/ck/ - Food & Cooking

You forgot the combo.

There. Now you can blame the 1/8lb hamburger patty for your obesity and diabetes.

Red meat, especially industrialized ground beef, is one of the worst possible things for you. Have chicken breast, legumes or a soy based protien instead.

Love, /fit/

>>18303035
commit suicide

>>18303025
White bread is trash, american cheese is trash, sauces are high in fat and sugar.

>>18303035
Wrong

>>18303035
you're a gay virgin
love, also /fit/

>>18303035
Based

>>18303035
fuck you

>>18303033
Yea I stopped ordering the fries a long while ago if I need more food I rather just order another burger than eat fried empty calories

>>18303025
>processed cheese
>patty fried in sneed oil
>literally no burger you will ever get actually looks like that

>>18303156
>sneed oil
fuck off will you

>>18303025
The patty and cheese are not as 'healthy' as the ones above — they are more office stationery than food.
Also the high-fructose sauces and >>18303033

>>18303025
>bread
>beef
>healthy
No. Beef is extremely calorie dense and so is bread. For example, there are about 520 calories in a quarter pounder with cheese from McDonald's. 420 of those calories come from the beef, mayo, and bread. The rest of the ingredients combined(cheese, pickles, tomatoes, lettuce, onions, ketchup, mustard) are 100 calories, most of that being from the cheese and ketchup.

Beef should be eaten very sparingly a few times a month. It's not something you should eat regularly. Like maybe 1/4th a pound of beef in a week. You don't need more than that.

You should never eat bread, period.

>>18303033
170 calories for a medium coke
330 calories for a medium fries
520 for a quarter pounder with cheese

740 for a double quarter pounder with cheese. So yeah, the burger is the main fattening thing on there, even though the fries and coke are not satiating and pile up easy empty calories.

Buying anything from McDonald's is shit and is making you fat. For no reason too since it tastes like shit and you could easily get a burger with the same calories by making it yourself or getting it from a restaurant.

>>18303035
>soy based protien
You had me going there for a minute man.

>>18303251
Yuppie wanker. Food is to be eaten because it's enjoyable and tasty, like white breed and beef are, not because you 'need it' or 'it's good for you'.

>>18303025
bread isnt healthy, tomatoes are not healthy, cheese is not healthy ur not healthy ur a retard

Fast food is full of preservatives and highly processed for longevity. That and the fact it is accompanied by sugar syrup and deep fried potatoes. If you were to make a burger yourself then there is no issue. A burger is an entire meal and doesn't need a side.

>>18303268
4oz of beef is roughly 116 calories, you get it to 220calories with the other sneed oils

>>18303251
>Beef is extremely calorie dense and so is bread
Okay and? Not an issue if you don't sit in your room all day unlike you

>>18303025
cheese is unhealthy as fuck, not that the amerimutt dairy lobby would tell you

>>18303025
If you used the top ingredients it would be way healthier than the burger pic.
>>18304346
>stubs toe and breaks three bones

>>18303129
Starch is a macro what is this

>>18304346
Okay Zhang

>>18303035
soybeans are legumes THOUGH

>>18303025
all the ingredients are shit quality, there

>>18304356
Bro your broccoli
BROccoli

>>18304284
I mean, it's kind of an issue no matter what. By your logic there's nothing wrong with oils and soda and doughnuts because you can just be active. Stop trying and failing to justify your fatty habits.

>>18303035
>uses a fake natty in his image trying to motivate people

why is /fit/ so retarded bros

>>18303035
It's a good image but I wish /fit/ didn't use the most blatant roidmonkeys as shining examples of health and fitness

>>18304346
Depends on the cheese and how you're using it. It compliments many foods perfectly and you can eat a serving of it per day easily. If you're having it every meal, yeah that is probably no good or if you're eating cheap velvetta cheese kinda shit or just melting American cheese all over everything you eat.

But if you're having some cheddar or swiss with a healthy meal of apples and crackers or something similar? Excellent.

>>18303033
1/8 lb
why bother

>>18303035
>eat the bugs

>>18304484
That pic is 1/2lbs. The only burger at Mcdonald's that is 1/8lbs is the regular ass 1/2/3 menu hamburger. Even the McDouble has 1/4lbs I'm pretty sure.

>>18303025
>breadmadewith sugar
>burger madewith fat
>dressing made withh fat
>cheese

>>18303035
>implying /fit/ or anyone on the right is a nice person that tries to motivate you through positivity and encouragement
Most of them are miserable and just put each other down all day and worship idealized finished bodies which, ironically, demotivates all of them and makes all of them think they'll never achieve what they want.

/fit/'s catchphrase is "you're not going to make it", not "You can do it, don't be discouraged friend"

>>18304492
>fat is bad
Go back >>>/reddit/

>>18304502
More like go back to 1950

>>18303025
Nobody ever said that Burgers in general are bad, only that shit they sell at fast food restaurants and frozen microwave burgs.

>>18304502
fat has calories

>>18304502
Fat is flavor (TM)

>>18304512
Burgers in general are bad and unhealthy.

>>18304528
You misspelled "tasty"

>>18304512

>>18304528
How so? A nice selfmade burg with fresh ground beef and fresh veggies and maby some selfmade sauce is the best you can have. Just don't overindulge by making one for every meal but this should be common knownledge.

>>18303025
who told you that cheese, red meat and buns are considered as "healthy food"?

>>18304505
>go back to when most people were fit and healthy
Would love to, but retards like you keep telling everyone they should only be eating carbs and fruit.

>>18304513
And nutrients. Better to get calories from fat than from grains

>>18304540
literally the least appealing picture of a mcdub I've ever seen

>>18304463
>By your logic there's nothing wrong with oils and soda and doughnuts because you can just be active.
>he's starting to believe

>>18304573
You mean the cheapest and most nutritious food in human history? Not merely a "mcdub"

>>18304553
If you can't eat them often it means they're not good for you. Just because you're okay with having them once in a while doesn't mean they aren't bad for you. I could eat doughnuts 4 times a month and it likely wouldn't impact my weight, but that doesn't mean they're good for me.

Burgers taste good, but especially if you cook them right, that's going to involve a lot of butter or oil on the burger itself and on the buns, plus a bunch of salt and plenty of cheese and condiments. Even if you cook it like shit and leave it bland with no oil, butter, mayo, or ketchup, it still won't be very good for you.

>>18304563
>he thinks people in the 50's were fit and healthy
Absolute retard. You belong there. Your nutrition knowledge is about 7 decades out of date.

>>18304582
Hell no. Literal fatty logic. You'll feel like shit and have no energy eating those things if you're active.

>>18304616
>average adult male in 1955 weighed 30lb less than the average adult male in 2020
>had 15% more muscle mass as well

>>18304601
It's not even a mcdouble by modern standards, since it has TWO slices of cheese instead of one.

>>18304612
I usually use unslated butter for my pan when frying up some patties but I'll stop you at using salt itself, I only use pepper with a little bit for finely diced onions and a very small amount of finely diced garlic gloves in my patties. Salt just makes the meat more dry and as for cheese, I seldom do add any cheese to my burgers but when I do I like to go for some Fontina.

>>18304646
Good thing health only relates to your weight, right? Fucking idiot. And they weren't "fit", they were just doughy normal dudes and soft, completely unfit women who only weighed less because they walked everywhere. You have a weird concept of fitness and health.

People in the 1950's were thinner but not particularly fit and significantly less healthy. They were all DYEL by today's standards.

Test

>>18304657
Then you're not making a typical burger so it's kind of a moot point. I'm sure I could also boil doughnuts in water or something but it would be kinda stupid of me to argue that they're healthy when my version is stripped bare and can barely be called a doughnut by most people, yeah?

I feel this movie is tainted by Morgan's raging alcoholicness and womanizing.

>>18304662
>so what if the people were thinner, more muscular, had more stamina, less hospital visits, and better posture? They were less healthy than today!!!
Your brain on Big Pharma propaganda

>>18304672
I have no idea about doughnuts since I'm a yuropoor but aren't doughnuts supposed to be more of a snack also who in there right mind would boil them and what to they have to do with burgers?

>>18304699
You're an actual brainlet with a romanticized vision of the 50's.

They were only thinner and "more muscular" because their technology sucked and they had to walk everywhere and couldn't afford or produce better food. That's it. Their knowledge of food was shit. Their diets were shit. Their health was shit and they thought sugar and cigarettes were healthy. The only thing that prevented them from obesity and even worse health is their lack of abundance and technology.

>>18304719
>they weren’t healthier
>w-well, they were but only because technology was worse
Good to see you have conceded on your original point.

>sugar
Sugar consumption has quintupled since the 1950s.
>tobacco
Meme, ‘can cause cancer’ is equating correlation with causation. Alcohol is worse for you, and people drink more now than ever.

>>18303035
Hey twink nigger FUCK OFF. You don't represent us
t. true /fit/

>>18304741
They weren't healthier. I never said they were. The only reason they weighed less is because their technology sucked and they walked everywhere. They basically just weighed less because they were dumber and poorer and quite literally couldn't afford to be as lazy or eat as good as we do today. So they were essentially thin out of circumstance, not because they were health conscious hard working muscular chads or whatever stupid shit you've imagined in your head. Most of them were alcoholic chainsmoking dumbasses with terrible diets.

>Sugar consumption has quintupled since the 1950s.
No shit, moron. Because we can afford it and we put it in everything to make it taste good. Not because we think it's good for us like people in the 50's did. It's not like people in the 50's avoided sugar because they knew it was unhealthy.

>Tabacco is a Meme
You really are a braindead fucking retard.

>>18303025
I'm just not going to eat it (the goyslop). UGH I know, I know, I'm just not going to eat it is all. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>18304788
thanks for your share anon

>>18304741
>people drink more now than ever.
You're completely ignorant of history. There were times that everyone, including children, drank alcohol because it was more sanitary than water. People drink about as much now as they did in 1950. People drank more in the 70's and 80's than they do now. People drank more during the entirety of 1800 and earlier in history than they do now. We are unironically at one of the lowest drinking periods in history. Only the early 1900's temperance era is notably lower.

>>18304744
We're all gonna make it brah that's it

>>18304782
>he has devolved to arguing that modern day food is healthier than food from 50 years ago
>”they weren’t healthier, they were just fitter!”
Kekkeroni

>>18303035
Sudoku yourself into the shadow realm.

>>18303035
>soy based protein
Go back to /fit/ and stay there.

>>18304540
I've never gotten a McDouble that looked like that.

>>18304463
>By your logic there's nothing wrong with oils and soda and doughnuts because you can just be active
Good job, you got it

>>18304708
>>18304657
boiling a donut is about as retarded as eating a saltless burger patty, that's where anon was going with that

>>18303035
>soy based protein
enjoy your estrogen

>>18304662
Coooope

>>18304708
Way to insult my culinary heritage.

>>18304782
>just because they were objectively healthier doesn't mean they were because they didn't strive to be healthy it was just environmental factors

Wow you really lost the argument haha.

>>18304346
"American singles" and Velveeta are a notably different thing than actual cheese. Cheese, actual cheese, is pretty good for you. It's high in protein and milk fats which are both lacking in most diets. Make no mistake, "lowfat" products are some of the least healthy in the world.
As a mammal, you have several million years of evolution that attuned you to drinking milk. Obviously human milk is ideal, but other animals such as cows, sheep, or goat, can produce the good nutrient juice.

>>18304540
Maybe back in 2013 when the article came out and they had two slices of cheese and cost $0.99. Now there's only one piece of cheese and it's double the price or more.

>>18304494
/fit/ die is the most miserable thing ever. It's all just dry chicken breast, broccoli and white rice. There's nothing wrong with those ingredients but if that would be all I had to eat without any sauce or anything I would kill myself.

>>18304805
>You're completely ignorant of history.

I'd look in the mirror buddy, the alcohol we drink today is nowhere near what it was when children regularly drank alcohol. Back then they'd drink a solution that had such trace amounts of alcohol that you'd need to drink a few pints to match one can of what we drink today.

>>18303035
Lmao

>>18305939
Life expectancy in the 50's was 10 years lower than life expectancy now. We are are not as thin now in a general population sense, but we are healthier. And we know more about nutrition and health than people did then. We also have access to better medicine and training. We also have far more variance in body type and weight, and the fittest men of the 50's are a joke compared to our athletes and bodybuilders now.

Pic very related. A peak physical specimen in 1953, Rocky Marciano, 188lbs 5'10 manlet world heavyweight champion.

>>18306527
>b-but our alcohol now is more potent!
Nice attempt at a save. We're at one of the lowest periods of alcohol consumption in history. Just because people are partying with harder alcohol than they may have before does not mean we are "drinking more than ever" as a general populace. Drinking was ubiquitous throughout most of history with the majority of the population drinking. In modern America, about 5% of the adult population drinks on a daily basis.

>>18303035
True pic

>>18306623
I love how you mention our higher life expectancy one sentence away from 'We have access to better medicine' and somehow conclude from this that we area healthier, not simply that medicine is brute force keeping alive our fat asses through statins and open heart surgeries that weren't possible back then.

>>18306716
>I love how you mention our higher life expectancy one sentence away from 'We have access to better medicine' and somehow conclude from this that we area healthier
Uh, yes. Medicine is a huge part of health. Are you retarded?

Why should we count our advances in travel and food availability against us but we shouldn't count advances in medicine for us? You're just cherrypicking and trying to disregard things that destroy your argument and reaffirm my argument. People in the 1950's were thinner, but not healthier. And they were only thinner due to circumstance, not superior diets, knowledge, or way of life. They just didn't have the luxury of being fat.

>>18304612
Why would a burger ever have oil, butter, or ketchup on it?

>>18306799
You are supremely, fundamentally brain dead. You are the weaponized sort of midwit with enough cognitive power to be dangerous and loudly spread whatever nonsense has been placed in your brain by someone with an agenda without ever having to give it much scrutiny.

The ability for medicine to keep an individual alive is not an indication of that individual's health and fitness. It is an indication of the ingenuity of science in prolonging what in nature should fundamentally not exist. There certainly exists modern day nutritional supplementation which has countered deficiencies in various populations, and I will happily accept those as in favor of modern day advances towards health, but keeping the obese and disease-ridden clinging to life well past their expiration date is in no way an indication of societal health, making 'average age of death' a misleading stat to reference.

>People in the 1950's were thinner, but not healthier. And they were only thinner due to circumstance

The circumstantiality of their health is irrelevant in the same sense that it is irrelevant in the case of primitive and uncontacted peoples. None of them are counting their macros or calories, yet they would smoke the average post-industrial human in health metrics and fitness tests because they exist within an environment their bodies were evolved for. The further time goes on and scientific achievement progresses, the further we remove our bodies from this environment. That is the ultimate point, not that people in the 50's simply "understood" proper nutrition. Cheering on science for "fixing" the very health hazards it itself created is hilariously stupid.

>>18306878
>You are supremely, fundamentally brain dead. You are the weaponized sort of midwit with enough cognitive power to be dangerous and loudly spread whatever nonsense has been placed in your brain by someone with an agenda without ever having to give it much scrutiny.
The projection here is off the charts, and extremely, laughably rich coming from someone who is clearly an incel who spends way too much time on /pol/.

>The ability for medicine to keep an individual alive is not an indication of that individual's health and fitness.
Fitness, no. Health, yes. Health is a product of many factors and medicine is one of them. Fitness matters for health, but it's not everything. You are a moron and think that weight is the be-all end-all determining factor in health.

>It is an indication of the ingenuity of science in prolonging what in nature should fundamentally not exist.
It has literally done that for the entirety of history. You cannot remove medicine from health or life expectancy. It is rooted in how healthy people are and how long they live. Even hunter gatherer tribes performed rudimentary surgery and engaged in medicine to improve health. You trying to label it as some kind of unnatural phenomenon is laughable and moronic. Nutrition itself is "science" and in many ways medicine as eating better improves health.

>but keeping the obese and disease-ridden clinging to life well past their expiration date is in no way an indication of societal health
"Societal health", nice goalpost moving you faggot. It absolutely is an indication of improved health that these very unhealthy people can live longer. And you are an idiot that is focusing exclusively on the least healthy populations as a standard for modern health because you're a moron that can do nothing but try to cherrypick.

>making 'average age of death' a misleading stat to reference.
There is absolutely nothing misleading about it. People live longer now because they're healthier. Live with it.

>>18303025
1. Sodium
2. Preservatives
3. Sneed oils
4. Sugar (Especially Mc D's, they put a lot of sugar in their buns)
5. That's the wrong kind of meat, the patty is highly processed.

>>18303268
>fattening
what a bullshit buzzword.
the calories stored in the fats and proteins in the meat will be digested and released much slower than the calories in the sugar and starch of the fries and coke. the sugar is relased all at once, you have excess energy, the body can't use it all fast enough, it gets pissed out or stored as fat. the burger is the least 'fattening' thing there. by a lot.

>>18307027
>Muh salt bad
Lmao

>>18307014
Different anon, but damn near everything you’re saying sounds like a cope coming from a fatbody with a room temp IQ

>>18306478
There's good precedence behind it when you think about it. Rice fills you up without being too calorie dense, broccoli provides you the nutritional requirements that greens give you, and chicken breast has the protein. I've been thinking of undertaking it myself, ever since I gave up corn syrup and processed goyslop fast food.

>>18303035
Chicken is disgusting, fuck you.

>>18307102
When its a massive amount? Yes. When you're getting 3x your daily limit, every day? Yes.
Salt you flavor or preserve your food with is different than the massive amount they put in garbage food to counter the overly sweet tastes.

>>18306878
>The circumstantiality of their health is irrelevant in the same sense that it is irrelevant in the case of primitive and uncontacted peoples. None of them are counting their macros or calories, yet they would smoke the average post-industrial human in health metrics
No, they would not. Again, you are equating ability to perform physical tasks with "health" and that's not what that word means. We are 100% undeniably healthier than Africans or tribal people, it isn't even up for debate.

It's also not irrelevant at all. In fact you illustrated exactly why thinking 1950's people were healthier is such a moronic belief. Africans are thinner too but they're not healthier than first worlders even with the obesity problem. They're thinner due to circumstance, not due to superior health, or diet, or training, or knowledge, or lifestyle. Nothing about them is healthier or superior. They're just thinner due to lack of technology and lack of easy access to the same food. So in the same way that Africans are not healthier than Americans, neither are people from the 1950's. They just walked everywhere, were shorter, and weighed less because of the circumstances of their life. We're taller, healthier, smarter, better fed, richer, and have vastly superior technology than people in the 1950's. You just can't handle this because you want to pretend that the 50's were a better time and they weren't.

The original post that started this argument claimed that people in the 1950's were "fit and healthy", and that's just not true. I'll even quote my original argument:

>>18304662
>People in the 1950's were thinner but not particularly fit and significantly less healthy. They were all DYEL by today's standards.

That sentence is 100% accurate. I never once claimed modern Americans were fitter, only that 1950's people were not fit and were much less healthy.

>>18307108
Not an argument

Look at this cheese dish.

>>18304385
>you vill eat less animal protein and be happy goy

>>18307152
well god damn its real
mt cheddargoo is real!!

>>18307157
Cheese is interesting and dynamic, the food of go-getters.

>>18303025
it's "healthful" and "unhealthful". people are healthy or unhealthy, food is healthful or unhealthful.

>>18303025
All those ingredients are healthy are healthy if they aren’t processed except for the white bread. The problem is that the goyslop you get at fast food restaurants is extremely processed.

>>18303025
Outside of the white bread, all those ingredients are healthy if they aren’t processed/ have a bunch of shit added to them. The problem is that the goyslop you get at fast food restaurants is extremely processed and has tons of sneed oils and sugar added to it.

>>18307152
Looks like a volcano

>>18307102
It definitely is very bad for you to eat tons of salt. Countless studies on this. You don’t even need to eat any salt at all for optimal human health, a balanced diet contains plenty of sodium as it is.

>>18307202
Both are correct, you're just a dumb bitch

>>18307263
You need a tiny amount but nowhere near what people consume these days. You'd get enough sodium naturally through regular foods without adding any, but some strict plant based diets can actually give you sodium deficiency if you're enough of a vegan fag.

>>18307259
It does a bit, yes.

>when your cheese volcano goes prompt critical

>>18307279
Nice

>>18304540
I don't think people understand what nutrition is. Calories is not it.

>>18307109
It is healthy but it's very boring.

>>18307136
>>18307014
Retards IRL, can't even believe you two. most disingenuous posts i've ever seen on the site. truly on the level of the cartoonish badguys from Atlas Shrugged

>>18307396
Not an argument

>>18307136
>Africans are thinner too but they're not healthier than first worlders even with the obesity problem

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MO9B2jLOgw

LMFAO. These guys would absolutely destroy you in any metric of health or fitness. You keep dancing around some nebulous definition of health without providing anything concrete, when I can easily send over articles like this:
https://news.asu.edu/20170317-discoveries-despite-meat-heavy-diet-indigenous-tribe-has-world%E2%80%99s-healthiest-hearts-%E2%80%94-why
which show metrics in which uncontacted/tribal peoples mog post-industrialists in things like cholesterol, plaque, inflammation, and more. That isn't to say they wouldn't also mog people from the 50's, but that as time as gone on and pollution, post-industrial foods, and energy efficient means of travel become more ubiquitous, our decay will exponentially follow

>We're taller
Most of our height gains came well before the 50's

>healthier
lmao

>smarter
https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/13/health/falling-iq-scores-study-intl/index.html

>better fed
another non-starter. nutrition hasn't been an issue a real issue in a century. Over-indulgence in highly palatable processed foods, is new and only growing

>richer
The middle class is literally disappearing before our eyes but I am glad you can celebrate gdp growth held by a fraction of our population

>vastly superior technology

uh ok

>You just can't handle this because you want to pretend that the 50's were a better time and they weren't.

projection much?

>I never once claimed modern Americans were fitter, only that 1950's people were not fit and were much less healthy.

Let me get this right. So modern humans are less fit than 1950's humans, who were also not fit? Here comes the "healthy" word again.

>>18308229
Those people are not jumping very high at all.

>>18303268
Soda is empty calories
Beef and cheese are not
Bread and potatoes are both staple carb sources but fries are deep-fried which adds a lot of calories because of the oil which is generally less healthy than fats from beef and cheese
I know people are extremely ignorant about nutrition but it's still weird to see this kind of thing. What do you people talk about here all day, to not know basic things like the total calories of a hamburger which contains numerous different food groups is not equivalent to the same amount of calories from soda+fries?

>>18303025
*insert comment about goyslop*

>>18303033
But fast food patties are tiny, the ones most people would make at home would be bigger

>>18308229
>These guys would absolutely destroy you in any metric of health or fitness
Healh? No. Fitness? They'd beat me in cardo, but I mog all of them in strength. Besides, if you think that group is representative of an average African, you're mentally retarded. You also cherrypick shit too much.

>You keep dancing around some nebulous definition of health
I am doing no such thing. I am operating on the standard dictionary definition of health. You are the idiot that doesn't know what the word means.

>he unironically linked a media clickbait article about a specific group of Africans having healthy hearts as evidence that Africans are broadly healthier than Americans
It's like your mind is incapable of visualizing an average and you can only cherrypick extremes to try to justify your idiotic beliefs.

>Most of our height gains came well before the 50's
Wrong. Height gain was slow over most of history and jumped very dramatically in the last 100 years. We're 2-3 inches taller on average now than we were in 1950.

>he linked a second media clickbait article
>from CNN no less
Just lmao. And it's not a mystery why any of those countries have lowering IQ scores. They're all importing scores of brown people from third world shithole countries. The average world IQ has steadily risen with time. We are smarter now than we were in 1950. Not even up for debate. Not even the article you linked claims otherwise.

>nutrition hasn't been an issue a real issue in a century.
Wrong and stupid. It's still a massive issue now. I know your brain is rotted from /pol/ and you think everyone is an obese McDonald's regular, but it isn't reality.

>projection much?
No? Projection doesn't even make sense here. Do you even know what it means?

>So modern humans are less fit than 1950's humans
On average, slightly less fit, but I was never even arguing about that. Neither group of people is "fit" by the modern way we use it. We are, however, far healthier now than people were in 1950.

>>18303025
Who puts bell peppers in their burger?

>>18303025
>bread
>vegetables
>healthy
lol no

>>18308980
Or cucumber slices and shredded cheese.

>>18307353
yes it is you're fucking stupid shut up

Op is a scheduled bait post, remember to report for low quality next time

>>18304741
>Meme, ‘can cause cancer’ is equating correlation with causation.
Lol
stupidity aside, the other anon said a complete different thing, you can't just bring up alchool whenever tobacco comes up

>>18308893
>if you think that group is representative of an average African, you're mentally retarded.

The average african is a post-industrialist, you fucking buffoon.

>You also cherrypick shit too much.
says the retard with the completely arbitrary standards for what exemplifies good health

>I am operating on the standard dictionary definition of health.
>"the condition of being sound in body, mind, or spirit"
Ah yes, the average godless, depressed, obese American on a buffet of medication represents these attributes so resplendently

>he unironically linked a media clickbait article about a specific group of Africans having healthy hearts
If you actually clicked on the article and read literally the first line, you'd have seen this was a South American tribe, but I'm glad you could out yourself as a fucking moron speaking entirely out of his ass.

>as evidence that Africans are broadly healthier than Americans
But what's not what I am saying. How is anything cherrypicked about this? My point was about the health in uncontacted and indigenous peoples, who show time and time again to have superior biomarkers for health despite being ignorant of the circumstances that surround that

>We're 2-3 inches taller on average now than we were in 1950.
Taller people die sooner than shorter people on average. wouldn't this run counter to your fetishization of life expectancy? Or could it be that health is a complex and multifaceted thing that is sometimes contradictory?

>blah blah muh clickbait
shut the fuck up nerd and provide a source if you want to counter mine

>I know your brain is rotted from /pol/
Is the same dude who just went on a rant about 'brown people from third world shithole countries' lowering the average IQ of white countries? Are you legitimately schizophrenic or am I chatting with a bot?

>you think everyone is an obese McDonald's regular, but it isn't reality.
I don't know what this statement even means

>>18309979
U mad bro?

>>18309979
>The average african is a post-industrialist, you fucking buffoon.
The group you posted is not indicative of the average African and you know it. It's why you won't deny it and just deflected.

>says the retard with the completely arbitrary standards for what exemplifies good health
lol, my standards adhere to the dictionary definition.

>Ah yes, the average godless, depressed, obese American on a buffet of medication represents these attributes so resplendently
I like how you tried to cherrypick a definition yet again and misinterpret it as hard as possible. The dictionary does not say health is "the state of being thin, having a lot of muscle, being religious, and not taking any medication" you fucking dimwit. It is the state of being free of disease and in good condition in body and mind. Good condition of body does not require high physical fitness, as evidenced by the fact that many super fit or super muscly people live incredibly short lives due to their shitty health even though they're very fit.

The fact that you think the average American is "godless" speaks volumes about just how warped your worldview is. About 1 in 10 Americans aren't religious.

>If you actually clicked on the article and read literally the first line, you'd have seen this was a South American tribe, but I'm glad you could out yourself as a fucking moron speaking entirely out of his ass.
So basically your shit bait article was even less relevant to the conversation than I thought. And no, I didn't read that shitty article you linked because even the headline made it clear it had nothing to do with what we were talking about since it's such a narrow comparison as to be essentially meaningless.

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>Taller people die sooner than shorter people on average. wouldn't this run counter to your fetishization of life expectancy? Or could it be that health is a complex and multifaceted thing that is sometimes contradictory?
You literally shot your own argument in the foot here. My entire point has been that health is multifaceted. Yours is that health is fitness, belief in god, and not taking any medication. Also, you've misconstrued the point. Height is a plus when compared to people of the 1950's because we not only increased in life expectancy, but height as well. The taller people today do not have shorter lifespans than those of the 1950's even if taller people do, on average, die earlier which is an indicator against their general health when compared to modern short people.

>shut the fuck up nerd and provide a source if you want to counter mine
I don't even need to do that. The source you provided doesn't support your argument. It shows that those countries had rising IQs throughout history but that it went down recently. Then CNN plays dumb and ignores the blatantly obvious about why these European countries might have dropping IQs(mass influx of dumb immigrants). Our IQs worldwide are still significantly higher than they were in the 1950's. Your assertion was that IQ was getting worse. You were wrong.

>Is the same dude who just went on a rant about 'brown people from third world shithole countries' lowering the average IQ of white countries?
The one decent point you've made, though it's simply reality.

>I don't know what this statement even means
It means your view of the average American is warped.

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>>18310164
>The group you posted is not indicative of the average African and you know it.

There is zero purpose attempting to argue with someone who refuses to even read the posts I am making and just goes off on strawman tangents of their own design, but I am not sure what I should have expected from the mongoloid basing his understanding of health off of dictionary definitions. Please never reproduce.

>>18310183
>I give up, you win: the post
k bye