/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>1927
It's been the end of times since they adapted the plot from the first Sonic Adventure game.

In all likelihood, yes.

>>1929
Oh Boco, say it ain't so ;-;

I hope the final issue of Sonic: Mega Drive gets released before it ends, it's literally the only Sonic comic I care about.

>>1930

-Still no subscriptions available
-No solicits through June
-the last issue of Mega Drive has been removed from PreviewsWorld and labelled 'cancelled'
-Ian Flynn is writing Jughead now

Writing is on the wall, it seems.

>>1932
T-There's gotta be hope

Even if it meant just cutting back on Sonic Universe and JUST having the main Sonic book

>>1933

If its getting cancelled for the reason people think it is, then Sega is pulling the license 100%. Nothing left.

RIP Sonic Comics
For over a decade you've given me countless hours of entertainment and stories. Maybe you might get picked up by another publisher that isn't complete shit or it is the end days for Sonic in comics. All I can say is thank you Sonic and fuck Ken Penders

>>1932
>Ian Flynn is writing Jughead now
Well, my evening is ruined.

>>1936
"Duckface" Henderson was the first person they tapped to do art for the book, and having Flynn brought on as the new writer is where you draw the line?

>>1936
>>1937
the other writer is waid

>>1938
Quod erat demonstrandum.

>>1939

Gesundheit.

>>1932
Ian claims that he intends to write both simultaneously.

Last update that Boco forgot to include: Tracy Yardley! has said that SEGA & Archie are talking.

>>1927
Probably.

I kind of don't care for some reason, I've fallen like dozen of issues behind with Archie Sonic at this point because I didn't think series recuperated after loss of characters Ian worked on for years, and he couldn't quite fill the void for me.

I think addition of characters like Honey is nice and all, but I am honestly always more excited about returning characters. Like Kukku.

The problem is that it's been like 40 issues of just mainline series and I still don't feel like void has been filled.

>>1927
Good chances, but ah well. If it happens, it happens, and we can't do anything about it. If it doesn't, then that'll be nice. No use agonizing over it for now.

>>1927
Well, it's been a good(?) run, I remember seeing the comic for the first time in a BX on base around the time Sonic Adventure came out. Anyone got a favorite moment in the story? Mine would usually be the cool downs after a long arc, that and the "Sonic the Fighters" adaptation.

>>1932
>-Ian Flynn is writing Jughead now
For fuck's sake stop listing this as evidence, every comic writer who wants to earn a half decent living has to write multiple books. Flynn himself was writing four not that long ago.

>>1945
I was always aware of the comic from back when I got Sonic Mega Collection as a little kid and saw those covers/pages in the bonus sections.

I didn't get into reading it until like 3 or more years ago when /co/ did the first Sonic Marathon.

>>1931
That's already been cancelled.

>>1940
I'd tell you to shut up, Boco, but I legit lol'd.

It'll be worth flushing Archie down the toilet and having SEGA sell the rights to a Sonic comic to another publisher just to get Ken Penders completely out the picture.

I don't want him to have a single fingernail involved in Sonic. Having him fight for "his" characters only to have them banished to another dimension then retconned out of existence entirely THEN having the comic that they originally appeared no longer exist is a fitting end. Plus the reprints will stop and he wont get a penny in royalties any more.

>>1945
>Sonic the Fighters
Best arc from the reboot, hands down.

>>1950
They already don't do reprints with his material anymore.

>>1952

He's still entitled to royalties for any reprints of issues that feature his characters.

>>1952

They can if they want, they just haven't lately. Course, they haven't reprinted ANYTHING lately, so...

>>1954
Boco you willfully ignorant moron, they stopped reprinting anything with past authors' materials long before this hiatus.

>>1955
I'm pretty sure I saw a few reprints with Scourge post reboot.

>>1956
The reprints with past author stories and materials happened after the reboot, but only by about a year or two.

>>1957

Then reprints just stopped in general, right?

Yes, it's finally coming to an end.

Once again, Archie & SEGA are currently in talks. So chances are, they're probably trying to work something out.

But I guess we can keep saying "IT'S OVER," or something.

>>1958
No, they reprinted Flynn material that didn't cover preboot material. Those were slow because Archie was broke as fuck.

>>1960
>>1934
Let's not forget that SEGA, particularly with Sonic, isn't in THAT great of a position with fans either

Would they really risk the insane amount of bad PR they'd get from pulling the license and ending a 20+ year run?

>>1960
honestly archie has fucked up once too many. they could very be still talking to other publishers at the same time to keep the leagacy and numbering alive. disney comics have shifted publishers multiple times because of fuck ups and kept the numbering too. i don't see why sega can't do it with their sonic comic.

>>1959
So shall we commence the ending of Archie's Sonic with one last go on "The Ride"?

>>1962
The comic has been losing subscribers since the reboot which is bullshit, since the comic was practically unreadable until the reboot and Archie Sonic fans are a very small subset of Sonic fans in general.

Anyway, if another Sonic comic were to take Archie Sonic's place, what kind of tone or style should they go for and who should work on it? I'd like to see a humor comic that takes advantage of Sonic's western cartoon inspirations. Something with the wackiness and pacing of AoStH with the self-awareness of Sonic Boom with the appreciation for the franchise in general that Ian Flynn has.

>>1962

It hurts knowing that they do nothing with the franchise outside of throwing mud at the wall hoping something will stick.

It annoys me to no end knowing that even though Sega owns the all the reboot characters, they won't touch them if the comic gets canned because I have no fucking clue. I think they're allergic to non human, non playable characters that aren't the main cast.

>>1965

>The comic has been losing subscribers since the reboot

Doesn't help that after that hiatus last year alot of comic shops didn't bother to stock it anymore.

I havent read any of this since sonicscanf stopped posting them. Where's a good place to catch up?

>>1968
Why'd they stop? Law reasons?

>>1969
they said it was "out of respect for Ian Flynn and his work" because they tried and failed to raise volunteer money to pay archie back somehow

>>1968
ReadComicsOnline

>>1927
it's happening

Anon, I think it's time we stopped denying the fact the comic just can't be saved at this point. The reboot was a bandaid that ultimately didn't hold.

Besides, Sally and the Freedom Fighters have lost their purpose. Thanks to Sega introducing its own cast, they're completely arbitrary, only enjoyed by those who hold nostalgia over their original selves.

It's a shame for it to end this way, but let's be honest, the series we all cared about died with The Pendering. And the book had been shit for a while before that (thanks Kaminski).

What legit breaks my heart is we may not get the final part of Mega Drive, the best Sonic comic Archie has ever produced.

>>1927
Who knows at this point? I'm hesitant to say it is, since I would've thought we would've hear word by now if it was definitive.

My best guess is that the Fulop lawsuit decides the fate, but I dunno.

>>1975
I question if any of these writers realize what they're doing will earn them the permanent scorn of the entire Sonic community and the taunting of the entire comics community.

Honestly Im amazed it even lasted this long

>>1976
Well, it's harder for people to direct their scorn and taunts at him. As far as I know, he has no real presence on the internet.

Penders has consistently made an ass of himself and has come off as completely unlikable on social media. The way he continues to carry himself will direct most of the hate away from Fulop anyway, even if his lawsuit is the final nail in the coffin.

The only thing I care about is Mega Drive being cancelled before it's conclusion.

>>1979
there was an issue of the main comic coming up with Honey in Studiopolis Zone. I wish it could have at least ended there.

So, actually, how does the main story end so far?

>>1981
After the Shattered World Crisis, the book started a flashback arc showing the ArchieSonic version of the classic games.

The CD adaptation was the last issue.

>>1982
Interesting, so if it ends here the comic will have ended on a redo of issue 25 that was made to commemorate Sonic's 25th anniversary

I stopped reading them years ago.

>>1980
fuck

I want this

>>1927
I hope, if anyone was going to get the Sonic License, it'd be either IDW or DC. They'd both care about the comic at the very least, and regardless of company, you'd get crossovers with other properties since DC and IDW love crossing over, whether its TMNT or The Flash or Scooby-Doo.

>>1974
>the series we all cared about died with The Pendering

Speak for yourself. I've been enjoying the reboot more than the preboot stuff.

Wait, so is the cancellation of the final part of Mega Drive really confirmed? I don't even read this comic, but I was getting all the Mega Drive issues because they're just that good. I'm actually rather upset about the Archie cancellation if only because of this.

>>1987
It hasn't been confirmed, but it's not looking good.

>>1987
It was listed as cancelled on previewsworld's cancellations and a few places like Comixology have taken the page down saying it's been cancelled by publisher.

>>1951
>not Eggman's Dozen
Close second, though!

but it need a conclusion.

>>1974
>What legit breaks my heart is we may not get the final part of Mega Drive
It's a curse

>>1992
French comic was awesome.

>>1950
trust me when I say this, Penders and his special breed of autism will find a way much like the dinosaurs of jurassic park.

I honestly would not be surprised if 20 years after he dies a company tries to reprint the entire series only to trigger Kens resurrection from the grave just to cause another shitstorm

Dont worry anons, even if the comic is cancelled, he will always live on in our hearts

>>1941
I doubt Ian can be upfront if Sonic is ending. He may be forced to say anything that doesn't confirm Sonic is over.

>>1996
Like "Lost Hedgehog Tales are totally going to be released"?

>>1995
Get a room, snivelyfag.

>>1964
As soon as Mania drops, we could try. /v/ wanted one as well. I suggested a trial board where that could take place.

>>1992
What's this called?

>>1964
Let's get something straight for the record here.

/co/ 2013 was "The Sonic Marathon"
/v/ 2014 was "The Ride"
2017 is ______

They are not all "rides."

>>2001
How about "Storytime?"
'Cause there's a lot to be told.

What are the chances of IDW grabbing it and using their relationship with TellTale to get a "choose your own adventure" bullshit game to go with it?

>>2002
I'm not too picky, but what will really make the name stick is the new "conductor" (name also pending) insists upon

>>1959
You little bastard.

>>2002
Most comic dumps are referred to as storytimes already.

>>1932

I haven't seen a Sonic comic dumped in some time. Were they at least still going strong before this?

>>1985
>DC
>Looney Tunes
>Sonic can finally fucking race Road Runner, Speedy, and Flash

The world isn't ready

>>1990
>Thunderfag
Breezie's much easier on the eyes. And she's rich.

>>1982
>>1983
I suppose that if the comic really is ending here, then this is probably the best possible place for it to stop while it's not in the middle of any story arc to be left in the air forever. (Besides Mega Drive #3 and a Sonic 3 adaptation)

When you look at how the prereboot continuity ended, it could be a lot fucking worse.

>>2009
She's a bit of a hard sell as "Breezie" though. Not a shred of her original character is present.

>>1935
> thank you for taking a video game with a vague premise and attempting to lard drama and characters crying into it
> thank you for "drink his hate-paste"
> thank you for tails babysitter doujin
> thank you for Chris-Chan and subsequently kiwifarms and Chris' vagina
> thank you for Ken Penders
> thank you for the only fandom that hasn't let go harder than Samurai Jack's
> thank you for fans who insist that Sega licensed comics keep Archie alive despite them being the poorest sellers
> thank you for that baby that fell and broke into robot pieces
> thank you for keeping Jaleel White from knocking over liquor stores

But seriously it also gave us Tails Gets Trolled so that pretty much makes up for the rest

>>2010
Would have been nice to at least end with the 4th part of the story arc.

>>2007
Sort of? The Unleashed arc was wrapped up with satisfaction, notably that bird guy completely fucking annihilating the freedom fighters. But if the comic ends now we'll never see anything done with the other Egg Bosses, which is pretty much unforgivable and I'll boycott Mania on release for whatever it's worth.

>>1932
>the last issue of Mega Drive has been removed from PreviewsWorld and labelled 'cancelled'
This hurts the most. I know getting proper closure on the main storyline wasn't gonna happen, but at least we could have had this.

>>2014
>I'll boycott Mania on release for whatever it's worth.
Don't do that, guy. The return of Genesis flavored Sonic should be a thing to celebrate, and needs support if Sega is ever going to see the importance of gameplay over their other recent flavorless dreck. The comics ending really isn't Taxman's team's fault.

>>2016
I don't know, I never really liked Flying Battery and Green Hill. If it were Hydrocity or Marble Gardens, Hilltop or Starlight though, day fucking 1.

>>2017
Green Hill is probably a Sega mandate. They can't not reference it.

Anyways, the real draw is hopefully going to be the new levels.

>>1932
>the last issue of Mega Drive has been removed from PreviewsWorld and labelled 'cancelled'
Fuck. FUCK.

>>1932
>the last issue of Mega Drive has been removed from PreviewsWorld and labelled 'cancelled'
Can we stop lying?
https://previewsworld.com/Catalog/JAN171337

>Finally finish setting up the third universe after the third reboot
>Cancelled

The absolute STATE of this man right now

>>2020
Could it have changed? I didn't see it if and when it was labeled "canceled."

>>2014
>I'll boycott Mania on release for whatever it's worth
Really makes you think if Sega is deliberately keeping everyone in suspense with regards to the Comic's future in order to not get any bad press that can affect the anticipation for Mania.

If the hammer is officially dropped after Mania debuts, then that'd be the smoking gun.

>>2022
There's a news story from Sonic Stadium.com saying that it was cancelled, but no confirmation beyond that. It says it was listed as "cancelled" in the april order form on PreviewsWorld, but I'm looking through it right now and can find no such listing. There just aren't any listings for Sonic at all.

Hate to use the buzzword, but... fake news.

>>2021
Maybe he should have just written fun stuff instead of deep lore.

>>2023
Sega absolutely doesn't care about that, but comic companies never give 'press' about company negotiations, and they wouldn't start with ones theyre having trouble with.

>>2005

If you people had any competence then this would be a good thing.

>>2025
Honestly this

I think Ian took this a little too seriously, there's nothing wrong with doing a two-year setting in order to get Sonic to go around the world. It's just so much of that time felt plodding, the pace would shift up and down and I don't know, I never felt I really did learn that much about 'Sonic's World'.

Honestly, he's best writing short arcs like Eggman's Dozen and Champions. Plus he could do with better comedy rather than 'hey, remember that?'

>>2028
Less comics is not a good thing. It could LEAD to good things. But for all we know Sega might back out of comics completely after all the shit Archie put them through.

>>2029
I blame the obvious editing interference more than I blame the writing, although it clearly had troubles too. The ten-page stories benefited nobody, and the constant events only made things worse. The Chaos Emerald hunt taking SO LONG and having Unleashed's actual plot only take a couple issues is absolutely on him though, he prioritized "establish the world" over telling fun stories and it showed. But then the fans constantly demanded this, so even on that front, there's blame to go around.

>>1962
The Sonic fanbase has always been pretty fragmented between 2D Sonic fans, Pre-06 3D Sonic fans, post-06 3D Sonic fans, and comic fans, and there's less overlap than you might think. I highly doubt 90% of the people in any of the non-comic fanbases give a shit

>>2031
The ten page stories are more of a matter of the writers than the idea, sadly. 10 pages per story is pretty ideal for a series like Sonic and a lot of the early stories worked as 11/12 pagers with a bunch of fluff and mediocre layouts.

>>2033
10 pages per story is practically nothing unless you're doing paneling and story formatting like the first issues, (extremely simple and dense just to get very simply concepts across) which wouldn't be much of an improvement. It'd just be a different sort of choked.

>>91169217
Generations was not "Genesis flavored." Not really. It was just "Nostalgia flavored." They haven't once gotten the physics correct since the days of Genesis, excluding Taxman's own ports. The physics are the most important element of recapturing what made the Genesis games such strong platformers.

>>1932
Where did it all go wrong? No seriously the sonic comics have a history of convoluted background bullshit so where did it al wrong?

>>2036
This has more to do with the higher ups at Archie being shit than it does the Sonic license being bad luck or having shitty writers or anything like that.

>>2036
The question you want to be asking is, "At what point did the readers stop CARING about everything going wrong?"

>>2037
Jesus how bad is Archie's management team anyways?

>>91169217
I agree that Sega is whoring out "classic Sonic" to the point of being unpalatable. But true, actual Genesis style gameplay has not been tried yet. Their design philosophy actually hasn't changed much prior to this. Even if they keep saying "LOOK GUYS, SONIC! AND HE'S JUST LIKE YOU REMEMBER HIM!" Most of their attempts are pretty disingenuous.

>>2020
>>2024
https://previewsworld.com/Article/94330-Cancellations
Look at the list for this month.

>>2039
They actually lost the papers that could've easily proven that Penders wouldn't have had any rights to the characters he created.

>>2042
They had a photocopy which Penders said was fake.

>>2043
A competent legal team probably would have pressed him on this. Back him into a corner over his lies. But Archie's legal representation was just awful.

>>2044
There is also the chance that he genuinely didn't sign them, Archie's management was even worse when he was working there.

At least it ended with best girl.

>>2046
>We didn't see Katella

I wanted to see her and TB go at it

>>2045
I suppose that's a distinct possibility.

>>2014
>I'll boycott Mania on release for whatever it's worth
It'll be worth nothing. Sega needs to know that 1) fans are actually boycotting for an unambiguous cause, and 2) they'll actually buy the games once their demands are met.

But, it likely won't matter anyway, because of what >>2016 already said, and the intersection of comic fans/ game fans is unlikely to be large enough to affect anything.

>>2034
You realize the early issues are only seem cramped because the writers would not let the characters ever shut the fuck up, right? It's the same sort of panel layout as the modern issues, right down to the number of panels on average, just with more dialogue and less fancy angles.

And, let's be real damn frank. You don't NEED more than ten pages unless you're doing complex action scenes, and most of Ian's stories don't take advantage of the kinetic nature of Sonic to begin with.

Seriously, if you doubt the power of just a few pages, go read Dragon Ball or something. It has 14 page chapters that make everything Tracey's ever done look like a joke. It's very, very possible, just more difficult to balance with certain writers.

>>1927
When Knuckles helped the Chaotix find that red Chaos Emerald in the mines with Chip, did he ever remind Sally and the King to pay them for that?

>>2012
They didn't make Team Dark or Silver

But Comic Team Dark and Comic Silver are pure souls

>>2012
>Shitting on Samurai Jack because it's the hot new meme.

ebin bro
Samurai Jack doesn't have a "fandom" of any scale worth mentioning, just a lot of people who watched it back in the day who are happy to see a finale, you curmudgeon.

>>2053
He's saying that Samurai Jack fans are the only fans more dedicated/determined to not give up hope moreso than Sonic fans

>>2054
Well that hope payed off, so props for that I guess

>>2054
People have hoped for less plausible things.

>>2056
MegaMan fans at least got 9 and 10, Sonic fans have to wait for good games in general

>>2057
Well, Sonic had Generations. I probably would have been done with Sonic, personally, if that hadn't happened.

>>1965

I have no interest in a comic where "events" keep interrupting everything.

>>1927
From what I've read, it seems to be looking that way. The book pretty much died to me when it rebooted and a lot of what I liked went away. I tried a few times to get into the reboot, but I just don't like it and miss what was lost too much.

I feel bad for those who still like the book seeing it end and I'll still be sad on some level to see it all end, but I won't be as sad as I was years ago.

>The comic for years has SonicxSally as the OTP
>Possible final issue features Sonic & Amy

Pottery.

>>2057
So Rush Adventure, Secret Rings and Rival series were bad? Those weren't too long from Colors. Mega Man has so many spin-offs, they can't even be compared to Sonic.

>>2062
Well, some would say Secret Rings was bad. But saying that Sonic fans have had to wait years for a good game isn't too much of a lie, since it's been 4 years since the last major Sonic game, & the last game (Lost World) wasn't as praised as say, Generations.

How do we kill Knuckles?

Think ian will show up for the last marathon?

>>2063
>Well, some would say Secret Rings was bad.
They're wrong. It wasn't perfect, but it was playable. All the titles I mentioned are playable at the very least compared to that shitshow released for the 15th.

>>2064
Make him chuckle.

>>2062
>Secret Rings
It's fucking dogshit, I don't want to tilt the fucking wiimote towards me in order to make Sonic move backwards

Rush games were fine, never played the two Rivals games.

>>2065
Probably not. /v/ kinda ruined that when they brought bullshit from The Ride to his forums when he was trying to downplay being here for plausible deniability

>>2069
He still shows up in /sthg/ from time to time, at least.

>>2068
What do you expect? It was released when the Wii was new and exciting. And compared to that other title at the time, it was a godsend.

So if Sega pulls the liscense who'd you guys want to publish the next comic?

>>2072
IDW

>>2072

IDW is the most logical choice.

>>2069
What was the issue with him being here? Would it have come off as him indirectly advocating reading the comics online illegally?

>>2072
Marvel!

>>2075
Partially that and in case he mentioned some shit that he shouldn't and it got back to Archie

>>2073
>>2074
Yeah IDW would the best choice since they're liscensed books are usually the best examples of decent liscensed comics

>>1933
There's no way to survive this, YOU IDIOT!

>>2062
>Rush Adventure
Mediocre at best
>Secret Rings
Shit controls and no ability to turn, 6/10
>Rivals
Actually garbage

>Mega Man has so many spin-offs
And unlike Sonic almost all of them range from great to serviceable. The only one with more shit games than good ones was X, of all things.

>>2072
Nobody. They'll play it safe.

>>2080
So you didn't play those titles, I see. A lot of you fail to realize how bad 2006 was, and just how much those titles fared in comparison. Honorable mention to Unleashed. Another flawed, yet playable game.

>>2072
IDW is the most obvious candidate, and to be perfectly honest I feel they'd make a better than comic than Archie could (Mega Drive notwithstanding).

The only bummer is I could see it being a ROM situation, where IDW has the license to produce new comics but the old material is too much of a legal quagmire to reprint.

>>2082
>A lot of you fail to realize how bad 2006 was
That doesn't make Secret Rings fucking good.

What if someone played Secret Rings without even playing 06? Would that still be your excuse for why they should like it? Just because 06 is worse?

>>2082
>So you didn't play those titles, I see.
Motherfucker I am not going into my garage and pulling out my old games to take pics right now, but believe me, I bought Secret Rings on LAUNCH because I was DESPERATE for a game other than TP for my Wii. I had fun with it, but its controls really weren't good and the fact that twisting the remote only made him strafe instead of turn disappointed me immensely.

>A lot of you fail to realize how bad 2006 was, and just how much those titles fared in comparison.
What the absolute fuck does that have to do with anything? I can say RA is mediocre and Rings was barely fun whether 06 is a 10/10 or the worst game to ever come out. Are you retarded or something?

>>2069
What exactly did they do?

>>2086
One of the multiple people who read these threads while being inflicted with the dread ailment known only as "fucking autism" tweeted him directly about the illegal filesharing going on and acknowledging that he was there and answering questions during said filesharing.

IE, in public view of his bosses, "HEY THANKS FOR TALKING TO US WHILE WE ILLEGALLY READ YOUR COMICS BRO!" And like another anon said, some stupid fuck did it in his own goddamn forum, too.

>>1932
>-Still no subscriptions available
Because it's on hiatus until SEGA and Archie sort out their shit

>-No solicits through June
Duh, because it's on hiatus

>-the last issue of Mega Drive has been removed from PreviewsWorld and labelled 'cancelled'
A third party site saying something is cancelled is as compelling as Comixollogy saying the book is dated for Dec 31st, it means nothing

>-Ian Flynn is writing Jughead now
Now you're truly reaching for reasons for it to be cancelled.

Shut the fuck up boco, nothing has changed, we know you want it cancelled you miserable shit

Did I do that?

>>1927
what issue do I start? is it 252 thats the reboot?

>>2088

>People taking Boco seriously

Not sure if I should laugh or kill myself, to be perfectly frank.

>>2090
>what issue do I start?
#001

>>1998
fuck you faggot

>>2090
#1

People will tell you to skip this or that, but you should form your own opinions.

>>2091
>>2094
okay but was 252 the reboot or not?

>>2094
i've read the early issues and they read like Chris Chan's comic with Sally and Bunny going to the mall.

>>2095
yeah

>>2095
You don't need to know because it doesn't matter and if you cared enough you'd google it.

>>2088
I'm gonna laugh super hard when Boco ends up being right.

>>2090
1 or 252.

>>2096
You're full of shit, m8.

>>2096
>Mad Magazine allumni make a tgrowback book to Gold and Silver Age funny animal books with Bronze Age techniques.
>lol whats this chris chan shit xD

I remember when /co/ gave a fuck about comics.

>>2088
Previewsworld is a Diamond website. Diamond are the ones that distribute it to comic shops and they put out that Previews catalog every month to vendors.

Both them, comixology and a couple other stores have said it's been cancelled by publisher.

>>2096
chris never wrote about the freedom fighters

>>2081
The ol' "post Super Mario Bros movie Nintendo" move, eh?

I don't see Sega going the same route.

>>2093
Snively sucks, get taste.

>>2106
Suck my fucking chode faggot

>>2107

>>2108

>>2109
Gadzooks, hoisted by my petard!

>>2096
>Nobody respects the classics, not even fanboys

>>2012
Don't forget David Gonterman!

>>2112
I...I don't wanna know.

>>2112
>Sally doesn't love Sonic! Really!
What a complaint to end on. That shit was even shipped hard in SatAM.

>>2113
>>2112
I do, gimme the gossip. What's the deal with Gonterman?

>>1950
why do peple hate him havent read any of the comics

>>2116
1. Bad writer.
2. Smug jerk.
3. Caused a legal kerfuffle that endangered people's jobs and lead to the comics getting rebooted.
4. Is a compulsive liar.
5. Not very nice, would not hug.

>>2012
> thank you for "drink his hate-paste"
Have a couple edited panels really affected you that negatively? You don't think the original comic really said that, do you?

>>2117

Don't forget 'terrrible artist'.

>>2117
any of the comics worth a read

>>2116
>>2117
That's kind of grazing the surface. Some of the bigger issues are:
>Doesn't like Sonic to the point where he is proud to never have played a single game
>used his position to write about his own shitty characters and tried to force Sonic out of the spotlight

>>2119
he isnt an artist

>>2115
https://allthetropes.org/wiki/David_Gonterman
http://www.commuterbarnacle.com/gonterman/

>>2122
You can say that again

>>2112
Is Sally in hell?

>>2122

Didn't he design the Lara Su Chronicles stuff?

>>2012
>thank you for that baby that fell and broke into robot pieces
What does this refer to?

>>2126
he isnt an artist

>>2127

a gif from Sonic Underground

>>2121
Oh yeah, and
>Believes Sonic's success in the 90's is completely due to him
>not the other way around

>>1935
If I ever meet Ken Penders IRL I'll stab him. I hope Riverdale fails too.

>>1950
If Archie cancels the comic then there won't be another one.

>>2132

Sadly it isn't. But then, its CW, so they have a very small threshold for "failure".

>>2120
In general? Yes.
The ones HE wrote? Not really. The cream of the crop are mediocre and derivative even if you're being kind. Some of them are outright plagiarized.

If you ever bother to read the comics, just...if you see his name as writer for a story from #16 onward, skip it. They're so boring and make the plot and continuity more confusing than they need to be, you're better off not knowing.

>>2132
>going to jail over sanic

Chris chan go away

>>2132
He really doesn't deserve to be stabbed.
Being a jerk isn't grounds for getting stabbed, and making him a martyr is just going to make things worse.

>>2132
Don't martyr the fuck. Bad things will come of this no matter what happens.

1. If he dies, people will actually try to romanticize his work.
2. If he lives, he's just going to sue you and you'll be personally responsible for keeping him afloat.

>>2003
000%. Sega hates the Sonic comic. They hate anything that deals with Sonic and his cast as characters.

From now on you're getting nothing but Hello Kitty tie in merchandise of Sega Approved Characters.

>>2139
at least TGT is canon then

>>2001
>>2002
Regardless of what we call it, would such a thing be allowed to exist on this board? The moderation of /co/ in 2014 is not the moderation of /co/ in the current year.

>>2136
Talk shit get hit.

Talk bad get stabbed

>>2141
Same with /v/. They let it fly once, but amid the assurances it wouldn't become a "forever" kind of thing. Moderation IS a bit more lax over there though.

/vg/ is not an option because nobody fucking goes there.

>>2141
>>2143
This is the board for comics, pretty sure the mods are not gonna flip their shit. /v/ was only shaky at first because the comics aren't videogames

>>2119
Mark this on your calander anons, Boco said something agreeable for once.

I lost interest after the reboot anyway. The arcs were so formulaic
1. Sonic / sonic's friend(s) goes to new country
2. Sonic / Sonic's friend(s) meets mobian freedom fighters who all have same face and are waifu bait
3. Sonic / Sonic's friend(s) beats eggman's regional boss in the area

It sucked no wonder it got canceled.

At least pender's garbage was so insane that you would never know what would happen next, Knuckles' Dad and the microwave is some of the greatest unintentional humor ever. Reboot was just boring bad.

The only Archie characters of Merit are Bunnie and Nicole.

They are both vapid and one-note enough to fit right in with Sega's cast.

>>2142
Wow anon you're so cool, Penders should fear the wrath of your katana.

>>2146
Way to ignore Champions & every post-reboot Universe arc.

>>2144
True, but it being a secondary media of a video game franchise, it is allowed on /v/. Regardless of which board they go with, there's going to be some retards who tell it to fuck off to the other.

There's different advantages to either board, really.

/co/ is:
>More chill (both in posting rate and general attitude)
>Seems to have way more drawfags
And yet...
>Rabid moderators like to delete anything because fuzzy critter people is somehow kind of a no-no on a cartoons board

Meanwhile on /v/:
>Way more foot traffic
>threads are way livelier than "The Sonic Marathon"
But...
>Quality of posters plummets

>>2147
snively is the only good archie character

>>2151
Snively isn't an archie character.

>>2152
DICk and cookie jar dont exist anymore

>>2151
I swear to god don't you ever reply to me again with such a tarshy post.

>>2153
What did he mean by this?

>>2149
>muh champions
Waifu bait: the arc.

The chaotix arc was this exact formula in universe too.

>>2154
Fuck you faggot

>>2156
>It introduces female characters, so it's clearly waifu bait & nothing else!

Can you make it any less obvious you're a shitposter?

>>2158
>It introduces female SONIC characters, so it's clearly waifu bait & nothing else!
Fixed
The Sonic series has never had a good female character except for the Biolizard

>>2120
Read the initial Gallagher run for a laugh, then skip #16-159. Read everything after #160, including Sonic Universe. And Mega Man.

>>2159
Biolizard a shit, you hear me? SHIT

>>2159
>The Sonic series has never had a good female character except for the Biolizard
That biolizard booty, though, sweet lord

>>2161
you're a fucking cunt

>>2162
and so are you

>>2158
Yes because Honey the Reject character and mammoth mogul with tits have contributed so much to the story. Clearly the world would be so much different without them.

>>2160
>Read everything after #160, including Sonic Universe.
ESPECIALLY Sonic Universe. That era of SU comics were the some of the best shit the series produced.

>>2165
Silver Saga was some GOAT-ass stuff.

>>2159
IM GONNA BE DESPERATE

>>2160
>Citing Gallagher and not DeCesare
>Skipping stories like #20 and its kooky ghost antics, #23 which is literally the start of Antoine and Bunnie's romance, the fun Ancient Watchers story in 35, the Uncle Chuck Saga, MECHA MADNESS, etc.

Shut the fuck up.

>>2166
Great SU arcs:
>Silver's Dark Enerjack arc
>Treasure Team Tango
>Tails' Adventure
>Scourge: Lockdown

>>2168

I didn't really remember which issues were which, but you're totally right, #20 is really good.

>>2169
Bad SU Arcs
>Knuckles Returns
>Mobius ksfskfjls Years Later

Good SU Arcs
>Literally Everything Else

>>2169
Best arc is Antoine becoming and Alpha male, banging Bunnie and pissing off her fans

>>2169
Really anything involving the Battle Bird Armada is gold.

>>2172
He may have been a shallow 1-note character in SatAM, but I always liked 'Twan for some reason.

>>2169
I also loved Shattered, just for the interaction between Knuckles & Amy. Also, the Chaotix arc, was great too & I enjoyed Spark of Life.

>>2170
A good rule of thumb is that the funny strips ran from 1-40. Sure, you'll miss a few like Angelo's last inventory story in 45 and a couple scattered Gallagher stories afterwards, but if you need guidelines that's the best you're gonna get.

>>2171
Yeah, but I REALLY REALLY like those 4. Sonic Universe is generally some of the most fun arcs in the comic though.

>>2174
The only time Ant was funny in SatAM is when based Snively tortured him by fucking up french food

>>2164
>Honey the Reject character

Thats the world first "search deviantart for your favorite character then add 'the hedgehog'" show some respect.

>mammoth mogul

Come on now this guy was literally furry Vandal Savage and was a Penders #1 jobber to everyone, EVERYONE. The Best thing he ever did was put himself on the bus, and he got outdone doing that by the dog guy who fucked off permanently during that same arc. Breezie's biggest flaw is that she a replacement and didn't have good set up considering her introduction to the comic. But every new post reboot character suffers from that.

>>2179
Mogul wasn't a Penders character, fyi. Hence why he jobbed so fucking much.

>>2178
I'd have to rewatch more episodes before I could agree with that sentiment. But I do remember that being a funny scene.

>>2084
I'm saying that Sonic having one legit bad game (Two if we include that disaster Genesis port on GBA) doesn't mean there were bad games entirely through that period until Colors.

>>2085
I brought it on launch, too. It wasn't as bad as people make it out to be. Does it show its age? Yeah. Did it do what it was supposed to do at the time? Yes.

>>1964
Well, it has to end first.

>>2059

fucking this.

there is no fucking closure on anything, it's like i'm watching a wrestling show.

as soon as we get to the climax we get fucking blue-balled by some other villain hijacking the story and turning THAT into another multi-parter.

at least during the dark ages a story finished when it was supposed to.

>The last fucking issue of Mega Drive got cancelled
Why could I not have this one last good thing. God dammit.

>>2076

>>2090
>>2095
I started with Genesis at 226. That's a better start.

>>2147

Bunnie is boring AF

>MAH ARMS AN LEGS, DEAH
>AH CAN'T STAND THIS

>>2188
But she's hot.

>>2189

well yea but then /co/ fucks anything that moves. so i don't really see your point.

Here's the legal case
https://dockets.justia.com/docket/new-york/nysdce/7:2016cv06109/461066

won't be able to get much info though as there was a motion made to lock any information about the case to be public. If you have an account though by being a part of the case in Southern New York, you can see all the goings on. It does say that it'll be tried by a jury though.

>>2180
At least Mogul got a good ending. Just saying "fuck it, I'll outlive you all" was pretty good way to end his part in the comic while leaving him open to future plots.

God I hate Penders for killing him and Scourge off though.

>>1943
>I am honestly always more excited about returning characters. Like Kukku
i wanted to see more of the bba ;_;

>>2188

>They are both vapid and one-note enough to fit right in with Sega's cast.

I had no idea that all of this was going on behind the scenes of a damned Sonic comic.

>>2021
Can somebody set us up with some Punished Flynn, cause at this point if the comic is cancelled for realsies I think he might be pissed enough to just go "Fuck it! I'll make my own furry video game themed comic". You know just go full on Big Boss.
inb4 "More like going Full Ken Penders"
No but I mean actually doing it and not just pretending you're gonna do.

>>2195
Sonic autism knows no boundary

>>1928
Doing something, and then existing for 20 years after it is hardly "end times"

>>1932

>-the last issue of Mega Drive has been removed from PreviewsWorld and labelled 'cancelled'

Please no

On the plus side, now we get to make up our own canon as to what happens with everyone.

Cassia degenerates to the point where she's just a head "playing" nothing but VR

>>1932
>-Ian Flynn is writing Jughead now
This is no longer a future worth fighting for.

>>2082
Just because wet, drippy shit is worst than a solid block of shit, doesn't mean you still aren't handling shit.

I can't speak for the other two, but Secret Rings is grade A crap. Half its gimmick is making you unlock better controls and playing nothing like a sonic game. If sonic wasn't painted on this title, it'd be shovelware quality.

>>2072
Titan Comics -- the level of attention they give Doctor Who as a licensed book is incredible.

>>1974
I legit thought that thumbnail was of the True and Honest Electric Pokemon Hedgehog for a few seconds.

>>2118

>>2200
Already done in Mobius something years later with a white echid'nya, whatever's his name.

>>2204
Anon pls

>>2092
>>2094
>not Issue #0
Fucking casuals.

Sonicscanf still carry Sonic comics? I remember hearing they took down all thier comics out of "respect" or something. I haven't really found anywhere else to read since then.

>>2209
ReadComicOnline.

I don't know why I even care about this malignant franchise anymore. SEGA is literally incapable of not hurting their fans. To compensate for Mania they have to kill the only part that's been consistently good for the past decade.

I should've just become a Mariodrone.

So what the fuck is going on? Does anyone know anything?

>>2212
Just waitin on the official word for something we know is coming. It's a solemn time in these threads.

>>2211
In all fairness, SEGA did tell Archie they didn't want anymore legal BS.

>>2212
No one really knows. Only update is that SEGA & Archie are talking. They could be trying to come to a deal, or something.

>>2212
Only good things I'm sure.

>>2213
They wouldn't be fucking around like this if there was hope. We're just waiting for the coroner to pronounce it as dead.

>>2214
>In all fairness, SEGA did tell Archie they didn't want anymore legal BS.

Such bullshit, Sonic is the longest running video game comic or all time yet SEGA pretends it doesn't exist. Like it's a liability or some shit.

It's time for them to acknowledge their fanbase in the west, seeing how their nonexistent fanbase in the east has been nothing but a letdown. Though if they put Sally in the next game I'll forgive them and I don't even like Sally.

>>2164
>breezie = mammoth mogul with tits
I can see where someone might make that distinction, but you literally have to be looking solely at the surface level to come to that conclusion. They're both villainous business-people that play the long game, but that's about where their similarities end.

Mogul was a dude who was self-absorbed through his own immortality, only to be stopped by what he considered to be a "balancing force" in the form of the Freedom Fighters and the Chaos force. The nigga never actually cared about anything aside from exerting his dominance over the world because I'm gonna outlive all of you anyway, so why the hell not? Mogul's a man about sticking to his ideals, as screwed up as they might be, and forcing them down everyone else's throats.

Breezie, on the other hand, doesn't give a damn about ideals or hardline morality. Her goal in building a media empire is solely in service of improving her own self-image. She's the ultimate corporate conglomerate who's willing to throw her morals away if it means gaining a bigger audience.

e.g., Mogul's conquest is based on asserting himself because he's so great. Breezie's conquest is getting everyone's attention to prove that she's great.

>>2217
Breezie is Mogul without the baggage from the retard era.

Maybe Archie is losing the rights and a different comic publisher is getting them?

pls no

>>2216
A) SEGA isn't pretending it doesn't exist. It's just that they don't want to deal with the legal nonsense Penders brought, which is why they (IIRC) own everything made post-reboot.

>Though if they put Sally in the next game I'll forgive them and I don't even like Sally.

Won't happen, man. SEGA's made it clear (as recent as a month or two ago in fact) that they want to keep the games & comics separate.

>>2219
It's possible. Chances are, after Archie got into legal shit with Fulop, SEGA just said "fuck this" & is planning on pulling the license & they're talking because Archie wants to try & keep it.

>>2221
B) Won't happen, man.*

>>2211
Mania should be the only thing on your radar as a Sonic fan. We need good games to be made, not some middle-tier storytelling. If Sonic '06 were a regular occurrence, you'd have something to hold on to. As it stands, Colors, Lost World and Generations are a step in the right direction. Stop being melodramatic.

As a Sonic fan, I'm ecstatic over Mania. This could be the next step to getting the games back on track.

>>2223
I barely liked them on release. &Knuckles was terrible compared to 3.

>>2223
Well, Mania & Forces. Also, the Boom cartoon & the comics if they ever come back.

>>2224
>I barely liked them on release
So you don't like the games, yet cry about the comic being cancelled. That's dangerous. The games come first. If the games flop, everything else falls. If the comics are really done, so be it. Let the series get back into good form and then we can try another comic without the bullshit from Archie.

>>2138
Instead just go to his booth
>oh sweet I love sonic comics even the dark age ones
>dark age is penders.

Make him know your a fan and his comics was trash.

>>2226
>If the games flop, everything else falls

That's a lie and you know it. I love 1 2 and 3

>>2228
Sonic the Hedgehog is a video game series. The comics are based off the games (And I use that term loosely). If we don't get anymore games, we don't get anymore comics. Use your head.

>>2226
>If the games flop, everything else falls
>>2229
>If we don't get anymore games, we don't get anymore comics

Firstly, you act as though one game flopping is going to be the end of Sonic. After all the shit he's been through, I don't think so. You act as though Sonic is the only thing Sega is making money on.

Secondly, the games have been flopping for years and the comics are still going. So yeah.

I'm surprised less people are talking about it. Maybe /v/ will flip their shit instead.

>>2231
More people have been talking about it in places like /sthg/ is why.

>>2227
I'd probably settle for watching from afar as NO ONE goes to his booth. With that garish Lara-Su or whatever standie he has in front, it's pretty much guaranteed to be pretty desolate.

>>2231
Keep in mind, this has been going on for a couple months now.

>>1932
>the last issue of Mega Drive has been removed from PreviewsWorld and labelled 'cancelled'
is there at least a chance it will be uploaded online?

>>2235
I don't think so. They could get in hot water for that. Though an artist could potentially post a page or two as examples of their work. Assuming they began work on it before it was canned.

>>2069
>>2075
>>2087

Now, to be fair, a lot of these Archie guys bring this shit upon themselves.

>>2237
They stick their necks out for sure. But Ian and the others did a cool thing by being here and sharing the experience and talking with us. It's just too bad anons can't be cool about it and realize they shouldn't blab all fucking over about what happened like it couldn't bite them in the ass.

>>2235
Probably not. I do think it'll release in some fashion, whether the situation is worked out with Archie, SEGA goes to a new publisher, or possibly releases it themselves.

>>91195537
Sally's sense of responsibility offset Sonic's allergy to it. You can hate bossy females if that's your pet peeve, but that doesn't mean it wasn't an understandable formula in this case.

>>2223
>Mania should be the only thing on your radar as a Sonic fan.

>>2241
What do we even know about Forces? I certainly haven't heard anything to excite me.

>>2241
Not him but

>Wisps
>3rd gameplay style we know nothing about yet

Plenty of reasons to be skeptical about Forces for now.

>>2242
It's a sequel to Generations in 60FPS. I've heard everything I need to hear.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Zm0FvEn5CU

>>2243
From what's been shown of gameplay, the wisps are only there to divorce the boost meter from rings, like they did in Sonic Colors.

Which is fine with me, honestly. Boosting in Unleashed and Generations was ridiculously OP.

>>2242
Long story short

>Eggman's won
>There's an Egg Army in the game
>Sonic, Tails, Knuckles, Amy & The Chaotix are gonna be in the game (although Sonic will be the only one amongst them that'll be playable)
>Wisps will be back
>Boost is back
>The 3rd gameplay style has yet to be revealed as SEGA's apparently keeping it a secret

>>2223
Lost World was garbage

>>2244
They straight up said it "wasn't another Generations." If they just meant "we're not calling it that" then that was a little misleading.

>>2246
Oh & so far, it looks like Wisps will be how you Boost, instead of you just collecting rings to do it, like in Unleashed & Generations.

>>2248
Only similarities between the two games (so far) is Classic Sonic & Boost. I guarantee if Classic Sonic wasn't there, people wouldn't be calling it "Generations 2."

>>2216
>Though if they put Sally in the next game I'll forgive them and I don't even like Sally

See this? This is why everyone is having such a blast pointing at Sonic fans and laughing mad.

>>2246
This is split between "could be good news/ meh news/ bad news."

>There's an Egg Army in the game
There's always SOME kind of robot army. If this isn't done creatively it may as well be egg robos/E-series/Egg Pawns all over again.

>(although Sonic will be the only one amongst them that'll be playable)
There's gotta be a compromise. I know it's the norm to say "I hate sonic friend gameplay!" but I do not give a shit if Sonic's friends show up if all they are is a voice over a radio. Generations at least utilized them a little in certain stages, if not in the most fleshed-out, thoughtful manner.

>Wisps will be back
>Boost is back
Blech

>The 3rd gameplay style has yet to be revealed as SEGA's apparently keeping it a secret
I'll reserve judgment I suppose.

>>1927
it seems so,sadly,i really liked the sonic comics,being reading them for more than ten years,too bad,they were close to the 300 too

>>2251
Personally I don't mind Boost being back as it's fun to play, but the two biggest disappointments to me are the inclusion of Classic Sonic & Sonic's friends not being playable. Outside of that, everything else about Forces sounds good.

>>2250
I'm pretty sure it's more for the fact Sonic games are notoriously shitty at their worst, and finding the results of image searches on Deviantart.

>>2253
No friends hits pretty hard though. How do you justify calling a game "Forces" if you keep everyone who isn't Sonic out of the fight?

>>2255
Apparently, SEGA said that "the theme of Forces is teamwork & the forces of good vs. the forces of evil." How the fuck can you live up to that with two playable characters (that's just a younger & older version of the same character) I don't know, but I guess we'll see. This better be the last time we Classic Sonic in the 3D games, I know that much.

>Boom will most likely have a third season while the comics are long dead

>>2257
Have you even watched it? The show is good.

The only bad thing about Boom is the games.

>>2257
>will most likely have a third season

Unless its doing monstrously well overseas, then no way in Hell.

>>2246
>Sonic, Tails, Knuckles, Amy & The Chaotix are gonna be in the game (although Sonic will be the only one amongst them that'll be playable)
Sega really needs to stop being so afraid of making other characters playable. They made it work before, they can do it again

>>2260
According to Aaron Webber, SEGA "wants to get Sonic's main gameplay right, before adding in other characters."

>>2257
>>2258
It's doubtful. The show's writing is on-point but unless it goes to a network that gives a shit about it, Boomerang is going to be its death.

>>2261
>Werehog
>Classic Sonic
>Wisps

With all these fucking gimmicks it really seems like it defeats the purpose.

I'd honestly be fine if we at least started seeing them in the 2D games again. There's no way Sonic Mania WON'T be a success, so I can definitely see them getting Taxman to make another project for them.

>>2263
My guess is that when they add the characters back, it'll be done 3&K style, where they'll have similar gameplay to Sonic's. But they still haven't decided what gameplay they'll stick with.

As for the gimmicks they've added since well, Sonic Team has never been the smartest game developers.

>>2129
Always happy this happened.

>>2263
>classic Sonic
>gimmick
You might as well call the boost a gimmick you fucking fag. Hell, why not call Sonic in general a gimmick since we're throwing the word around.

>>2266
You seem upset.

>>1927
Sonic Megadrive was one of the best Sonic Comic ever, I could even read it in Jaleel's voice.

>We will never see him again
It isn't fair ;_;

>>1927
God I hope not, I've read half this shit. And there's so much of it that I'm afraid half might as well fucking mean none

>>2230
I said games, as in the entire series. If Sonic doesn't get good games, there's a chance of the franchise dying. And guess what: The games still sell regardless of quality. The point is that this is a chance for the games to put Sonic back in a golden age. And considering that Sonic is the only big IP they have (The others they focus on aren't as big), I'd say Sonic dying means the ultimate end of them.

>>2261

They've been building the boost gameplay for over 4 games now and the best thing that came out of it was Seaside Hill Act 2 in Generations but the same game had garbage lows like Crisis City act 2 and Planet Wisp act 2. They don't seem to be fixing problems with what little we've seen in Forces.

>The boost is way to integral to the gameplay meaning that controlling Sonic at any time he isn't a speeding bullet is dodgy.
>This fucks most of the platforming which generally sucks. It's what people are describing as 'blocky' and does not really factor in sloped level geometry. The homing attack is the worst jump extender in the world when not locked on.
>2D sections of stages are entirely a cop out design crutch from designing full 3D spaces to run in.
>The level design relies way too much on railroading Sonic via generic stage gimmicks and linear hallways. ie: speed up pads all over, red trick rings to force movement in the air, random unfitting zip lines, and entire sections of three rails over a death pit.

Hell they even diverged into making Super Sonic's Lost Galaxy where they deliberately crafted a new gameplay style and control scheme to deal with some of the above problems. And then they designed their stages in ways that didn't use any of their changes to fix any of the fucking problems.

>>2272
Eh, we'll see. SEGA themselves say that the gameplay we saw at SXSW probably won't be the same as the final version.

>>2266
Having Classic Sonic in the 3D games is a gimmick, though.

>>91200718
Hence why I said the games still sell regardless of quality. But I don't blame them for wanting to take some effort to make the games good again. I forgot about Sammy, another reason they could fuck up so much (I mentioned them in a previous thread even).

The point I'm making is the comics ending isn't the end of the world. Mania shows they're making an effort to try to get back on track. Sammy's track record with their own games aren't anything to talk of either.

>>2260
>They made it work before
When?

>>2269
He was the coolest of all the Sonics.

>>2238
It's fine if you know the rules and don't make a fag of yourself. Unfortunately, not everyone does that.

>>2269
That's the most disgusting donut steel I have ever seen published commercially

>>2276
Sonic Adventure?

>>2279

It's the Metal Sonic from the comic's adaption of CD but based on a design when he rebuilt himself in a new body. Then he was repainted with a color scheme based off of one of Metal Sonic's alternate costumes in Sonic Rivals.

I'm not sure if that makes it better or worse when typed out like that.

>>2206
Dr. Zachary AND Finitevus? neat.

>>2279
Then you've never seen any of Ken's echidnas.

>>2280
Yeah I sure loved the part where they threw all the mechanics that made the classic Sonic games fun out the window and made me play a broken 3rd person shooter.

>>2082
>this thing was bad so it makes the other things good

>>2283
Point taken.

>>2284
So did most critics and the general audience.

>>2279
>An actual design taken from Sonic Rivals is the most disgusting donut steel ever
HURF DURF

>>2287
It literally looks like someone just redid Metal Sonic with Bass's color scheme and arm buster.

>>2286
Eat shit, millions of flies can't be wrong.

>>2279
>That's the most disgusting donut steel I have ever seen published commercially
PFFFFFFFFTTTTTTT HAHAHAHAHAHA

>>2288
The Megabuster is a little plagiaristic. But considering how awesome a gun-arm is by default, I give it a pass personally. And you have to admit black and gold is a pretty sexy color scheme.

>>1962
>Would Sega ever do something incredibly risky and stupid, thus losing fans and gaining a fuck ton of bad PR

I don't wan't to have to answer that one for you anon

I just hope whoever picks up the Sonic comics next manages to keep up Eggman as awesome as he's been for Archie. Archie Eggman's got a great "silly one moment, terrifying the next" thing going on. He's a genuine threat, but he's also genuinely fun to watch. It'd be a shame if he was reduced to being just a comical oaf again.

>>2288
>>2291
For what it's worth, his megabuster arm's been around since 2000 or so.

>>2294
And he isn't even the only Archie character to take one up.

So what happened to Gemerl? I remember for the longest time they didn't have the rights to him, then he finally appears in the second MegaMan crossover and disappears halfway through without a trace.

>>2296
He shows up occasionally and jobs to whoever he's fighting.

>>2297
I think he jobbed to a mind-controlled Megaman.

>>2139
Anon at some point you have to take a step back and look at yourself.

>>2297
>>2298
Was there others? I don't think I read any after the second crossover.

>>2272
>Crisis City act 2
>garbage

That's the best modern Sonic stage in the game you fucking animal.

>>2296
Sega wanted to keep X separate from the rest of the brand, and for some reason Emerl and Gemerl were caught up in that for the longest time. Then they were finally able to use him, so he shows up after the reboot pre-established. Then he disappears in the crossover because the crossover is a fuckfest where nothing gets any payoff.

>>2301
The best Modern stages are Seaside Hill, City Escape and Sky Sanctuary. And maybe Rooftop Run. Crisis City Act 2 was a ton of homing attack chains, ugly designs and stop-and-go platforming. Green Hill Zone Act 2 is better than it.

>>2261
>SEGA "wants to get Sonic's main gameplay right
They got it right in Generations. That was six years ago.

>>2301
>>2303
Rooftop Run > Sky Sanctuary > Speed Highway > Seaside Hill > City Escape > Crisis City > Chemical Plant > Green Hill Zone > Planet Wisp

I just started reading these comics for the first time since I was a kid and now they're getting cancelled... fuck my life.

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After the crossover he went back to living with Vanilla like before. He was tasked with protecting the emeralds and gaia keys but Eggman unleashed his master plan during the Unleashed arc 4 part finale. Now lets see how it went for Gemerl

>>2308
my fucking sides

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>>2312
>mains SnS
>doesn't use any oils
Doomed to cart.

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>Emerl/Gemerl will most likely never be shown or referenced again outside these comics

>>2313
And that's that before being saved by Cream and Big.

>>2304
My guess is SEGA doesn't think they've made Boost as good as it could be. Or they're just looking for an excuse to not include them. Thankfully, people have been making it clear to Aaron that they want them back, so maybe if people keep telling them they want playable characters back, they'll listen.

>>2315
Well, to be perfectly fair, it did take quite a lot of combined effort to shut him down. Not quite the "jobbing" I was expecting.

>>2257
>Boom will most likely have a third season
Boom has games.