/ck/ - Food & Cooking

Got a bottle of picrel as a Christmas gift this year

>>20083988
Armagnac is still low stock in my market, but I just got these today. Maybe a couple more in the next week or so depending on the weather.

>>20083976
Picked up these two a while ago, both delicious
Want to try the Laphroaig quarter cask next

>>20084013
It's been a while since I've had Ledaig, I can't remember what it tastes like; might have to fix that

>>20083976
I kinda want to buy a bottle of the LaFrog #15 or #16 but I don't know which one is better. Any advice? I really enjoyed the #3 back in 2011.

>>20084208
I like both the 10 and the QC.
I haven't ever really had both at the same time for comparison, but I feel like the QC is less peaty than the 10.

>>20084229
this 18 is a really nice balance of sweet and savory. nose is slightly sweeter, palate is more savory. peat is nicely rounded from its age so its definitely not as austere as the notable component in something like 6 Isles. Peppery-ness is on par with Talisker, but everything about it is a cut above anything bottled by Diageo for the last decade. after shipping Ledaig 18 cost me $115, good drop for the price and this is based on the neck pour.

>>20084340
https://youtu.be/AlpEcoQihZI?si=wqZ87_fZuoEUWLD8
tldr; 15 if you want a crowd pleaser, 16 if you want more oak and abv

>>20084353
QC adds a lot of flavor in the quick aging. also more age = less peat flavor, but its fucking Laphroaig.

>>20083976
What's a good mid-tier whiskey for dry manhattans? I don't like sweet vermouth.

>>20084991
Knob Creek 9 or Russell's Reserve 10 are in the same $30-$40 bracket now. Buffalo Trace, Rittenhouse Bottled in Bond, Wild Turkey 101 should all make decent cocktails as well as fine sipping if you dont like how they work in a group.

>>20083976
>doing dry January
Shit. I doubt I could do dry Tuesday.
I'm a bourbonfag. Latest pickups include the meme-ish heaven hill BIB, a Taylor single barrel, and a nice Elijah Craig single barrel.

>>20084991
I liek a spicy Manhattan. That means rye. High West Double Rye is fan-fucking-tastic in a sweet Manhattan. I think it would work well in a dry version, as well.

>>20084208
>leapfrog 10
Not much of a Scotch guy, but that is an unforgettable whisky, in the good sense.

>>20084962
Thanks!

>>20083988
>>20084013
One of my stores was listing 40 and 50 year vintage Armagnacs online and they recently removed them, I can't tell if they're really gone or not because their online catalogue is never accurate

>>20084962
tfw the 10 CS is 200 eur in my country for some reaon

>>20084208
The quarter cask is milder to my tongue. I tried the Laphroaig Lore at a restaurant recently and really enjoyed it, though I don't think I appreciated the difference enough to make it worthwhile regularly.

I did have a weird experience once with the 10 where it had an unpleasant acrid aftertaste.

>>20083976
I'm thankful that discussing brandies is okay here because the anon who made a dedicated Cognac thread triggered a bunch of communist bots who want all liquor to be a government monopoly

Been on a bit of an old fashioned kick lately. I'm not a sophisticated man, so Buffalo Trace is my #1 go to. I have been messing with my simple syrup and have decided that my favorite one is:
1 cup sugar
1 cup water
flesh of 4-5 oranges
2 cinnamon sticks (removed after reduction)
Strain or blend and keep in bar fridge.

reduce somewhere between maple syrup and molasses consistency. I used to overdo it on the bitters because I liked the orangey flavor, but now a splash of bitters works with a dash of that syrup.

>>20083976
Redpill me on whiskey. It always strikes me as inferior to rums or brandies when it comes to variety of taste, and inferior to vodka as a base for liqueurs and mixed drinks.

What makes it so popular?

>>20087059
it's like any other spirit anon. there's numerous nuances to making it with a myriad number of ingredients of differing qualities resulting in near-endless end-results. boiling it down to one spirit being better than another is a fool's folly

>>20087059
You get drunk and associate the flavor with good time, and it grows on you

>>20083976
Man, I was 19 when I drank my first Laphroaig and I haven't found anything better since.

>>20087133
Try Ardbeg, Caol Ila, Bunnahabhain, just look around for really peaty whiskeys

>>20087070
>boiling it down to one spirit being better than another is a fool's folly
The problem is that most of the bars I go to (I live in the American countryside) will almost exclusively stock whiskeys that are mediocre at best. I've had some decent ones, but they never struck me as supremely good enough to dominate the shelves as they do here.

>>20087218
Have a Laphroaig 10yo shipped to your home. You WILL like it.

Whisky has rare/unique flavor profiles like peat, smoke, and seaweed you won't find in many/any other drinks.

>>20087218
>>20087250
I'm not sure if Laphroaig is a starter whisky
Jura maybe? Glenlivet?
For bourbon try Woodford Reserve or Jefferson's Reserve

>>20087141
Which Ardbeg to try?

>>20087451
Just the 10 year, if you like it then you can play around with some of the others

I drink Maker's Mark. What should I switch to to become a connoisseur?

>>20087480
Maker's Mark is expensive for what you get
Look into single-barrel/single-malts if you want something that's a step up, or, alternatively
Buy a bunch of cheaper whiskeys and knock a bunch of different styles out
Some people take notes

Hudson Valley small batch is my favorite

>>20085350
why is heaven hill bib a meme? tried it a year ago and at $50 seems fine

>>20085999
You should make your own glayva, it's a whiskey liqueur flavored with tangerine peel, honey, almonds, and spices

>>20085964
>>20084962
A bit milder wouldn't be an issue though it is the intensity is why I like the frog 10 so much
How is the QC compared to laga 16?

how does proper 12 compare to jameson?
and is jameson decent?

>>20088676
Proper 12 is shit. Jameson is fine.

>>20088676
Both = 404 flavor not found
If you must drink Irish, go Redbreast or go home.

>>20087715
>glayva
Thanks for the rec. Not huge on almond flavor, but looking at some recipes it seems that it's not super important to the profile. Most of them also call for scotch, but for me scotch is always best alone. Think it would work with bourbon?

>>20083976
>What'cha get for the holidays?
The Dalmore 15

>What are ya buyin?
Been buying mostly Redbreast 12 and Johnnie Walker Green/Gold, but I haven't been able to find a bottle of green in almost 6 months.

>Johnnie Walker

>>20088944
For price/performance/availability, it ticks the boxes.

Green and Gold are actually solid and if you did a blind tasting with them you'd almost certainly rank them middlingly solid/decent, or higher.

The price of japanese shit has gotten absurd over the last several years, I could get Yamazaki 18 for less than $200 bottle back in the day, now it's $475-500.
JW Green/Gold? Still $55-75.

>>20088948
>For performance, it ticks the boxes.

>>20088949
Then what should I be buying?

I've had most things that are readily available around me

Laphroaig 10/12, Ardbeg 10, Highland Park 12, Suntory Toki, Glenfiddich 12/15/18, Macallan 12/15, Redbreast 12/15, Yellow/Green spot, etc.

>>20088959
This board is full of contrarianism as a way to make themselves feel superior. Johnnie walker is well known "normie" whiskey, AND it's a *blend*, how horrible. Hell I know people that shit on Johnnie walker despite having never tried anything but Johnnie walker red and black, as if that was wholly representative of the entire brand.

For me it's 3/4 of a bottle of Jim beam before bed

got some very old st nick reserve rye. its good. almost worth the price.

>>20089082
Do you start the next night with the 1/4 of a bottle left or wait until you have 3 1/4 bottles for the 4th night?

>>20083976
>dry January
lets not get carried away now...i'm just broke

>>20087666
Devil trips of truth.

I'm starting to become a heaven hill fag. Liking the HH BiB 7yr. Found the McKenna 10 yr BIB for 55, and liking that a lot too.

Had some EC private barrels that are nice, but they want ~$79 for them. Not worth it when I can get the two BIBs above for at least 20 less.

>>Captcha can eat a dick.

>>20088932
It definitely would, for best results start with a barrel proof Bourbon

My rye journey
Rittenhouse - Intrigued by the baking spices but too sweet/practically a bourbon
Bulleit Rye - Delicious with a spicy high rye mashbill
High West Double Rye - Bulleit but rougher, in a good way/also more herbaceous
>find out most ryes on the market are sourced from MGP
Dad's Hat - Authentic old timey monongahela recipe/unadulterated rye/would thin paints with
Knob Creek - Had in a cocktail/vanilla peanuts/needs further examination
Basil Hayden Dark Rye - Whiskey is completely overshadowed by port
High West Rendezvous Rye - Smoother than the double rye with holiday spices/good with pumpkin pie/not worth the extra money

Where to next?

>>20089597
New Riff.
I have enjoyed both their bourbon and ryes.

This was on sale for $53 at the store across the street.

What do y'all think of the Stellum bourbon and rye offerings that have been coming out?

>>20090405
Nice
>>20091115
Looks like some Jim Beam-tier to-order blend

>>20088959
>Then what should I be buying?
Stopredditspacing 12.

>>20091125
i've been reddit spacing on 4chan since before reddit existed, you aren't going to stop me now.

Not to mention the reddit spacing meme itself was created to let newfags out themselves as newfags by calling out "reddit spacing" when in reality it's just an old hold-over formatting style from '90s and early '00s text forums.

tldr; fuck off

>>20091115
Seems like they're trying to get rid of it around me.

>>20083976
I need to build a shelf to put my stuff on now, the collection is building.

>Laphroaig 10
>Laphroaig Select
>Ardbeg 10
>Ardbeg Wee Beastie
>Bruichladdich Classic Laddie
>Bruichladdich Port Charlotte 2013
>Creag Isle 12 (christmas gift, it's okay, does not tickle my fancy)
>Jura Islander's Expression, Pale Ale Cask (also a gift, tasty stuff)
>Glenfiddich 12, Sherry Cask finish (gift from neighbor)
>Monkey Shoulder
>40* Whisky, The Fujisan (gift from friends trip to Japan)
>The Famouse Grouse (not a fan, at all)

I'm a Bourbon/Gin guy who's recently fallen in love with scotch, particularly peated stuff. I need some good ones to look out for, local grocery stores don't have much so I usually make a trip out to Total Wine.

>>20085999
Try using half a cup of brown sugar with half a cup of white, or just a full cup of brown sugar. I think it makes a nice difference.

>>20091249
Talisker 18 if you can find it at a decent price

>>20091152
>tl;dr wall of text trying to justify posting incorrectly

>>20091293
>you're posting wrong because i'm too young and retarded to know better

cool story if i'm bein honest baka

What is the second worst tasting Scotch behind Talisker?

>>20091297
Tie between Johnnie Walker, Caol Ila, Lagavulin and Oban.

>>20091297
>>20091301
>all scotch tastes the same from each brand

you know they all make multiple different offerings, right?

Talisker 18 != Talisker 10
Oban 18/21 != Oban 14
Johnnie Walker Gold/18 != Jonnie Walker Red/Black

>>20091289
What's a good price? Total Wine has a massive selection, but I don't have much guidance besides buying and trying. The Creag Isle was apparently a recommendation 'if he likes peaty' and it may as well be a regular whiskey in that regard, when compared to Laphroaig or similar.

>>20091318
I wouldn't want to pay more than ~$150, but it goes for $165 around me at the moment, so ymmv.

>>20091318
>What's a good price?
$10
It's dogshit.

>>20091345
>$10
That's too much for Talisker. You could get a handle of Popov for that and it'd taste better.

>>20091345
>>20091353
>>20091323

I've heard many a mixed things about Talisker, from great, to mid, to absolutely shit.

>>20091405
Half of these chuds have only ever had the cheapest or 2nd cheapest offerings avaliable from most distillers as they can't justify spending 2-3x+ for the same quantity of alcohol. Then they claim to know what that distillers' more expensive offerings taste like, despite having never tried them.

>>20091405
The great things you've heard about it here in particular were probably all the same paid shill who has posted here for years.
He even straight up admitted being a Diageo employee at one point.
He also got banned numerous times for spamming shill threads.

>>20091422
The best Talisker was the first release of the 25 year old, that shit was amazing. So peppery. The old 18 year old was great too, but the 10 is better these days. The Distiller's Edition is interesting, but the sweet finish kills its distinct character. The closest malt to Talisker is Brora, but I imagine bottles of that are very scarce now.

>>20088938
>recommending Johnnie Walker
>oh wait this spacing seems familiar
>>/ck/thread/13144841#p13147643
>>/ck/thread/13144841#p13147744
Haha the Redditspacer is the Talisker shilling Diageo employee.

>>/ck/thread/12582132#p12588805
>>/ck/thread/12582132#p12588922
Yep. Redditspacer is the Diageo/Talisker shill. Confirmed.
He has the same curious, unique trait of NOT Redditspacing the first line after the post number but then Redditspacing subsequent paragraphs as in >>20091152
For those new here:
>>/ck/image/i4BPKPmY34nLvrYrO4eiHg
Look at how many times he spammed this shit.

>>20091502
>>20091530
>>20091543
>anyone that likes Talisker or Johnnie Walker are the same poster from years ago who hasn't posted since 2021
You need meds.

>>20091818
"Reddit spacing" is an immediate schizo tell. I've been on Reddit and I still don't understand what it's supposed to mean.

>>20091530
>>20091543
ahaha oh wow
that's definitely him that posting style is very unusual can't be a coincidence
good detective work anon he's been shilling diageo as long as I can remember

>>20091974
>doesn't use the same phrases or word choice
>just happens to mention talisker (and the 18 specifically, unlike the shill who only posted talisker 10)
>uses "reddit spacing" something tends of thousands of others on this site have done over the last 20 years

>that's definitely him
Lol
Lmao even

>>20089636
i hate the bottle

>>20092007
We appreciate your desperate post-exposure attempt at damage control, narrative control and manufacturing a consensus via samefagging.
2 rupees have been deposited into your account for this post, Sandeepajeetapishwarajupasanabhinandanagulanallasivanagarajanilanithinageshwaran.
Yours sincerely,
Diageo

>>20091120
They're blends, yeah, done by Barrell. It's supposed to be a less froufrou, more accessible line of whiskeys than Barrell's typical blends. I think they're quite nice for the price.

>>20091156
Same. I found them pretty good for the price I bought them at, i.e. heavily discounted. Part of me wonders if they do pricing shenanigans where it's listed at a high price but it's always heavily discounted to entice you with a "deal".

>>20091251
I thought about that while I made some this past weekend. I may do another batch of all brown sugar this weekend and mix the two. Thanks

Recommend me something, /WG/. I've been chasing that farmy funk ever since my IB Ledaig 13 single cask ran out, and nothing seems to get close.

>>20091530
>>20091543
I'm unconvinced, as noted by another anon, the posting styles aren't really alike, he didnt post the image or the identical phrase. Beyond that, the idea that "reddit spacing" but NOT doing it AFTER the post number somehow being unique, is laughable, almost every "reddit spaced" post in this thread does the same, are they all the same shill too?

Examples:
>>20084962
>>20085964
>>20087059
>>20087250
>>20088938
>>20088948
>>20088959
>>20089421
>>20091152
>>20091296
>>20091315
>>20092062

My Schizo alarm is going off far more than my Diageo shill alarm is.

Couldn't find a New Riff rye in the direction I went today so snagged some Sagamore Double Oak instead. I can't believe I was sitting on Sagamore. This shit is peak cozy.

First allocated bottles of the year at my local county stores, anything worth picking up?

>>20094120
Always wanted a bottle of A Midwinter Night's Dram but it ain't worth the expense.

>>20094146
Yeah, it's $132. I might pick it up, there are 48 bottles for the county, so should be easier to get than the Springbank 15/18 which have just 6 bottles each for the county.

Even if I were to go wait outside the door 2 hours before they open I probably wouldn't be able to buy one of those. Not to mention they're $200 and $330, so not at all affordable.


I'm also considering the Hibiki as it should be easy enough to get as every store in the county has 6 bottles.

>>20089597
Sazerac is worth trying but may not be what you're looking for, hard to beat it at the price though. Michters rye is solid and Whistlepig piggyback rye if you want pure rye.

>>20084013
here are the other two bottles. nothing crazy, but really good value. The Glengarry tastes exactly like the standard Loch Lomond 12 and was only $29.99. I don't know why but Loch Lomond group left my market at the end of 2020, although the odd LL18 and Glen Scotia Victoriana will pop up once every 12-18 months. The Glen Elgin is nice, but very subtle with the peat which seems more like it was sloshed around in a Caol Ila barrel for a couple months.
>Armagnac
the price on the Tariquet 15 I bought spring '22 went from $64.99 to $97.99, same store and 47.2% bottling as well. Crazy when I can get a vintage Delord at twice the age for $109.99 at the same store.

>>20084013
here are the other two bottles. nothing crazy, but really good value. The Glengarry tastes exactly like the standard Loch Lomond 12 and was only $29.99. I don't know why but Loch Lomond group left my market at the end of 2020, although the odd LL18 and Glen Scotia Victoriana will pop up once every 12-18 months. The Glen Elgin is nice, but very subtle with the peat which seems more like it was sloshed around in a Caol Ila barrel for a couple months.
>Armagnac
the price on the Tariquet 15 I bought spring '22 went from $64.99 to $97.99, same store and 47.2% bottling as well. Crazy when I can get a vintage Delord at twice the age for $109.99 at the same store.

>>20083976
wtf I'm drinking Laphroaig right now.

>>20095679
I'm sorry

>>20094225
I'd rank them
Michters>Whistlepig Piggyback>Sazerac

>>20087218
>>20087250
>>20087323
Balvenie Doublewood is a good intro. Just the regular, not the "Caribbean Cask".

Why do retards always recommend whiskies with almost no flavor as "good intros?"

>>20097411
because slamming someone with a stronger whisky right off the bat can be quite off-putting for many people.

Unless you know someone with a large selection you can try various types, distillers, price points, etc. It's gonna take awhile and a fair bit of money for someone new to whisky to really find what they like, so yes it GENERALLY is better to recommend something with less flavor so they can get their boots wet before diving into the wider world of whisky.

>>20097427
And having people drink shit with barely flavor at all won't be off-putting?
Flavor is good.
I can understand some flavors like peat being an acquired taste.
There are some extremely flavorful whiskies though, like, say, Glendronach 12, that have flavor profiles that most people will enjoy.

>>20095293
You should save up a little and treat yourself to an old vintage Armagnac like a 25 year, 40 year, or even 50 year

>>20097411
Whiskey doesn't need to have a strong flavor to be good. I tend to prefer more subtle flavors personally.

>>20098552
>this poster's face when flavor

>>20098611
Are you one of those people who thinks Glenmorangie tastes like water?

>>20084991
>>20085073
>>20085358
I've been trying to make a Manhattan with this stuff and I can't seem to get the taste right. Any suggestions?

Kind of a basic pick I guess but this is my favorite single malt I've tried so far, any suggestions on where to go take it from here?

>>20098657
The sherry finish version is good too. Try Glenlivet 12 as well.

>>20098636
I bet your favorite ice cream flavor is vanilla.

>>20098681
I am a simple man

>>20098657
Their solera 14 is similar, you might enjoy it.

>>20094120
>>20094146
Midwinter Night's Dram was gone by the time I got into the store (~40 people waiting outside at opening time, I was around 30th, they only let 10 people in at a time) it was limited to 1 bottle of each highly allocated selection, and a max of 2 bottles total per person, so by the time the 3rd group of 10 got in the store, all 6 bottles of a Midwinter Night's Dram was already gone.

I did pick up the Hibiki though. Nothing super exciting, but better than a kick in the teeth.

>>20098912
Hibiki Japanese Harmony is decent, though like all japanese whisky, it was far more palatable when it was 1/3rd or 1/2 the cost only a few years prior.

>>20098636
Vanilla's the most complicated flavor
You're bad at this

>>20099182
People say that shit about Glenmorangie and other whiskys all the time

Why does gin make my whole body hurt but other liquors don't?

>>20094120
that's a lot of Elijah Craig

>>20098680
>>20098851
Thanks I'll check these out, assuming you meant solera 15

>>20098657
God I wish I could more easily get the other Glenfiddich releases.

For some reason my local store has 12/12 Sherry/15, and everything else is sold out if it comes in stock.

Except for the highest-end shit, which they have in stock all the time.

>>20100252
It's almost a good thing desu. Higher age statements for mass-market malts are almost always not worth it.

Better to explore some lesser known stuff from Speyside that's higher quality.

>>20100352
I get that, I do. But it would still be nice to try them occasionally.

Even though i'll still buy the cheaper shit most days, it's annoying when I AM looking to buy a more expensive option and they're always sold out.

>>20083976

i wish it was time for Halloween already

>>20087059
marketing and buying it as a status symbol. maybe social media too. thats about it.

>>20088944
fuck you black is goated. unless you can point me to the same thing but cheaper

>>20100470
black is objectively "okay" and for its price, that's good.

>>20100472
thats what i meant actually. something cheap that tastes good instead of shit is goated in my book

>>20100472
>black is objectively "okay" and for its price, that's good.
How did this turn into a thread about white supremacists enslaving people of color?!

>>20100472
JW Black is $45 where I live and at that price I'd rather get a single malt. It isn't bad, though.

>>20100549
what the fuck. i get it for 25 here. the only place i saw a price like that is by yellowstone. i would just give up on spirits at that point.

>>20100549
It's $39.99 around me when not on sale, and as cheap as ~$30 (though more often ~$35) on sale.

>>20100561
$25 seems abnormally low given how scotch prices are inflated currently.

>>20100561
>i would just give up on spirits at that point.
If I could only pay $25 I'd be stuck with bourbon. I normally drink single malts anyway so it's not a problem.

>>20098688
>>20099182
You possess a subconscious repression of pleasure which will ultimately manifest itself in you turning into a lifeforce-sucking catgirl at night while you sleep.
Seek mental help.

>>20100577
>which will ultimately manifest itself in you turning into a lifeforce-sucking catgirl at night while you sleep
I-is that bad?

>>20100505
You can get a handle of Dewar's for like $20 at Costco.

>>20100583
Costco doesn't sell liquor in my state

>>20100583
hmmm maybe. i have a sweet tooth tho and i remember dewars being drier

>>20087250
>Have a Laphroaig 10yo shipped to your home. You WILL like it.
You can't guarantee someone will like peated whisky, retard. Recommend something more normal.

Laphroaig 10 was the first bottle of scotch I ever bought. I didn't think it was gross, but I didn't like it and it almost turned me off of scotch entirely. It was a little while before I felt like pulling the trigger again and dropping some more money on it, because it made me feel like there was a substantial chance that whatever I'd buy would turn me off just as much as that did and I'd end up wasting a lot of money trying to find something good. But really the problem was just the peat, or maybe just the Islay peat, as I've had peated highland scotches that were good. Really I've enjoyed every single malt I've bought since then, since I've never bought another Islay bottle. Scotch is pretty much the only whisky I drink now, so I'm glad I decided to continue, but it makes me cringe when I read shit like this: >>20087250

>>20100671
Yeah that's why I said it's not a good starter
I don't know what that dude was thinking
I remember when you could buy a bottle of Laphroaig for $20 and get back change
Yamazaki, too
I wish I never recommended them to anyone

>>20098912
Probably fucking resellers.

>>20101936
The first 3 people out the door all had a bottle, with two people rushing off to try and get another bottle from a different store.

So yes, probably reselling.

>>20098912
>>20101936
Looks like Montgomery County MD liquor, so not too surprising when you're in that sort of highly populated and rather wealthy area.

Probably some people who just wanted it for themselves, though resellers are also quite common.

>>20097411
I hope you don't mean >>20097390

Balvenie Doublewood tastes great and has an interesting double flavor profile. There's a reason it's so highly recommended as a "beginner whisky".

>>20088944
Green Johnnie is good and I'm tired of pretending it's not

>>20104340
Green is my favorite, but gold gets an honorable mention, and around me anyway, they're within ~$5-10 of each other.

>Johnnie Green
>Johnnie Gold

>>20104370
We get it, you're better than the rest of us because you don't like popular things.

>>20104373
No they're overpriced blends

>>20104385
Except they're affordable as fuck in comparison to half the other shit on the market right now, and the idea that blends = shit is so fucking cringe you might as well just admit you hate JW for being popular, as at least that makes you into an average contrarian loser instead of a complete retard.


I can get Johnnie walker Green/Gold pretty much anywhere in the developed world with a liquor store nearby. Anything else you mention there is a solid chance it isn't available locally around me, or the price point varies widely depending on location making it an okay deal for some, but a shit deal for others.

Johnnie walker is simply an established known quantity, and their mid-range labels (Green/Gold) are solid offerings in their price point, and with the inflation in whiskey over the last years I'd even argue they're pretty great value.

>>20104402
No I drink blended bourbon all the fucking time and if you're gonna buy scotch there are better deals
But you know what I won't tell you what they are because I want them to stay cheap
So I take it back, Johnnie Walker is a great buy and everyone who enjoys it has immaculate taste, and they're also value-minded, they really are the best coinesuers

>>20104415
Lmao, thanks for confirming you're just a contrarian retard that can't stand being seen to like something NORMIES happen to like.

Don't worry, I won't judge you for buying your sekrit klub whiskey that no one else wants because it's some 3-4 year old shit. But hey, it's cheap.

>>20104385

>>20104508
Jesus drink more booze Johnny Walker costs like, 30-50 percent more than what it's worth

>>20104402
>Except they're affordable as fuck in comparison to half the other shit on the market right now
JW Green is $65-80 here, so it isn't affordable considering there are plenty of decent single malts at that range.

>>20104525
Sucks to suck I guess.
For me JW red is $25-30, black is $35-40, double black is $45-50, green $55-60, gold $65-70, 18 year (formerly platinum) $80-90, blue is $220-250.

Green and gold are pretty damn good for their price and i'd pick them up over the Dalmore 12 or similar single malts in the price range.

I'm not saying you should NEVER buy anything else in that price bracket, but if i'm not looking to try something new and I just want a solid performer, JW Green is my go-to choice generally.

new whiskey fag here, went to the nikka distillery in yoichi around christmas and blew a bunch of money at their whiskey tasting bar to try and figure out what I like but not sure what I was tasting outside smokey/sweet/fruity smell. I ended up bringing home the yoichi single malt because it looked good, did i fuck up?

>>20104903
Which one specifically?

That said it's a good whisky, nothing mind blowing, but it's good stuff.

>>20104385
This.

Anyone had experience with London Rye?

>>20104907
specifically remember tasting the Single Malt Peaty & Salty and the Single Coffey Grain Woody & Mellow and enjoying those. Also remember trying the Black Nikka Special and not really liking that.

>>20091297
Deveron is the single worst scotch

>>20098657
Glengoyne 21.

>>20105698
My local store only has the 15.

Strained and tasted my Le Mousquet
It's not bitter as some anons would fear but definitely still very dry and Armagnac-forward, will probably need more time to rest

>>20083976
soon I will have a BD.What I should buy myself?

ITT: people who should treat their alcoholism

>>20106873
Prohibition led to glorification of organized crime and a rise in hard drug use, as well as directly contributing to the great depression

>>20106873
Just because I enjoy drinking whisky on occasion doesn't mean i'm an alcoholic.

I buy 1 or 2 bottles a month and generally have at least half a bottle left over by the end of the month.

>>20106873
poison is the cure and I treat myself a couple times a week.

>>20089597
so Dad's Hat is worth buying? I like Old Overholt 114.

>>20107614
I thought Rittenhouse tasted like paint thinner so if he thinks it's OK but Dad's Hat tastes like paint thinner then I'm going to assume Dad's hat tastes like super paint thinner

>>20107625
Rittenhouse is a sweet rye with only a touch of the dill note. rest is spices and sweetened black tea.

I did the Bushmills tour on Saturday. Decent

>>20109137
I've never done a distillery tour, would you say it's worth the time?

>>20107614
Dad's Hat is a novelty. You gotta be super into rye, not the whiskey, the grain itself, to have any real appreciation for it. It's like those people who buy bourbons that taste like freshly shucked corn silk.

>>20109288
Had a tour at Auchentoshan a few years back, it was nice. They had a couple of bottles that they only sold at the distillery which I made sure to pick up, wouldn't be surprised if other distilleries have something similar. Don't think the experience will vary too much between different distilleries though, so go to one that makes whisky you really like.

>bottom shelf gin
>premium tonic
yep, its sipping time

>>20110127
Based

What can I make with cointreau other than margaritas?

>>20110430
mai tai

>>20110808
>mmmmmm, mai tai

>>20110430
corpse reviver
singapore sling
cosmopolitan
sidecar
white lady
ranch water
kamikaze
long island iced tea

>>20087323
Laphroaig was my first whisky and it was a 10/10 introduction

>>20111988
That's good that it worked out but I really don't think something peated like that is a good starter

>>20110964
>Girl drink drunk

>>20111988
And if you don't like peat you'll wonder what the fuck other people are doing drinking this shit and then never touch whisky again the you assume it's all peat.

>>20098912
Japanese Harmony is a great blend, a good introduction to japanese whisky, more delicate flavor profile than you get with most western whisky/scotch.

I just finished a bottle of lagavulin 16 and really liked it. what's another similar whisky that's worth trying inside the $100 range?

>>20114322
Paint thinner

>>20114322
Similar would mean heavily peated with some sherry cask influence, so you're looking at Ardbeg Uigeadail, Laphroaig Lore and Laphroaig 10 Year Old Sherry Oak Finish.

>>20083976
Redbreast 15 is fantastic and you should all buy some. 12 is good too and way more affordable.

>>20084229
From memory very similar to Talisker 18 but more expensive.

>>20114424
Is the 15 worth it over the 12?

I've bought the 12 twice and liked it well enough, but not enough to buy it over some other things in that price range.

Never tried the 15.

They had Redbreast Lustau for fifty something at Costco a year or two ago. Bought one, and it was goddamn amazing so I went back and bought two more the next day.
Could not justify $120+ on the 15 last month when it was at Costco, though.
I'd cum in my pants if they got the Lustau back in, though.

>>20084208
Ardbeg tastes like shit.

>>20085902
Look into smokehead high voltage. It's Caol Ila and should be cheaper than the low abv laphroaig.

>>20087059
>when it comes to variety of taste
Shocking. It has far more variety than both.
You've actually compared it to some very samey spirits.

>>20088930
As much as redbreast is better than those two, it has less flavour.

>>20114452
This but Talisker.

>>20114468
That's absolutely wrong.

>>20089079
Not everyone here is a whisky noob, believe it or not.

Red is trash.
Black / double black / sherry black are all decent but price matters. If they undercut single malts feel free, if they don't then they don't perform too favourably.
Green is well liked. I think it's too mild and it does costs more than most single malts. Great age for the price, but I'd stick to the ingredients within (Cragganmore, Linkwood, Caol Ila, Talisker).
Blue is great but price is blown the fuck out. The same blender made Spencer Collings Founders Reserve 10, and it's cask strength and cheaper and better. And it's not even that good value when compared to some indie CS bottlings.

Everything is a price to performance trade off. Johnny Walker fails in my market to deliver there. Try everything yourself and evaluate compared to local conditions as always. Even the dogmatic anti shills are often complaining because a specific bottle costs double in their area.

For me it’s wild turkey in a coffee mug so my old lady doesn’t give me shit for drinking.

>>20114542

>>20114435
To me, the 12 tastes thin and weak next to the 15 but plenty of people prefer the 12 to the 15. Stores near me mark up 15 to over double the price of the 12 and its not worth it. If you get a good price on the 15 I would give it a try. $120 or $130 is the best i see around here.

>>20114629
Given it was $120 something at Costco when I saw it, I don't think anyone's likely to find it cheaper.

>>20114629
Yeah I might pick it up if it goes on sale or if I can't find anything else interesting one day. But I'll probably stick to the 12 year in general just based on the price difference.

>>20114445
that's not even a good deal. costco posts on facebook are all regular or higher prices. even for the mid shelf shit like Maker's. what's the point of buying it from costco now?

>>20110430
Cafe Brulot Diabolique

>>20114455
>Smokehead
jumped $20 in my market, some now over $100 USD after tax. too much for over marketed poopy Caol Ila. you can get Independently Bottled Bunnahabhain from Total Wine for under $40 after tax and it's not Diageo dooky.

>>20090405
>This was on sale for $53 at the store across the street.

Wow. Still about $50 bucks too much.

>>20114629
>>20114643
>>20114863
Why even fuck with either of them? pic related but you can find stuff like Tyrconnel with various finishes and ages for half the price of the RB CS or even just Power's upper middle shelf selection for a better Middleton product.

>>20115459
I did get an Old Forester 1920 there last month for $49 which is a few bucks cheaper than Totalwine.
But yes, the price gap there is smaller than it used to be. I suppose inflation is probably making it difficult for Costco to sell significantly lower than competitors like they used to.

>>20093496
Glen Garioch is getting some good marks from fans of those in your pic. there's also old Jura's that can impress.

>>20115499
I liked the Lustau better than the CS, although the CS was part of the most magical food/whisky pairing I have ever experienced: Redbreast 12 CS and Mexican-style rice pudding. The synergy/enhancement was mind-blowing and very unexpected.

>>20098308
I should've done it last year, nothing really stole the scene this year and a lot of regulars were absent even. More money would work too.

>>20098649
is it spoiled?

bump

>>20112846
I’M FINE, JUST GETTING SOME PAPERCLIPS

What is a good scotch for a rye drinker to try? I normally drink bulleit rye either near or on the rocks. I tried ardbeg and I hated it. Jameson is ok but very bland so I don’t get why it’s so popular.

>>20117240
What about the Ardbeg didn't you like?

>>20117409
Not sure which kind I tried but it tasted like you strained water through camp fire coals.

>>20117715
Laphroaig or similar probably.

>>20117715
I tried the Lefrog10 for the first time today and for me the smoke and peat tasted just disgusting. Had a sip of Glenlivet after that and it was a revelation.

>>20117829
>>20117845
It was Ardbeg

>>20117409
>I smoke cock: Talisker
Accurate!

>>20117715
That's pretty standard for an Ardbeg 10. Peat forward scotches probably aren't for you. Best to avoid brands from the Islay region. You should try something from Speyside like Monkey Shoulder.

Smokey whiskies with little to no peat?

>>20118194
Thanks for this, have any more charts?

>>20118222
There is quite a few. Benromach 10, kilkerran 12 and craigellachie 13 come to mind. Benromach is lightly sherried too

>>20118194
>Monkey Shoulder
404: Flavor Not Found

>>20118194
The part highlighted in reddish here is the 404: Flavor Not Found zone, aka the Scotches for Homosexuals zone.

>>20118329
>404: Flavor Not Found zone
have you tasted these whiskeys ? Just because you don't like monkey shoulder doesn't mean that arran 10 or glengoyne are shit

>>20118194
Maybe scotch isn’t for me I like the spicy flavor of a good rye. I also like some bourbons but not when they get too sweet and syrupy like markers mark.

>>20118380
Try Ledaig 10

>>20118380
Scotch isn’t for everybody. No one said you had to be a cigar chewing, glencairn sniffing, leather armchair sitting, beard stroking, poorfag hating elite. Sometimes a simple spicy rough around the edges young rye is all you really want out of a drink.

>>20118372
>have you tasted these whiskeys
Most of them.

>>20118380
Unironically, try Johnnie Walker Green.

It's got a nice light bit of smokey to it's spice.

>>20118394
>Ledaig 10
dude said he hated ardbeg. Why recommend another peated scotch ?
>>20118380
Try a glenfarclas or balblair 12

>>20118535
It's a milder peat

>>20118513
>Most of them.
Yeah right lol >>20118318. You're obviously full of shit anon

>>20118539
Slightly milder, still on the heavily peated side

>>20118514
This anon has been paid by Diageo for years to shill Diageo whiskies on /ck/.
Do not listen to him. Johnnie Walker Green is a bad-tasting, overpriced whisky.

>>20118561
>bad-tasting, overpriced whisky.
no it's not. It's a decent blended malt and depending on where you are can be bought for a decent price for a scotch in that category

>>20118561
>Johnnie Walker Green
>overpriced
that would be the blue label

>>20118578
Every Johnny Walker is overpriced.

>>20118585
No, just the blue label

>>20118596
Regarding every Johnnie Walker, something better can be had for the same price or something equivalent can be had for less.
They are all overpriced.
Absolutely shit-tier brand.

>>20118597
This is just objectively not true, it might not be the best in class for its price, but it's not overpriced, except for blue and platinum.

>>20118597
this is just objectively true

What are some rums I should try if I enjoy Real McCoy 5 and 12?

>>20117240
>why it's so popular
because the people who drink Jameson aren't drinking to taste whiskey just like Cuervo isn't popular tequila because it's a nice tequila to appreciate.

>>20118222
McCarthy's Oregon Single Malt. I hear Del Bac is uniquely smokey, but I keep put of buying it.

>>20118607
imagine paying for coloring in your premium blended scotch

>>20119227
You realize a very large percentage of scotch is colored right? Most distillers and blenders just use it for brand consistency on shelves.

If the coloring is what bothers you with Johnnie, you're just an idiot, since a massive chunk of the entire industry does the same shit.

>>20083976
For me, it's Tullamore Dew.

>>20119300
>a massive chunk of the entire industry does the same shit
not him but that shit pisses me off and i try to avoid such distilleries if i can help it

>>20119434
There's always bourbon, adding coloring to that is illegal

Unpeated sherry cask-aged Scotch > peated Scotch = double-oaked bourbon = high-rye bourbon > most other bourbons > shit > wheated bourbons > unpeated bourbon cask-aged Scotch

>>20119389
Have you tried it in coffee? I've heard it's good for Irish coffee.

>>20119467
Unpeated sherry cask-aged Scotch > peated Scotch = double-oaked bourbon = high-rye bourbon = single pot still Irish whisky > most other bourbons > shit > wheated bourbons > unpeated bourbon cask-aged Scotch > non single pot still Irish whisky

This was the greatest whisky ever made.
>heavy peat and heavy barrel char
>speed aging process made it taste as oaky as a 25 year old
>tasted like BBQ meat
Oh my God this was amazing.
I would cum in my pants if they made this again.
Somebody else needs to make a heavy peat + heavy barrel char whisky.

>>20119481
subtlety and elegance be damned

just fuck my whisky up with excessive oak and peat

>>20083988
Local store just listed Montal 50 year for $235
Should I get it?

>>20119485
Believe it or not, the oak, peat and char were well-balanced with each other. It managed to simultaneously be punch-you-in-the-mouth flavorful yet with neither the oak, peat or char dominating over the other two.
It really did taste like eating a really good BBQ meat's bark, with a lovely savory, meaty note along with the oak, peat and char.
You just don't know if you never tried it. Jim Murray gave it a 94 for a reason.

>>20119473
If my coffee ever made it back to my house after hitting the coffee shack I probably would at some point.

>subtlety and elegance be damned
>just fuck my whisky up with excessive oak and peat

>>20119540
If you're going to shit talk johnnie walker, it helps if you don't post the objectively best johnnie walker.

Double black is just a nasty smoke monster, red basically can't be drunk outside of a mixed drink, etc.

Green is actually good lol. The only good one, but it's good.

>>20119227
Imagine paying for talisker and laphroaig ?

>>20119227
>>20119300
>>20119434
This is hardly an exhaustive list, but even in the same distillers, some releases are colored, and some aren't. Making it VERY difficult to determine if it has or hasn't been colored.

>If you're going to shit talk johnnie walker, it helps if you don't post the objectively best johnnie walker.
>Green is actually good lol.

>>20119607
That's fine, talisker is shit

>>20119585
>Double black is just a nasty smoke monster
This dude has never even fucking tasted Double Black hahahahaha.
Almost zero detectable smoke.

>>20119389
>irish whisney
Prefer Bushmills

>blended whisky
They all taste like sour piss regardless of label.

>>20119712
What a dumb, uneducated opinion.

>>20119745
Tastelet.

>>20119763
To say ALL blends taste like sour piss clearly makes you the tastelet.

Either you've not tried many blends at all, or you're just a tastelet moron, either way your opinion is worthless.

>>20119980
Name one blend that doesn't taste like piss.

>>20119712
what a moron

>>20120110
it's ALMOST like taste is subjective and what YOU like in a scotch isn't what everyone else likes in their scotch, and what you think tastes amazing might taste like shit to me, and what I think tastes amazing might taste like piss to you.

I'm currently drinking Hibiki Japanese Harmony.

>>20120144
>japanese "whisky"
Opinion discarded

>>20120144
Weebsky

>>20120144
I never had jap whiskey but their beer sucks. The only liquor japs can make is sake and even that is kind of lame.

>>20120235
Their whisky industry is HEAVILY scotch influenced, though they tend to take influence from irish whisky as well, and japanese whisky tends to be lighter overall compared to scotch as the japanese palate tends to like more delicate flavors.

>>20088676
as a whiskey noob jameson is very overpriced. I honestly like seagrams 7 more for sipping neat.

>>20118329
>highlighted in reddish
>is orange
I don't take recommendations from the colorblind

>>20091152
I always thought it was newfag redditors who "weren't like those other redditors" trying to look like le epic oldfigs by outing their own kind. It was obviously always a red herring but it's both funny and sad to see how many retards have treated that shit like it's gospel

my uncle gets glenfidditch 14 and I really like it, but it's foreign and they have black people on their website. What's a good american equivilent?

>>20118372
ignore any
>no flavor
shitposters, it's some of the most dedicated autism I've seen on this board

>>20120144
hibiki is good but like all japanese whiskey wildly overpriced
if I find it for $75-80 I buy it but most places in my area markup to $90 or even $100+

>>20120378
I got it for $90 after taxes.

>>20119601
yeah ive seen this list before and some people complained about certain inaccuracies but it’s still a useful guide, my takeaway being that ardbeg is based

coloring is still an issue in tequila and other spirits as well. dumbfuck McDonalds-ification “the customers EXPECT IT to look a certain way”
no i expect my $70 bottle to not have fucking additives

>>20120865
Meh, I don't really care anymore, i've had fantastic artificially colored whisky and shitty non-colored whisky.

The mere fact there is a color additive alone won't turn me away, if it tastes shit on top of that though, then i'll avoid it for sure.

>>20120882
agreed i’ll still drink colored whiskeys that are good but when it comes to which bottles i’ll regularly buy when push comes to shove it’s going to be the undyed ones essentially out of principle

>>20120887
oh for sure if i've got the choice between two good whiskys at the same price point and one isn't artificially colored i'll buy that one.

Who's fucking with American Single Malt?
Poured my first glass of this.
What do I think?

>>20120375
>most dedicated autism
kek

Help me make a bar fellow faggots
I have all the basic alcohols because I'm an alcoholic from college and now that i have money I've bought some slightly nicer higher end stuff for all the basic alcohols, but still missing a lot of the basics I feel.
>Currently in bar:
>Liquors: Reyka Vodka, Kirkland Vodka, Komasa Gin, Hendricks Gin, Malibu, Diplomatico Rum, Kirkland Rum, Single Malt Yoichi Whiskey, Tequila Ocho Plata, Deep Eddy Lemon Vodka
Mixers: Tonic, Club Soda, Orange Juice, Triple Sec, Blue Curacao
Extras: Lemon and Lime juice, Lavender Bitters, Angostura Bitters (what do i use this for), Orange bitters, Lime syrup, simple syrup, dehydrated Limes (i have a dehydrator give me more garnishes I can make)
Keep in mind i am a deeply autistic alcoholic who has spent the last 5 years drinking vodka sodas, rum and coke, and straight shots so i'm trying to be more respectable.

>>20120887
Yeah and the same goes for chill filtration. I like viscous oily scotch and the 40% chill filtered stuff just never hits the spot

>>20120954
get a decent peated whisky and you're set, something like ardbeg 10 or port charlotte 10

>>20120954
>No vermouths
>No amaros
>2 bitters
>2 syrups
For juices (except for pineapple) juice fresh fruit

>>20120963
pc10 or ardbeg for cocktails ? just get the cheapest islay single malt or blend

>>20120932
so ?

Whiskey noob here, I recently tried pic related and I really liked it. Thing is, I'm kind of a nerd for the whole "made in america" thing. What are some good, non-peated American single malts to try?

>>20120989
Nose is sweet, beer-like.
Tastes like I may be getting splinters in my tongue. Like licking the inside of the barrel they aged this in.
Smoother than the majority of ryes/bourbons I'm used to.

>>20120994
Stranahan’s

>>20120974
will any vermouth/amaro work or should I be looking for nicer stuff?
>2 bitters 2 syrups
like more syrups/bitters or are the selection I have enough

>>20120241
>the japanese palate tends to like more delicate flavors
Yeah it's whisky for delicate little gay homosexual flowers.

>>20120994
Just know that most American single malts aren't gonna be anything like Scotch, because Scotch uses old bourbon or sherry casks whereas most American single malts use new oak. Totally different thing - totally different flavors.
With most American single malts they'll be more flavorful than their same-aged Scotch counterparts because new oak has way more flavor to give. Of course, there's a drawback to this - it's very easy to overage something in new oak and end up with an astringent mess.

>>20121016
sounds decent
>>20121070
a lot of cocktails require vermouths. There are three categories : dry, sweet, and blanc. Also you have to put into consideration the shelf life of vermouths after opening (around 4 months in a fridge), so buy smaller bottles.
>Amaro's
Depends on what cocktails you're planning to make. They're different and not quite interchangeable for cocktails but just try Averna, its nice, cheap and commonly available
>syrups/bitters
Demerara, maple syrup. Peychauds bitter

>>20120994
I would try some scottish stuff like glennfiddich and laphroaig first

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>>20121546
>>20121546

>>20121613
no it didn't

How good is the Naked?

>>20121814
I had a complimentary pour and it was great for the price. you could disguise it as something 2-3x the price by throwing it in a decanter.

>>20120980
no not for cocktails, but in case somebody who actually likes whisky comes by. anon wanted to be "more respectable", not something to down in soda.