/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>20240242
cheap
efficient (good veg oil can be reused for months)
healthier than the alternatives

>>20240242
Peanut oil is really great for cooking popcorn

>>20240242
for me, it's canola oil

>>20240242
The only oil you should ever be using is extra virgin olive oil. Maybe almond oil.

>>20240265
Those aren't cooking oils, they're finishing oils.

why do i feel like everyone in this thread is stupid except me

>>20240269
Because you're insane

>>20240276
elaborate, doctor

>>20240242
not the heckin' SEED oils bro.
youre gonna die from that.
two more weeks.

>>20240242
>chugging an entire bottle of this and running down the street to eat your neighbor alive with your bare hands and beat his wife to death
some of my best memories

>verification not required

>>20240278
This is a good one, Manufacture of Madness by Szasz. I got turned onto that one when I was in grade school.

There is no robust data suggesting saturated fat causes atherosclerosis:
https://academic.oup.com/eurjpc/article-abstract/29/18/2312/6691821
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31841151/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2824152/
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0735109720356874
https://bmjopen.bmj.com/content/4/4/e004487
What causes atherosclerosis is, instead, oxidized LDL cholesterol, which you get by eating oxidized fats, meaning the polyunsaturated fats (especially linoleic acid) found in common vegetable oils such as soybean oil which are literally rancid by the time you purchase them due to the high heat used in the process of making them:
https://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/17/health/a-lifelong-fight-against-trans-fat.html
https://www.vanderbilt.edu/olli/class-materials/Nutrition_Immunity_Spr21_Session4.pdf
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQmqVVmMB3k
Saturated fat was the primary fat source for humans for thousands of years, yet heart disease was almost unheard of until humans started eating vegetable oils.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9794145/
>Thus, from 1961 on, the AHA recommended that all men (and subsequently women) decrease their consumption of saturated fat, replacing these fats whenever possible with polyunsaturated vegetable oils, as the most promising measure of protection against heart disease.
>The 1961 American Heart Association advice to limit saturated fat is arguably the single-most influential nutrition policy ever published, as it came to be adopted first by the U.S. government, as official policy for all Americans, in 1980, and then by governments around the world as well as the World Health Organization. It is worth noting that the AHA had a significant conflict of interest, since in 1948, it had received $1.7 million, or about $20 million in today's dollars, from Procter & Gamble (P&G), the makers of Crisco oil. This donation was transformative for the AHA, propelling what was a small group into a national organization.

https://openheart.bmj.com/content/5/2/e000898
>OxLDL is thought to play an important role in atherosclerosis formation; however, it is the oxidised linoleic acid contained in LDL that leads to harmful OXLAMs, which induces atherosclerosis and CHD. Thus, reducing the amount of dietary linoleic acid, mainly from industrial vegetable/seed oils, will reduce the amount of linoleic acid in LDL and likely reduce oxLDL as well as the risk for coronary heart disease.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3315351/
>Generally, polyunsaturated fatty acids favor the oxidation of LDL while monounsaturated fatty acids are less conducive to its formation
Most seed oils are heated to 500F for 30 minutes during the process of making them. This renders them literally rancid, as polyunsaturated fat is very unstable and prone to oxidation. They then undergo a deodorizing process so the consumer cannot tell they are rancid.
Rancid oil is literally, factually and objectively toxic.

https://www.diabetesresearchclinicalpractice.com/article/S0168-8227(22)00854-3/fulltext
>oxLDL/LDL-C ratio was positively associated with severity of coronary atherosclerosis (OR 2.03, 95% CI 1.31–3.14, p < 0.01)
>oxLDL/LDL-C ratio is significantly associated with the severity of coronary atherosclerosis
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0024320504000530
>At 48 ± 2 d of age, the aorta phospholipid of piglets from porcine fed hydrogenated fat contained a significantly higher concentration of linoleic acid
>These changes in composition in piglets from porcine fed hydrogenated fat indicate that trans fat inhibits the metabolic conversion of linoleic acid to arachidonic acid and to other n-6 PUFA.
So, trans fat causes atherosclerosis by causing linoleic acid to build up in arteries. Linoleic acid is the stuff in stuff like soybean oil which is very easily oxidized.
tl;dr: Linoleic acid = clogged arteries.
Oils high in linoleic acid = soybean, corn, cottonseed, grape seed, hemp seed, non-high-oleic safflower oil, non-high-oleic sunflower oil.
Olive oil is high in oleic acid and low in linoleic acid, so it's fairly healthy.
The most stable oils, meaning the least prone to oxidation, are saturated fats which are solid at room temperature.
Clogged arteries are caused by oxidized LDL cholesterol. LDL cholesterol levels are associated with clogged arteries only because LDL cholesterol levels are also associated with oxidized LDL cholesterol levels. Saturated fat has been wrongly demonized because it is associated with LDL cholesterol levels, but it is not associated with oxidized LDL cholesterol levels.
Linoleic acid is the main culprit in terms of oxidized LDL cholesterol levels and clogging the west's arteries. Linoleic acid is the reason heart disease rates have increased in lockstep with the use of vegetable oils.

https://www.bmj.com/content/346/bmj.e8707
When trans fat+saturated fat is replaced with high omega-6 fat in the human diet, the result is an increase in heart disease mortality.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/0005276070901311
Greater amounts of linoleic acid oxidation products are found within human atherosclerotic plaques and the degree of oxidation determines the severity of atherosclerosis.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0009308497000959
Greater amounts of linoleic acid oxidation products are found in LDL and plasma of human patients with atherosclerosis.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0009308497000959
The oxidation of linoleic acid in LDL leads to conjugated dienes (malondialdehyde and 4-hydroxynonenal), which covalently bind to apoB altering its structure creating oxidised LDL. oxLDL is no longer recognised by the LDL receptors on the liver but by scavenger receptors on macrophages causing monocyte infiltration into the subendothelium, foam cell formation and eventual atherosclerosis in humans.
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PII0140-6736(92)91129-V/fulltext
Susceptibility to LDL oxidation is associated with severity of coronary atherosclerosis in humans.

>>20240286
>read this entire book
i'm busy eatin BEANS

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>>20240307
I aint reading that shit nigga.

>>20240338
Don't worry I put it in a picture so now you don't need to read it.

>>20240338
tl;dr: Saturated fat doesn't clog arteries - the linoleic acid in vegetable oils does. The makers of Crisco paid off the American Heart Association to spread the idea that saturated fat clogs arteries and that it's healthy to switch from animal fats to vegetable oils.

>>20240242
man I fucking love getting the oil just about smoking hot and tossing some noodre right in for a quick stir fry. never overdo it with soy sauce etc, you want to taste that smokey hot oil in the noodre it's fucking amazing

Do your fucking job janny

>its the seed oils, not me stuffing my face with 6000 kcal processed slob for dinner