/ck/ - Food & Cooking

if by 'nox you mean a victorinox knife, yes that's exactly what i use

I use that knife with a shapton 1k kuromaku

>>20227064
I don't care about the brand, but if I see you using that abomination to sharpen any of my knives I'm gonna slap your soy face with a pizza peel.

>>20227064
I don't even have a real kitchen knife

No I got my knife at the dollar store and I don't sharpen it

If I don't have an emotional attachment to my knife what's the problem with using one of those or one of these? If it works who cares?

>>20227584
>If it works

>>20227064
I don't even sharpen
It doesn't cut? Just add more force.

>>20227721
You will fuck up and cut yourself inevitably

>>20227094
>>20227138
>>20227711
Based.

>>20227064
Diamond plates first, then ceramic pull through as a final step, nice and slow and gentle so the blade doesn't hop.

Okay, so what should I actually get if I'm a novice knife sharpener with a dull knife?

>>20228166
Pic related is expensive but is completely idiot proof, easy to use, and is guaranteed to put a sharp edge on even a cheap dull knife.

Then teach yourself how to use a honing steel and use it every goddamn time you take out your knife in order to keep it sharp.

>>20227064
>>20228166
You could use pic related which is easy and effective. I have the Lansky and it's nice.
Idahone and A.G. Russell also makes these, but they're hard to get outside of USA.

>>20227064
(You)

>>20227064
no, are you a cooklet that uses a $100+ knife thinking it will make up for your shit skills?

>>20227584
No see everything has to be as difficult as possible or it's not trad and redpilled and some asexual loser on the internet will mumble that you're soy.

>>20227064
I just pay a sharpener once every six months or so

>>20227067
What does the NSF mean?

>>20228874
Are you projecting your own shit knife skills, anon?

>>20227584
based
$5-20 knife
$5 sharpener
literally what's the worst that can happen?

>>20228166

>>20228912
this is the way to go, and is what alton recommends. it's also like.. $5-10 a knife and they can do it for you in literal minutes

if you don't care for social interaction though, my recommendation is
>>20227584
one of these
and then a 1000 grit waterstone to put your final edge on

Fucking amateurs. I only use blades that I've knapped myself from flint, chert or obsidian it was good enough for 30x great grandpa Booga, it's good enough for me

My dad has a pedal grinding wheel in his garage. The knives he brings back lose half their metal and look like they've been through apocalypse. But they're sharp so who cares

>>20227584
Works okay for a bit, but then it ruins the edge and you have to reprofile the knife.

>>20229001
Get an aggressive sharpener, throw out your $10 Walmart knife once every other decade when it's too worn, have a a knife that's sharper than some scam $300 chef knife. Don't give a single fuck about how it's treated.

>>20229016
Alton is a twat

Dont get a whetstone if you're at all lazy
I got a whetstone
Now I sharpen my knives once a year because I can't be fucked to do it
Just get whichever sharpener is the easiest and quickest so you actually sharpen your knives
Who gives a fuck

I use whetstones to sharpen my knife and yes I use a victorinox rose wood handle chef knife my bro bought me

>>20231097
No, lazy bones jones. You get a carbon steel knife, so it only takes a couple minutes to get your knife in tip top condition. Make sure you get a splash and go stone so you don't have to wait for your stone to soak! You can just splash(water) and then go!!

>>20230918
How would your 10 dollar walshart scam knife be sharper than a handmade($300+) chef's knife, and why does it anger

>>20227064
My parakeetlet sharpens stuff for me with it's beak.

>>20231283
How much he charge you for that?

>>20231307
Just some birdseed and some water.

There's nothing overly complicated to some birdseed and water.

>getting filtered by a fucking rock

>>20227064
I use one all the time. I have whet stones too but that's very time consuming. The hand sharpeners do work.

>>20231278
Tbf, it only takes a few minutes to get an SG2 or VG-10 knife razor sharp if you keep up with it

>>20231317
Based and reasonable wages pilled.

>>20231353
It's insane how so many people seem to think that rubbing a piece of metal on a rock is this insurmountable challenge, so they fervently defend a purchase of some inefficient or inferior contraption.

>>20231958
Yep. Keeping up with sharpening makes it a very short and easy task. If you're good you can use a lot of pressure on a 1.5kish stone and then remove the bevel with a 3k-5k stone, put a microbevel on in 30 seconds, and it will be razor sharp. 3-5 minutes is all it takes.

>>20231353
that rock literally took down entire armies

>>20227928
Skill issue

>>20231958
There's a learning curve to those.
My first VG-10 knife taught me the hard way that I was putting way too much pressure on the knife when using a whetstone.
Kept chipping the edge until I learned that basically you should have a feather touch.

Behold; there exists something that will make both parties happy

>>20227064
I don't have any expensive knives, and i'm not sexually attached to my kitchen knives, unlike OP, so yes, i do use a pull through sharpener because i don't give a shit if it's shortens the life of a knife
>B-but your knife will be useless in 2 years!!
Thenn I'll go to the shop and buy a new one for 20 bucks, big fucking deal

>>20227575
this, just buy a new one

>>20234843
Noiooooooo you gotta literally buy +$300 nipnat knoifes with +10 whetstones and spend literally +200 hours learning sharpening literally. You literally can't make a meal otherwise and you're just literally poor.
Haha literally cope literally cocklet literally knifelet

That's pretty much exactly the cooklet that I am, dear OP.

Why are whetstones more popular than rods (abrasive, not honing)? Rod seems like an all-around smarter design, letting gravity do the work while you focus on the angle, no danger of dishing out, longer lifespan since you got 360 surface as opposed to one

>>20227064
thou i do use nox

>>20235724
The motion is not as precise or efficient. You can't really pur heavy pressure on a rod like you can with a stone as well. They'll work fine for gentle touch ups, but that's about it.

>>20235991
put heavy pressure on my rod every morning and evening

>>20235994
Sounds like you've got the motion down. No more excuses for having a dull knife.

>inexpensive
>lightweight
>decently sharp right off the bat
>available at every asian grocery or online

Let me guess, you need more?

>>20227064
Exactly. Food that's been prepared with a quality knife that's been hand-sharpened on a quality whetstone tastes SO MUCH BETTER.

>I can't taste the knife

Tastelets. A proper cut is seasoning unto itself.

>>20227064
No I'm a convicted child sex offender with a Shun and one of those Russian knife sharpener jigs.

>>20236173
Now be a good boy and list the cons of kiwi brand knives as well.

Captcha: HHHH

>>20228976
Not Safe For-

>>20227064
I prefer something like >>20228197, but I also sharpen more than kitchen knives. Whetstones didn't feel too hard when I tried it, though most people seem to struggle. Pic related is how one of my chef friends sharpen though lol.

>>20230731
As long as you use a consistent pressure and speed you won't fuck up the profile.

>>20228976
Need speed for

>>20238808
Need for speed, anon

>>20227064
I have a $40 knife and a pull through sharpener. Works fine.

>>20238165
honing is such a meme

>>20239020
skill issue

>>20238165
Get outta here homo

I work in a kitchen at a grocery store, all we have is a honing steel and the owner doesn't pay to have a knife guy come out and sharpen. If I want to sharpen just enough that I wont cut my fingers off but not spend all my wagie bucks what's the best thing to get? A water stone?

>>20239166
Based owner forcing the wagies to invest personal monnies in his business lmao

>>20239166
Water stone will die in a month if we're talking industrial level daily use. Plus they are time consuming to set-up. Get a 300-500 diamond plate, or convince your faggot ass boss to invest in a sharpening system if he wants his sandwiches done on time. If the knives aren't yours just get the shittiest pullthrough sharpener and murder the knives at your leisure.

>>20227064
got a 'nox and a $40 grit1000/6000 stone. works for me.

Why are stones wide instead of thick? This is a pure grift, the size is irrelevant, picrelated would be enough to sharpen anything. They intentionally fluff up the width of the stones to command a higher price AND to make them dish out. It's planned obsolescence.

>>20239198
They're not my knives so I'm getting the pull through. I just don't want to fuck my fingers off when a 20 year old knife slips off an onion.

>>20239331
this is a cultural thing. i guess the wide 3" became the "norm" after the war when mutts started importing japanese artificial stones.
A hundred years ago when people relied on them, benchstones were a lot smaller. Here on the old continent what most cabinet makers had was something in the region of 2x6 or 3x5, and the local makers still sell in these weird sizes.

>>20239331
Try a shapton 1.5k and come back. If you really can't stand dishing get a shitty norton oil stone.

>>20227928
I used a ceramic knife for 6 years and this never happened to me, by the end i might as well have been using a saw lol

Let me guess, you need more?