/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>18923215
Earl grey is the only tea worth drinking. Everything else is just a cope.

Drinking some 2002 six famous tea mountains ripe tuo, it's a very interesting tea, quite nice
Lighter fermentation then more modern ripes tend to have

>>18923250
earl gray is flavoured so its not tea sorry

>>18923250
Earl grey is fine, it's just flavored tea.

>>18923252
I remember you reccing it before
how would you describe it?

>>18923215
Greetings /tea/ from the cancer center
Enjoying a brew of jasmine with my drugs today.

>>18923271
It's got brighter tones then most ripes, more woody, very little coca/chocolate. A bit of bitterness but not much. A bit of aged taste. It's pretty distinct from other ripes ive had but ive having trouble articulating it other then saying it's brighter, woody-nutty. Some viscosity, flavor lingers on the tongue. Definitely interesting
>>18923279
Cheers

>>18923279
damn anon, hope you get better. maybe the cha qi will heal you

>>18923064
Damn 2018s are around $60 on YS. That feels like pretty quick market inflation.

No wonder why tea drinkers are dump

What classics should I be drinking?

>>18923474
I drink tea every day and my teeth are browner than a Chinaman's taint but I still get cavities

>>18923279
Get off that shit hospital go full organic diet eat grass fed meat eat organic fruits, train and you will be healed.
I’m praying for you anon

>>18923526
my dude, eating well helps prevent cancer, it doesn't cure it once you have it

>>18923466
There were a couple years there where dayi really jacked up the initial sales price of 7542 and 7572.
Especially 2020 and i think 2021
They seem to have eased up on that now
But yeah the general idea is to find cheaper versions, fullchea has some, puerh shop, look around, the versions that cost $80 aren't going to be any better than the ones that cost $35

>>18923486
You should try a second flush darjeeeling if you havent, some kind of Japanese sencha, if you are into puer you should try dayi 7542 and 7572 at least once.
Maybe an english breakfast blend that's all Indian tea, no African commodity tea that's it's typically made of these days.
A china kemum
A roasted tieguyanyin oolong

>>18923279
Cheers!
>>18923252
I know Six Famous Tea Mountains is a region, but you're referring to a tea factory of the same name, right? I'll put it on the list if you help me find it specifically.

>>18923761
not him, but it's from the awazon store - .pu-erhtea.com

>>18923488
He fell for the old tooth seasoning meme.

>>18923474
Who are the most submissive peoples in the world? Does it involve consumption of fluoride via massive amounts of tea, or added to water? Red teas are the most delicious and healthy.

>>18923565
It does

yes i drink lipton green tea
and i leave the teabag in while i drink it

>>18923973
thats not how cancer works, steve jobs

>>18923970
>who are the most submissive peoples in the world?
I dunno but I drink tons of tea and I'm incredibly sumbissive

>>18923250
fuck off john luke pickerd

is assam good?

>>18923215
Can anyone hit me with a tea based cocktail?

>>18925085
Make strong black tea
Add whiskey to taste

>>18925126
Y/N?

>>18923279
i drink jasmine a lot too, based choice. hope it helps you beat that shit anon. sending u power.

>>18923215
i drink a black tea and vanilla blend as my go to, although a earl grey tea with some lemon as an iced tea is also very nice
>>18923279
hope u get better soon anon

>>18923279
I’m going to drink a health to you (of tea), Anon!

>>18923970
rooibus is my favorite
>good taste
>gives energy wothout caffeine

1)Which one is better infuser, tea bag, reusable steel or reusable polymer?
2)What's best advice for brewing large quantity of tea in an insulated tumbler?

>>18925085
Long Island Iced Tea

>>18925820
>1)Which one is better infuser, tea bag, reusable steel or reusable polymer?
I'd say reusable steel mesh. you want a mesh, not the ones that just have holes. it should also be as big as possible, the more space you have, the better cause some teas need a lot of space to expand

Why are redditors so god damn cringe when it comes to yerba mate. They literally can't answer how much caffeine is in it yet shill people on how much better it is than coffee. I know I got a shit American brand but it's palatable at the very least. It's like they are free labor amazon reviewers that fucking extend to other websites. Jesus christ these people are just making me mad reading their stupid shit. How true is
>1 cup of coffee = 1 liter of yerba
because no god damn shit it's gonna be strong cause you need to drink so much.

>>18925820
>1)
gaiwan > reusable steel. i do not trust polymers
>2)
dont brew in an insulated tumbler, it'll mess up the taste. if you want a lot of tea brewed in one go buy an english teapot and then transfer into an insulated tumbler, you can easily get ones as large as 32 ounce/~900ml

>>18926011
it really depends how strongly you brew it though, not to mention the level of caffeine varies quite a bit
but subjectively I would say 1 cup of coffee = 2 or 3 cups of average medium strength yerba mate brewed the way most people do it. but because it's so easy to just keep hot water in a thermal flask and you can brew it up to like 10 times, by the end of a yerba mate sesh you will be very stimulated

>>18923474
Flouride is really only bad as Sodium Flouride. Regular Flouride passes right through by kidneys and liver into the piss. I would still avoid it, or it in excess definitely to be safe and sure.

Traditional teapots suck because they need a strainer and traditional gaiwans are fucking autistic. I want a 300ml teapot that strains through the lid like a gaiwan.

>>18926135
Sounds like you want this:
http://chatsford.com/

Are pyramidal tea bags a meme?

>>18923279
Wholesome. I hope it's good, mate.

>>18926457
>don't want teapots with strainers inside
>posts a teapot with a strainer inside

>>18926486
Better than flat tea bags in theory, but I've only seen nylon/plastic pyramidal bags. I don't trust them due to the possibility of microplastics.

>>18926135
>teapot that strains through the lid like a gaiwan.
so a gaiwan.

>>18926135
just get a really big gaiwan then. 300ml gaiwans are readily available

>>18926486
>bags
into the trash it goes!

Can you store tea leaves in aluminium foil

>>18924089
>let me tell you about your job

>>18926711
You clearly have no job. Now talk tea or git.

>>18918657
have you tried the Jingmai cake already, anon?

>>18925156
Y

>>18926681
No, just use a ziploc bag

>>18926618
>>18926633
Yes, what I want is a gaiwan, but one that doesn't suck.

>>18926839
They makes these things called easy gaiwans that have a built in filter so you can pour without fiddling with the lid

>>18926813
Yoooooo. This duck shit dan be str8 bussin' dawg. It's got this really lovely peach candy sorta thing going on.

>>18926943
Yeah, dancong is pretty tasty.

>>18926943
>Tyrone discovers Tea
See? Told you it was better than purple drank.

>>18927029
Bruh, got any T that taste like grape drank?

>>18927059
https://youtu.be/zFZ5jQ0yuNA

>>18927079
Awwww shiet.

jingmai miyun 2022 sorry i meant to post this yesterday for that anon but i forgot.. 9.1g in 120ml gaiwan. also slrry im phonetyping this and i dont know how to pace my phoneposting so if its really long sorry
this tea took some time to pick up, 2 infusions after rinse and it was tastable, i brewed it really strong tge whole time becauae it wasnt that enjoyable when weak maybe. its a very returning sweetness/huigan focused tea rather than upfront flavour, but it had a nice short lasting bitterness and the returning sweetness which took some time to come was super strong, cant say if it was more floral or fruity though. there was some astringency but it was barely noticable.
it was nice but ive tasted better, im a bit biased because i prefer upront flavour puers but the farmerleaf guy prefers these types of teas which are more green

>>18923474
I don't think I've ever bought US grown tea

trying some raw and ripe puehr brewed together. 2020 prosblossom and some 2022 snoozefest, both from w2t.
So far they seem to work pretty well together, the shu seems to add a little creamyness which balances out the astringency of the young sheng a little even when brewing it decently strong. It almost tastes a bit like cocao nibs. The cha qi is kicking my ass, but I am brewing pretty strong

>>18927461
thanks anon. I think I'll just have to sample a few cakes from the site before going all in on a full one. might wait a few months for the new spring harvest to see if there's any new decently priced options

What is a legendary tea worth the very high price? Uji matcha made me cream my pants.

>>18927575
not sure what you mean by legendary, but the Yuchi Shan Cha I got a while ago was really great. best black tea I've had so far, totally worth the fairly high price

sipping on some of "That Camphor Cake" from LP
https://www.liquidproust.com/listing/1188363800/that-camphor-cake-400g
It is a aged white label production sheng cake made sometime in the late 1990's to very early 2000's. Very gnarly looking, lots of stems and large misshapen leaves but the tea is undoubtedly well aged. The cake is aptly titled, camphor is its dominant flavor. Reminds me of moth balls and aromatic cedar with earthy and medicinal undertones. Gives me nostalgic vibes of playing in my grandparents wardrobe as a kid. I was not so sure about this tea the first time I had it, but it seems to have grown on me. Definitely, not an everyday drinker or a tea for everyone but I appreciate having it in my stash.

>>18923250
reddit

>>18927737
>camphor is its dominant flavor

There's a nonzero chance you're actually drinking camphor.
That's not good for you anon.

>>18927488
>raw and ripe puehr brewed together
Does this have a name? If not, can we give it one?

>>18926943
I haven't had dan cong in ages but the last one i had had some awesome fruit notes going on.

>>18927860
>Does this have a name?
Ive seen mixed cakes that were just called ripe raw blend.
Yunnan sourcing did one a few years ago.

Time for some old mystery liu an

>>18927800
I am not sure it is literally camphor but it is what is typically referred to as "camphor" in tea tasting. I have had other teas with the same "camphor" note, typically well aged puer made out of coarser material. I should get some pure camphor sometime to compare Even if the "camphor" in the tea is actually camphor, camphor is not toxic at low doses and does not appear to be carcinogenic.

https://efsa.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf/10.2903/j.efsa.2008.729

>>18927916
A couple of the other western vendors have also made raw+ripe blends and I know the there have been at least a few Chinese factory cakes like that. Also, I have heard sometimes HK restaurant puerh blends contain both wet stored sheng and shou, though they probably do that for cost reasons instead of as an attempt at making a novel tea .

What's the deal with Liquid Proust? Small, fancy selection. Tea curiosities. That's their niche? I always feel like there's something I'm missing here.

>>18928181
it's one of those "small, curated selection" sites. the idea is that you trade a wide selection of teas and price points for a more selective approach where the guy running the site chooses everything according to his taste
the guy who runs it is a bit of a weirdo, but he does seem to have a lot of rare stuff that would be hard to get in the west otherwise. I've never bought from him though cause the shipping costs to Europe are atrocious

>>18928181
The niche is that the guy is weird and will hang out in his discord with you. He does get interesting teas sometimes and some decent prices of factory hk storage daily drinker stuff if you happen to check his site in the few days before he sells the case he ordered. But he also is all about fostering a community of customers who buy most things he gets in so they can talk about it together online.

Are there any worthwhile communist-era teas that don't cost an arm and a leg?

>>18928181
>That's their niche?
>they sell puerh plus an eclectic selection of other teas (mostly oolongs)
>small but rapidly changing selection, new teas every month, will restock popular teas and bring in teas people want to try
>sells samples of expensive puerh and aged teas
>sells unique tasting or unusual examples of teas
>often stocks some well priced daily drinker teas, typically from smaller factories or less common productions that are not available from other western shops
>ships from the US, no expensive and slow shipping from Asia
>prices are generally fairly competitive with other western vendors even before shipping

The owner really loves tea and was running the shop as passion project for awhile but I think they are trying to turn it into a full time job if they can.

>>18928311
Old tea is expensive, cheap old tea either isn't old or tastes like shit.
Most looseleaf tea that is sold as old is half the age it claims on the best of days.
You can still find tea from the late 90s and early 2000s that wont bankrupt you. Any older then that and you will pay dearly (usually)
King tea mall has some rough liubaobthat is supposed to be 80s-90s
You can also find rough cnnp fucha bricks and other heicha from the 90s that isint too expensive, its really rough material but its old.
That tea-expert.net guy had one, and king tea mall has some

>>18927949
Wish I had bought more when it was in stock. I really like that tea.

>>18928311
>Are there any worthwhile communist-era teas that don't cost an arm and a leg?
If we are talking classic 1980's and older teas then no, it all costs a ton. You may be a be able to find some 1990's teas that predate the privatization of the factories for relatively more affordable prices but they are debatably still poor value at this point.

>>18926878
With a rusty looking piece of shit like that, which looks like some stray cat has been pissing in for the past decade one would be better off just getting a new one.

Sell that shit to indians or pakis

>>18928311
the 1980s liu bao at King Tea Mall is pretty reasonably priced
any pu-erh that age is gonna be expensive as shit

>>18928401
eh?

Does anyone have a recommendation for an electric kettle/watter heater with temperature control? Something that wont just break/rust after two months.
Available on amazon.de or some other EU store.

>>18928720
bonetiva or stagg, avoid chink glass crap they all leak after a year

>>18928236
>>18928284
>>18928359
That's pretty cool. What's the best way to keep up with new interesting things on KTM?

>>18929210
>What's the best way to keep up with new interesting things on KTM?
I just check his new listings occasionally. He has a YouTube channel where he plays classical music and brews tea without talking.
He was making videos weekly but he seems to have lost interest.
I think he posts on istagram or used to but i don't use it
https://youtube.com/watch?v=PWvB3wSgJsg

>>18923474
I take 50+mg potassium iodide daily, I'm immune to fluoride.

>>18923474
I take 50+mg potassium iodide daily, I'm immune to fluoride

I don’t have a scale
I just throw loose leaf tea into a French press at random
Ask me anything

>>18929436
What's the most expensive tea you've owned in the last year?

>>18929244
The teadrinkers fear the yerba enjoyer

>>18928720
I use a Fellow Corvo. pretty happy with it, all steel construction and the temperature control is much more precise than my previous kettle. it's a nice looking kettle too, though a bit pricy

>>18929951
I've got a relatively cheap but nice all-steel-but-plastic-top one. Temp controlled too. Had it for years now.

I think it's a good compromise because I never brew higher than 90 C°, no boiling = no steam and the plastic never heats up. had to remove the damn filter though since that was plastic.

>>18929988
>had to remove the damn filter though since that was plastic.
those are for blocking steam/vapour so the kettle heats more efficiently/faster

>>18930046
No, it's one of those plastic mesh filters to make sure you don't get limescale into your pot.

You know, these things.

>>18930063
My kettle came with one of, you know, these things. What are they for? The kettle manuals specifically say not to brew inside of them.

>>18930193
>>18930058

Anyone ever puked after drinking strong green tea on an empty stomach? Happened to me this week and it was a bizarre experience.

I googled it after and apparently the tannins on an empty stomach can cause nausea. It never happened before but this time I was puking my guts out

>>18930264
I puked once after washing down like 5 different dietary supplements with a litre of yerba mate

>>18930264
>apparently the tannins on an empty stomach can cause nausea
Oh, that explains some things.

>>18930264
>Anyone ever puked after drinking strong green tea on an empty stomach?
I have to eat something before drinking strong green tea, it gives me nausea on an empty stomach.
It seems like its something that's not uncommon for people to experience.

>>18930264
This doesn't happen with shou puerh, for what it's worth.

>>18930446
yeah shou tends to be gentle on the stomach. it's green teas and sheng that can fuck you up

>>18930264
>>18930317
>>18930383
Weak

>>18930483
Please don't post smug anime tea girls.

>>18930483
based slagposter

please stop they make my pp hard

the puer lesbians are getting excited again

>>18929615
I brew some Chinese imported jasmine tea it was like $18 for a lb
Pretty good
My brews are inconsistent but all good none the less

I ordered another kilo of 2018 V93. It's going to be my office tea.

Thinking of stacking up on my favorite loose tea, some nepalese second flush Kanchanjangha. It somehow struck me. I can only imagine with the quality of the zip-lock the tea can still be considered good decades to come.
Question: Any diehards have a strong opinion against any 30sec->1min soaking? I use a metal strainer and rarely let it pass the two minute mark. I can enjoy a trifle strong assam as well, but rarely divert from this incredibly light, floral and mild nepalese variant I never have fund myself infusing more than once and never diverted from using water still boiling in the kettle. Do you think I'm missing out on something? I have incredibly hard, unfluorinated, tap water.

>>18931036
More than anything you should try and soften your tap water somehow, hard water really mutes the flavor of tea.
Short infusions like that are okay but you might as well brew the same leaves twice or even 3 times if you want to do that.
First brew 1 minute or so, second two minutes, third four minutes (if it's worth doing)
The later brews won't taste the same but you are missing out by brewing the leaves for a short amout of time.
If you want to decide if you think its worth getting some kind of water filter to deal with the hard water buy a gallon of cheap spring water (poland springs is good for this) and try brewing your tea with it to see what the difference in taste is.
I also have really hard water and i got a filter pitcher from pur and that helps a lot, britta ones also work fine.

taking some small branches out from my cup of liubao

>>18931036
It's worth trying softer water, but water hardness affects different tea differently. I've had decent success brewing with quite hard fresh spring water. Where do you buy it? Maybe I'll try some.

>>18931098
Those are pretty big, try biting into one and seeing if it's actually woody. I've seen some big stems in liubao that are still supple and probably desirable.

got this at my asian market.
There was another type with a yellow can that had all the same labels so I'm not sure what the difference was. I picked red because chinese people love red things so surely it's the good shit.
Does it matter if I use a steeper or not with this? I know the traditional way is to not use one, but I like the convenience.

>>18923215
Lapsang souchong tea on a rainy day, rose tea when it’s sunny, earl grey when you need to reset your palate.

I've been making dirty chais lately. Shit's good

>>18931218
If that means you’re adding spirits then that’s a great idea. Even if you’re not…I’m making a brandy chai tomorrow evening.

>>18931243
>If that means you’re adding spirits
No, Im putting shots of espresso in it.
>I’m making a brandy chai tomorrow evening.
What a coincidence, I just bought some brandy last night. I'm definitely gonna do that the next chance I get to daydrink. You think cinnamon whiskey would go well with a dirty chai?

>>18931187
>There was another type with a yellow can that had all the same labels so I'm not sure what the difference was
Yeah I want to know to. The yellow tin is more common for that brand. Were they the same price?

>Does it matter if I use a steeper or not with this?
Do what whichever you prefer, just be careful to over steep it.

>>18931187
>Does it matter if I use a steeper or not with this?
You can brew it however you want.
Asian market tea like that is classic, i think you picked a good brand. Enjoy

>>18923250
This but Lipton Cold Brew

>>18931295
>Were they the same price?
Yup, exact same price.
>>18931296
thanks anon. I just brewed a pot and it is quite good. The fragrance is lovely.

>>18931352
Sure, those verification stickers like the one on that can isn't a guarante that the tea is good but it's mostly being used by the larger more professional tea factories so it's usually a good sign.

>>18930522
Why do lesbian like puerh?

>>18931277
>You think cinnamon whiskey would go well with a dirty chai?
Probably the only way to drink cinnamon brandy. Jesus Christ man. Buy the good stuff. Still, I think you’re on to something.

>>18931384
Maybe I'll craft a concoction of honey whiskey and cinnamon whiskey, and instead of half and half I'll throw in Bailey's

>>18923215
Threadly reminder that:

1. You are getting tricked into paying ridiculous amounts of money for small quantities of tea by online vendors such as Yunnan Sourcing that were deliberately set up to con clueless Westerners.

2. Most Americans who are "into tea" don't even like tea, they just like the aesthetic of being a tea drinker. This is why they are more concerned with collecting fancy teapots than they are with actually drinking it, and they can't go 5 minutes without referencing Uncle Iroh.

3. People who actually like tea don't do tea tastings. They buy a reasonably priced tea from their local market or Asian shop and drink it throughout the day.

>>18931546
Gonna cry?

>>18931557
dumb anime poster

>>18931546
>Most Americans who are "into tea" don't even like tea, they just like the aesthetic of being a tea drinker. This is why they are more concerned with collecting fancy teapots than they are with actually drinking it, and they can't go 5 minutes without referencing Uncle Iroh.
I think you're grossly overrating the number of people who collect yixing pots or whatever
>People who actually like tea don't do tea tastings. They buy a reasonably priced tea from their local market or Asian shop and drink it throughout the day
why are Americans so weird about tea? I've been drinking decent quality black tea all my life, now I just branched out and need to order my daily drinkers online because the pu-erh, oolong and green tea at the supermarket is garbage
broadcasting your supposed unpretentiousness as a virtue is the most pretentious thing you can do

>>18931678
>why are Americans so weird about tea?
I'm not American
>I've been drinking decent quality black tea all my life
Yorksire Gold teabags aren't decent quality black tea
>pu-erh, oolong and green tea at the supermarket is garbage
I've never seen a supermarket that sold oolong and pu'er tea and I'm pretty confident that no such place exists. That alone makes it clear that you have no clue what you're talking about
>now I just branched out and need to order my daily drinkers online
No you don't, you can save a lot of money by buying tea from your local Asian shop, like I already said in my original post that you were too dumb to read properly

nevermind. shan't reply to bait anymore

>>18931768
>gets BTFO
>tries to save face by claiming it's just bait
Oh well, keep thinking that you need to spend £20 per 100g for a "daily drinker". There's a sucker born every minute.

for me it's drinking and enjoying tea

Oh he's just upset his currency is in the fucking toilet. Makes sense.

He is arguing with some strawman he made up instead of reading the threads and seeing how much we like cheap tea here.

>>18931546
>2. Most Americans who are "into tea" don't even like tea
i need large amounts of caffeine to live

>>18931546
And there's nothing you can do about it, faggot :^)

how do you like your Tie Guan Yins, anons? traditional and roasted or modern and green?

>>18932153
Both are good, I like roasted more but it's much harder to find good roasted tie guan yin. Decent green TGY is usually much cheaper.

>>18932153
For me its loosely rolled, moderate to heavy oxidation and a nice medium roast

>>18931546
Teach me, sensei, to not be a a clueless american who actually likes tea.

>>18932153
Roasted oolong is pretty samey but it's what I prefer

linking this budget roasted oolong again, I like it https://www.amazon.com/TIAN-HU-SHAN-Premium-Slimming/dp/B087G345SM

>>18932153
Roasted oolongs are similar but it's what I prefer

>>18932408
Based cheap roast oolong enjoyer

>>18932408
Nice, that brand has an 8 oz box of dianhong for $12, gonna try that asap.
https://www.amazon.com/TIAN-HU-SHAN-Yunnan-Dianhong/dp/B0B4JT5QVG?

>>18932510
thx, will order now

Is canola oil tea?

>>18932609
it's goyslop

>>18932609
Am I the only one who doesn't like black tea?

>>18932320
That isn't your sensei. It's just the fun police.

>>18931546
>that were deliberately set up to con clueless Westerners
> They buy a reasonably priced tea from their local market or Asian shop
lmao local market & Asian shops cost more than ys and co for even more dubious tea
>Uncle Iroh.
rarely even mentioned here

>>18932998
This is my usual tea, it costs £3.50 for 125g at the Chinese supermarket in my city. I have looked through all these online tea vendors and never seen one selling tea for less than £10 for 100g, usually the pricing is closer to double that, then you have to pay a tacked-on delivery and service charge on top.

>>18931080
Softening my water is down the line.. Problem is I live in Denmark where the water is like, the higest in the world or something, so paying for that kind of filtering would be a serious expense so far I've seen.
>>18931158
I actually think this is the reason this tea in particular works so well with hard water, and other, perhaps increasingly interesting ones just get mudded out. I probably will buy a bit bottled water to experiment with. https://nordic-tea.dk/collections/ren-sort-te?sort_by=price-ascending

>>18933042
i've had that, i couldn't stand it, it tasted like smoke which isnt acceptable for green tea

>>18932945
I got bored of black tea and I'm raraly ever in the mood for it

>>18933042
I drink this brand of gunpowder too occasionally, but if you think there is no difference between this and a nice sencha or something, you're retarded.
and tea is cheap too all things considered. even if you drink some very expensive tea it's still probably gonna be cheaper than an energy drink or getting shitty coffee at starbucks. so no, I don't see the problem in paying 10 or 20$ per 100 grams for something I will enjoy much more than plain barebones gunpowder

i recently started drinking more milk tea with cinnamon powder in love with it

>>18931546
Please give us your take on coffee

>>18933563
clearly you're getting scammed if you drink anything other than folger's brewed straight in the cup
and if you actually pay some attention to what you're drinking, you're drinking it wrong, because I say so.

Citrus is the worst flavor profile. All citrusy teas are trash.

>>18933042
This one has a strong earthy almost mushroomy taste. Very strong flavour

>>18933680
Citrusy blacks make great iced tea, anon.

Who the fuck is uncle iroh?

>>18934035
just the most iconic tea-drinker of all time!?!?!?
how can you even post in this thread if you do not even know who IROH is???
these NEWFAGS need to get out of my thread RIGHT NOW!!

Speaking of cheap asian market tea got this tgy today. Its a big cardboard tube with a vac sealed bag inside steeper reviews seem promising. Im hoping is on the heavier oxidation/roast dide of things. I will post the dry leaves in a minute
$10 for 300g
https://steepster.com/teas/wei-chuan/13419-yun-ding-ti-kuan-yin

>>18934101
Smells mellow, color looks fairly promising. im just going to brew some up grampa style and see how it goes. I tried to get the picture as color accurate as possibe. Definitely more green then i would prefer but it's not bright green or particularly vegetal smelling.

>>18934127
Not bad, tastes like a reasonable cheap tgy. Doesn't live up to the premium tgy ive been drinking lately but gets the job done. Brews up a bit scummy but nothing too crazy, leaves are a but rough looking but again nothing too crazy.

>>18934050
Fucking Reddit.

Time for some old bricked yancha i had laying around. I really need some more yancha.

On a related note it looks like Tea Life HK is dead.
Can't say i will really miss them but im a bit surprised.

>>18934345
the guy running the store or the store itself? it had some unique things but he probably didnt enjoy it anymore seeing how long it takes for him to send things, probably had a huge backorder too.

>>18934440
Website is gone, just redirects to some hosting service.
Facebook looks inactive, didn't bother to check other social media pages.
I ordered from him once a few years ago and even with 30% off it was expensive. It was kinda fun to try what he had but yeah it took him weeks to ship. I also wasn't impressed at all with his gimmick of buying tea from big distributors, keeping it in his storage for 6 months and then marking it up 4x and writing overly verbose posts about how great hk storage is.
Im just surprised that he would totally shutter the shop but no great loss.

>>18928720

I've been using this for a year now. The only things touching the water are glass and metal.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08BFMV68M

>>18934506
That price is really decent for temp control, all the big name brand ones have been 2x their old price since bat flu

>>18933680
*blocks your path*

>>18933680
*blocks your path*

Speaking of temp control kettles i found a promising looking no name one.
The interface looks a bit fiddily but its all stainless on the inside with no seams except for the cutout for the temperature sensor.
I would buy it but my current non temp control kettle works fine.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B09ZKHXMG1/

My yancha has arrived

>>18934345
>>18934440
>>18934493
Could be that he just screwed up and forgot to pay the web hosting bill. Could also be the roids got to to his head...

>>18934957
oops forgot links:
https://old.reddit.com/r/forearmporn/comments/uab4u9/gainz/
https://old.reddit.com/user/tealifehk

>>18934035
He's the prodigal son's father.

>>18934881
>yancha
The greatest tea

Why didn't anyone tell me the Farmer Leaf videos on youtube were pure gold

>>18935593
Its in the pastebin, he has some fantastic content, his fake/mislabeled tea video is some of the best tea related content ive seen
https://youtube.com/watch?v=kwvx3yrsyLU

>>18935620
The one "on elitism" made me realize tea anons should be listening to what he is saying.

>>18935629
What did you think about it, anon?

Is /tea/ elitist?

Thoughts? My friend bought this to me and it tastes funny

>>18935710
First off, those sha qing videos are very relaxing to watch. Second, although I think I disagree with William's definition of "snob" and "snobbery," the class of hobbyist he's describing definitely exists. He cleanly defines a line between the two. An elite may have difficulty identifying he is in the elite when the snob acts like an elite better than he can. He draws some understandable parallels to other fields, military and science that I also found enlightening.
However my favorite part of the video is how bloody well he articulates the necessity of a an objective hierarchy existing in the gamut of a product-based hobby. To not be elitist, as defined at the start of the video, is to not show passion and you might as well be drinking grocery store bags. Or worse yet, one might not have that passion and still have the desire to belong to this community of hobbyists, also known the arrogant snob.
There was also some great little snippets of hierarchy of understanding of tea and thinking about sha qing or tea in general as having layers of abstraction to understand. Darn insightful.

>>18935823
Puer teabags can be surprisingly decent in my experience.
Use boiling water, put the teabag in the mug and put an inch or two of water in and dunk the teabag and swirl the water around for like 15 seconds. Then dump out that water and fill the mug normally with the teabag in it. Brew 5 minutes at least or just leave the teabag in and drink when it's cooled off enough. It's definitely a different flavor then any tea you might be used to. Exect chocolate, woody mellow flavors. It usually tastes better then it smells

www.chinaheritagequarterly.org/features.php?searchterm=029_life.inc&issue=029

I pretty much agree, the general vibe in a lot of hobbies is a sort of intellectual nihilism, centered around the trend of anti-gatekeeping. The central desire is to go to the metaphorical buddhist monastery, and to be told that you are already enlightened, that you were always enlightened and that you just need to realize it. Not the reality, that you will be told that you will be spending the next twenty years of your life at least meditating and studying scripture, and maybe then you will become enlightened along the way some time later. 4chan does well both in killing snobbery, there's no face I have to present to this thread, I have no status or persona here so fighting over it or trying to build my status is pointless; and in promoting the necessarily somewhat violent discussion. No one's posts are put above another, there is no system of upvotes or likes to support a rebellion of the underclass, or the anti-enthusiasts. If you have a strong opinion about tea, you have to lay out your argument and be judged on its merits. Almost especially for tea, I think that this format emphasizes the "jianghu" of tea. There really are not clear lines, everyone has their own extremely strong opinion of what tea is, and you can make very compelling arguments for pretty much any of them. Part of tea culture, at least enthusiast culture, is almost as much arguing about tea as it is drinking tea. Forming an opinion, developing it, and then presenting it passionately is part of the fun. I think it's especially enjoyable without the sort of nonsense that comes with forums, and communities that promote snobbery.

>>18935881
Good post

>>18935828
>However my favorite part of the video is how bloody well he articulates the necessity of a an objective hierarchy existing in the gamut of a product-based hobby
Yeah, it's fine to enjoy functional tea but if you cant appreciate what makes a tea special and seek out new teas to give you those experiences then you aren't really actively engaging with tea as hobby

i drink expensive and also the cheapest tea, there's more meaningful things to apply "elitist" than ppl who drink leaf water

if there's any other pissmaxxers in here who could use a reminder app, i started using this one and it's ok https://github.com/veerreshr/WaterApp
sometimes i keep forgetting and need my phone to bother me

>>18936681
Imagine needing an app to drink water

>>18935828
I agree that people who are enjoying my hobby wrong need to be reprimanded and that the womenfolk will destroy everything we hold dear. But I wouldn't have any beef with anyone doing it the right way, whatever it is.

>>18936689
Increasing my water intake makes everything better and somehow a day will go by and all I drank was 500ml

>>18935620
If tea goes full reddit and the redditors do to tea what they did to kava and mechanical keyboards, then we're gonna be paying twice as much for half as much quality. The anathema must be disposed.

>>18936819
tea is already super popular among reddit-tier people and women, they just buy overpriced bagged stuff and herbals and especially boba. They like matcha latte on occasion but thats an old trend.
The tea market already caters and upsells to them, these people are content with it, they don't have the patience to break into the chinese market and if you gave them sencha they'd recoil in disgust. They want to have a colonial aesthetic too, a gaiwan is against their aesthetic.

>>18935823
>FDA-approved puerh
holy dog torture batman

>>18935823
>>18935823
random ripe pu-erh in tea bags can be kind of rough

Found sound loose leaf at my small city (30,000 people) shop. It was in the spices section and not the tea section
I have plenty of decent tea from China, Japan, and India, but I'm interested in the quality of something I can get local. Which should i try first?

Pu'er storage question before I go to bed.
I live in Auckland NZ and I can't figure out if I'm in a humid or dry environment. The outside average RH is 80%+ year round but it's quite cold. Summer gets to about 25C and winter 8C.

>>18937105
You care about the humidity where the tea is, assuming it's indoors, I imagine it would be fairly dry.

>>18935736
not really, its educated though

I need a strainer. Should I get Finum? That's what I've seen people recommend. Or would one that's made entirely from metal be better?

>>18936819
>then we're gonna be paying twice as much for half as much quality
Mate you used to be able to buy lobanzang puer for $30 a cake in 2002 now its $2,000+ for tea from the same gardens, already happened.
All the factory puers that people are complaining cost more than $40 now used to be like $5 a disc.

>>18936948
>english breakfast
>contains china black tea and china kemum
If that's accurate you found that real ass 1600s English breakfast blend, nice
Chai spices seem reasonable, bring a cup of water and a cup of milk just to a low boil on the stove, turn down to a simmer and add around 1 1/2 tablespoons of chai mix, simmer low for 4 minutes, then strain into a
cup

>>18936952
Nice, hope its good
>>18937332
If you don't mind the materials the finium are made out of it has a much finer mesh and will keep dust out of your cup, if you are concerned then the all metal ones are fine. If you search tea infuser basket on Amazon you can find loads of em.

Why is Peppermint tea so calming?

>>18937484
Sone of it is probably a mental association with the Christmas season.
I guess something in mint might have some claiming effects but im too lazy to look into it.
Anyways its good stuff, classic herbal tea

This thread has been a great read.

>>18937484
what's your favorite peppermint tea

>>18937484
>>18937501
I've only had spearmint. Relative to the candy/synthetic flavor, I was pleasantly surprised how earthy it was. Does peppermint have some depth as well? Where can I pick up a few ounces?

>>18937626
Mountain rose herbs is a solid choice for loose herbs like that, grab some lemon balm while you are at it, its in the mint family and tastes great.
Peppermint is tasty but much easier to overbrew, keep infusions short like 60-90 seconds for best taste, or at least that's my experience, you can experiment for yourself.

>>18937626
>>18937658
Mountain rose herbs also has nice herbal tea blends. I would just generally avoid their black / green tea, some of it like the puer is really bad, lots of it is just kind of meh or expensive.
Like the ancient forest black tea they have isn't bad but it's $16 for 4 oz and it's probably similar to
>>18936952
Which is $10 for 8oz

>>18931080
What's the best way to soften tap water?
My tapwater is really hard here and I notice that the tea tastes a bit better when I brew it at my parent's, where the tap water is quite soft.

>>18937710
get a water filter

>>18937710
Water filter, ideally one of the undersink systems that gives you a second tap of filtered water. They run about $100+ you have to replace filters occasionally.
If you can't or don't want to spend that much get a filter pitcher, pur, or brita is fine, you don't need any of the meme ones like zero. As long as you actually change the filters as often as you are supposed to they make a big difference.

Speaking of elitism, this tea is threatening to turn me into an elitist.
It's super good, very gentle roasty, somewhat smoky and earthy, rich and thick. Moderately sweet, mostly dried fruits. I haven't really had a Da Hong Pao like this before, it's very very good.

>>18937874
Drinking good yancha is extremely dangerous. It's just such a high tier tea experience it makes cheap oolongs much less exciting.
I wouldn't drink anything else if i could afford to drink 60¢/g yancha all day.

>>18937957
I'm glad I just finished drinking all my cheap oolong. I don't think I'll post notes for all of these, but I'm looking forward to trying them.
Only had two so far, but based on what I've had I'd highly recommend if you're looking for an assortment of good yancha.

does adding baking soda to kashmiri chai do anything or is it a meme?

Why is roasted grain tea so fucking good, bros?

Suggest me good brands. I want roasted grain tea but I don't know what to buy specifically.

>>18938198
if you want to try some non-korean versions of a similari idea, you could try Polish roasted grain coffee substitute. popular brands include Inka and Anatol

>>18938280
That sounds like it could be very good. Weird that they would call it a coffee substitute. What does it taste like?

>>18938299
genmaicha is green with notes of popcorn and malt. full roasted grain tea like barley is different.

>>18938299
>Weird that they would call it a coffee substitute.
pretty sure it's a "food shortages during war / communism" thing. because coffee was hard to get they tried to make something with a somewhat similar roasted flavor. it's more mild and malty than coffee of course

>>18937710
https://www.ebay.com/itm/403997659622
https://www.ebay.com/itm/112640344297

just cleaned my filters with oxalic acid and baking soda last night, took around 2hrs but i could've done it faster, was preoccupied

it's also possible to go on amazon, buy 3 housings, RO housing, tubing, faucet adapter and a set of replacement filters. i started out with a prebuilt but years later i ended up replacing everything but the housings

>>18938412
They're both cozy and have a roasted grain flavor that other teas lack.

>Purple Cloud got rid of the $50 free shipping
c'est fini

>>18926011
Most sources say 5-10mg caffeine per g yerba or around 400mg caffeine per 50g gourd.
I'm not too concerned with exact numbers cuz 100mg after a week break != 100mg for the 4th time that day.

But you generally put a liter of water through 50g of yerba cuz that's how long the flavor lasts.
1 cup of coffee requires around 14g coffee and a liter is around 4.25 cups so coffee and yerba are pretty evenly matched.

Tea has around twice as much caffeine per g but it makes around 4x more liquid in terms of flavor. (pulled the 4x number from ass)

>>18938572
i think i saw one source say 320mg caffeine per 50g yerba

also yerba is very easy to chug compared to coffee, it's like soda but in a good way

I'm not sure how true this is but I think the more smoked and aged a yerba mate brand is, the more caffeine comes out of the first infusion, and it gives the illusion that it has more caffeine.

Can I get some tea tray recommendations please?
Preferably from either an Australian vendor, or Asian, or Ali Express.
I'm prepared to pay a couple hundred for a nice one, or a cheap one as long as it wont break on me or leak.
Thank you!

>>18937343
cost more than $40 now used to be like $5 a disc
What causes/caused this?

>>18938645
most them serve their purpose well enough.
Something like https://kingteamall.com/collections/tea-tray/products/bamboo-tea-tray-with-water-tank-3-variations-1
could work. I don't know any Australian vendors

Gween Tea

It came with a bag clip. Very good spice/floral aroma, roast and chocolate taste is pretty good. I steeped a 2nd session but stronger right after and it improved. It's a bit like English breakfast to me with a more complex aftertaste.

Maybe unsafe on fasted/empty stomach, I got the nausea. I could've ate a tea biscuit beforehand.

>>18938687
supply and demand. pu-erh quickly gained popularity in the west, so prices soared

>>18938717
0.0000000000001% of anyone in the west drinks puerh.
>>18938687
Puerh in 2007 was the gamestop / crypto of China. It grew 100x in a few years and people went nuts on speculation, it sort of crashed but the market is doing its best to keep riding that high.

>>18938697
wow it's actually green

>>18933042
i drank about 500g of that gunpowder in 2 months for the caffeine and it definitely benefits from very short infusions. you can get all the caffeine out with a decent light flavor that way

>>18938857
sencha be like that

I have a hankering for some pu-erh. Which one should I have? I'll post some tasting notes.

First to reply gets to pick. :D

>>18938917
Camphor tuo

>>18938917

Anyone ever use binchotan or bamboo charcoal purified water? It makes an impressive difference giving the water a sort of sweetness. Lovely for rice as well.

>>18938921
Okay!

>>18938927
Yeah, I actually wasn't that impressed. I still have a fair amount, but I can't be bothered to use it. Maybe I'll try some recipe water and compare it at some point.

>>18938973
Huh.. I've always noticed a really nice improvement with my water. Were you doing small jars? They say 1 piece only does about 22oz of water.

>>18938990
Yeah, I was doing exactly what you were doing, liter mason jars.
I might have been starting with better water though.

these mfs be tasting water, frfr, no cap

>>18937484
menthol is a weak GABA agonist

On my third brewing right now. The tea is quite nice, but I'm a lot more used to formulating alcohol tasting notes, so the subtlety is quite challenging to verbalize.

>>18938992
When I was in a city with pretty awful water(san jose, ca) the improvement was a lot more noticeable than with my well water now also.

It seems to take out some of that not so nice minerally taste that my water has. A bit purer and the sweetness. I remembered the same thing years ago when I was in san jose.

>>18938995
Water makes a massive difference when brewing tea and coffee. I guarantee you that I could show you a major flavor change if I used good and bad water to make you espresso.

>>18939026
my solution was buying pleated filters, adding in an extra 20" sediment, and rinsing them out with sink hose daily, using oxalic acid and baking soda weekly
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00D04BJQC/
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00D04BFDY/

the water supply is completely fucked and keeps getting more fucked every day https://banned.video/watch?id=63ebfc80048d7e3373a5139a
I think 10% of the US population is gonna get sick as a result of picrel.

also notice how after the ohio river was completely contaminated in the biggest chemical disaster in US history, there's a flurry of news articles telling you to drink the water and it's safe & effective

honestly just spend the $90 on the RO set

>yerba mate when at home
>white tea thermos brewed when away from home
>fucha when eating greasy food
I think I've come up with the ideal minmaxxed setup

>>18939044
There was a movie made about exactly what happened that was made roughly where the spill happened in Ohio. Before the spill of course.

Okay, this review may dissapoint some, but it has been a while since I have had puerh. I'm going to have another session with a different ripe puerh to get a little perspective.

Aroma of the tea lid was quite strong. Third and fourth brewings the typical forest floor aroma came out more, but it was subdued. Exotic wood, old books, incense. I liken it to stumbling across a temple in the rainforest made of exotic woods that had old scrolls and incense within.

Taste: nicely sweet and creamy mouthfeel, the typical puerh taste was subdued somewhat and that incense and woodsy flavor is present with maybe some dried fruit along with it. Had about 6 or 7 brewings.

I really enjoyed it.

>>18939120
Oh yeah I should also mention that I used 5g of tea in my 150ml teapot. I left the cake intact and allowed it to break up on its own, progressively. Is that about right?

Next up is this younger ripe. Name sounded cool.. I usually prefer raw puerh, but we havin some fun this evening.

>>18939161
Okay... I can't read. I blame the cha qi. Going to try this one instead.. I like saying bingdao it's kinda funny.

I had to stop at 3 brewings of this one. I'm getting woozy.

I have to say that after trying a younger puerh the difference is quite noticeable. This one was noticeably less nuanced, and did not have that exotic sort of taste to it that made the old one so nice.

This one had that forest floor and a dried fruit flavor at the forefront woth a nice sweetness, but fairly simple compared to the older. Still quite nice tho.

>>18939120
Sounds good to me

>>18939125
>. I left the cake intact and allowed it to break up on its own, progressively. Is that about right?
Yeah that's fine, sometimes i will break it into a cople smaller chunks if the compression is super heavy, biut as long as the check eventually separates while you are brewing you don't need to mess with it further

>>18939290
Interesting, yeah i find ripe is very drinkable right away and the difference with age maybe isint as dramatic as raws but ive had some older ripes recently that have been quite enjoyable and had some nice complexity to them. I'm not sure how much of that is age and how much is a difference in the quality of the leaf used but it's definitely noticeable

>>18938198
These are the two brands I buy. The both offer corn and barley teas that have S. Korea's organic certification. I always get the big 10g bags which are the right size to brew a quart jar full of tea (and maybe a resteep). I don't know where to best buy them online because Amazon does not have the full selection of either brand. Normally I buy them locally at an Asian food store but it looks like there are other shops online that carry them.

Sempio Sunjak
https://www.amazon.com/stores/page/0DD1ED26-0A45-4F99-B2E2-70418D960545
They do make the 10g bags i like but don't sell them on Amazon.

Chung jung one
https://www.amazon.com/Organic-Corn-Sugar-Free-Caffeine/dp/B0875X2DMM
This brand does not have an official Amazon store.

>>18939556
Corn and barley teas are good hot, cold, or cold brewed.

>>18938725
I'd like to read or listen more into this bubble.

>>18939716
I don't have a huge amount of info about it, Puerh Caravans and Urban Chic is as always a good overview. I've actually been meaning to do some semi-serious research about exactly this topic and compile a small sort of overview of the time, since it was so formative in terms of the state of modern puerh. There's a few fairly authoritative and contradictory sources, so I'm not sure how well it will go, but I think it's worth doing a 1990-2010 overview of puerh.
http://www.marshaln.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/Yu-The-Authentic-Taste-of-Puer-Tea-and-Transnational-Interests.pdf
This touches on it too, more about the differences between aged sheng and shou but it's worth throwing in the reading list at least as a background perspective to the market forces involved.

>>18937625
Standard Pure Peppermint tea. Loose or bagged it’s still really good. Spearmint and Wildmint is really great too. Lemon balm is great aswell.

>>18937625
https://www.amazon.com/Yerba-CBSe-Argentina-Green-Natural/dp/B001UKSOAW/

>>18937625
https://www.amazon.com/CBSe-Hierbas-Serranas-17-6oz-Pack/dp/B00XNM8DMO/

>>18939784
https://www.amazon.com/CBSe-Hierbas-Serranas-17-6oz-Pack/dp/B00XNM8DMO/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?crid=1FJECUX15UZK8&m=A104PMC4QBGNZ8&qid=1676436256&s=merchant-items&sr=1-1

>>18937625
https://www.amazon.com/CBSe-Hierbas-Serranas-17-6oz-Pack/dp/B00XNM8DMO/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?crid=1FJECUX15UZK8&m=A104PMC4QBGNZ8&qid=1676436256&s=merchant-items&sr=1-1

So I haven't drank tea for a while.
I have loose leaf from David's that's almost a year old. Should I get new tea or drink this old shit?
fyi it's matcha(forgot which but not ceremony), black tea, and rooibos.

>wonder why my earl grey lately has been really strong despite being only steeped for 3 minutes
>realize i've been pouring the water as soon as It's ready which is basically a rolling boil

Had some GABA oolong from Taiwan Tea Craft. Never had a GABA tea before. Tastes like a TGY with all of the bitterness/astringency taken out.

>>18939907
Nothing wrong with old tea. The matcha might be a bit underwhelming is all.

This is my tea I make every morning:
>one bag green tea
>one bag chamomile tea
>mix up loose leaf valerian, damiana, passionflower and lemon balm into an infuser and add to cup
>manuka honey 1 teaspoon
>spritz some lemon peel and add to cup

in the evenings I do the same with extra bag of chamomile and no green tea

>>18940134
yeah that sounds about right. they also tend to taste slightly sour if you brew them really strong

I’m growing mint cause it grows where I live abundantly. How good is fresh Peppermint and Spearmint tea?

>>18940491
To be honest with you, it's not particularly better than dried

铁观音
nothing else

>>18940219
Does it taste good?

>>18940134
how boring

has the anon that ordered the sample pack from yiwumountainteas gotten it yet? thinking of getting a puerh + oolong sample pack too

>>18941066
Yea, I only had the Dahongpao dark roast so far. Will try another tonight.

>>18940134
interesting, I'm sipping on a different GABA oolong (unroasted) and it doesn't really taste like a TGY to me
it's got more of a "cinnamon, vanilla and pears" kind of profile, with maybe a slight "autumn leaves on the ground" thing going on as stupid as that sounds. I agree with no bitterness though, perfect tea to brew grandpa style for this reason
I've had one other unroasted GABA before and it was fairly similar, but more creamy, a bit more sour and with apple instead of pear. I actually think they were pretty unique from all the other oolongs I've tried

>>18941296
thanks those look like some really solid teas, was that the daily drinker or premium quality?

>>18941714
daily drinking

Am I retarded for being lazy and paying extra to get my tea in tea bags instead of loose?

>>18940331
poor Porthos

>>18942154
He got better and is back to urinating on sacred trees.

>>18942149
Probably
You can get big open teabags you can just dump a spoonful of tea in and stick in your mug

>>18942168
I guess if I settle on buying a particular tea I might do that, I feel like if I'm changing teas regularly though a reusable tea-bag thing would eventually get flavored by the team I'm making in it.

Finishing off an old sample of a 2013 puwen cake from tea-expert.
I never expect much from puwen since their tea is usually super cheap but this is a really tippy blend and just tastes like a nice super sweet factory puer. Easy buy if you want a nice sweet daily drinker and its reasonably cheap still.

>>18942178
You can buy boxes of disposable single use teabags, they are long so the open part sits over the edge of the mug, box of 100 should be a couple bucks

>>18942178
>>18942341
Or one of those metal tea infusion things.

>>18940754
>simplified chinese
smoothbrain

>pick random tea from recommended site
>described as "inexpensive"
>$160/lb
>meanwhile teas i drink from amazon are $25 a lb

how much are you paying for your tea, /ck/? be honest.

>>18942472
What tea is $160lb?

>>18942490
500g = 1 lb
https://sevencups.com/shop-category/green-tea/

>>18942472
Depends, naturally, but in general I like my daily drinkers well under 10 cents per gram. If I'm buying nice cakes, I've gone as high as 20, maybe 25 cents per gram.

>>18942497
Oh yeah sevencups offers some really high end teas. They have some stuff that's like $1200 per lb.
Generally the teas they are selling are priced at the higher end of market rates for those specific teas but they are reasonably representative of the market prices of higher end offerings. I don't think anyone on /tea/ is ordering large quantities of tea from them. In fact im not sure if anyone here is ordering from them at all.
Anyways i typically spend 10-20¢ per gram on teas, maybe up to 40¢ per gram but i typically drink several kilos a year of 10¢ per gram stuff and maybe a couple hundred grams a year of 40¢ per gram stuff

new thread incoming

>>18923215
new
>>18942559
>>18942559
>>18942559