/ck/ - Food & Cooking

omg we had the same idea i'm sorry.

only together can we defeat retardfaggot-sama

coldbrew, timemore, aeropress gang!

>>18366670
for me, it's one of these things

e61 > cloth and bucket > meme press

don't mind me. just posting a work of art

AEROPRESS GANG
NOT A MEME
NOT A FAD

>>18366670
Based
>>18366674
Based if it's not cold brew

>>18366769
Of course not, silly

Now with X-Pro support.

>>18366778
Fuckin a !!!

>>18366807
>no rok
does that not count as a hand grinder, like its a manual grinder but i guess you dont actually hold it in your hands.

>>18366762
Don't store your aeropress with the seal in the chamber. Push it all the way through.

>>18366948
Shit tier burr that noone sane would rec in 2022. Similar geometry to the $50 timemore/heihox/remi conventional but 48mm. Back in 2015 people were ripping it out and sanding down the baratza virtuoso burrs. Baratza will be selling the those burrs for $199 in the encore ESP soon, so its in a weird spot with the market being fucking saturated by scaled chinese clones of great burrs. If you're physically disabled to the point of not being able to use a normal hand grinder and can't make noise while grinding coffee maybe its an option?

>>18366807
So what's the best value grinder here? J-max?

>>18367014
Why? It gets used multiple times a day........not like the silicone is gonna harden up

>>18367027
Absolute value probably kingrinder k3 at $119. Clone of a clone of a Kinu. Great allrounder burr set thatll do traditional/modern espresso and filter just fine. Spending more money is going to get you better build quality, finer adjustment, or different burrs. Kin was started by 1z employees and they buy parts from them so its probably all taiwanese/chinese money laundering in a rapidly expanding market. It all depends on your taste and the coffee you're trying to make though. If you trust a soytuber here's some tasting notes.
https://youtu.be/JySL64iigT4?t=2622

New to pour over, how's my drawdown?

>>18367052
It will compress and you won't get a good seal and it will start blasting hot coffee around the seal as you press.

>>18367091
Looks good. Hows it taste?

>>18367119
Very good. Took a bit to find a good grind size, and my grinder sucks, but I think I found a good spot.

So I started my espresso journey with a flair 58. I did some research what was the best I could get under 500 euro's and didn't use too much counter space. I don't mind to use some elbow grease, so the flair 58 sounded to me like a good option. I already had a df64, so reasonable grinder.

After trying and trying. Most of my espresso shot were pretty horrible. Dialing in was not straight forward, and same of everything mostly didn't end up the same results. I guess because I will still influence the pressure too much. I use the stock filter and I wdt before tamping.

Now I on the fence if I should sell the thing, and buy a small fully electric espresso machine (bambino or alike). Or just put it aside, buy a small espresso machine to get up to speed and than switch over to the flair. (And maybe sell the other machine)

Please help me decide

>>18367185
What coffee are you using and what kind of profile are you going for? I'm pulling great shots on a f58 right now.

>>18367096
Hmmmmm.... I've been storing it like this for two years or more. Are you speaking from experience?

>>18367096
I do appreciate you telling me, I never thought of it

>>18366807
I'm just saying for french press you really don't need anything better than a K1 or a timemore. Should be rated by use case imo

>>18367365
Yep

I buy local pre-ground coffee and I make it in a french press. Six tablespoons of grounds to two cups of coffee. Then I mix it with heavy cream and a teaspoon of sugar. And finally I load it up into an enema and shove it in my asshole.

what am i in for?

also, coffee bros costa rican beans were delicious. blk and bold's limu was good but a bit too fruity. all cold brewed :D

>>18367392
I don't buy coffee with more than three tasting notes. hth

>>18367365
Do you see anywhere on that chart am I recommending specific grinders for specific brewing methods? Its just a broad compilation of specs so you can see were different price points land you and where that money is going. If you want to make an addendum where you pair specific grinders for various budget setups, go for it.

>>18367403
I am* FUCK. I hate when I mentally edit a sentence while I'm typing the next one and fuck up the syntax. But yeah. You drink that frech press every day. If you were going to cheap out, why not just boil cafe du monde on the stove for a few minutes and save the $20?

>>18367403
Don't need to throw a hissy fit about it lmfao. Just doesn't seem very useful to the intended audience besides pushing most into getting $200+ grinders that might not match their use case.

>>18367403
>>18367411
You really are retarded lol

>>18367420
You're looking at a spec sheet and you're upset that its not a subjective list, and also if it was a subjective list you want your timemore ranked highly.
>>18367420
>might not match their use case
I deliberately avoided assuming anyone's use case. You're assuming everyone who reads it only has $50 to their name and wants to french press for some reason.

>>18367392
>washed

When you're grinding coarse for an extended immersion brew like your standard french press, its important to choose a burrset that will produce the most fines and make through the metal mesh and into your cup.

>>18366635
Do you guys know anyone who drinks coffee before bed? Why, and how do they do that?

>>18367507
make sure they're clean

>>18367543
I used to when my depression overpowered the caffeine. The anxiety maybe amplified the desire to shut down and drew me in to oblivion.

>>18367521
medium to medium fine is what you want to grind for with french press btw ;) but feel free to double (2x) reply to my single (1x) post again lol

>>18367609
~800 to 1400 micron. You'll want the majority of those particles on the 1400 side.

>>18367606
My uncle gets up at 3 am for the gym, works until 5 pm, doesn't get back till 6, drinks a few cups of coffee and a bunch of beers, and then collapses in his bed for 6 hours. It's the weirdest thing

>>18366762
Help. I think the aeropress gang memes have finally taken hold of me after keeping mine in a drawer for months in favor of my chemex and V60. I've been using it pretty much every day now. Inverted method for life.

>>18367846
One of us! One of us!
Inverted, every fucking day!

I want the q2 heptagonal

>>18366635
Is a keurig worth the hassle?

>>18367912
>hassle

>>18367897
well you can't. it's trash.

Well bros? Which one do you visit to buy your Aldis breakfast blend (the one with the rooster on it)? Aldis or Aldin?

>>18367956
Explain

>>18367981
It didn't even make the Official /CTG/ Tier list for French Press Capable Grinders.

>>18367981
have you not seen the tier list? its trash, and you should definitely not do your own research as it could contradict the sacred list

>>18366807
Please add all Lido products to trash tier

Didn't realize there was a new thread up:

Clever Dripper or Hairo Switch - which is better/more worth it?

Similarly, is it worth having a Kalita Wave if I use a V60 fairly regularly? How much does a flat bottom vs the cone-shape have?

>>18367185
If you can easily swing it, yeah pick up a used single boiler and compare and contrast. Sell the one you like less.

>>18368017
The Hario Switch is made of high-quality Japanese borosilicate glass and silicone and you can easily swap other glass cones/even other drippers (like an oragami) into it. The Clever is made of plastic and will give you bitch tits.

The choice is yours.

>>18368010
I separated out the tiers by color so triggered bozos wouldn't get confused. Its clearly in poor tier where it belongs. Its the cheapest grinder 1zpresso sells for a reason. The only reason to buy one would be if you absolutely need to travel with it in an aeropress.

>>18367969
aldi for life.
i would never buy coffee from there but i shop there every day and refuse to shop anywhere else
im actually about to head off to aldi for my daily shop.

What tier is this one

>>18368131
>induction

>>18368154
Comes with the flat. Its pretty good tho, for wrapping thin pans

>>18367969
Hofer

>>18367052
It gets compressed. IIRC it even says not to do it on the packaging somewhere.

For me its the xbloom with its 48mm TiN coated burrs and 18.75μm steps.

>>18366635
Should have stopped at 16 seconds

What's your setting on Kinu m47 for v60?

what's a good poorfag scale?

>>18368696
Read the pastebin

>>18368696
using this one for coffee and cooking
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08ZHBLPKX/

>>18368323
Well thanks man! Have a good day

>>18369387
Ur welcum

Im going to try the coldbrew

>>18369522
Cold brew tea >>>>>>>>>>>>>> obese black woman anus juice >>>>>> POWER GAP >>>>>> coldbrew coffee

>>18369522
based

i left my latest batch sit on the counter for ~12 hours then moved it to the fridge for another ~10. i think this is now my preferred method. bolder goffee

>>18368588
4.2-3.8 is where I was at on a 2019 phoenix.

>>18366635
Coffee drank today:
2 shots of espresso @10
1 glass cold brew decaf @12
1 glass cold brew decaf + chocolate milk @ 2
I really wish places would sell beans in 0.5 lb bags, I have to drink a lot to use all these beans before they go stale.

I accidentally drank caffine yesterday and was filled with an overwhelming urge to shit post to the extremes. what the fuck?

>>18370163
sounds like your brewing method is too based

>>18370134
>I really wish places would sell beans in 0.5 lb bags
225g? Plenty of places do around that or 250g

for me it's FRENCH roast

>>18370269
None of the local places around me in ‘murica do that, especially not in commie units

>>18370254
it was actually froma free energy drink. i thought it was one of those nu-energy drinks with strange teas but this one had actual caffeine in it.

>>18370274
I'm just saying for french roast you really don't need anything better than a K1 or a timemore. Should be rated by use case imo

>>18370332
Maybe not local roasters but I know Sey does 250g and Onyx has a 4oz and 10oz option so it can't be that hard to find

>>18370134
Freeze your grounds.

>>18370568
>still mad about getting btfo lmao

>>18370851
You're french pressing sumatran with a timemore c2. Don't get uppity.

What hand grinder is good enough to do espresso?

>>18371438
See.
>>18367076

Just got the Hario Switch in the mail, what do I think of it?

>>18371562
You're wondering where the HDMI and power connections are, and how the fuck you download Mario

>>18371610

>>18368588
I play around 3.2-3.6 on my Simplicity.

>>18371610
I'm actually thinking that it's another useless piece of shit meme brewer based on how these first two cups went

>>18371737
The only constant is you.

Oh look, he's melting again because someone made fun of his favorite toy

>>18371805
Never owned or used a switch bozo. Why do you have such trouble making coffee?

>I don't even own this device but I will still fight to the death to defend it on an online anime imageboard
MELTED

>>18371820
I'm not defending the switch, I'm questioning your ability to pour water into a cone. Have you tried reading the pastebin? Might show you a thing or two.

All I said was that a V60 made with skill and proper technique is better than any swill produced from one of this bozo's meme devices that he shills here and he goes on a fucking M E L T yet again

>>18371828
Well there's every other mention of v60 in this thread. I don't think you've ever been able to prepare one with skill, nor have you posted about it other than this time. What else have you had issues making decent coffee with? Millys and lillies?
>>18367846
>>18368017
>>18367846

>melting so hard he's replying to the wrong posts

>Intentionally throwing you a bone while you drown in pisstakes
Better luck tomorrow. Maybe try posting a pic of that switch and we can get a timemore rep to diagnose your issues.

>NOOOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST BREW COFFEE NORMALLY AND PRODUCE A GOOD RESULT
>YOU HAVE TO USE THIS EPIC GADGET THAT I SAW IN A COFFEETUBER VIDEO THAT I DON'T EVEN OWN BUT I SHILL FOR ANYWAYS

>PRODUCE A GOOD RESULT

This might be melopisser's most pathetic meltdown yet. And it's all over a toy that he DOESN'T EVEN OWN kek

>>18371874
>The only constant is you.
reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee :'(

Go ahead and post timestamped webm of your Meloswitch routine we're all waiting

>>18371883
There's going to be many milydrip webms when the 3 new ones get here pal. Save those tears.

>>18371893
Can you fit all of those in your ass at once?

>>18371898
Where do you think I keep the extras? Sitting in the fucking worthless hario switch that I totally own and don't just larp about making shitty coffee with?

>>18371902
Why would I go onto an anime imageboard and intentionally lie about a coffee gadget just to piss off some bozo gearqueer and make him melt again? What would I gain from that?

>>18371907
Social interaction. Its the only way you're filling your sperglike mood meters these days. You show up longing for attention and leave feeling (ful)filled.

>projection

Toasting in an epic meltdown bread.

>>18371926
It's spelled "percolation" you fucking idiot.

>>18371929
But sprometheus told me that immersion is better?

>>18371926
You're almost topped off for the night. Keep going. Maybe take a shower in the morning to keep off the negative debuffs.

>>18371938
Meds. Now.

>>18371947
I'm not the one larping about owning hario products.

>you don't even own a melodrip because..... because you just don't okay???

>I make shit coffee with products I don't understand how to use and its all because of youtubers

>>18371968
>DUDE YOU HAVE TO BUY THIS HECKIN GADGET LE COFFEETUBER SAID IT'S GOOD
>uh no I don't actually own it but I trust the experts (coffeetubers)
>oh you had a bad experience with the meme gadget that I don't even own but I shill (for free) here constantly anyways? well you just uhhhhhhhhh let's see um you um you listened to the youtubers yeah you aren't supposed to do that
Anything else?

>>18371977
>it's another useless piece of shit meme brewer based on how these first two cups went
>had a bad experience
>I don't understand how to use these things and I'm going to continually cry instead of trying to figure them out
>first two cups
>two cups
What else do you fuck up? Are you able to cook for yourself or do you have assistance?

>>18371984
Yes I'm able to cook normally using normal tools and skill without relying on myriad kitchen gadgets to overcomplicate and fuck up simple tasks that I can just do better manually. I need to see your boomer white woman kitchen which must be full of all sorts of plastic crap unitaskers that you insist are necessary to make basic shit

>>18372000
Aogami super gyuto and a vg10 paring knife + some stainless steel pans pretty much take care of it all. Couple shaptons to maintain the knives. You know the first time I tried sharpening a knife it came out duller than before? Turns out straight razor maintenance doesn't translate well to freehand sharpening. I could have blamed the stone or that cultist youtuber Burrfection for selling me on jap memes. Instead I took a little time out and learned use the shit I bought. But there wasn't a knife general for me to menstruate in at the time so our situations are a bit different. I'm just not believing someone who can't pour water good can fry a egg
> with skill and proper technique

>no, the meme device cannot possibly be shit, you just uh.......... can't "pour water good"
>well, no, I don't actually own one and I know nothing about it but I just know that you are using it incorrectly because the coffeetubers I worship told me that it's good so you aren't allowed to say anything bad about it
>*melts*

>>18372047
Post a picture of your switch smashed to bits on the ground. You've used twice, determined its worthless, and you're not going to use it anymore right?

>>18372054
I need to try it with the lilydrip first before I can write it off completely

Guys…

Oh great a schitzo thread I wonder which autist is going to win this round of which chink garbage is better than the other chink garbage

I don't feel like making coffee

I just ordered some Peruvian coffee. What am I in for?

do you buy your coffee online or from a local roaster?

>>18372765
Local roaster is top tier, has been for over a century. The ladies behind the counter are walking coffee encyclopedia and you learn something new every time you go there.

>he hasn't taken the con panna pill

>>18372765
I have a couple good specialty roasters in my city, so I pass by them to avoid shipping fees. Passed by an Amsterdam cafe while visiting this weekend and bought this coffee.

Extended natural Ethiopian guji, local landraces. Was pretty good as espresso, hopefully good in filter too.

>>18372846
>have you taken the /ethiopiapill/

>>18366807
>imagine thinking Kinu M47 is just decent and 1Zpresso JX is poor

the schizo is still going? what on earth...

>>18372765
online from a local roaster since everyone is using coupon codes and free shipping (if you get enough coffee)

>>18371562
>>18371737
What's recipe are you using?

>>18373085
I fucking told you I'm ONLY capable of making NORMAL coffee stop trying to shill YOUTUBER MEMES FUCK

Just used my first issue Blue Bottle dripper for the first time in a couple years. Always a fun tool, the newer one has less pronounced ridges so I wouldn't recommend it tbdesu. The ol' 30/350 so many of us start with isn't bad.
You now remember when the blend was called "Three Africans" instead of "Three Africas"

>>18373289
Anon...

>>18373085
The one that my favorite eceleb told me to use

Is there a decaf coffee that tastes good? I need to cut back on caffeine.

>>18372765
online but it arrives 3 days after i buy it and is roasted, packed and shipped on the same day.
there is a local roaster but they suck.

Melbourne, coffee capital of the world. We started mccafe you know.

>>18373437
>mccafe
and you should be nuked for it.
also if you make coffee from beans that dark you should be publicly executed.

Am I a cultureless retard if I use this brand? It's the easiest to get off amazon.

>>18373461
Industry standard shit, you're fine.

I got my first moka pot a few days ago and another larger one today. I wasn't expecting too much but I think I'll enjoy them quite a bit. it opens up a lot more potential and diversity in your coffee game compared to the pour overs I enjoy daily.
anyway, how much can you fill up a moka? this is 150ml as per instruction, but they also say to stay below valve. is this acceptable?
thanks for reading my blog post, fellow r/beanjuicedrinkers

>>18373499
Straight up to the top. You want it full.

>>18373499
Moka pot is probably the worst method of brewing coffee imaginable. You have no control over brewing temperature, because the water has to be boiling for it to work.

>>18373499
too high, at most it should be just touching the bottom of the valve.
watch these and you should be fine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-PeYeiqPLU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-C7azYybhE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zK0F5PqJ1Gk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfDLoIvb0w4

>>18373528
just say you dont know what you are talking about and fuck off.

>>18373557
I've been doing the hoffman thing and it's been working well although I'm still a bit inconsistent. I thought it was a bit too much water. I don't get why Bialetti would sat 150ml is the right amount if that's not safe, but then again they lied about the amount you can brew too

>>18373528
you can control other things, and it's very far from the worst possible way

>>18373565
Just about any other analog method of brewing coffee will come out better if you actually know what you're doing since you can control both temperature, and time much more easily. With a moka pot, no such controls. You just get boiling hot water directly onto your grounds for however long it takes to boil all the water.

All I said was that a mokapot made with skill and proper technique is better than any swill produced from one of this bozo's meme drippers that he shills here and he goes on a fucking M E L T yet again

>>18367543
Always drink a cappuccino in the morning and at 7pm, sometimes two, never really hinders me from sleeping.
Might be a tolerance, might be an existence as eternal snoozer, no clue why it works.

>>18373590
>lied about the amount you can brew too
what does that mean?

>>18373591
again. just say you dont know what you are talking about and move on.
just because it doesnt give exact readouts of pressure and time and heat it doesnt mean you cant control it.
you have to just know what to do. you will fail for a long time and then it will click and it will be great.
you have to feel it
you have to connected with the moka
similar to turkish coffee. you just have to feel it.

>>18373406
Which is?

>>18373617
it says you can brew 60ml of coffee with a 1cup moka. it turns out you're supposed to fill it with 63ml. in other words less than 3ml can be soaked by the coffee, evaporated or left in the bottom. absolute bs

>>18372092
How good did it taste? Was it worth selling your soul?

>>18372765
Make my own but feels like I'm currently plateauing in skill.
They taste nice, quite spicy and aromatic, but I fear that's more the beans and less my roasting.

>>18373648
i have never had a bialetti so i didnt even know what was a thing.
only thing i knew when starting was to fill below the valve and to stop it before it starts spurting.
also i have no idea why they say shit like "6 cup" when it will never fill 6 cups, like not even 6 shot glasses. so strange.

Why isn't there an electric mokapot with variable temp control???

Just drinking one cup of this bad boi.

how do you rate this coffee, /ctg/?

>>18373898
not enough demand.
can't imagine it would be that hard to make yourself.
i'd buy one if it was available but thats because i love moka pots not because i would actually use it.

i mean i dont really think temp control is that big an issue.
like boiling water in the base, then put on high gas(make sure the burner matches the size of the base and the size of the max flame ring does not go past the edge of the base), wait for coffee to flow, turn to low 5 seconds after coffee appears, turn heat off when coffee reaches halfway to the bottom of the spout, when coffee reaches the bottom of the spout run the base under cold water(or submerge the base in a vessel of cold water) for 10-15 seconds, pour coffee.

of course these instructions can differ for different beans and whatever but this is as universal as it gets for moka pot use. well good moka pot use. i can't really imagine how having exact temp data would help with this process.

oh and i used a 6 cup moka with a competition filter for these instructions. your results may be different if you use different equipment.
:)

if you could demonstrate how having exact temp data and temp control would make using a moka better i would really love to see it.

I use a french press, preground coffee, tap water boiled on the stove in a pot, brewed for 5 minutes

No, it doesn't taste very good, but it's easy and good enough

It’s pretty good

>>18373953
0/10, just like all coffee

Why on earth is the pastebin recommending a 9 minute french press brew? That's way too long. 4-5 minutes is ideal

>>18374039
I just tried that method today. Makes a very strong brew, too strong for my tastes, and going in with a spoon and stirring/removing the top layer is a bit too autistic for me to do when I first wake up

>>18366635
What time do you guys normally consider too late for coffee? There’s a lot of different answers on the internet/literature so I’m not sure what’s right. I try not to drink after 3 pm

>>18374159
Imagine missing out on after dinner cuppas.

What’s a good way to make homemade pumpkin spice lattes? Do I add the pumpkin/spices to the milk or do I mix it with the espresso?

>>18374159
im retired so i never need to be awake for something.
drink coffee whenever.

>>18374159
6pm it's my limit time, 3 cups max per day. But it's my personal preference, drink whenever you want if it doesn't affect your sleep.

>>18374011
Nice! It was good to hear him say noone actually knows shit about blending. Growing, roasting, and blending is all a fucking black box when it comes to what you'll get in the cup. When you get a good bag, cherish it.

>>18374159
>What time do you guys normally consider too late for coffee?
Noon, caffeine has a half-life of 6 hours

>>18374416
But even then, there’s still HALF the caffeine floating around in your bloodstream. How many half lives should you wait before the caffeine is at a low enough level that it doesn’t affect your sleep quality. 2? 3?

>>18374523
2-3 depending on how much you drank

>>18374523
half lives 3 confirmed

>>18374011
Neat- what's it taste like?

Have you guys tried this new air fryer coffee trend?

>>18374523
It's simple. Buy some caffeine pills and experiment. Measure out 50g of caffeine powder and take it before bed, see if you can sleep well. Figure out the dose that doesn't affect you. Then, work backwards with the half life to determine how late you can drink a cup.

>>18368330
That looks like a Keurig but expensive

>>18372832
With some fresh whipped creme- oh baby

>>18374159
Depends on your specific sleep schedule and tolerance for stimulants. I drink coffee whenever the fuck I feel like it.

>>18374293
Pumpkin spice has no pumpkin in it, it's the spices you would use for a pumpkin pie. Starbucks changed their recipe to include pumpkin because people are retarded and it was easier than trying to explain why their pumpkin spice mix only had pumpkin spices and not pumpkin to a bunch of braindead Twitter outage junkies.

And the answer is you make a syrup with the spices and pull your shot over it before adding your milk.

>>18374706
Air fryer can’t get hot enough to roast beans, believe me I’ve tried kek

>>18375399
I mean using an air fryer to brew not to roast

>>18367944
Just answer the goddamn question

>>18375414
i cant answer a question that doesnt make sense.
but if i lived in a world where that question does make sense i would say that if keurig is a hassle for you then yes you should get it.

>>18373898
There's an electric moka pot, just not one with temp control because I don't think there's really any point in that.

>>18375409
Jesus how

I like that fresh roast goffee doesn't actually go bad after a month like they say. Still very tasty and substantial today :)

Is it sensible to use a coffee grinder to grind various other things such as spices? Are they easy enough to clean or will it irreversibly fuck up the flavour? I find it difficult to justify spending so much money on something that only does one very specific job.

>>18376072
You can, but I personally wouldn't use my main one. As far as I know it doesn't do anything irreversible, it would just be a pain to do a thorough cleaning every time you swap between spices and coffee. If you have a spare grinder, maybe an old one you upgraded from, you can use that. Even a basic one like a hario slim will blow something like a pepper grinder out of the water.

>>18375998
Who is "they," anon? Is this "they" in the thread with us right now?

can frozen coffee go straight into a grinder or do you have to thaw it first

>>18376496
You need to let it sit in warm piss for at least 15 minutes beforehand

>>18376496
I don't think it's necessary. I've had no problems but I've only used frozen beans a couple times. aside from being colder there's pretty much no difference as far as I could tell

>>18376496
Why would you freeze them in the first place? Just let them perfectly rest on the counter for 6 months

>>18366635
My setup (1970s La Pavoni Europiccola I restored myself)

Is there some sort of order of priority when it comes to coffee gear/ingredients/technique? e.g. At what point do you give up on trying to get a more consistent grind size or trying to find the ideal brew time and focus on water quality? At what point do you start looking at other beans that might have a more appealing taste to you?

>>18376496
So long as you don't have a ceramic burr grinder I think you're fine.

>>18376554
The grinder looks like shit but the la pavoni is nice.

>>18376589
this.
honestly a niche zero would fit the aesthetic better.
i reckon you could mod the shell and make it the same red as the Europiccola

>>18376641
Nice zero is like the only nice looking grinder anyway.

>>18376570
Within reason, I would say good beans is first, then water, then technique, then gear but it's kinda useless breaking it down like this because good coffee requires all four. Up to about $1000 for grinders I'd say you get pretty good value and beyond that you kind of hit a cliff of diminishing returns around $2k. Once you have a good grinder though dialing in technique becomes much easier because you know it's not your grinder's fault and can look elsewhere.

>>18376662
*mogs your niche*

>>18376695
Do you have one? Theres like an 18+ month waiting list to get one on prima.

>>18376695
>when your 4,000 dollar space dildo outperforms a 700 dollar mid-tier grinder

>>18376720
No I don't, I was on the waiting list for 7 months and by the time I could buy it I was off caffeine completely.
>>18376738
Didn't say anything about performance, just responding to the idea that a Niche is the only nice looking grinder when it probably isn't even top 5.

>>18376695
If microscopes make your dick hard then yeah I guess I can see it. But personally I think it looks like ass. Not as bad as anon's grinder though.

>>18376777
What's the best looking grinder to you?

>>18376570
I'm wondering if I shouldn't make a flow chart/"build path" to go along with the hand grinder table. Like spending ~$130+ on a hand grinder gets you access to reasonably tasty turkish-coldbrew, its all about what you want to do and how you want to optimize. Once you've got that you spend $20 and get a v60+carafe+100 filters and you've got access to world class filter. Matt Winton won the world brewers cup last year with a fucking metal v60 and a kinu. Tack on $20 from there and get the hario cold brew bottle or whatever other bullshit is on sale at the time and thats another method. $30 aeropress if you want to waste money or shitpost. $200 all in? Then you either dump your sheks into good coffee or the espresso money pit. Upgrade grinder from there as necessary and you've got a travel setup with the spare grinder with no motor to burn out.

I grind my coffee with a mortar and pestle and it turns out fine. Why are you guys spending hundreds on grinding devices?

*mogs thread*
nothing personnel, kid

>>18376787
This one >>18376800

>>18376800
If the c3 is better than that encore I'll add it to the table.

>>18376799
>mortar and pestle
>not two rocks in a potato sack
ngmi

>>18376641
>>18376662
But the Niche has a weak motor so you need to buy a Wug instead

>>18376797
That'd be cool actually, I imagine it'd be really helpful for a lot of newfags. The only thing is you might end up down a rabbithole trying to find a good cheap gooseneck kettle to recommend.

Of course this is all pointless if the guy who always makes the thread doesn't link the pastebin though.

>>18376842
Hoes mad.

>>18376787

>>18376871
So why can't you afford a Switch? You said yourself that it's the logical conclusion of V60 brewing and you shill it here constantly. Can you not afford a $30 gadget?

>>18376787
anything by weber or craig lyn

>>18376919
>exposing beans to sunlight
ngmi

>>18376875
Versalabs look sick I just wish that belt drive was covered.
>>18376884
>logical conclusion of V60 brewing and you shill it here constantly
When the fuck did I say that? Kurasu didn't have anything else I wanted so I was waiting on importing one. They run about $50. Looks like roguewave got a small batch in. Guess I'll jam an origami into it so I can milyswigami and trigger you. Wish they had some fucking sibarist filters in stock.

>A FUCKING LEAF
The absolute state of melotards

>>18376944
>Versalabs look sick I just wish that belt drive was covered.

I'm okay with it being open. It reminds me of the over-engineered autism that it already is. It's barely not a prototype, and it looks like it's overbuilt to the point that it'll last literally forever.

>>18376958
You really are a moron huh?
>>18376961
>barely not a prototype, and it looks like it's overbuilt to the point that it'll last literally forever
Thats why I bought the wug. Just an absolute tank of function over form. Third iteration of their original Weber-Lyn HG1 motorizer design so by now they know exactly what they're doing.

>>18376937
i think those dosing tubes are fucking retarded too but this was the best picture i could find for the grinder.
all of their accessories and shit are just for the giga rich to buy because they want a full set or whatever. its mostly trash that cots $5 to make and sold for $500.

>>18377026
The best part is people put their good beans in the plastic ones they sell to deep freeze and noone actually gives a fuck about the overpriced showpiece.

>>18366635
>mfw

My oat milk always overpowers anything else in my coffee, the coffee AND the syrup.

Any advices?

>>18377166
How are you brewing your coffee?
Is there a chance that you're making it super weak.

>>18377166
use less oat milk

>>18377172
I'm using an espresso maker and making two shots but to be honest they are probably pretty week. I usually make a double but I'm pretty new to it so I'm just using the double shot cup.

>>18377181
I might be fucking the ratio up all my stuff seems less coffee-y and less flavored, it's mostly milk flavors

>>18377166
>oat milk
kill yourself
now.

Oat milk yourself

>NOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T USE OAT MILK MY FAVORITE ECELEB SAID IT'S BAD!!!!!!

>>18376797
That would be useful for noobs. Or a table that shows what sort of gear you'd buy at each price-point, like Logical Increments but for coffee instead of PC building.

>>18377668
The second I make that some idiot will start screeching about how he tried a v60 twice and made shitty coffee so it shouldn't be on the chart.

I just bought a 9barista
On a scale of 1/2, rate how much I will enjoy my perfect no hassle espresso after I have waited the six weeks it takes to ship

look at him melt.

>>18377941
isn't it those schizos that make this general fun?

>>18378148
2
post pics when you get it.

just bought the hario drip scale and 2 vacuum jars, what will i think of them?

>>18376496
It'll almost certainly grind with no issue but there is some suggestion that the temperature of beans as they go through a grinder does have an impact on how they extract, so if for example you buy some beans, use half of them fresh and freeze the rest, then take some from the freezer to use later, your grind setting might be some way off. Worth you trying it out.

>Sharpen knife with whetstone for years
>Works perfectly well as long as you know what you're doing
>Retarded faggot comes along and demands you try out this amazing life changing new knife sharpening gadget
>Try it
>It sucks
>Go back to sharpening with a whetstone
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO WHAT THE FUCK I PAID $100 CAD FOR THAT SHARPENER YOU CAN'T JUST SAY THAT IT'S USELESS SHIT
Melt.

Sorry ignore me my whole thing is I crave attention.

>>18378664
kek you're so mad you posted on the wrong board let alone thread and yet you still can't post an edge or BES test.

>>18378740
Just say you don't know anything and move on.

All I said was that a knife sharpened with skill and proper technique is better than any edge produced from one of this bozo's meme devices that he shills here and he goes on a fucking M E L T yet again

>you basically have to spend 400$ to get a good cuppa at home

>>18378759
>400$
Poorfag tier setup

>>18378755
I'd tell you not to cut yourself on all that edge but it's blunt anyway, lel

>>18378768
Do you have any $30 plastic crap that I can use to improve my edge? I hear that a pull through sharpener is the logical conclusion to stropping

>>18378768
I need to see your boomer white woman kitchen which must be full of all sorts of plastic crap unitaskers that you insist are necessary to create basic edge geometry

>>18378759
>400
im a moka fag and even i spent more than that.
if you make espresso and your setup is less than $1k usd you should actually kill yourself.
like with gaming pc's if you spend less than $1k you are a loser who isn't actually trying.
just go to starbucks(console) and be blissfully ignorant.

>>18378867
There is no reason for a computer to cost more than $100

I bought a $35 raspberry pi and fucked up flashing two sd cards. I'm actually thinking that it's another useless piece of shit meme computer based on how these first two cards went.

dog water bait. not even going to give it to (You)

>>18378880
>raspberry pi
actually the best scam of the century.

>>18378885
Why would I learn linux when I've been getting by on windows for years. Works perfectly well as long as you know what you're doing.

>>18378908
who are you talking to?

>>18376589
Thx m8, honestly I bought the grinder since it's also a La Pavoni and I thought they'd look good together and I figured it would be a good one because their espresso machines are also good. It's a bit underwhelming (retains a lot of coffee which goes stale inside the machine) so I do want to upgrade it at some point.

The Europiccola also needs a remake since the lacquer on the base chips easily so I think I'll have it powdercoated and if I'm taking it apart anyways I'll get the head rechromed. I didn't go all in on the restoration as I didn't yet know if it'd be a success but honestly it turned out better than I thought. The manometer is also a diy addition since this is the base model. They tried really hard to have the threading be as obscure as possible so I cut the thread of the adapter myself. The proprietary manometer is like 50 bucks

>>18376641
Thx I'll look into it

Who's (You) is it anyway?

>>18379034
damn bro thats legit.
i respect the commitment.

>>18379094
>Starbucks
Indeed, coffee for dummies.

>>18376797
>spending ~$130+ on a hand grinder gets you access to reasonably tasty turkish
Turkish coffee uses extra fine grounds and is literally boiled, it's overextracted as fuck and that's the point. There is absolutely zero need for a $130+ grinder to make Turkish coffee.

I think of buying the Peugeot Kronos for my birthday. It would be my first step into burr grinders.
Is it considered good ?
Any advice or counter advice welcome, please.

>>18379287
>>18366807

>>18379281
I don't think cheaper grinders can go fine enough for turkish. Hell I'm not sure a $130 grinder could go fine enough for turkish. Turkish is the one brewing method where it's probably best to just buy pre-ground.

>>18379371
Cheaper hand grinders can go that fine, their problem is consistency, and letting a few larger chunks through is not as much of a problem. Having too many fines in coarser grinds is a bigger problem.

>>18366635
I stopped drinking caffeine a few weeks ago because I am not sure it's good for you to consume. But I do really miss coffee bros.

"An increase of psychoactive compounds may also multiply the impacts in brains, as ex vivo evidence indicates that elevating caffeine concentrations can lead to an increase in the brain-to-plasma ratio of caffeine (16). Previously, we observed a decreased gray matter (GM) in the medial temporal lobe and reduced cerebral blood flow (CBF) during daily caffeine intake, in which the larger reductions of both properties were associated with a higher accumulation of caffeine + paraxanthine. We postulated that these cerebral responses may be due to an incomplete elimination and an accumulation of the psychoactive compounds. It is still unclear, however, how fast these brain responses can be restored during abstinence when caffeine and paraxanthine can be completely eliminated."

>>18379641
Anon turkish is finer than espresso, it's a powder basically. A cheap grinder cannot go that fine, even disregarding consistency.

>>18379662
Do you smoke weed/tobacco or drink alcohol? If you do you're just a retard hypocrite doing things worse for you.
That study has one citation and the test group was taking 450mg of caffeine a day. That's 5 to 6 cups of coffee.
Cut out goyslop fast food, soft drinks, smoking, and alcohol and enjoy your morning cup of coffee like a normal person

Why would you ever want to make cockroach coffee in the first place

It really is just the right amount of cream. I thought they were bullshitting.

CREAMER GANG

>>18379793
no

>>18378759
make that 800 for espresso
but for something like pourover or french press you can get by with like a 100 dollar setup, 90% of the taste comes from using good beans

>>18379825
how are these cans made? surely they don't use anything resembling actual espresso

>>18368131
Trash

>>18372765
Local roaster

i need coffee its been two days

>>18380189
*bean

>>18380207
bravo

>>18379281
There's a reason that zassenhaus grinders cost $100-$200.
>>18379641
Have you ever made turkish coffee or are you just wanting to chime in?
>>18379670
I can't even get started on the flowchart before some bozo starts screeching about how he's wrong. Keep fighting the good fight pal.

>>18376797
>Once you've got that you spend $20 and get a v60+carafe+100 filters and you've got access to world class filter
Wouldn't you need a nice kettle as well?

>>18380606
It would certainly help. ~1200ml. $22. About what the plastic hario air will run you. Pay more for the convenience of an electric or even more for precise temp control.
https://www.amazon.com/Uno-Casa-Gooseneck-Kettle-Stove/dp/B08BZMF6HK/

what do I do to make it so coffee doesn't make me shit like crazy and get jittery and anxious throughout the day? love the taste, hate how it makes me feel

>>18380677
Get decaf I guess

>>18366635
Today I had my coffee black with some brown sugar and craisins mixed in

>>18380956
>brown sugar

I already have a set of digital kitchen scales that measure to 1g accuracy. Is it worth buying another scale that measures to 0.1g just for coffee?

And what exactly is the difference between a cheap £15 scale from Amazon like pic related and something like a Timemore Black Mirror which is 3-4 times the price?

>>18380677
keep drinking it until you dont get jittery

>>18381046
Response time. If your bakers scale reads quick enough to set you accurately stop your pours, no need to change it. If you're overshooting your target weights because your scale display lags there are $15 chinese weightman scales that work just fine.

Sumatra or gtfo

>>18381808
for me its kona

>>18381826
That's actually my next bag to open, I do take breaks from Sumatra so I can enjoy it again as much as it deserves. So chocolatey and smooth.
And cold stone sweet cream creamer. Liquid crack.

For me its The One With The Rooster On It.

Any anons had dis

>>18374404
>>18374671
It’s great. I grew up on Cuban style coffee so it’s similar to those. It achieves why it set out to be, that old style espresso. I have a Gaggia Classic with some mods so it’s more forgiving than light roasted specialty espresso

>>18381808
>Sumatra
ah a fellow dog water enjoyer.

>>18381847
Currently sipping on the last of some j u i c y costa rican and guatamalan home roast brewed with one of the new lilys. Floral strawberry and citrus acidity backed up by dark cherry and plum sweetness. Lingering lavender finish almost like hui gan.

what am i in for?

>>18382208
Once you find the right grind and water ratio, it cuts through cream and tastes as good as it smells. Almost chocolatey. Try with cold stone sweet cream

>>18382208
tiger piss.

>>18382208
Always been my favorite of their roasts. Genuinely very good if you can get it made with the clover

>>18382208
The epitome of coffee perfection in terms of taste and smell meeting in a blissful perfection and mutual equality.

has anyone tried mushroom coffee blends? does it give you super powers?

>fire up stable diffusion
>platonic ideal cup of coffee
>Steps: 32, Sampler: k_dpm_2_a, CFG scale: 4.5
>makes a cappuccino
DRIPKEKS BTFO

>>18382326
Over complicating and soy lingo.

>>18382208
Dark roast coffee belongs in the bin

>>18382326
You're telling me a shrimp fried that rice?

>>18382326
Why wouldn't it make a melolilyswitch, the logical conclusion to coffee brewing as a whole?

Does anyone have an idea why it’s muddy on the right side, not in the middle, and why’s there an empty area on the left?

>>18382534
Overswirled. Just look at those longitudinal striations. Suboptimal.

Look at him swirl. Bet he posts all night about it.

>>18382551
Just say you don't know anything and move on.

>>18382534
Buy an Aeropress
>>18382542
>>18382551
Based

>>18382534
under swirled.

Cheaper hand grinders can go that fine, their problem is consistency, and letting a few larger chunks through is not as much of a problem. Having too many fines in coarser grinds is a bigger problem.

>>18381439
I got a weightman scale recently and while it's reasonably responsive during pours, it's not that responsive to small changes. Like if I toss a bean in it usually won't display a change, I have to put multiple in. Is that normal or is mine just a bit fucked?

>>18382732
Sounds like a $12 scale to me. Now you see why $200 highly calibrated load cells exist. Acaia developed their firmware out so they could sell stupidly accurate $1000 auto dosers to cafes. The world's least competent wagie can sit there and fill dixie cups within ~3 bean accuracy to prep for a busy shift.

>>18382732
There's a simple solution to that actually. The accuracy of the scale isn't the problem, the sensitivity is. So what you do is just apply a bit of pressure onto the scale that it can't ignore, and it's going to refresh and give you an accurate reading.

>>18382534
>muddy
your grinder is shit

coffeebros.. I've been using a $30 Mr. Coffee for a while now and need something a little better

1) will grind my beans
2) will make coffee at a preset time
3) will keep my coffee warm but not burn it
4) will not cost me a paycheck

any thoughts?

>>18383341
>>18383341
>>18383341

>>18374159
quarter life of caffeine is around 8 hours, so 3pm as a hard limit for me. Even after over a decade in the industry, I don't have much for tolerance, and late caffeine will fuck my sleep up (yours too, even if you don't think so)