/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>19957241
Not sharing your cooking, period.

>>19957241
Thats not a cooklet but a humanlet filter

>>19957241
Going light on acid

Being heterosexual

>>19957711
this is a high IQ post

I would work on an oilrig but my glasses would fall into the ocean and then i couldn't work and everyone would mock me

>>19957241
Only using a pairing knife for cutting
Putting knives in the dishwasher
Using non stick pans for everything

>>19957241
For me it's giving a shit about units instead of appreciating both systems for their advantages while recognizing their disadvantages
Also it's Customary not Imperial

>>19957927
Paring Knife.

>>19957241
recipies

>>19957241
how come metricƒags are okay with low-key using cups, teaspoons, tablespoons; but flip their shit the second someone says quart or the like

>>19958072
What gets me is recipes that say shit like '1 cup' worth of something. Nigger I have cups of all shapes and sizes, which fucking cup should I use? Should I just fucking guess and inevitably get it wrong because it's the dumbest way to measure something when 'cup' size isn't a standardized thing? Fuck dude.

>>19957241
>using metric for baking
Literally SOULLESS cooking. The little inconsistencies are what makes baking beautiful.

>>19957927
I put all my butter knifes int he dishwasher, fight me.

>>19957241
For me it’s measuring ingredients at all. Eyeball that shit

>>19957241
Using a dishwasher

>>19958088
>when 'cup' size isn't a standardized thing
it is standardized you slackjawed ape

>>19958088
a cup in volumetric measurement is standardized and is almost egg zachary 250ml, or half a half a litre in common parlance

>>19958108
We'll have a knife fight. You bring you dull dishwasher washed knife, I'll bring my perfectly sharp handwashed knife.

>>19958088
>Americans are taught both systems in school and regularly encounter and work with both, converting between them with ease
>Europeans are only taught metric and lose their shit at the first sight of an imperial measure
>unironically think Americans are just grabbing glassfuls of shit to bake with

>>19957241
You are sat down at a table, and two bakers present a muffin to you made with the exact same recipe, the only difference being one uses imperial measurements and the other metric. There would be no difference in the finished product so complaining about it kinda makes you seem like a frilly fuzzy lala man

>>19958157
>half a half a litre

>>19957241
God damn. You welfare public housing flat living retarded fucks talk so much shit about Americans. From cooking to engineering we use both imperial and metric.

>>19958189
Euros get flustered at fractions more complicated than one half.

>>19957927
>Putting knives in the dishwasher
if your knife is $20 or under this is allowed
>>19958072
a quart is 1/4 (a QUARTer) gallon, whats the deal here anon has anyone sloved this??
>>19958088
come over to the gram side anon, we're waiting
>>19958101
you make me sick for thinking the same doesnt happen when its divisible by 10
>>19958122
but how else will i get laid?
>>19958213
>when baking
comprehensionlet detected

>>19958171
What's funny is that a ton of metric recipes are based around Customary/Avoirdupois (or Imperial in very old Commonwealth countries' recipes)
France still low-key uses Avoirdupois, so they don't have that problem nearly as much, maybe French zoomers struggle with it IDK

>>19958088
no one is this stupid.

>>19957241
how do i be as chad as this guy and work at an oil rig and make big dosh?

>>19957241
For me its over working doughs and batters.

>>19958171
yuroshits loose their minds if the unit isn't divisible by 10000 their feeble brains just can't process it

>>19958426
>chad
he doesnt know
>>19958463
room temp for a reason
>>19958171
the logical progression towards perfection is the precision of measurement. if a 'cup' weighed something people would be using graduations of it. grams is just the soup du jour when it comes to precision at this time. maybe in the future we will measure everything in something else and the debate will continue.

>>19958528
>he doesnt know
tell me what i don't know

>>19958531
i kinda just did.

>>19958540
guess i'll just die

>>19958549
spicy

>>19958393
Well, anon, you are paradoxically right AND Wrong.
That IS bait...And yes, there ARE people that fucking stupid ...more than you think. Think about just how mind numbingly fucking stupid the average schlubb is... half of them are MORE STUPID than that.

>>19958588
it's not the layman's fault that they spent an entire childhood not learning that a FOOT is not a literally "size of my foot" measurement
same for a cup

>>19958593
>it's not the layman's fault that they spent an entire childhood not learning
It absolutely is.
Schools teach that here by the 3rd grade at the latest.
They don't teach measurements like gill or peck strangely.
>A peck is an imperial and United States customary unit of dry volume, equivalent to 2 dry gallons or 8 dry quarts or 16 dry pints. An imperial peck is equivalent to 9.09 liters and a US customary peck is equivalent to 8.81 liters. Two pecks make a kenning (obsolete), and four pecks make a bushel.

>>19958682
i must be wasted... i agree with you but i posted that shit you btfo'd.///..

>>19958694
no harm, no foul.
It's nice to reply to real people and not paid sociopathic trolls or flamebots.
It's kinda like the gas vs. electric argument--The answer is always: DEPENDS.
Gas is superior for cooktops, electric is more stable for baking.
I use both depending on the application.

>>19957241
exact measurements is a filter
you should know by instinct if salt/pepper/sugar/anything else is too much or too little

>>19958739
>It's nice to reply to real people and not paid sociopathic trolls or flamebots.
haha. true. a lot of people i argue with are so deadset on their mask.

>>19958756
Ehhh, we all have are bad days. I'm no fucking saint, but at least I'll mea culpa when I'm wrong.
These newfags, flamebots or whatever the fuck they are, are just pointlessly shitty, almost as if...
nah, who would just go on the internet just to be an insufferable asshole on purpose...nahhhhh.
(kek!)

>>19958528
>if a 'cup' weighed something
A cup weighs 8oz. A cup is exactly 8 fluid ounces. You seem more focused on weight vs volume than metric vs imperial.

>>19957283
The distance to the moon is measured in feet and inches.

>>19957963
Not to start an argument but what is the advantage of measuring non-liquids by cup? I can certainly tolerate measuring powders by teaspoons and tablespoons but I made a soup today and it called for 4 cups of cabbage. It didn't specify how to cut the cabbage. A gram by gram recipe is nice because I can just weight a cabbage and cut it however I wish and know I'm personally on the money.

>>19958511
They could if they wanted to, I think.

>>19959031
Tell me you’re a baker without telling me you’re a baker

>>19957920
I'm laughing at you and it hasn't happened yet
hahah you fucking NERD!

>>19959034
I'm a former fitizen/ED-haver (current on this one, depending who you ask or who provides unsolicited input as it were) who wanted to weight their food for maximum precision. I've used my scale for that more than baking although I do use it for baking too. Weighing flour and other ingredients is comfy to be sure.

>>19959048
I bet you use it for weighing your fat meaty cuntlips

>>19959060
I have a meaty peepee

>>19959031
Because most prepared ingredients yield a particular volume
This is true for powders, as a cup of wheat and a cup of flour won't yield the same amounts in the end
However, no one uses wheat as-is
Shredded cabbage is commonly sold prepared, and easily measured in cups
If you're using a whole cabbage, approximate shredded cabbage with it in cups

Also it's soup, Anon, literally the entry level thing to learn how to improvise and adapt
Taste it and adjust it as necessary to your taste
Measuring by weight won't save your ass with soup unless you're cooking professionally, in which case the system of measurement will still be irrelevant, since your recipes will be locked down and your cooks will still have to know how to adjust no matter what

>>19959086
oh I just thought you were a girl because you sound like a bitch

>>19959087
>If you're...approximate
It's not that that very simple, wartime-like bandaid solution has never occurred to me. It's just that the very simple, peacetime-like presentation of recipes with grams is also something I'm not ignorant of.

>>19959089
yeah...both you guys sound like this...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdL6BjupD1E

>>19959089
Thanks. Do you want to kiss? As someone who isn't a little bitch, your weak-chinned hetero mentality insult where you assume I, like you, am constantly trying to manage the perception(s) others have of me instead of merely living authentically don't work on me. Anyway, do you wanna kiss? I'll even let you lead.

>>19959102
what a pompous fedora tipping little faggot you are

>>19957241
This guy killed his girlfriend while drunk driving

>>19959212
lower your tone

>>19957963
Volume
-Having to guess how much you need to pack ingredients
-"1 Cup of banana slices tehe :)"
-Having to either constantly clean your measuring cup/spoons, using multiple sets of cups, or planning in advance so ingredients do not contaminate each-other
-Good fucking luck trying to measure very thick liquids
-More things to wash
-/+ Works best for liquids, not so much on solids (which is why fluid ounces are standard in cocktails)
+Quick for approximations and recipes where you are expected to adjust


Mass
-Needs a scale
+Can measure directly on the mixing bowl/pot, or any container, even with no container for solids
+Mass is absolute and always the same regardless of how you pack powders
+Can measure both liquids and solids

Personally I only measure when baking, savory cooking is done by eye/taste and measuring everything tells people you do not know what you are cooking

>>19958682
>They don't teach measurements like gill or peck strangely.
We've phased out most imperial measurements that no longer apply to common situations. Nobody goes around using furlongs and chains anymore because most of the populace is nowhere near fields and oxen anymore, they're around city blocks but blocks aren't standardized between different cities (and especially smaller towns) as far as i'm aware so they're still too rough a measurement for common parlance.

>>19959305
>+Mass is absolute and always the same regardless of how you pack powders
>>19959305
>Personally I only measure when baking
This is actually a problem with baking since mass is affected by humidity, when volume isn't as much
Truth is that both systems and both measures require experience with because they both have their faults and only a practiced hand can accommodate for either, and realistically, both
Using measurements is a guide, not a rule, and relying on strict measurements will not yield a better product without experience just doing it over and over and over

>>19959031
The simple fact that it doesn't fucking matter if you're a little over or a little under your target amount of cabbage. As a chef you should be able to just eyeball it and go
>needs more cabbage
>about right amount of cabbage
>fuck, too much cabbage
Putting ingredient amounts for shit other than baking is rough guidelines so that complete cooklets don't panic about how many carrots they should put in their mirepoix. Nobody making meatballs should be measuring out the exact amount of breadcrumbs to the gram for their shit

>>19959093
I grew up using both systems, so for me, I see the usefulness and weaknesses of both
Neither are superior; metric is exceedingly precise, while Customary is more human and relatable
We need both, but God forsake anyone who writes a recipe that interchanges the two (I'm looking at you, India and China)

>>19957241
measuring anything at all is cooklet behavior.

>>19959093
>I am intellectually superior because I weigh out my fucking cabbage before I make soup
Europoors are all genuinely autistic

>>19958088

>>19958189
>liter is french for give me some fucking cola.

>a cup of butter
>a stick of butter
>a square pyramid of butter
>an even sided hexagonal prism of butter
why are they like this
JUST FUCKING PUT IT ON A SCALE

>>19959019
That depends on who is doing the calculations and measurements. Most of the time its meters because smart people do it

>>19959776
>one and a quarter cup of cubed butter
lol

>>19959125
Is that thing that guys do when you break up with them and they forever bother you about loving you but also insult you because they can't decide if they miss you/love you or hate you? I'll tell you the actual solution to that: Be fucking for real. No more lying. Tell the truth. Then you'll never be lost in your own head or in the world again.

>>19959357
>Neither are superior; metric is exceedingly precise, while Customary is more human and relatable
Except you can go from metric to customary, as it were, quite easily. Just look at the precise measure and then measure with your heart instead/in addition. So all recipes ought to include metric at least, no? That'd be better than what one must good the specific gravity of ingredients for in order to convert it to metric.

>>19959608
I'm american.

>>19957241
not having a bread knife

>measuring anything, not going by feel unless you're baking

>>19958528

>>19960037
I literally don't get it

>>19958171
>>Americans are taught both systems in school and regularly encounter and work with both, converting between them with ease

Really? i'm a europoor living in virginia and this has not been my experience

>>19959011
>8 fl oz is weight
You seem like you should probably focus more on weight vs volume than on metric vs imperial lmao

>>19957241
You get filtered by basic math? That's pretty fucking pathetic.

>>19957920
Should have paid for contact lenses.

>>19957258
dammit

>>19961105
>scrubbing my hands trying to get the oil and crud off before i take my contact lenses off
>mfw been scrubbing them for 10 minutes

>>19957927
i have been consistently been putting my chefs knife in the dishwasher for like 6 years now

>>19957981
egotistical retard

>>19960046
hes barfing in the pie because he is sick

>>19958531
>>19958549
you got it, champ

>>19961078
A fluid ounce is the volume of eight ounces of water, retard. You do the same thing with grams and milliliters.

>>19961278
I've always found it bizarre when people criticize Americans for using Imperial. It's not we can't also use metric; literally every measuring cup has oz and ml measurements on it. It's like being called uncultured for speaking more than one language, except in this case it's just a simple matter of doing a basic conversion. It's also weird that they find this so difficult but never seem to bitch about Celsius vs Fahrenheit, which is exactly the same thing.

>>19961310
Oh wait, Fahrenheit is actually "more accurate" than Celsius according to their way of thinking because there are "more numbers" between the freezing and boiling point of water. Now it makes sense why they never bring this up.

>>19958088
Amerilards are too retarded to actually weigh things like the rest of the world, so invented an entire system of weights and measures based around a standardised 'cup'. It's a system for children and the feeble-minded.

>>19961130
is he okay :[

>>19962138
It’s actually based around the ounce. A cup just happens to be 8 ounces which is a useful measure. A pint is 16 oz and a quart is 32. The imperial system is based on the ancient base 4 system. The base 4 system is based on the sacred mathematics of Mesopotamia. Those were algebraic geometry. Base 10 is just mental midget enlightenment shit.

>>19962172
We fucking count numbers in base 10, why measuring in base 4 like retards?

>>19961319
>0F is fucking cold
>100F is fucking hot
why do yuros use inferior measurements like celsius? nobody gives a shit if water boils at 100C

>>19959325
There are a few reasons to be strict besides lack of experience. I used to work at a profesional bakery, things like macarons and a few creams are very sensitive to ingredient ratios, so it is best practice to be as exact as possible, not because a few grams more or less of a single ingredient is going to fuck an entire 10kg batch (even for the so-called "sensitive" preparations), but because if you get complacent you will start making manny small mistakes which will add up into something noticeable. In large batches like this it is better to use mass because 1) it is faster and 2) volume introduces a degree or error with powders (due to the ambiguity of packing) which is multiplied every time you measure, so measuring something like 5Kg of almond four with a standard measuring cup would mean repeating the same mistake around 20 times.

I also remember feeding the myth of pastry chefs needing to be gram-exact at a restaurant I worked at so the others would stop stealing already-measured chocolate. This time not because I feared that it would add up to an important margin or error, but simply because I found it annoying that I was the only station who had people taking pinches from, specially since I always shared the cake trims.

And when working alone I would try to be as exact as possible simply because I was paying for my ingredients and wanted my math to reflect real life. Of course, when cooking for myself I almost never measure, except for cakes, you can't adjust those on the go .

>>19957241

>>19959031
>Not to start an argument but what is the advantage of measuring non-liquids by cup?
you learn how to estimate quantities by eye and judge the resulting mixture accordingly so you can bake without a recipe, just like grandma used to do it.

>>19957920
Just go "my glasses fell into the ocean and now i can't SEA" and they'll all start laughing

>>19962138
>Americans are retarded and invented a measurement system that's older than their country

>>19957981
I only use recipes for ingredient amounts, which I can never be bothered to memorize.

>>19962180
Because it makes aesthetically pleasing pyramids and obelisks

>>19958426
lol i looked it up and that guy is
>a slave
>works 14 hours a day +commuting
>got drunk and ran over his girlfriend (accidently) during a heated argument
>is poor and begs on facebook
>makes a tiktok to flex on the brokies
so just do all that shit I guess.

>>19961113
>put clean glove on
>take lenses out
ezpz

>>19963585
Fair and valid. I think that is something also possible when metrics are used though, so that isn't an advantage of imperial over metric. When one is energetic and diligent, whether you give them all they need or hold back something, they will eventually abide in that same skillfulness. When they are lazy and heedless, they won't. Case in point: all the imperial users who "don't know how to cook".

>>19963890
>I think that is something also possible when metrics are used though
i don't believe so.
metric-only fags are convinced that you can only bake properly if you have a scale, and foam at the mouth in fits of rage every time volumetric measurement comes up.

>>19962172
cell division also happens to be in base 4
metriniggers cannot into reproduction

>>19963898
Well girls and men also say that cooking is hard when there is google and recipes with step by step instructions so easily available that it would hardly be easier if they instructions were beamed telepathically into your brain.

>European brains literally melting because we use verbal shorthand for our measurements
>literally cannot understand what a cup means in the context of cooking