/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>18328163
Just had a nice* Nespresso instant coffee

*the Nespresso tastes like shit, but my oat milk is FUCKING delicious and make a shit-tier instant product taste divine (I have never been face first between a woman's butt cheeks btw)

Lastly, I have just purchased a french press and a coffee grinder, and now need to find some nice beans. Which country produces the best ones? Brazil? Guatemala? Ethiopia?

>>18328171
>Which country produces the best ones? Brazil? Guatemala? Ethiopia?
The one that is grown closest to you.

>>18328163
I only drink instant coffee.

>>18328243
I'm from Finland, my white incel brother in Christ. So that's Ethiopia

>>18328171
>Which country produces the best ones?
IMO:
Costa Rica
Nicaragua
Columbia
Ethiopia

>>18328372
I kneel for thee

>>18328372
Agree with these but also I think peru is climbing the ranks

>>18328171
Different regions or even different farms within that region, bean variety, as well as how they process the beans will affect the taste profile. Beans are also sorted and sold by grade. Supermarket shit can be stale and lower grade (more defects, varied bean size). You should just try many different types, or roasters, but buy fresh and see what you like.
Ethiopia for example is a lot of heirloom variety, often sun dried.. can taste fruity/floral or be described as funky. Some people hate it, some love it.. after all that, the roaster can still fk up the roast and ruin good beans by making it nasty, or fail to develope it’s flavor.

God I fucking hate coffee

I haven't drank coffee in over a week

>>18328468
>>18328488
>incel moment

good water makes such a big difference, I've been a fool all this time

Haven’t consoomed any coffee shit in awhile, tell me what to buy.

Why are Italians so strange?
Cappuccino before 12am = perfectly acceptibly
Cappuccino after 12am = guaranteed indigestion

>>18328799
Italian here. It's 11am, you fucking worthless cultureless American bovine inbred piece of worthless classless shit

>>18328809
However! It's now 8pm in Italy. Eat my indigestion attack!

>>18328825
>*farts straight into your mouth*

>>18328834
Do Amerifarts really?

>>18328636
For me, it's pic related

>>18328163
I'm tired of seeing this picture in my feed so I am hiding this thread

Yet another thread without the fucking pastebin.

>>18329147
Post it yourself or quit your fucking whining

>>18329677
If you're going to autistically post a new thread while the other is still up, you can at least drop the fucking link at the top.

i had some coffee and now i'm happy :)

>>18329742
also am i blind or was this thread not linked in the end of the last one.

>>18330345
MoronOP never links from/to the old thread. He's latched onto the idea of doing a shitty job and get a little rustle every time someone mentions that he's deliberately fucking up.

>>18330365
what a shit cunt.
just make pastebin anon the designated general maker. and if any other general is made that doesnt link back and doesnt have the pastebin every agrees to just ignore it.
but maybe thats just a pipe dream.

knew it. knew the fucking weird faggot who HAS to make the OP would leave out the pastebin yet again

Trying out Verve Sermon. It's very good!
Tastes exactly like raspberry dark chocolate.
Straight it's got strong acidity but makes it worth it with the fruitiness. Bitter notes are only obvious in the aftertaste after those fade away. Balanced and good.

Also I love the way my hands smell now after touching it.

270 posts until bump limit? Better make a new general and not link the pastebin.

loser ass faggot thread. someone else make it

is coffee good for you?

Oh look, he's melting again

>>18328163
I drank 500 ml (16 oz) of coffee and feel my eyes.

>>18330454
i already answered in the last thread.

>>18330330
I had some coffee and I feel existential dread

>>18328343
>Finland
Greetings to you, independent citizen of ice & snow
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xT9teYkSH9Y

>Ethiopia
Anywhere in Africa should be fine then.

How feasible would it be to grow your own coffee in non-equator parts of the world? Like obviously trying to mass produce coffee there is basically a novelty thing, but what about just keeping a small amount of plants for your own personal use, like people do with weed and shit.

>>18331221
1) Coffee plants take 5+ years before they produce anything you can use
2) You need dozens of plants to make a personal use amount of coffee.

>>18331221
ive had a tree for years it still hasnt grown any beans

Give me ONE (one) reason why I should drink the coffee

>>18331388
Just like with anything else, there's no reason to do it if you don't enjoy it.

still miss my free panera espresso. God damn it why did it have to happen the way it did the coffee is so much goddamn better than anything else fuck fuck fuck my taste in coffee is ruined

>>18328171
Most popular regions have both great and shit-tier coffee.
Look for local roasters and try out their products. This is the best way to experiment with many types of high quality coffee.
Remember: the best coffe is the one you like the best

>>18331221
>How feasible
it isnt.

>>18331388
its not good for you.

CREAMER GANG
RISE AND CREAM

>>18331717
>CREAM
fag

RHR has been really high, cutting down on my caffeine intake
1 double espresso per day now, considering trying out some decaf espresso

>>18331776
No refunds

>>18331776
>RHR
?

>>18331865
Resting Heart Rate

>>18331900
why not just say that?

>>18331908
RHR is a common abbreviation

>>18331923
where
i have never heard anyone say it or type it in my life.

>>18331717
creamer? what's that.

>>18331988
what is google?
>Creamer is a store-bought powder or liquid that's commonly added to coffee or black tea in place of a milk product like half-and-half or cream. Most coffee creamer is dairy-free, instead made of sugar or sugar substitute, oil, and thickeners. It has a longer shelf life than milk products, especially when in powder form. It's most commonly found in the U.S. and comes in a wide variety of flavors, including seasonal options.

>>18332022
why would you use something made out of oil and sugar substitutes instead of something like milk?

>>18331982
its real common bro are you some incel who barely interacts with anyone irl or anything online besides 4chan?

>>18332055
idk i dont use that shit.
ask the mutts in this general.

Just bought a bag of this because it was cheap and wanted to try it

I have a Breville Barista Express at home. Despite using the finest grind setting, my shots keeps coming out under extracted. This hasn’t happened with other coffee brands I’ve previously used.

Is it the beans themselves, or could I be doing something wrong? I use an OCD tool and the tamper the machine comes with and that usually gets the job done, so I’m wondering if it could be the beans themselves.

>>18332113
Making espresso out of stale beans will give you fast sour shots. Also as a rule, anything that has to say 100% Arabica coffee is guaranteed dogshit.

>>18328171
Thanks for clarifying, I was worried you might have thought the coffee was good! Haha, THAT would be a problem!

>>18332113
make cold brew out of it

>>18332055
I've never used them but mostly at places where keeping fresh milk isn't feasible. Never understood why they were a thing at like diners though. Another mystery the boomers left us I guess

I will make a really good shot of espresso for the former Queen of England. RIP

I will put the pastebin in the OP for the former Queen of England.

creamer for the queen of england RIP

Since the Mr. Coffee batch I made with coffee I accidentally ground with my Aeropress setting turned out not disgusting at all, I made a pourover at the same setting, which I stress is 30 steps finer than what I had been grinding for pourover, and it tastes completely normal. What gives? Is the Breville just an automatic fines machine and I haven't been tasting coffee properly the whole time I've owned it?

>>18332368
>Is the Breville just an automatic fines machine and I haven't been tasting coffee properly the whole time I've owned it?
Yes. This is what I was trying to explain to that guy last thread. Sometimes burrs just produce a shitty distribution. Most people don't give a fuck, but once the blinders are off its hard to go back.

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>>18332416
I hate chinks so much

>>18332429
>Our legal team is now preparing all the patent documents needed to challenge this and also we're phasing out all grinders that used the 38mm dante burr or lid. Completely unrelated to our patent woes.

>>18332113
Have you adjusted the top burr setting? I was able to get somewhat okay results on top burr at 3 and side adjustment at 4. Unfortunately the adjustment steps are just too large for optimal dialing so I had to get a separate grinder

>>18332236
she will reign forever in my heart.
seriously tho, god save the queen. all that king business can fuck off.(dude probably wont last 10 years anyway.)

>>18332113
man, how come the coffee looks so much more delicious when the french press has a rounded top, bros?

>18328163
>forgetting the pastebin
https://pastebin.com/UEzwuyLz

Previous thread:
>>18306141

>>18329147
>>>18330365
>>18330388
>>18332699
thanks lads. i think the pastebin actually helps newfags so i was seething >>18330426

i want to add an espresso machine section to the pastebin. i know its controversial so i wanted to poll you guys. manual and electric in seperate section? objective and reasonable pros and cons of both? also if i learn anything useful from this james book i'll add it

>>18332744
>manual and electric in seperate section?
yes.
i would probably do espresso machines as the header and then explain that there are 2 different kinds and then do electric first because it is massively more popular than manual. also is much much more complex to talk about.

>>18332744
I'd just link to the eaf guide desu. Also thx for adding the newest hg table to it. Anything else I need to add asap? xpro is officially sold in NA now so I guess I can add that tonight.
https://www.roguewavecoffee.ca/collections/new-arrivals/products/1zpresso-x-pro

>>18332758>>18332821
yeah i don't wanna go nuts explaining everything just touch on user experience and then just give the generic recommendations and why it's okay to buy used machines and what to look for
briefly list budget stuff
- GCP with a section mentioning mods, small clearance, etc.
-Silvia, pid kits, etc
- A section about breville/sage?

then
-flair
-flair 58
-robot
-rok, note about preheating and small basket/old material brew chamber

is missing anything for beginner espresso? puck prep video already listed

>>18332831
Picopresso and Nomad could be worth mentioning as entry level memes that work. I don't think anyone recommends or is interested in the rok press these days. I'd talk a bit about spring/direct levers and explain that modern manuals exist because servicing old levers(other than pavoni) is getting harder to source parts and more expensive. Robot being a clone of baby faema etc, flair being originally intended for travel use and the 58 being completely antithetical to the original kickstarter guy's vision etc.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvcXyYC1Sa8

Drinking more of this as a latte. So damn good.
And RIP the queen.

>>18332860
idk i think i might get someone criticising me for putting all the stuff at the end they'll say coffee beginners don't need to know all that stuff so i'll try to keep it concise

>>18332902
>LPavonis and other vintage levers are a pain in the ass to maintain so cheaper modern options like the flair and robot have come into the market but require the use of an external boiler.

>>18332941
>the flair and robot have come into the market but require the use of an xternal boiler
wiat what

>>18332948
Kettle, hotplate, stove. Something else to make the water hot.

>>18332831
Maybe put in something like
>If you don't want to mod or touch anything inside: open your wallet and buy a modern dual boiler PID
>eg: lelit elizabeth, silvia pro x, breville dual boiler
>there's a saying about this: buy once, cry once

>>18332929
>make a cup of really good coffee
>don't want to share it or have other people ask me to make it for them
>pretend it tastes like shit

>>18333018
>make a cup of really good coffee
>want another
>make another
>its even better
feels good man

>>18333018
Whom you talking, autist?

>>18332416
is kingrinder kicked off of EU Amazon too?

>>18332831
honestly just steal from the redditors since their espresso guide is more autistic. also include the decent to trick someone into getting it lol

>>18332900
I looked at their offerings but it was $104 for a 5lb bag and for a blend without the actual growers listed that's too much for me lol

>>18328163
my shitty ikea espresso pot got recalled bros what do I do I don't want to get scalded

>>18333122
face the valve away from you when you are using it. You should be doing this anyway, if that valve needs to release and is facing you it's going to scald you

A friend gave me his Flair "Signature" after he bought himself a Cafelat. Considering it was free I definitely want to use it. Are there any tips/tricks/things to know/etc. about the thing, or good overviews to watch, so that I'm not wasting my time with it?

>>18333448
To go a little fruther, I am not a total beginner at manual espresso, I've used his Cafelat quite a few times so I'm looking less for straight up guides and more for Flair-specific quirks, etc.

>>18333448
Long shot times can taste great, short shot times can taste great. There isn't going to be any hard and fast times to follow for a lever, so just experiment. Taste is key. For consistency you're going to want to make sure its always preheated. Either let the chamber sit in hot water for a bit or steam it above your kettle. You'll also always want to completely fill the chamber up above the rim a little, you don't want air in the chamber. If you want to intentionally pull a shorter volume shot, just start with the piston ring lower.

>>18333505
Preheat, preheat, preheat. The flair brew cylinder has way more thermal mass compared to the robot so you'll absolutely suck the heat out of your water if you put it in a cold chamber. Your grind is going to be coarser compared to the robot because of the taller, thinner puck. Since the puck is much taller, its going to take longer for the water to fully hydrate the bed, so don't be afraid of long preinfusion.

>get coffee with friend
>he gets some triple shot death drink while I just get flat white
>as I start drinking think "hmm this is stronger than usual"
>halfway in realise our orders were swapped, but whatever
>1 hour later and now I'm dying
Help

>>18332929
based creamer gang

>>18333507
>>18333517
Thanks Anons, I'll take all of that into account when I get around to using it. I tend to have better luck with longer pulls anyway, so I'm not too worried about that. Definitely not all that good at keeping the Robot preheated properly, though, so I'll have to figure out a good way to do so with the Flair. I didn't think about the grind needing to be coarser either.

>>18333624
>tfw caffeine has never affected me positively or negatively
>No buzzes, but no withdrawls

The only time I ever felt anything in all the years I've been drinking coffee was when I was learning how to pull espresso and kept drinking mistake/trial after mistake.

>>18333654
40mm signature basket vs 57.5mm on the robot. Water is just going to take a little longer to flow out vs a thinner puck so you're going to choke it at the same grind. But like I said, taste is key. I'd start by pissing out shots at ~7bar in 25s with no preinfusion and gradually go finer and finer while playing with soaks/blooms.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ATOp8tau8fI

>>18328163
>18333333

>>18333740
>>18333333

>>18333731
>But like I said, taste is key. I'd start by pissing out shots at ~7bar in 25s with no preinfusion and gradually go finer and finer while playing with soaks/blooms.
Sounds like a plan. Following that, I suppose I'd begin experimenting with longer pull time and/or preinfusion? Good quick video too, I was wondering how best to preheat and but that funnel idea seemed pretty great

>>18333745
Exactly. If you ever feel your pull "stop," like your puck is getting slammed shut, just back off the pressure a little and let that water soak. I've had loooooooooooooooooooong shots off a signature that somehow came out delicious. Also force yourself to drink every shot, don't be a bitch and sink anything. There's no better way to motivate yourself to do better next time than to suffer through bad coffee knowing you can only blame your technique.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rC36en6zo_U

>>18332371
The even crazier part is some burrs are designed to produce surges of distributions to elicit a particular flavor profile. Like one burr manufacturer makes one burr set that has a single peak of distribution for a clean, clear cup, and another that has two peaks, one much coarser, for a sweeter, more acidic cup. By choice...

What is a good coffee grinder for grinding pepper

>>18333943
I use my timemore c2 every day for pepper. It works great

>>18332929
black is just too thin for me. i prefer a thicker drink.

>>18333122
>espresso pot
die

>>18333909
Yeh I've got a espresso optimized bimodal hand grinder and a "hyperaligned highly unimodal" set of flats. Shits wild. Filter optimized unimodal flats in a zero retention chamber don't produce enough trailing fines to hit 9bar traditional espresso but they're fucking perfect for modern long ratio espresso.
https://www.home-barista.com/marketplace/ditting-807-lab-sweet-observations-t81795.html

So if I understand correctly only the Q2 had a commandante clone and the rest is kinu clone?

>>18333943
your old one

>>18334023
kinu k3, 1zpresso Jx/pro burrs,j-max and the italmill burrs in the kinu and apollo b plus are all v e r y similar. 1zpresso q2 hept, xpro, Kmax/plus/pro,kin k5/6, option o mini and comandante are all v e r y similar. Apparently you can't patent burr design. Also SSP is knocking off ditting lab sweets in 64mm working on 98mm clones now.

>>18334053
kin k3* sorry little stoned.

>>18333962
Can conical burrs also grind other spices or would I need to get a blade grinder for making spice powder and shit

>>18333688
I used to work in a place with a fancy commercial automatic and if I had a couple of double shots in too short a time it would buzz me hard.

>>18333943
All of them are better than a pepper grinder. If you want to buy one just to grind pepper then get a hario slim, maybe even a used one

nutella, half and half, sugar

>>18333943
pepper is significantly harder than coffee so keep that in mind.

>>18334419
'swhy your mom calls me coffee and calls your dad pepper

>>18334472
what lmao

>>18334478
I have erectile dysfunction :*(

>>18333688
Try putting 100 grams of beans in a 1.5l french press and leaving it for 15 minutes.

>>18334479
you good?

Do you buy white coffee filters or Natural coffee filters?

>>18332127
But I thought Arabica was better for espresso…?

RISE AND GRIND, CREAMER GANG

whats your favorite creamer? picrel

>>18328799
They're literal retards who don't understand that they're just lactose intolerant

>>18332113
The grinder is shit, get a better one

>>18335077
NTA but I thought most espresso blends include a ratio of robusta to improve body and balance (dunno of what, maybe acidity?). At least a lot of Italian blends do

>>18335125
robusta is low acidity high bitterness

>>18335077
He's saying that brands that emphasize "100% arabica" on the packaging are usually doing it to fool buyers into thinking it's good just because it's arabica. And honestly I can't say he's wrong, actually good coffee brands tend to give you more useful information about where the beans are actually from, flavor notes, roast level, etc. because those are the pieces of information that actually matter. 100% arabica is the absolute baseline expectation for non-shit coffee, it's not something worth bragging about, it's like putting "0% semen" on a jug of milk, like cool I guess? But it's weird you felt the need to specify that.

>>18335125
Spoiler: Italians largely drink shitty burnt garbage coffee

>>18334205
They can work for anything you want just cracked apart like with pepper, but if you're going to create fine powder, you'll want a bladed spice grinder.

A flat white calls for steamed milk too and isn't just what you call a cappuccino with milk you just heated on the stove because you don't want to spend $150 on a milk frother? Then what do you call what I just made? A flat cap? A bubbless?

>>18335159
Steamed milk still contains air in microfoam form so you end up with a thicker, creamier drink than just hot milk

>>18334419
Tell that to my washed Kenyan ultralight peaberrys

The smaller the coffee bean the tastier it is. You can't refute this.

>>18335255
They scientifically contain the most coffee per coffee

>>18335133
Oh right, that went over my head. Yeah, best to avoid if that’s the best selling point.

>>18335255
Kenya
QED

For me its obviously the burundi.

>>18335660
based

>>18335758
Jk its columbian black honey. Also I had no idea they were doing this shit now. Could have been shilling this for 2 months.

What do you do with your grounds? Is washing them down the sink drain a problem or does it depend on your plumbing?

>>18335978
my mum says its good for the pipes, but i feel like if it was cafes would just have a sink to knock into instead of a box, so maybe it depends on how often and how much grounds you wash down?
also yeh probably depends on the pipes.

>>18335978
Trash, washing them down the sink is fucking dumb because unless your pipes are brand new and pristine and you never ever ever accidentally rinse any fats down there you're just increasing the risk of clogging up your sewage line for no reason when it's just as easy to toss them in the bin.

>>18335978
I sprinkle them around my yard (mostly my shed) with some epsom salt mixed in to keep critters away since they don't like the smell.

>>18336087
oh also before that I keep them in a bowl in my fridge after I dry brine any meat (usually chicken) to help get rid of the smell

>>18335133
Interesting. I’ll remember that for the future. Thanks!

>>18335978
Dry them in a pie tin on top of my computer so they don't mold, then bag and use whenever I need compostable nitrogen rich mats.

>>18335133
Can confirm, every bottom of the barrel brand I know has "100% arabica!" proudly printed on the front of the packaging. If a coffee is worthwhile you can probably track it down to at least the country if not the region or even specific farm.

>>18335133
>>18336186
Well shit, fuck Amazon then.

If not good for brewing espresso, what’s the best use for these beans? Regular coffee? Cold brew? I hate being wasteful.

>>18336247
I mean you could try using it for espresso and see how it goes. But if you want to get rid of if the fastest way is probably cold brew since that eats up the biggest dose of coffee

>>18336247
if only the OP wasn't such a faggot and linked the paste you could have read how ordering coffee from amazon or at a grocery store is a bad idea anyway

is kona and blue mountain jamaica beans a meme?

>>18336427
>jamaica
lol

>>18336186
Is catuai coffee awful?

>sumatra

>>18336554
>said nobody in earnest ever.

>>18336463
Catuai is a varietal of Arabica

Cope is a varietal of Seethe.

The sumatra poster did at one point meme me into getting the worst coffee I've ever had. This category includes instant coffee, fast food coffee, 90s office coffee when visit your dad at work was a thing. Just honestly incredible it was even worse than artificial flavors added coffee

>>18336875
>The sumatra poster did at one point meme me into getting the worst coffee I've ever had. This category includes instant coffee, fast food coffee, 90s office coffee when visit your dad at work was a thing. Just honestly incredible it was even worse than artificial flavors added coffee

>>18336875
Nah it can be just incredibly mid if the herby/earthy funk is not present, artificial flavor is simply atrocious. Still the two stage drying is just cope, indo is too wet and humid. When I got some to roast, boy the beans look nasty and in bad shape

I made aeropress americano but I diluted it too much so now it's just american

>>18331202
>>18335159
>>18335172
Finnish make the best latte art
https://twitter.com/RunaPocket/status/1567890603450724355#m

I fixed the burr alignment and now I'm going to have to find all my settings all over again

v60 bros... I ran out of filters and have been using my sister's clever... It's better? Much, much easier/more consistent brew and it's like all the best parts of a French press but without the mud. It's a little less bright/revealing of a cup, but I think that makes for something more pleasant

>>18338845
>sister's clever
the fuck are you talking about

>>18333448
Flair signature makes awesome espresso. Off the top of my head:

>Don't go over 16g of coffee
>Always preheat the chamber, I throw it into a coffee mug and fill with boiling water
>Always preinfuse, around 10-15s
>30-45s for the rest of the shot
>Grind is generally a bit coarser than a normal espresso machine
>Tamp carefully, it's sensitive

It's a finicky machine desu, but even with some channeling it's always pretty drinkable. I've just accepted that even if the bean is dialed in, there's always another variable I might get slightly off and cause channeling. Don't lose your mind over it but that said after some practice u should be able to pull with decent consistency

>>18338845
been considering buying one for a while now

>>>/fit/68278938
espresso bros is this true? does espresso really only have 1/3 the caffeine of a cup of coffee

>>18333448
>giving away flair for free
>got a robot instead
kek that guy isn't your friend, just look at this wall of cope >>18338881

>>18339009
He says, bitter and espressoless.

For me, it's a breve

Well, I listened to your advice. I used freshly ground, coarse ground coffee. And it still turned out overly acidic and disgusting.

I am fucking done trying to make decent coffee. It's over.

>>18340199
cold brew is the answer

>>18340199
What fucking coffee god damn it.

>>18340199
>I used freshly ground, coarse ground coffee.
what kind of coffee? as in what was the exact coffee used?
when was it roasted?
how was it roasted?
what grinder?
how did you brew?

>>18340199
Have you no fortitude, anon? No willpower to persist?

Trying a local roaster's Brazil-Burundi espresso blend.

Well, it definitely tastes like grapefruit. They promised and they delivered.
I'm really not convinced this was a good idea. Grapefruit is a pretty dubious fruit in and of itself. Grapefruit coffee is probably not the right target to aim for.

>>18340199
There is no reason to grind coarser than your pourover grind besides being a little girl who can't handle coffee with a little grit.

>>18340222
>>18340263
>what kind of coffee?
Sprouts Organic Colombian Coffee. A medium roast.
>when was it roasted?
No clue
>how was it roasted?
No clue
>what grinder?
I ground it in the store at the coarsest setting
>how did you brew?
French press. Boiled water on the kettle, let it steep for 5 mins, filtered it and drank.
>>18340264
>Have you no fortitude, anon? No willpower to persist?
I have never in my life made a decent cup of coffee. At this point I'm not convinced it's possible. I'm just gonna drink water instead
>>18340319
>There is no reason to grind coarser than your pourover grind besides being a little girl who can't handle coffee with a little grit.
Retard. Finer ground coffee in a french press leads to over-extracted, overly acidic coffee.

>>18340437
>No clue
no wonder why its shit, jesus christ.
if it has been roasted longer than 1 month ago just throw it out/ dont buy it.
>at the coarsest setting
you are too stupid to be here. go to tea general for like minded faggots.

also if you didnt follow this recipe you are doing it wrong https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=st571DYYTR8

>I have never in my life made a decent cup of coffee. At this point I'm not convinced it's possible
its because you dont care.

>>18340437
possibly the water temp if you trust everything else. try 90c for less time on medium/dark roasts

>>18340437
>at the coarsest setting
is this bait?

>>18340437
From the dispensers right? Yeah you don't want that. If you're going to buy coffee at the grocery store, look for like Stumptown Hundred Mile or Holler Mountain. The boxes below the shit you bought.

>>18340437
>over-extracted, overly acidic
top R-word user

I can't wait to go to sleep so I can wake up to yummy, chocolatey Costa Rican coffee

>>18340981
I can't wait for you to go to sleep so that I can break into your home and rape you

>>18341075
I can't wait until retardOP posts a new thread in 20 replies. Without the pastebin.

im looking for a bean that has a spicy finish, what do you all recommend?

Started batch brewing because of work so I make around 3 6-shots runs in half an hour that last through the day

Latest hack is letting the cofveve(mocca pot, hotstarting with hot water) sit for 30min to 6 hours in an airtight yeti tumbler so it "develops" it's flavor, more and it becomes too nutty and buttery and not enough chocolatey like ferreros

>>18341075
not rape if it's not unwanted

>>18341399
Papua New Guinea Kainantu Sero

>got hooked on coffee 3rd grade
>don't kill myself with caffeine but have a decent amount a day until now
>want to reduce intake because maybe my anxiety would go away
>if I don't have at least two cups worth I'm lethargic and unmotivated
>even after a week of weening off, still couldn't get used just one cup in the morning
>treat myself for a day and have two, feel 5x more productive and actually feel good

what do I even do

>>18338987
Literally impossible to quantify because of the number of variables. How big is "a cup of coffee"? How big is the espresso shot being compared? What ratios are you using for each? What's the type of coffee? What's the roast level? What kind of brew temperatures were used? These are just the things I can think of off the top of my head.

>>18341441
Coffee isn't making you anxious, you're just defective.

>>394810968

>>18341441
>even after a week I give up and wonder why I'm still addicted

For me its a Fliche and an Appartamento, with PID of course.

>never tried specialty coffee before
>find a local roaster
>find out that on top of online orders they also stock some stores, including one that's nearby
>go grab a small bag to test it
>pre-ground but I'll make it work
>smells odd but I'm sure it's nothing, probably just a peculiar aspect of specialty roasts
>make coffee and drink it
>it's the single most disgusting cup of coffee I've ever had in my entire life
>maybe the most disgusting drink I've ever had period
>check the label on the bag
>roasted in february
Although even with that in mind I don't see how the coffee just being that old would make it this disgusting. I'm pretty sure I've drank coffee several years old before and it wasn't this bad

>>18341942
>local roaster meme
>pre ground
>didnt check the roast date until after brewing
also you didnt tell us what the coffee actually was or how you brewed it.

>>18341988
I brewed it in an aeropress, the coffee itself was pic related

Ah the usual suspect

>>18342002
>escobar

>>18342002
>sumatra

thanks for recommending pic related. it blows my porlex out of the water

>>18342078
A mortar and pestle blow the porlex out of the water

>>18341910
>Fliche
what is that

>>18338881
>Don't go over 16g of coffee
Really? My limit is 18g

>>18342002
Mandolin?

>>18342279
Probably meant niche

>>18341910
Why can't I find any evidence for this thing that allegedly exists and that you didn't just shoop for a one-off joke that doesn't make sense and nobody would get?

>>18342279
>>18342536
How did you pass the captcha

>>18342541
i fail like half of them just tell me what it is

>>18342541
is it a flat burr mod niche? wouldnt that mean the burr surface is smaller thus requiring more turns to grind a given quantity thus negating any potential reduction in fines generation

>>18341910
Imagine dropping some Kenya ultralights in that bad boy and watching the struggle

>>18342908
manual chads can't stop winning.

I'm happy with my coffee setup but want a Lagom P64 just because it looks cool.

>>18342536
No I meant Fliche.
>>18342541
Because you're shit at researching Fliche products. DM him to get in the first batch.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CiVO4X9Drmn/?hl=en
>>18342756
64mm flats have more cutting area than 63mm cones. Learn math.
>>18342908
Yeah I'd imagine the downside is tbd and that motor is wearing sooner than intended.

>>18332923
ishygddt

Anyone know a good, light roast decaf around $13-$15 shipped? May be a tough ask. Sweet Bloom has an exceptional decaf for $15.50 and they're local to me but far enough that gas makes the bag cost at least $20.

>>18343326
This man is set to make a buttload off coastal yuppies who have more money than brains and won't take the time to scratch their heads and wonder why they aren't spending their Baratza Forte money on a Baratza Forte.

>>18343326
>Learn math.
c2=a2-b2 amirite

>>18343939
bitchmade post form won't let me do ^2 with my compose key

>>18343947
Lol ᵍᵉᵗ ᶠᵘᶜᵏᵉᵈ ᶠᵃᵍᵍᵒᵗ

>>18343927
Yeah its great. Motherfucker will probably get some of my shekles for his wdt tool too.
>>18343947
gotem

>>18343926
I buy my coffee in 5lb bags hth

>>18343926
https://swroasting.com/colombia-excelso-sugarcane-decaf.html

>>18330454
Yes.
Helps memory.
Helps concentration.
Reduces cancer risk.

>>18332168
Big thing at diners b/c they last long in remote areas, and diners often served travelers.

>>18344106
Diners have fridges and can use up cream to keep fresh stuff onhand

>>18344058
did i just get a virus

>>18344001
>wire distribution tool tool

>>18343926
>light roast decaf
lol

>>18344235
lol

>>18344226
Just say you don't know anything etc etc. I can't purchase a technique, but I can buy a tool to assist in said technique. If Weiss sold a tool you could call it a wdt.
https://www.baristahustle.com/blog/weiss-distribution-technique/

>>18344270
Who is Weiss, and what makes him believe that he owns the concept of leveling the surface of a granular mass by stirring it? Besides him being a Jew, obviously.

>>18344306
John Weiss was a home barista bozo trying to declump coffee out of a superjolly he got for cheap back in 2005. People were doing all sorts of dumb shit back then to compensate for the lack of quality home espresso grinders. This post has spawned an entire fucking industry of tools. The dumb little realization that you can use a needle to even out bed density probably advanced espresso more than anything else in the past 30 years. What is now common advice was nothing more than the ramblings of some idiot with thousands of posts on a niche forum.
https://www.home-barista.com/tips/dosing-to-heap-distribute-and-pack-too-much-coffee-t966.html#p7851
>leveling the surface of a granular mass
You're thinking in 2 dimensions.

>>18344409
it took niggas a hundred years to reinvent the whisk

Getting frustrated with a V60, brew time takes forever, 2:30+ even with very coarse grind, which tastes overextracted, I can't match the bright and floral/fruit taste that I would get with my Aeropress. I've had excellent pourovers from coffee shops. Very unhappy.

>>18344927
>Getting frustrated with a V60, brew time takes forever, 2:30+ even with very coarse grind
That's not a long brew time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmCW8xSWGZY

>>18344927
V60 is easy to fuck up and you're probably fucking it up
Follow the Hoffmann method and keep doing it until you get it right
Probably want to get a bag of decaf so you don't die
Mind that decaf takes over five minutes for a single cup

>>18344971
Gay

>>18344927
Let your Aeropress steep for two more minutes and get ready to piss yourself (because of the caffeine)

I aligned my Breville burr down to 3 and now my Aeropress setting is too bitter. My old pourover setting too, but was giving me too many fines in the first place so I don't know what to do.

>>18344927
What's your dose/ratio? That's not a long brew time for v60 and I find it very hard to believe you're getting over extracted brews unless you're dosing like 20g or less and it's taking that long

>>18344927
>forever, 2:30+
actually fucking kill yourself

>>18332929
Peaberry coffee done with a cloth filter tastes amazing black, no bitterness or sourness at all.
Using setting 15 on a Virtuoso+

>>18344927
way under extracted, easy enough tasting error to make

This is going to sound depressing, but is coffee/tea time a small (more or less guaranteed) highlight of anyone else's day? Hardly any basic pleasure better than a real malty black or espresso roast.

>>18328250
>>18328468
>>18328488
why even come here to post this? whats the point?

>>18345131
>>18344971
I'll try Hoffman and this guy's method tomorrow

>>18345184
15g 1:16
Usually takes closer to three minutes, doesn't taste anything like what I get with Aeropress.
My Aeropress method is 30s bloom, top off, 30s steep, 30s press. My light roasts taste amazing this way.

Is solimo kpods amazon brand?
If so, is that why they are fuckingly cheaper than literraly all other kpods?

They arent that bad.. well, I could be biased becasue of the cheap price kek

>>18345620
Wtf is your problem with instant coffee, that fit the thread.. fuck you

Anyways, im not that anon

People that say "im not an addict, i like the flavor"
How are you not ashame of yourselves? You negators cunts

Question for Coffee fags , do you recomend having one cofee in middle of the night? I cant sleep anyways (im tired af)

>>18346040
No.

>>18346041
Ok then i'll have it

>>18346040
i like a coffee after dinner desu

>>18346053
But i ate a lot, im still in the bathrrom for 2 time

Inverted aeropress is so much better than normal aeropress for brew consistency that I'm surprised aeropress haven't rebranded to make inverted the default style in their instructions.

>>18346150
Doesn't it just prevent a couple of drops from falling through? I don't see how it'd make a big difference.

Anyone remember when some fucknuggets at MIT invented a new style of coffee maker, like, 15 years ago? Then Starbucks bought the patent and shelved it so no one would ever use it?
Cuz I do. I wanna know how that coffee woulda been.

Unrelated to that, have y'all tried softbrewed coffee?

>>18346186
The Clover coffee machine wasn't it? Hopefully the patent wears out eventually and people start making them again

>>18346186
>buy a revolutionary process that will make your product beat out the competition
>shelve it so nobody else could have it
I thought the taking a hundred years to reinvent the whisk was the major sign that coffee people are retards, but a bigger sign would be this kind of communist economic ignorance.
>>18346212
FYI they tried releasing it already but they pulled it because it wasn't very good.

Aeropress ground at 36 with the new burr alignment and it tastes like absolutely nothing. 12 tasted like extremely bitter dark chocolate (Costa Rica FTW). 24 tomorrow? This is tedious. Good thing I'm using commodity beans.

>>18345937
>kpods

>>18346212
Yeah, that's the one. I heard that SB uses it in literally one store but idr where that store is never mind if it's actually even true.
Why buy the patent a century and a half ago then never fucking use it? It's so goddamn retarded, like when Aldi bought Bottom Dollar but instead of running the stores separately (or turning them into huge Adlis), they just shut them all down. When Aldi did it, at least, they were scared of the competition BD could bring them and the size of BD stores (that of regular ol' supermarkets) was too big to fit into Aldi's business model of tiny stores only but there is literally no reason for Shitbucks to not use the Clover in every store.

>>18346415
Maybe
>new coffee brewing method comes out
>people start getting a craving for it (even if it's just a fad)
>starbucks feels pressured into adding machines for it in all their stores
>turns out it's cheaper to just buy the company and kill it
>do that instead
Similar thing happened with the pebble smartwatch company too.

>>18346344
Kcups

>>18346624
>Kcups

>>18335978
stick them in the bin, washing them down the sink can clog your pipes
>>18336181
based
>>18338881
I did 13g -> 40g of espresso at 6 bar for ~40 seconds and it was delicious paired with apricot jam on fried bread. It is finicky for sure, but it's the cheapest decent espresso and I appreciate that as a broke ass grad student
>>18340199
>tried it once and gives up
ngmi
>>18341441
have a fucking spine and go without for a month

time to go shit my brains out after my morning cuppa
>it's a feature not a bug

>>18346150
hoffman said it was a meme

>>18346635

>>18335070
I use paper filters if I dont want to clean my chemex in-depth since even with coarser grinds, there will be fine coffee at the bottom of the pot and the reusable filter is harder to get the grinds out than just adding a paper filter.

If I want better/more taste, get more of the oils, Ill just use the reusable filter. Also, the paper filter seems to take a long time to brew with, so its quicker

>>18335070
In work i use the big coffee filter as a plate for lunch , it works also like napkin
I will patent this idea im such a chad kek

>>18341441
It seems that you got infected with the gay

>>18340481
>if it has been roasted longer than 1 month ago just throw it out/ dont buy it.

>>18341441
decrease in increments, you should be treating yourself like a heroine addict

>>18346415
>century and a half
lol
I meant decade, obvs.

>>18346427
Buncha cunts.

>>18346740
>>18346803
I use paper basket filters to wipe windows and mirrors after giving them a wash (or newspaper, if those things even exist anymore). Wipes streaklessly for some reason I don't quite understand.

>>18341441
After I had an amputation due to a rare condition I have, doctors prescribed me painkillers. One of the 'cets. Percocet, I think.
The med did nothing for me due to, believe or not, redheadedness from my mother's side and my dad being half-Arab (both groups are highly tolerant of opioids for some reason) so I was given fentanyl patches which didn't take away the pain of having a fucking chunk of body cut off but just made me loopy and made me not care about the pain.
The doctors refused to help me get off the stuff, saying not taking any pain med after such a drastic procedure as mine was very much against medical advice so I weaned myself off.
I was on two patches, which got changed out every few hours so I started with a patch and a half. That made me very sick with withdrawal so want with two patches one cycle and a patch and a half the next then down to patch and a half every cycle then alternating a patch and a half and just one and so on until I was finally off them.
It was a horrible experience but if I can get myself off of what's basically fucking heroin with no outside help, you can do the same with some pussy-ass coffee addiction. Good luck, fren.

>>18346840
Apollon's gold says 40-60 day rest dweeb.

>>18347273
>Apollon's gold says 40-60 day rest dweeb

Why are you geh?

>>18347289
>Degassing: we recommend degassing this coffee unopened for at least 40days. Best from 60days to 80days post roast.

>>18347346
Typical coffee fan, do everything they tell him
Fag

>>18347366
>big coffee is trying to scam me by delaying my consoomption by 80 days. I'll show them by drinking it NOW and buying MORE.

>>18347388
Bro just take the L. The degassed coffee fumes clearly are affecting you

>>18347394
>but the HOFF says its fine

>>18345131
>Probably want to get a bag of decaf so you don't die
>Mind that decaf takes over five minutes for a single cup
Is there a reason for this? That may be why I'm getting frustrated with the V60, I've only been using decaf since I got it. My first attempt with Hoffman's method this morning took seven minutes to the end of draw down. But it does taste much better than my previous attempts.

Anyone else get depressed when they think about their coffee routine? I mean it's my primary hobby these days, I'll spend a night roasting, I'll spend a morning dialing in espresso. All the measurements and timers, all the thought over a fucking cup of coffee. From the outside looking in it's just a bit pathetic, a bit much. Coffee is this weird indulgent little dance I do day in, day out. When I think about myself doing all these meticulous little tasks I get sad :( it makes me wonder if there's some extreme loneliness and emptiness in my life and I'm ignoring it. When I talk to my girlfriend about coffee she's always happy to see me engaged in something, but at the same time always seems a bit confused that someone could have so much care for something so ordinary. I'm just rambling and getting it out here I guess. I'm lost in a lot of ways rn and it makes me second guess the things I enjoy. We're just a strange species man, we get off on weird shit

>>18348268
I'm not jewish so I don't have these kind of mental problems. hth

>>18346696
oh ok well if soyboy said it then I retract my statement

>>18348268
I do the same shit you do but better. I also spent years tending kombucha scobys and learning various dough recipes. Noone bats an eye if you spend a day on a brisket, or hours on french onion soup. They'd praise you if you were growing the onions or raising the beef, but that scale of production isn't available to most people. So instead we cut out the middle men of the entire consumer market of coffee. We're smoking premium cigars for budget cigarette prices. You've developed that roasting skill a bit and barring a traumatic brain injury, you're not going to lose it. So relax. Horde 52lbs of greens at all time so no matter what you'll have a years worth of coffee at 1lb per week. I spent more time walking my dog than I spend fucking with coffee and dogwalking ain't a hobby either. Find something you enjoy, accent it with a nice cuppa. I sat under my eaves in the rain and got in a nice roasting session while the neighbourhood was silent. It was great.

Op put the fucking pastebin in this time.

>>18347388
>t. Sey PR department

>>18348472
If Sey's prices make you feel like a broke bitch, don't even think about looking at Apollon's.

>>18333810
Late reply, but thanks again anon, I'll take your advice into account.

>>18338881
>>18346636
I'll take these into account as well. Not going to look a gift horse in the mouth, a free machine is a free machine, finnicky or not

>>18348587
Any time bud. Here's another little preheat tip you might make work.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/JiQxoaMc-fg

>>18348634
Interesting. I like the funnel method from one of the other posted videos, but I'm gonna do a lot of trial and error (unironically fun(. The day I learned how to finally pull a nice shot from the robot was a blast (and a near heart-attack, caffeine wise)

>>18328171
>oat milk
No fats
YWNBRM

>>18348728
Yeah it'll all depend on your kettle and how it all fits, I'm just giving you options. I used to do two rounds of boiling water in a yeti mug. Dumped water, grabbed the chamber with a silicone hotpad. Never burned myself. Its only a finnicky machine if you don't know what you're doing. Send your robot friend this vid and if you're real appreciative of him in a month, maybe order one of these for the homie?
https://youtu.be/gaoMg1qYaTM

>>18348771
Makes sense! As for that thing for the robot - very interesting. I might just send that to him now as it is (I'm over at his place a lot and use the robot myself pretty often). Seems like an interesting addition, at least for a try.

>>18348798
Not sure if you guys have access to someone who knows their shit when it comes to 3d printing but there are a few real useful addons you can fabricate like arm stoppers and new legs so it can fit an acaia lunar. Churls also just released two tamper models for the weird sized robot basket. I'd probably just dm him on instagram and get the thundies while he's making them. Good luck, post back next thread and lemme know how it goes.
https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:5173069
https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:5279681
https://www.printables.com/model/269718-cafelat-robot-leveling-tamper

>>18345634
Your aeropress method doesn't matter, if you're dosing 15g and it's taking "forever" then there's no way your grind could be considered coarse by any sane person, it's not possible.

>>18348268
Why would I get depressed?
Although I do approach it a lot more freely.
When I don't have much coffee left I roast. When I have fresh coffee I simply make one according to arbitrary specifications.
Taste it see what I think I should change and so it the next time I drink coffee.

Hario skerton pro good or should I be looking at something else? I have the normal model but the grinder is wobbly af. Apparenty it's fixed in the pro model.

ITS UP!
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGw5ZSdVAkA

>>18348451
thanks, we don't more people spreading misinformation