/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>18614938
Sounds interesting

>>18614938
Keep us posted anon

>>18614938
That's a bad experiment. Weight of meat always decreases after cooking. Better experiment is to debone the raw chicken then weigh the raw bones.

HOW TO DEBONE A CHICKEN LEG:
https://youtu.be/qtaZwLlfcPU

578 grams of chicken is going into the pressure cooker I'll the meat falls off the bone.

>>18614970
>Weight of meat always decreases after cooking.
That's okay I only eat cooked chicken anyway.

>>18614938
>>18614972

I did this with chicken wings to make stock. I was curious how much meat I would get, it was irrelevant since i was making stock so the meat was just a bonus but for 1kg of wings I got 300g of meat.

>>18614938

>>18614938
This is dumb because you also have to factor in how much stock you get from those bones. Unless you're a plebs who just throws his bones away.

>>18615075
>throws his bones away
Sort of. They go in the garden compost and eventually get ground up.

>>18614974
You aren't buying cooked chicken by the pound tho. Your experiment is pointless from the start

>>18615101
I'm not charging for my labor either.

>>18615085
Ah ok, so the experiment just has to factor in garden yield with vs. without bonemeal compost.

>>18615120
That is outside the scope of this thread.

>>18614938
That's still stupid cheap even if they're one day off the sell-by date.

>>18614938
You could've just make a dish out of it by weighing all the other ingredients and taking them out of the equation. this is wasteful

>>18615156
>this is wasteful
Why are you trying to muzzle the truth?

>>18614970
He can just weigh the cooked chicken, then weigh it without bones you fucking retard. The bones will be a percentage of the total weight and his calculations can move on from there.

>>18615227
>and his calculations can move on from there
What does this even mean? No they can't? Wtf are you saying?

>a raw chicken leg is approximately 27% bone.
https://perfectlyrawsome.com/raw-feeding-knowledgebase/bone-content-in-raw-meaty-bones/

>>18615156
Why wouldn't OP eat the chicken after the experiment?

>>18615227
Let's say 50% of the weight was bone, so he is paying $0.44 for meat and $0.44 for bone for each pound. Adjust accordingly for whatever the actual percentage is. Are you sure you're old enough to post here?

>>18615240
I responded to my own post this is for you
>>18615301

>>18614972
You know a lot, or probably even most, of the weight being removed is going to water and not just the bone right? If you want to calculate the weight of chicken vs bone you need to separate them with a knife before cooking, not after.

>>18615323
its going into a pressure cooker, it's a sealed environment, he can weigh any liquid left in the cooker minus any added liquid to get it up to pressure and that will show how much water weight has been lost.

>>18615337
And what about all the liquid that gets turned into steam you fucking moron

>>18615343
are you pretending to be retarded?

>>18614970
Who cares about the weight of evaporated water from the raw meat? Cooked meat gives you a better estimate of edible yield from the cut.
Also he can just weigh the bones so you faggots can stop seething about muh weight losses

>>18614938
I'll save you some time: about 20 percent by weight is bones.

>>18615353
Do you know what makes the pressure in a pressure cooker? The account of water converted to steam is not negligible

>>18614970
if you weigh the bones and the meat then deduct that from the raw weight you will get the amount of water lost. dumbass.

>>18615363
>Do you know what makes the pressure in a pressure cooker?

Constant oversight by middle management?

>>18615365
yes how do people struggle to figure this out

>>18615363
did you miss the part where i said "minus any added liquid to get it up to pressure" regardless even if he added no water when the cooker cools the moisture will condense. the only way moisture can be lost from a pressure cooker is if pressure is prematurely released from the vent valve before it has cooled. fucking dumb retard.

>he doesn't eat his bones

>>18615301
t. retard with no understanding of density variation between different materials and the effect of heat.

You are the reason chemistry lessons should be taught at primary level.

>>18614972

how much of this weight is the pot

>>18615383
My method is perfectly fine for figuring out OPs original question. We aren't launching the chicken on a rocket into space.

>>18615024
>wasting wings
use backs and feet

>>18615437
i used wings because they have more skin overall so more flavour from browning. plus i can't buy feet or backs here.

>>18615405
Zero

>>18615405
Digital scales typically have a "rezero" option that allows you to cancel out the weight of the vessel from the total weight of the vessel and its contents.

Not sure what anybody here is trying to determine with their personal take on the procedure.
I would think the goal was to help comparison shop by being able to compare bone-in vs boneless meat.
So OP would be better off using breasts or thighs since you don't normally buy buy wings or drumsticks boneless.
And obviously cooking would fuck up this process.
He should debone whatever he's using and weigh the bones.

Cartilage and skin

I didn't add any water this is just moisture from the chicken and condensation on the inside of the pressure cooker.

>>18615628
Only 40% of the raw weight was meat.

>>18615646
12 grams vanished
Must have been the chicken's souls.

These yields would vary by the cut of meat of course.

>>18615660
Your soul stays in the body until you're cooked? Please be wrong.

>>18615660

>>18615405
doesn't matter, you tare it

>>18615628
I say if you can get boneless skinless chicken thighs for under $2 a pound it is a better deal. If only 40% is meat the real prices for 88 cent drumsticks is $2.20 per pound!

>>18615687
>Please be wrong.
Don't worry.
Only chickens and polar bears have souls.
If you're human, when you're gone you're gone.

>>18615749
>88 cent drumsticks is $2.20 per pound.
Per pound after cooking.
OP's efforts are in vain as far as price comparisons go.

>>18615632
How are you measuring the steam you fucking retard? All you had to do was cut the meat off the bone before cooking and weigh them. 5, 10 minutes tops. There was no reason to over complicate it and do all this shit, all you accomplished was making the measurement inaccurate and wasting literally everyone's time with your faggotry.

>>18614938
Good experiment

>>18615605
just a couple of retards trolling because they hate good OC
as if we need a nth goyslop MSG airfryer youtuber post instead

>>18615781
oh shut up you stupid cunt

>>18615781
He also wasted the meat.
Who the fuck wants drumstick meat off the bone?

>>18615808
>trolling because they hate good OC
There's nothing good about this OC. The numbers he produced are pretty much useless.

See:
>>18615770
>Per pound after cooking.
>OP's efforts are in vain as far as price comparisons go.
>>18615781
>All you had to do was cut the meat off the bone before cooking and weigh them. 5, 10 minutes tops. There was no reason to over complicate it

Looks like OP is popping a lot of bubbles with this thread.

>>18615830
Seethe

>>18615830
For your purposes you only want the weight of the raw meat

For other anons' purposes they might want to know the cooked weight, liquid content, and lean meat yield. All these are useful numbers to know.

>>18615781
You sound like a chicken drumstick bag holder.

>>18615660
Does this mean that if I'm buried after death my soul will remain trapped in the casket for hundreds or maybe thousands of years? I better make sure I get cremated.

>>18615830
>cut the meat off the bone
Jew! Look everyone I found the jew!

Good Job OP
You're making the Poultryjew seethe.
Watch your back from now on though.

>>18615854
>popping a lot of bubbles with this thread.
Name one.

>>18615883
>All these are useful numbers to know.
Nope. They're utterly useless, since I can't compare his numbers to anything else. I can buy boneless breasts for $2 per pound. How does that compare to OP's 88¢ drummers? Nobody fucking knows (thanks OP). I've never heard of anyone buying or otherwise measuring meat in after-cooked weight, except in this thread.
OK, so how does this compare to any other meat (post cooking)? Nobody fucking knows.
OP might as well have figured out what a breath of wind weighs, or the weight of a baby's sobs.
Utterly useless.

>>18615903
Unless you're a Mormon, Quaker, or Mennonite your soul is hell-bound anyway.
Better to just rot in the grave.

>>18615907
>Jew! Look everyone I found the jew!
Fallen Catholic actually, but sure, close enough, I guess.

>I've never heard

>>18616203
>Mormon, Quaker, or Mennonite
One of these things is not like the other

>>18616240
None of them are similar as far as protestant sects go

>>18616265
Quakers and Mennonites are pretty similar
>anabaptist
>pacifist
>opposed to hierarchical structure

Mormons have magic underwear

>>18616273
>>18616265
>>18616240
IT DOES NOT MATTER!!!!!
I AM THE LORD THY GOD, AND THESE FAITHS ARE THE ONLY ONES THAT PLEASE ME!!!!!!!
ALL OTHERS MUST BURN FOREVER IN THE LAKE OF FIRE!!!!

>>18616203
is 33 too late to convert? Is Catholicism close enough to sit in the back at heaven or something?

>>18616195
>I've never heard of anyone buying or otherwise measuring meat in after-cooked weight, except in this thread
just because you're an ignorant retard doesn't mean the rest of the world is
>google cooked vs raw meat weight
>50.9 million results

>>18616351
According to the Catholic Church, you can convert on your deathbed, but you have to be sincere. Good luck with that.

>>18616355
>just because you're an ignorant retard doesn't mean the rest of the world is
So sorry, maybe I wasn't clear. I CAN'T FUCKING BUY ANY MEAT BASED ON POST-COOKED WEIGHT.

And let's not forget: I AM THE LORD THY GOD, AND BLASPHEMERS WILL SUFFER MY WRATH!!!!

>>18616355
>>google cooked vs raw meat weight
>>50.9 million results
Google "rimjobs", 72 million results.
What was your point again?

>>18616381
>I CAN'T FUCKING BUY ANY MEAT BASED ON POST-COOKED WEIGHT
The numbers are so one can figure out the yield of lean meat, skin, and chicken juices to calculate how much raw or bone-in meat to buy

>>18616387
Did anyone say
>I'VE ONLY EVER HEARD ABOUT RIMJOBS IN THIS ONE (1) THREAD, REEE
?

take your meds

>>18616403
>calculate how much raw or bone-in meat to buy
Jesus, you're an idiot.
Like anybody who's ever cooked anything, I already have a good idea of how much I need based on PRE-COOKED WEIGHT, because it's the only measure anyone ever uses.

And super obviously, if rimjobs are more popular than OP's numbers, maybe he could help the world more by licking someone's asshole, rather than starting an utterly pointless thread?

>>18614938
>>18614970
the bone weighs the chicken

>>18617122
>just... yknow... do
>do not question
Ngmi

>>18617199
Wow, what a succinct argument!
Such logic! Much thoughtful!
So glad you're here posting!

I got thighs. I can try the same experiment.

>>18617734
Jeebus, no.
Just de-bone them and tell us what percentage of the pre-cooked weight is bones.
Any other numbers are irrelevant.

>>18617783
Fuck you

>>18617734
Try it

>>18617787
>Fuck you
Blow me.
>>18617787
>Try it
FUCK NO.
No matter what, PLEASE give us the only numbers that really matter: what percentage of the uncooked product is bone, and what percentage is meat.
Then go ahead, cook it, cum on it, wrap it in tinfoil and run over it with a car. None of that shit matters.

>>18617734
Damn, that’s a good price

I use chicken drumsticks for making chicken stock because they are so cheap. Roast them in the oven then simmer in water. That's their best use.

>>18615024
wings are better but more expensive

>>18617910
Grocery outlet

>>18617734
>voice activated chicken

>>18614938
lots of people mad ITT. OP i think you may have stumbled upon some kind of globalist plot

>>18614938
>>18615301
Even if the bones are are half or a third of the weight, you're missing out if you don't get all the marrow.

>>18615781
>How are you measuring the steam you fucking retard?
How are you so fucking retarded you can't even figure that out?

>>18618068
Never heard of it

>>18618068
Bargain market

>>18614938
Yes, chickens are growing bigger bones, and meat that is mostly water, quantity not quality.

>>18615301
You would be right if OP's question was "I wonder what percentage of uncooked chicken is bone"
but it is not, you're just being reddit about it.

>>18615903
yes, obviously. normal people are stuck rotting in the ditch. the only passage to Valhalla is to perish in battle. also why they light the funeral ships. people have known this since the beginning of time.

>>18618606
I stopped seeing reddit everywhere when I got off that site anon you should try it too

>>18618313
it's just one guy

>>18619051
you're the third

Hang on to your butts.

Same experiment with 4 chicken thighs.

>Not grinding the bones down into a meal and adding with pea starch to make a tasty healthy slop, and donating the cooked meat to a poor Ukranian family

>>18615323
You weigh the bones and deduct that from the initial weight.

>>18615632
i would drink that

>>18620125
Was it really so bad that he got two scoops instead of just one?

Meat

Thigh bones

Thigh skin and cartilage.

I figured out where the missing weight went from the last batch. I was absent-mindedly nibbling on meat as I was taking it off the bone.

>>18620525

>>18620525
You’re cute doing all that :)

Who needs a Tutorial to debone chicken legs??? I just put my mouth around the whole thing, leaving just a little bit of cartilage for me to hold onto as I shlorp down the chicken meat. Then I flip it around and do it again to make sure the bone is clean

1kg of boney whole chicken gives at best 400g of raw meat, discarding the skin, fat and bones, and only the bones are usable unless youre jewish and use the chicken fat.

This is a rough estimate, and its true for both legs and thighs (legs being a massive pain in the ass to debone. Too much cartilage and silver skin. Thighs are finnickier to debone though).

Source: poorfag who needs to know this shit if I want to eat for the next week.

>>18615405
You dumb idiot

>>18620717
It's pretty easy for me to separate meat after it's cooked I just squish it through my fingers.

>>18615660
>>18615701
Beat me to it.

>>18614938
State agricultural extension offices are your friends. Texas has you covered here.
https://posc.tamu.edu/wp-content/uploads/sites/20/2012/08/l-2290.pdf

Other states have references on growing local foods, yogurt making, etc. Very underrated resource, most of the employees there would be happy to get a call from a hobbyist.

>>18615781
>steam
>weight
it wouldn't float if it had weight retard

>>18615646
I always wanted to do this with pork ribs but I always forget.

>>18619051
>it's just one guy
that's quite the conspiracy to think that this can all be done by just one guy

>>18615660
anon you just contributed to the heat death of the universe. it will never get back the energy you destroyed with this experiment.

>>18620837
>it wouldn't float if it had weight retard
stuff like steam has a negative weight but you already knew that already didn't you

>>18620525
>I was absent-mindedly nibbling on meat
Jesus, OP.

>>18620827
Your PDF shows what I was saying all along.
You can't use OP's data to compare prices of bone-in vs boneless chicken parts because you can't tell the pre-cooked weight of the meat by weighing it after it's been cooked.

>>18621405
I'm not OP.
Here, have another chicken pic.

>>18621576
chicken?

>>18618068
>Gross Me Outlet

>>18617233
Stop talking like a Redditor and stop getting angry about a thread about chicken meat.

>>18621686
I'm not mad about chicken meat.
I'm not even mad.
I'm disappointed OP has produced such a useless experiment.
I'd rather live in a world where people were a little smarter.
OP's a disappointment, and proves that I live in a slightly stupider world than I thought I did.

p.s. I picked up the outdated "doge" lingo from the 4chins, and have never been to reddit.
Such wow.

>>18615756
But also consider that you can boil the drums to make a good stock and still yield all that meat

>>18621839
I have a better broth than boiled bones.

HOW WILL ANY OF YOUR NUMBERS MATTER IF THE STORE ONLY LISTS THE PRICES OF UNCOOKED DEBONED CHICKEN INSTEAD OF WHATEVER THE FUCK YOU'RE MEASURING. THIS IS AN INCREDIBLY USELESS EXPERIMENT

>>18620717
>poor
>discards fat and bone instead of fortifying a sauce with it for extra nutrition
your useless brain is why you were poor

>>18621900
I'm glad you asked.

>>18621911
it was less of a real question and more of a rhetorical you're a fucking retard

>>18621959
Hi, would you like to use punctuation?

>>18621981
Kek. The new Word sucks

>>18621571
OP may have a good point in that cooked meat weight is sometimes needed, but I think most caloric information is determined from raw weight. However, the cooked number is only going to be useful for that specific brand that specific season, because chicken diets can change to increase/decrease water retention.
Not saying you're wrong, only that OP is probably collecting data he can't put to use.

>Sanderson Farms

Is just product declared sub-par by Tyson that's been packaged with a different brand and with a lower price.

That's why it's cheap.

>>18621981
(you)

>>18617159
kek