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I really like my local Chinese joint but I can never make any of their recipes. Any time I search for any of them and try to make them at my house they end up terrible. What am I doing wrong?
Also share recipes pls. I'd love to be able to make my own chicken and broccoli or garlic chicken.

>> No.20387808

>>20387794
Msg

>> No.20387812

>>20387794
Need to velvet the meat. Also need a carbon steel wok and a gas range. Plenty of sesame oil and fish sauce.

>> No.20387814

They use somewhat real wok cooking yes even for your general tsos type crap

>> No.20387816

>>20387794
Mega Salt (Gook)

>> No.20387820
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20387820

Sweet and sour sauce:
1 tbsp ketchup
1 tbsp rive vinegar
2 tbsp sugar
1 ts soy sauce
1 ts corn starch
1/4 cup water
dash of garlic powder, ginger
(optional: few drops toasted sesame seed oil)
mix and bring to a boil

>> No.20387826

Not sure. I think Thai and Japanese are easier. At least when you buy the intermediate products.

>>20387814
The wok may have a lot to do with it. But it doesn't that good anyway. Fried rice can be awesome but is it worth it? It's mostly just different.

>> No.20387829

>>20387794
peanut oil, if you deep fry save the used oil and use that to stir fry. Not joking or talking shit the used oil really gives that authentic Chinese flavor

>> No.20387830

>>20387812
I hate having an electric stove so much it's unreal
>>20387814
When I've picked up carryout I've noticed them using woks
>>20387808
Noted

>> No.20387832

>>20387794
It’s actually impossible to recreate at home. You don’t have a restaurant kitchen stove wok or access to the Chinese restaurant suppliers that every single American Chinese restaurant uses. You can make decent imitations but it’s never going to taste the same.

>> No.20387834

>>20387832
Well yeah clearly it's never going to be 100%. I'm not an autismo I'm just trying to get close.

>> No.20387836

>>20387794
put your cooked rice in the fridge overnight to dry out, it fries up without turning to mush

>> No.20387870

>>20387794
>breath of the wok
>5 spice powder
>rice blends
>add sugar to the stirfry
>add baking soda to the marinade

>> No.20387896

>>20387836
i've also made fresh rice and spread it out on a baking sheet and put in the freezer for a little while when i was drunk and wanted fried rice real bad. worked pretty well.

>> No.20388038

>>20387794
MSG and fish sauce. And lots of oil, more than you think you need.
You can also use extra mirin and rice wine vinegar if you can't find MSG. It's not strong enough to be like the real thing, but it's better than nothing.

>> No.20388216 [DELETED] 

>>20387794
No idea but let me suggest that you listen to the Deus Ex Chinatown theme in your earbuds 24/7, even while sleeping, until you look in the mirror one day and you're wearing a coolie hat that you don't even remember buying from Party City.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHQZNNajxOk

>> No.20388731

>>20388038
I'm assuming you can buy MSG at Asian grocery stores?

>> No.20388876

>>20387794
MSG, sugar/hfcs, actual high heat woks (with the burner that looks like a jet engine), different kind of oil than you are using, and lots of it.

>> No.20388884
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This thread is dumb, so what's everyone's favorite Americanized Chinese food?

Me, I go for the chow mein sandwich.

>> No.20389307

>>20388731
you can generally find it at American Grocery stores too, also online

>> No.20389313

>>20387794
mgs, more oil when cooking, and higher heat

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>>20389307
you have spell it out for them anon, we're dealing with people that can't decipher the difference between garlic powder and garlic salt

>> No.20389517

>>20387794
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qURmdmgCCOI
This video is worth watching. I basically do what he does but I probably add more soy sauce and a little more salt and some siracha. Don't be afraid to add a bit more oil. a little too much is better than not enough. It takes more than most people tend to think

>> No.20389542

>>20389517
He does a lot of Chinese takeout recipes, Ive made his fried rice, lo mein recipes. It comes down to using light and dark soy sauce instead of kikoman. Also using shaoxing cooking wine makes a difference.

>> No.20389940

>>20389517
This looks killer, I will probably be cooking it next week. Thank you.

>> No.20390278

>>20389940
I had to amazon the sauces since my small town had nothing chinese. well worth getting everything he suggests though. making sure you have everything already prepped before cooking is pretty crucial since it all cooks so fast. for sure have extra light soy sauce, oil and salt ready for flavoring and texture. I use peanut oil but I do add a little butter near the end since that is what my local place uses and it's good. The first time I made it, it was better than anything else I had tried personally but not right. Made it a little saltier the second time but i didn't use enough oil. The third time and after it's been nearly as good as my favorite takeout.
The chicken is way better and it has way more flavor overall, but I I suspect I would get better results with a gas burner as well. Buying a flat bottomed carbon steel wok helped, but I feel like my electric stove isn't heating the sides of the wok enough or something. I haven't perfected using higher heat like my takeout place does without burning things

>> No.20390356

>>20389494
What are you, the seasoning police?

>> No.20390427

>>20389517
I consider that guy the authority on American Chinese Take Out cuisine.

>> No.20390435

And use even more MSG to make it taste more authentic.

>> No.20390526
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Might as well ask this question while the thread is up, many Chinese American recipes specifically call for white pepper. I've always used a bag of mixed tri-color peppercorns that I keep in the freezer. Does it make a difference?

>> No.20390531

>>20390526
I tried putting black pepper instead of white pepper in hot and sour soup.
Shit kinda sucked.

>> No.20390539

>>20387794
Woks of Life
Made with Lau
Jason Farmer
>>20390526
Yes they sell it and don't freeze your pepper it will extract the oil and fuck with it

>> No.20390594

>>20390539
>>20390531
Damn it. Thanks.

>> No.20390605

>>20390594
Yeah it tastes hotter in the pepper sense and milder in the bitter sense
White people grocery stores carry it, if it's not in the regular spice section check the Mexican spice section where everything's sold in bags
Way cheaper and typically as good or higher quality
Badia saffron is like $5 not $20 and it's packaged so you can see that it's real and not some fake shit

>> No.20390637

>>20390605
Thanks for the advice. I also just found out there's an Asian grocery store on the outskirts of my flyover town so I might also try going there and see what's available.

>> No.20390658

>>20387830
get a canister burner. wok and gas flame is a must for chinese cooking

>> No.20390679

>>20387812
>Need to velvet the meat.
This is the real trick to it. It really does make a world of difference.

>> No.20390683

>>20387794
I have opposite experience. I find the restaurant food inedible slop but am constantly lured by the menu description. So I shop for ingredients based on recipes online, make myself, every time home made is better . Try to cook Anon,

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>>20387794
>What am I doing wrong?
Try unfolding the box to make a plate.
Also, add monosodium glutamate and lots of Lawry's seasoning salt. The salt is the seasoning. It is not seasoned.

>> No.20390988

I only care about the fried rice. Would it be weird to only order one thing of fried rice?

>> No.20390991

>>20390988
Nah, I chiefly care about the mein (Lo or Chow).

>> No.20391095

>>20387794
Asian people are just as cool as Jewish people, I would like to eat Asian food just as much as Jewish food in hell. You're in hell. You're a monkey.

>> No.20391824

>>20387820
Just wanna say, this slaps. I made it. Gonna make a bigger batch later.

>> No.20391842

>>20389517
i hate this faggot so mcuh. i don’t even know why

>> No.20393077

>>20390728
this is fucking bullshit. just because you can unfold a box and eat out of it doesn't mean that's it's function. they use a geometry that's one uncut piece and fold it like that because otherwise it would leak. the fact that these boxes also have adhesive on them to keep them folded also BTFO this reddit lie. There is ZERO proof beyond clickbait shit that this is a real function of the box and not just some retards unfolding and eating off it and making click bait.

>> No.20393860

>>20387794
The red.sauce can be purchased. It goeth on the ribs. U can't recreate because.it is pure dye. But paint it on Pork and Yan Can Cook

>> No.20393902

>>20387812
No fish sauce in general tso and lo mein.

>> No.20393914

>>20388038
American chinese food does not use fish sauce.

>> No.20393999

>>20387794
https://www.youtube.com/@TheArtOfCooking

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>>20387794
>>20393999

>> No.20394016

>>20390728
>youre supposed to make things needlessly messier and more complicated

Why would anyone do this? Lol

>> No.20394044

>>20389517
Jesus Christ I swear every Chinese food video I watch just makes me want to pay for the takeout instead.

>> No.20395266

>>20394044
>Spend 2 days to cure your parboiled rice in the fridge & marinate your chicken before spending 45 minutes prepping your veg, sauce and cooking the damn thing
>vs spending 3 bucks at your local chinese takeout for the exact same thing
Yeah no thanks. Chinese food is one of those things like buffalo wings that isn't worth investing the time in making at home when you can just buy it for cheaper than the ingredients necessary from a restaurant/

>> No.20395271

>>20390728
those metal hooks that come with the boxes are great for fishing hair clogs out of a drain

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>>20387794
don't cook, just eat. get cold sesame noodles.

>> No.20395884

>>20395266
you are retarded, it's nowhere that hard to prep and cook your own takeout chinese at home

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>>20387832
Speak for yourself, I do make chink good at home and I do have a fuck off hot jet burner for it.

>> No.20395921

>>20387794
>electric wok
>msg
>soy sauce
>asian girlfriend

>> No.20396345

>>20395884
Bullshit and you know it. To cook anything resembling takeout you have to go out of your way to get special ingredients, special cookware, and often have to learn entirely new cooking techniques. >>20395266 is absolutely right. When you figure in all the extra shit you have to buy and all the time it takes to do, you are saving money and getting a better product by just going to the store. I cook all kinds of food and I can tell you without a doubt that Chinese is extremely prep heavy. The only thing I can think of that’s involves more prep is if you want to get into barbeque to the point you’re making fucking timetables for your marinades.

>> No.20396606 [DELETED] 

>>20396345
This, there's no point in learning to cook "authentic" Chinese takeaway except for bragging rights/being some kind of culinary completionist.
It's dirt cheap in restaurants because it relies on an economy of scale that's not possible to replicate in a household kitchen unless you cook chink shit everyday for every meal. It's pretty labour intensive to make anything more complicated than fried rice or noodles, like dumplings from scratch which is why even restaurants just sell bagged frozen ones.
The only "ethnic" fast food worth learning to cook is Indian because you can very easily make a restaurant quality curry from scratch with the ingredients in your kitchen for a couple bucks per serving and it's quite easy and also healthy.

>> No.20397284

>>20390526
yes it makes a difference. white pepper has a taste very unlike normal peppercorns youd use. its also much stronger. a little goes a long way

>> No.20397303

>>20391824
>slaps
Is it too late to abort Gen Z?

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>>20393077
You're supposed to unfold the box to turn it into a plate

>> No.20397347

But the box is like a bowl when it's folded. Get some chopsticks and eat out of the box.

>> No.20397688

>>20387812
I don't understand the carbon steel wok meme. I have one, incredibly expensive one at that, fuckin hate it and never use it. My regular ol wok is incredibly reliable through and through