly a really nice place, just a little boring if you are in the wrong parts. Now the south, that is a shithole

>> No.3808780

>>3808746
>The food you guys are eating in Europe is far healthier than what people are eating in America
actually its mostly the same stuff

>> No.3808787

>>3808780
Nah, the EU has more stringent food regulations, especially when it comes to untested GMOs, mycotoxins, etc.

>> No.3808791

>>3808787
> especially when it comes to untested GMOs
you say that likes its a good thing, Damn you antiscience luddites

>> No.3808792

>>3808791
I appreciate the EU's stance on relatively novel, untested crops. No point in testing them on the population and, worse, the ecosystem.

They are waiting to see what happens to us and our agricultural model before they allow it in their markets. Makes sense.

They are also willing to pay more for quality food than we are, so it isn't like their shunning of GMOs is impacting them at all.

>> No.3808800

>>3808792
The risk in consuming GMOs is basically non existant and people worrying about it are just showing their ignorance of science

The risk to the ecosystem actually does have the chance to be significant but thats why most GMOs are designed so they cannot produced offspring on their own (which pisses off people for other reasons)

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>>3807115
>If you say anything disrespectful about the Troops, Veterans, God, or Ronald Reagan, or someone's relatives to the wrong people yeah you're gonna be attacked. Possibly with a firearm.
>MFW some liberals actually believe this about the midwest.

>> No.3808821

>>3808800
>The risk to the ecosystem actually does have the chance to be significant but thats why most GMOs are designed so they cannot produced offspring on their own (which pisses off people for other reasons)

It pisses people off because there is always the possibility of GMOs, even so-called "terminator" cultivars, to spread or mate with native flora. Lateral gene transfer, vegetative reproduction, grafting, or just regaining the ability to sexual reproduce. We can not assume that turning off a set of genes is permament.

A good example is transgenic crops that produce Bt-toxins (derived from the bacterium Bacillus thuringiensis). Although in practice it is merely a transgenic biocontrol measure that may reduce pesticide use, it equates to having a field of plants that are toxic to Lepidoptera species, not just pests (e.g.: all or most moths and butterflies). What if such a trait becomes tranferable to native flora?

Also, Bt transgenic crops may increase resistance among pest species, thereby decreasing the efficacy of this biocontrol agent.

The fact is, this is a pretty obvious result that should have been seen before or at least during field trials, but instead the crops were released into the market before proper testing.

Therefore, saying "hurrr you are against science" is wrong. In fact, I am very much for science and progress, which is why I believe proper objective testing is necessary.

Also, I work in an agricultural laboratory and know some pretty interesting examples of why we shouldn't be so quick to push these things out.

>> No.3808836

>>3808821
>It pisses people off because there is always the possibility of GMOs, even so-called "terminator" cultivars, to spread or mate with native flora. Lateral gene transfer, vegetative reproduction, grafting, or just regaining the ability to sexual reproduce. We can not assume that turning off a set of genes is permament
I was referring to the people who think it is a conspiracy by the evil corporations to keep people poor or something like that, not to the actual biological concerns

>> No.3808853

>Going to the midwest
I feel sorry for you, OP. Unless it is Wisconsin, then it'll probably be somewhat like home for you; seems everyone there is pretty much of Germanic background.

>> No.3808854

>>3808853
The upper midwest is a pretty awesome place. The parts near the border with the south kind of suck

>> No.3808884

Jeez. Listen to me, OP. I grew up in the Midwest (Indiana, and southern Indiana at that), went to undergrad in Ohio, did grad school in Nashville, Tennessee, and have lived in NYC for the past four plus years. I am as far removed from the midwest as I could possibly be, but haven't ever forgotten it.

There is no cause for concern. As far as food goes, even many small towns, including one, have health food stores and specialty places that sell organic gluten free whatever the fuck you want. If you want to eat some choice fried food or a metric ton of fast food you will have the opportunity, but it is by no means an imperative.

People will think it is cool that you are German. Practically no one will associate it with WWII, believe me...we had several German exchange students in my hometown, and they were well received. Many Midwesterners pride themselves on German heritage, real or imagined.

You will be in a real salt of the earth area. Some people may be ignorant or backwards, but not all. Most people will be nice, friendly, and accomodating. For food, you will have a dearth of fine dining, but explore the local fare, which may be barbecue or country comfort food. Need not be every meal. Buy local (which can be done there) and cook. Enjoy.

>> No.3808893

>>3808884

Meant "many small towns, including my own"

>> No.3808896

>Live in the Midwest
>Most people eat mixtures of European food at home (Honestly, I was surprised when I learned what my friends at growing up because I came from a Greek family) , and a variety of fast food/restaurants
>Any town of decent size has health food stores because of the "craze"

On a related note, don't be a pussy and don't be a retard... also shoot a bunch of shit before you leave.

>> No.3808904

>>3808774
I would yell at you, but I'm too busy fucking my sister....
Get out of here with that bull shit, the south is a fine place. We've gotten a fuck ton of northeners who have moved down here since the invention of a/c. Most everyone is friendlier than in the north east, you just have t watch out for rednecks and gangbangers.
We have delicious sea food, barbeque, regional crops like peaches etc.

>> No.3808907

>>3808836
Not the same guy, but if they find their strains of copyrighted crop seeds on your fields, even by accident, they can and sometimes will sue the ever loving shit out of you.

>> No.3808922

>>3808907
The can't just search a private field

>> No.3808923

>>3808836
Monsanto is an evil corporation who is pushing small farmers out of business

>> No.3808924

>>3808907
>even by accident, they can and sometimes will sue the ever loving shit out of you
Possession of stolen property is illegal even if you were not the one to steal it

>> No.3808926

>>3808924
So you're siding with the large corporation who use this tactic many times to push farmers out of business?

>> No.3808929

>>3808926
No, i am just trying to think logically rather than with emotion

Is there even one instance of evil monsato putting a little farmer out of business because he accidentally had one of their crops in his field or is this just some scary worst case scenario that might happen if we aren't all paranoid

>> No.3808941

I ordered a large iced coffee at McDonalds when I was in North Dakota last week. I forgot that portion sizes are different in the United States than they are in Canada.

The large iced coffee at McDonalds in the US is 32oz(~946mL). In Canada the large iced coffee is 20oz(~587mL).

The medium in the US is 22 oz (~650mL). They do not offer a small size (at least the McDonalds I was at didn't.)

The Canadian large size would be in between the medium and the small iced coffee in the US.

I think that's fucking insane.

>> No.3808947

>>3808929
http://www.centerforfoodsafety.org/pubs/CFSMOnsantovsFarmerReport1.13.05.pdf
They have sued many people over this issue.

>> No.3808948

>>3808929
Are you serious? Just google for "Monsanto rapeseed lawsuit" or words to that nature, they have done this to hundreds of farmers; the name slips my mind right not but there was a highly notable case in the 1990s where they forced a farmer to destroy his seeds, which he had been saving each year for fifty years.

Monsanto does not need defensive or support, ok? Monsanto does a lot of ethically dubious things in their quest.

>> No.3808950

>>3807027
Fast food anywhere is bad here, if anything, try to make your own food or find alternative healthy restaurants. I fucking hate fast food ever since
I had a road trip from the midwest to the southeast US and had fast food all the way there and back. I had gained 15 lbs in the 2 months that I stayed in NC, my heart felt really uncomfortable and my metabolism was so fucked up. Lost it all and then some, but I will never do that again.

>> No.3808952

>>3808929
I just saw this thread and thought I'd chime in. First, I want to say that I side with Monsanto on a lot of shit: I think the Terminator gene and selling both roundup and roundup-proof corn are strokes of genius. I also don't care when Monsanto puts it in their contract that you can't store seeds or when they push small farmers out of business simply by flooding the market with their superior crop.

That said, I think it's a fucking atrocity that they will sue a farmer who has had his crop cross-pollinated by a nearby Monsanto farm for 'stealing their intellectual property.' That's insane. No other kind of company would ever think of doing this. That's like me striking oil in my backyard and suing you to recover the crude that splashed onto your patio.

>> No.3808953

>>3808952
GMO's are a great thing and will eventually be in a large amount of foods(they kind of already are), but they need to tighten up regulations on how they are made, testing, and control against non GMO organisms.

>> No.3808956

>>3808953
Yeah no fuck that. Until there is a single lick of evidence that GMO's are even a little bad for you I won't be for regulation. The problem is that Monsanto gets to sue a farmer because their GMO corn pollinated his corn and yielded Monsanto proprietary seeds. That's called a third party benefit, and the only thing Monsanto can do about it is engineer a plant that is even more sterile than what they have.

>> No.3808962

>>3808956
Congratulations, you know nothing of how testing is done.

You find out what the worst case scenario is BEFORE it can be a problem.
You regulate BEFORE something bad happens, to prevent it.

"Regulation" is not some kind of horrible boogeyman from the oppressive guvmint, it's something to ensure things are done in an:
1) Ethical
2) Safe
3) Efficient
manner.

Regulation is not a bad thing and doesn't mean restriction.

>> No.3808964

>>3808962
>You find out what the worst case scenario is BEFORE it can be a problem.
Its hard to even study what the outcome could be when we have antiscience crusaders scaring the public away from anything related to gmo

>> No.3808968

Hey OP.

Midwesterner reporting in, grew up in Iowa & moved to South Dakota. Junk food is EVERYWHERE, but so is healthy food. Only two things will be a cause for concern; the availability and the boredom.

While not better for you, junk food is easier to get here. It becomes rather tempting to eat it all the time, despite the health risks as it is plentiful and cheap.

As for the boredom, take it from me; if you aren't an athlete, a bible-thumper or own a decent car THERE IS USUALLY NOTHING TO DO (especially in the smaller towns).

We had a number of foreign exchange students in high school, and the #1 complaint was there was NOTHING to do. Most developed poor eating habits out of pure boredom. I knew a German exchange student who took up drinking Scope as he couldn't have alcohol, and a Mexican foreign exchange student who gained 50 lbs just from eating in front of the tv (darnedest thing, too...she would slurp down a jar of jalapenos in one setting).

So be prepared to get involved in activities, and try to take it easy on the snacks.

>> No.3808969

>>3808964
In a relatively new field with new stuff coming out all the time i feel like adding some safeguards so that way we don't figure out ten years down the line that this new corn product will give you health risks.

>> No.3808981

>>3808969
but knowing the mechanisms by which GMOs work, there really isn't the potential for these phantom health risks in the vast majority of instances

Most GMOs are introducing one gene from something we already consume to another, or increasing how much a particular gene that is already present is expressed

>> No.3808983

>>3808962
Of course regulation means restriction. Red tape kills industry. People who are afraid of GMO's are irrational loons. There is no reason to suspect that the changes they make to the corn genome have ANY adverse effects on us, saying we 'have to be sure' is like mandating a search of every five-year-old's closet just to 'make sure' he's safe from monsters.

>> No.3808984

>>3808962
However, this sort of thinking has had even scientists back boogeyman scare tactics. I remember when I was younger there was a big hubub about irradiated food. There was zero scientific evidence that irradiating the food did anything to to food that could do anything to humans. I remember reading an article about those trying to put a stop to it, and a scientist that was for stopping it basically said opening "well, no, you're right there is no concrete evidence that irradiating food does anything to humans, but that doesnt mean it doesnt, and it doesnt mean that it MIGHT do something terrible in the long run or the future, so why should we take the chance?"

That is basically the same argument most people opposed to GMO foods use today. Just claim that there MIGHT be a catastrophic problem and scare everyone into shutting down any all forms of what you oppose.

>> No.3808987

>>3808984
Careful, we don't know if posting a rational argument on 4chan might have adverse health effects 10 years down the line. WE JUST DON'T KNOW.

>> No.3808988

>>3808981
>introducing a gene from one species into another
>tinker-toy genetics says what?

Maybe you should finish bio before you keep posting.

>> No.3809001

>>3808988
>>introducing a gene from one species into another
what issue do you take with this statement?

>> No.3809062

Midwest where?

The south and the midwest is shitty dude.

>> No.3809096

I'm an Ohiofag and I have to say:

There's a reason that more astronauts are from here than any other state in the country. There's a reason the Wright Brothers built the airplane.

The wanted to get the fuck out.

Hopefully you'll at least be in a city. They're not that bad. But if you're headed to a small town, you might as well fuck yourself. Shit gets pretty small-minded.

>> No.3809135

>>3807038
This
Seriously, how retarded are some people to think that just because you live in America you have to eat shitty food?
We have the most developed agricultural industry in the world along with amazing distribution. Fresh fruits and vegetables year round.
Go to a grocery store you dumb fuck, buy whatever you want.
All OP's post is "Americans sure are fat, aren't they?"

>> No.3809139

So. Much. Stupidity. And. Trolling. In. This. Thread.

>> No.3809162

>>3809135

Actually oil is the most efficient source of energy and all things and all in all a bag of chips is a day's energy for pretty cheap and little effort. Albeit nutritionally incomplete.

I'm not at all surprised that Americans instinctively seek these types of foods at this stage of development.

>> No.3809169

Enjoy your High Fructose Corn Syrup, OP. They put that shit in EVERYTHING.

>> No.3809172

>>3809096
> I'm an Ohiofag and I have to say:

> There's a reason that more astronauts are from here than any other state in the country.

More presidents born there than any other state too. One thing OH has going for it is that it's (sections of it anyways) densely populated. 12 million people there last time I checked. Not a bad statistic considering there are no gigantic cities to throw the numbers off.

> I'm not at all surprised that Americans instinctively seek these types of foods at this stage of development.

Scank, do you ever read back your own posts after you write them? You Canadians should stfu, kick back, and enjoy that free ride America has been giving your since day-1. You asswipes don't have to pay for a proper military (12% of our taxes go to that shit, we could buy a lot of commie healthcare for that kind of money. All you clowns do is take potshots at us. We never say shit about you.

>> No.3809179

>>3809172
>All you clowns do is take potshots at us. We never say shit about you.
You know that's true. Americans generally like Canada. It feels shitty that they can't be bros with us.

Ever look at a population density map of the country? They are all right up against the border. like they are giving the United States a hug.

>> No.3809191
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>>3809062
>The south and the midwest is shitty dude.
anyone comparing the south to the midwest hasn't been to both places, they are not alike

Its basically comes down to an evangelical/normal christian split

>> No.3809194

>>3809169
You realize that he will be allowed to cook for himself right?

>> No.3809195

>>3809096
To be fair, Ohio is just about the worst northern state

>> No.3809203

>>3809191
>friends

>> No.3809205

>>3809203
what?

>> No.3809219

>>3809135
OP here. That's not what I said. I've been to the US, more landwhales but overall very nice people. Now after hearing what my exchange partner said about food and cooking I had a few concerns.
Also I wouldn't take any Michael Moore Movie too serious, I just thought is was a fitting clichée.
I just wanted honest opinions and I think I got some good thoughts in this thread.
Shit, Jimmies rustled.

>> No.3809226

idk, OP. Go make currywurst or something. Or put on your hand-shoes when it's cold.

Okay, I just wanted to say that. Yeah, American sodas (since you're in the midwest, get used to it being called "pop") are bad for you, but you can find healthier stuff. If possible, get Jarritos or Mexican Coca-Cola since those aren't made with high-fructose corn syrup, but cane sugar.

Or tea or something.

>> No.3809275

>>3809226
>since you're in the midwest, get used to it being called "pop"
unless he is close to Wisconsin, or St. Louis, they call it soda there

>> No.3809276

>>3809226
There is no solid evidence that "Mexican" soda is any better for you than normal soda, and the actual difference between them is minimal

>> No.3809284

>>3809276
> Studies by the American Medical Association suggest "it appears unlikely that HFCS contributes more to obesity or other conditions than sucrose", but welcome further independent research on the subject.[14] Further reviews in the clinical literature have disputed the links between HFCS and obesity,[15] diabetes,[16] and metabolic syndrome,[15] and concluded that HFCS is no different from any other sugar in relationship to these diseases.

Yet they still go on about it as if it is some sort of poison. The only problem with HFCS and Sugar is that it is fucking everywhere. I mean they put that shit in ground beef at fast food places.

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>>3809275

>> No.3809296

>>3809290
what the hell is up with the big circle around St. Louis right inbetween the line for Coke and Pop, calling it Soda?

>> No.3809349

>>3808952
>I just saw this thread and thought I'd chime in. First, I want to say that I side with Monsanto on a lot of shit: I think the Terminator gene and selling both roundup and roundup-proof corn are strokes of genius.

The reason you think this is because you do not understand the ramifications of these "products".

People who are ignorant about such issues may easily side with their emotional arguments, but it does not mean they are making informed and critical judgments.

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>>3809296
>mfw I can't find the circle you're talking about

>> No.3809457

>>3807027
That "documentary" was a fucking pile of shit. First of all it wasn't even done right or recorded properly. Also, 'hhhuuuur look if you eat nothing but fast food, it's bad!'

>> No.3809663

Lol, you do realize the USA is like the food capital....of EVERYTHING right? yeah there are tons of fast food places...nobody forces you to eat there, if you have money go to a nice restaurant or BUY YOUR OWN FOOD AND COOK IT.

>> No.3809708

>>3808952

oh GOD, you are so ignorant. Their crops are nowhere near superior. Look what they did in India with their fucking rice. Not only that but cross breeding is an effective way of producing hardy and yielding crops without all this genetic copyright nonsense. Not to mention the fact that they've opened the floodgates for all manner of horrifying genetic experimentation with eukaryotes

>an algae that can consume organic matter for instance...any organic matter...

It's not wise to tamper with genetic code on such a scale, it leads to all sorts of nasty consequences. Not limited to things like industrial espionage and what you already mentioned (sueing farmers simply for having seed splashback from other farmers using their shitty GMO products). Creating a "roundup ready" product increases the likelihood of breeding ever more resistant pests which in turn leads to more toxins fucking up the environment. Not only that but Monsanto is creating a grain monopoly by outbuying and shutting down farmers who don't use their products, which is a fucking nightmare. Decreasing the diversity of any crop is a plague shitstorm waiting to happen.

If you're a troll, 10/10. If you're just ignorant, I pray for the future of humanity.

>> No.3809718

>>3807027

if you're worried because of that movie, you're pretty hopeless

obviously you are not capable of critical thinking

>> No.3809728

>>3809446

Helpful Hint: Anon that made the circle comment doesn't know what a circle actually looks like.

>> No.3809746

>>3809290
wat

I live in MA and I've never heard anyone call it pop. It's soda. Fucking soda.

>> No.3809747

>>3809746
and by MA I mean in the middle of the state where that map indicates it being a "pop" area.

>> No.3809817

>>3809747
Boston area native here. Yeah, not many people say "Pop" or even call it all "Coke", here Though, I have known a few people some years ago to say the said terms. Most likely they have been beaten for it since then.

>> No.3809822

>>3807027
Minnesotan here.
We have a lot more than just greasy fast food here in the midwest. There are plenty of family style restaurants, sandwich shops, and other relatively healthy choices. Nobody is going to be forcing you to eat that greasy shit.

>> No.3809824

The midwest is a big place. Every city, every town offers a choice of food. Seriously, people stereotype too much. If you're going to be living in someone's house it's a random nature that they'll be wealthy or poor, healthy or lazy.

>> No.3809828

>>3809747
No it doesn't.

All of MA with the exception is in the SODA designation.

In Boston, you will find the occasional older person who calls it TONIC.

>> No.3809841

>>3807027
Entire film is sensationalism and hyperbole. We like to do that in America. Reality is food is just as good/bad as it is everywhere else.

>> No.3810042

>>3809708
>Their crops are nowhere near superior
so why do farmers buy them?

>> No.3810059

>>3809708
>Creating a "roundup ready" product increases the likelihood of breeding ever more resistant pests
So we shouldn't kill pests because that might lead to us one day not being able to kill them by that method? That seems counter productive

>> No.3810624

>>3810059
Think about antibiotic overuse and resistance.

It would be better to properly use pesticides to reduce pest/disease to acceptable levels while maintaining their efficacy versus overusing them, have several generations of incredible yield, and then see resistance creep up and basically make a significant management tool obsolete.

>> No.3810938

I wanna go to America for stuff like Wendy's, Five Guys, In-N-Out, Taco Bell and Long John Silver's.

Is this weird?

>> No.3810951

>>3810938
Yes. You know our fast food ain't great. Why do you want to eat it?

>> No.3810959

>>3809001
Probably nothing, he just wanted to sound smart.

>> No.3810961

>>3810042
Because marketing, then once they buy them, lock-in.

>> No.3810964

>>3810938
Wendy's and In-N-Out? Makes perfect sense.

Taco Bell and LJS? What the fuck is wrong with you?

Never had Five Guys, can't say anything about them.

>> No.3810978

>>3810964

Consider that most Non-Americans can't get good Mexican to save their life.

That makes even shitty Mexican look good.