/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>18281553
>You wat to avoid the high linoeleic/omega 6 to omega 3 fatty acid ratio in seed oils.
Then you should also be recommending grass-fed or pastured animal products as they have more omega 3 and less omega 6. Grass-fed beef has a 4:1 ratio of omega 6 to 3 which is close to ideal but grain-fed can be 10:1 or even worse.

>>18281553
>avocado oil (without rancid oils mixed in)
anybody have a guide on this?

>>18281613
avoid av oil... tastes like shit. But good for seasoning cast iron.

>>18281623
Avocado oil is tasteless and bad for seasoning cast iron.

https://www.castironcollector.com/seasoning.php

>>18281553
finally a good thread

>>18281553
Corr looks lush mate, would scran

>>18281553
I love sunflower seed and canola oil.

>replace seed oil
>proceeds to recommend a seed oil
Coconut is a seed, dumbass.

>>18281553
for me, it's sunflower oil

>>18282554
but it's saturated. the problem with sneed oils are the high PUFA

For me, canola oil is a heart healthy, delicious alternative to unhealthy saturated fats! I personally love the flavor of it on my salads in place of expensive olive oil, so I can still have an authentic Italian flavor!

>>18281553
The whole "PUFA bad" meme should be "processed food low in micronutrients" desu
By cutting out seed oils, you cut out a lof of processed foods.

>>18282596
This basically applies to all meme diets too

keto
>no carbs = basically no fast food

vegan
>no meat = basically no fast food (except more recently)

Fasting
>Only so much fast food can be eaten in one sitting

>>18282600
I love watching people short circuit when I point this out, and that none of it is some secret magic trick

Thus thread is literally propaganda aimed at killing you. If you follow this diet advice you're going to die. Read a book.

I call them SNEED oils!

I call them that because that's exactly what they are, a broken promise. Everyone wants Chuck back but instead we're given Sneed...

We're all given Sneed in our diet every single day. Its in everything. Not because its good for us. But because they hate us and they want us to be sick and keep buying their medicine forever.

So where does high oelic peanut oil fit into this?

>>18282647
Deez Nuts oil

>>18282612
Okay I'll go read Mein Kampf.

>>18282596
Pufa just happens to be in 95% of processed foods, is even more refined than most carbs or proceed protein foods, and some research suggests it encourages your body to build fat faster.

If you cut processed foods and subsequently eat plenty of protein/vegetables in lard/butter, you will be healthier.

>>18282632
It's called Sneed because they want to feed you only with seed, so we should go back to what we ate formerly and chuck it.

>>18281553
>feeding your butter
do americans really?

>>18281553
>grass fed butter
Expensive
>lard, tallow
Flavor not neutral enough
>olive oil
Expensive
>coconut oil
Hardens on food after refrigeration, making it gross
>avocado oil
Expensive

>>18281553
How the fuck are coconuts and avocado's not seed oils?

>>18283330
Avocado oil comes from the flesh of the fruit, not the seed.

>>18283344
Seems dumb, avocado seeds are oily as hell. Might just fire up my own oil operation now.

>>18283316
You fucking tasteless cheapskate jew. How much do you make, $9 an hour? Kill yourself.

No. There is nothing like fresh vegetables from your garden cooled in your fridge then cut up in a salad and sprayed lightly and tossed with canola on a hot late summer day.

>>18283732
>>18282569
But canola has no flavor, ironic shitposter.

>>18283901
It's not meant for flavor dumbass. It's for mouthfeel. The ingredients in the salad are all you need.

Is there a big difference between grass fed butter and non?

>>18283909
I would never feed butter grass.

>>18283909
Grass-fed has more vitamin A and omega 3.

>>18283919
>>18283922
I mostly eat Land of the Lakes butter. Is that bad?

>>18283905
Just use applesauce then, it's lower calorie.

>>18283936
It's still better than highly processed vegetable oils. Some people claim grain-fed dairy causes inflammation because of the extra omega 6 it has. It might depend on your overall diet though, like if you eat a lot of fish that's high in omega 3 it might not make much of a difference. Grass-fed seems better though, but it's more expensive.

>>18283936
Land of lakes is more expensive than a store brand butter for not much more. Either get yourself cheaper butter and better meat/fish, or spend it on some grass fed butter.

>>18283961
>>18283969
I try eat relatively low amounts of fats. Maybe if I do that its less important what specific brand of product?

>>18283989
If you're eating lower fat, then make sure you're getting higher quality so you can get more Omega-3.

>>18284001
I eat Deenz and Salmon at least two times a week.

Sneed oil

>>18284008
Based then, I'd just say get some better butter because land of lakes is stupid expensive for no reason. I think Aldi has house brand grass fed butter.

>>18284014
I spend a relatively small amount of money on oils. I'll try to find grass fed.

>>18281553
can't spell worth shit, opinion ignored.

>>18281553
honestly as much as I like olive oil the idea of it being a healthy oil is kind of ehhh. It's much better than sneed oils but still has much more n-6 than butter. I would say good olive oil is in the same category as bad butter. Not especially bad for you but not great. You also have to worry about purity, same deal as avocado oil.

chuck oils

No problems with lard, tallow, or olive/avo oil, but you really can't call dairy fat or coconut fat "healthy". They are both pretty much just saturated fat, which you really do want to watch your intake of.

Also coconut oil is a seed oil...

>>18283936
You still buy that shit after they deleted the Indian lady because pictures of Indians are racist now?

>>18281553
how much longer until people stop believe bullshit clickbait articles with little research? Why are there so many retarded people here when it comes to getting information? Am I just autistic?

>>18285261

cool study, now find one that managed to replicate it

>>18283288
>some research
>links absolutely no research, not even a website
FUCKING RETARDS IN THIS GOD DAMN MOTHER FUCKIN BOARD CANT DO ANY OF THEIR OWN DAMN THINKING OR RESEARCH THEY HAVE NO FUCKIN IDEA MAN

>>18281553
butter/ghee and olive oil are the best

>>18285261
>saturated fat bad
>pufa sneed oil good

lol yea no thanks

>>18285261
implying thats a bad thing
>High LDL-C is inversely associated with mortality in most people over 60 years
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27292972/

>>18285322
CHAIM, CHAIM COME HERE THIS GENTILE IS BREAKING THE CONDITIONING! RELEASE ANOTHER STUDY, QUICK!

>>18285424
uhhhhh So the egg jews are now oil jews or something? Really stretching this thin.

Coconut oil, is a type of seed oil degus

Where does peanut oil stand
Because I fucking love using peanut oil

>>18285906
Can't let this thread die until I hear more about peanut oil.

>>18282612
Glowing.
>>18282700
Based.

>>18287585
>other
nigga what?

>>18285906
bad

>>18287585
Palm is okay, but it destroys the orangutan habitat
:(

>>18281553
>latest bad fat man bad trend
Seriously, you all are worse than gluten tards.

>>18288120
Is it really impossible that maybe some fats are less healthy than others?

>>18288124
Impossible? No. Likely that anyone here has the slightest fucking clue? No.

>>18288125
I'm a doctor

The bro-scientists are right in this case

>>18288139
My dad works for Nintendo.

>>18288120
Just only going to use animal, olive, or coconut fats. Also no vaxx for me thanks you can keep it haha

>>18288153
No way, mine too

>>18281553
Jeezus fuck, I can't believe you actually bought into this "seed oil" bullshit. If you're old enough to have a driver's license, you need to tear it up now and never again try to do something that requires the least amount of adult judgment.

>>18288319
your dick doesn't work I bet

>>18281553
>pork
>healthy

>>18289408
Based. Anon knows lard from pigs fed corn and soy are essentially PUFA filled vegetable oil

It matters what the animal eats. Jamon Iberico actually raises testosterone
>picrel

>>18289408
>pork
>unhealthy

>>18282554
so is avocado and olive
these idiots who go on about seed oils are fucking brainwashed poltards incapable of critical thinking
the healthiest oils are all seed oils

I swear it's some sort of pathetic Russian psyop to make westerners eat heart clogging crap. Tallow, lard and ghee are ridiculously unhealthy.

>>18281553
I'm not gonna fall for your attempt to sell more of your shitty meme oils like avocado. I will keep using sunflower oil and butter like I always have.

>>18289408
>>18289766
the duality of man

>>18289767
Avocado and olive oil come from the flesh. Just because they have seeds doesn't mean that's where all the oil is coming from.

Most vegetable oil is high in omega 6 and low in omega 3 which has been linked to inflammation. Good quality tallow/lard/ghee from grass-fed or pastured animals is much healthier in that regard. People have survived on animal fat even in large quantities for a long time without health problems. Vegetable shortening was one of the worst things to consume for heart health. Excess weight and lack of exercise are also obviously big problems for heart health and that affects most people these days.

>>18281553
Kill yourself contrarian idiot

>>18289807
Kill yourself with unhealthy mass-produced overly-processed "food"

How do people not just fry bacon every Sunday morning and have an infinite pool of lard as a result? You save so much money.

>>18289767
Goyslop shill detected. Saturated fats are not "heart clogging" fucking lol fuck off with that pseudoscience.

>>18285271
It's a systematic review you fucking illiterate

>muh SNEED oils
Meds

>>18291368

You're starting to sound like one of them

You sound like a, sneeder feeder!

>>18281553
You're missing the point of why some cultures use the above oils, higher smoke points and cost.

If light olive oil was cheaper, asians would be buying it up more but it is still about double the price/oz of seed and vegetable oils. The fats don't have a neutral flavor and cost is high if you don't cook a shitload of fatty meat already to make your own.

>>18281553
Yoy can eat literally whatever you want as long as you dont go retard with the portion size

>>18281553
>yet another seed oil schizo thread
This is actually starting to get old.

>>18281623
flax oil for cast iron.

But is peanut oil healthy?

>>18293838
If its produced the same way as corn, canola or other "vegetable" oils probably not.

>>18285261
>>18285322
LDL cholesterol is "good cholesterol," the kind not associated with heart disease

>>18281553
Olive oil is seed oil, retard. Your schizodiet is inconsistent af.

>>18294170
Other way around, HDL is the good stuf.

>>18294178
Olive oil is high linoleic acid. Avoid.

>>18281553
>Healthy fats:
Tallow (beef fat)
Lard (pork fat)
Butter o Ghee (clarified butter
They're not necessarily good fats. They have a lot of saturated fat and not much omega 3 fatty acids. Also, ever heard of this stuff called cholesterol? This is all stuff that causes heart disease.

A limited intake of seed oil is considered good fat too, high monounsaturated and polyunsaturated fat and low saturated fat with few exceptions. These all all associated with decrease in heart disease. Most are still too low in omega 3 fatty acids but can easily be supplemented with flaxseed oil.

>>18294182
>Other way around, HDL is the good stuf
this is what clogs your arteries

>>18294182
>>18281553
>eat animal fat
>eat saturated fat
>eat HDLC
OP is putting murderous fatjutsu on anon

>>18289836
they pour it down the sink

>>18283316
>olive oil
>expensive
Where the fuck do you live that you think olive oil is expensive? It's just like double the price of cheap neutral oils. Sure quality virgin olive oils are more expensive.

>>18281553
Okay faggot, I'm gonna buy some lard. Tell me how to use it for cooking. I can't just use it as a 1 to 1 replacement for oils right? Since it has a lot of other shit and probably a stronger flavor.
What foods do you cook with lard?

>>18294427
lard has no taste desu but it's more greasy than oily and would only use it for frying or baking

>>18293867
I was thinking because they are legumes that they might be different.

>>18289767
>Avocado and olive are seed oils

>>18295802
It's just that the oil comes from the pulp around the seeds.

>>18295929
So, not seed oils

Seed oils are processed with hexane at some point. They say it's all removed in the final product, but I know that's impossible from a processing perspective.
That alone had me drop them long ago.

>>18281553
>avocado oil
>coconut oil
fuck off shill. these are shitty estrogen bitch tits numale oils. the ONLY lubricants you should use in your food has and always will be OLIVE OIL, BUTTER, and LARD

>>18297051
>LARD
With the garbage that they to feed pigs I'm not sure about that.

>>18297059
then use baby oil, I don't give a fuck

>>18283316
>grass fed butter
>Expensive

lol its literally not. anyways, poorfags OUT!

>>18297153
you can't feed butter

>>18297157
formerly chuck butter

you can innately know which oils are okay by how they taste and smell. butter, olive oil, and pumpkin seed oil are the most delicious and best smelling.

>>18297190
>seed oil
kill yourself

>>18281623
Good for flavour. Not for frying. Add tomatoes and lime to whatever with it and it faintly gives a bacon taste.

>>18281553
Peanut oil is also good (unrefined or cold pressed) or just peanut butter if it's strictly just peanuts.

>>18281553
It was 30 years ago. I remember when it was on the news.

>>18289767
Olive oil is a fruit oil...

>>18297198
> t. never tried pumpkin seed oil and probably doesn't know anything about it but gets triggered by the word seed like a bitch

>>18294178
No it isnt dummy

>>18295802

>>18297267
why don't you choke on my seed you fucking faggot

>>18282647
I think fats with more saturated fats than high oleic peanut oil taste better.

For example, cocoa butter and coconut oil.

>>18283922
>Grass-fed has more vitamin A

If you can find oranges or carrots in your city, it doesn't matter.

>>18289807
Fuck off moron go stuff another MdDouble down your hog hole

>>18281553
I say this a lot, but how can you possibly think that YOUR science has only, just now, finally, gotten the facts right? and that everyone else who ever claimed to, after replacing the previous science, was wrong, even though they said all the same things you're saying now about evidence and studies... and yet came to utterly different conclusions, all mutually incompatible?

>>18294170
>>18294182
>>18294209
there is only one cholesterol

>>18297744
>there is only one cholesterol
has internet meme nutrition gone too far

>>18297694
You will find publications by scientists lauging at the idea that consuming omega 6 fats is good since it was proposed.

Scientists proved omega 6 fats are harmful a long time ago. The media didn't publish it. You don't get an accurate view of the state of science reading newspapers.

my great grandparents all lived into their 80s and 90s after a lifetime of eating stuff cooked in lard and butter

>>18297630
Animal products usually have higher bioavailability.

>>18297803

The vitamin a content of beef is very low compared to many vegetables. Oranges increase vitamin a a lot more than beef.

Eggs also have more vitamin a.

Consuming or not consuming beef is irrelevant to vitamin a consumption.

>>18297694
You will find publications by scientists laughing at the idea that consuming omega 6 fats is good since it was proposed.

Scientists proved omega 6 fats are harmful a long time ago. The media didn't publish it. You don't get an accurate view of the state of science reading newspapers.

>>18297834
Beef liver is extremely high in vitamin A.

mfw i see le heckin globohomorino putting the chonking seed oils in my specials good boy treatie-treats

thoughts on rice bran oil?

>>18281553
Avocado oil isn't good for you. Anytime someone is trying to sell you an industrial byproduct you should be suspicious. Avocado oil is an industrial byproduct

>>18281553
oh great, this fucking autism again

>>18298146
what is avocado oil an industrial byproduct of? a byproduct of crushing thousands of avacados to get their oil?

Imagine calling lipoproteins "cholesterol" and not realising you're a fucking retard who doesn't know what they're talking about.

>>18298146
Yeah I don't trust it either

>>18281553
avocado is a giant seed

>>18289767
"seed oils" is a shit term, the problem is linoleic acid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQmqVVmMB3k

>>18297802
as did everyone else up until the 20th century >>18300098. these days "no oil diet" is only practiced in civilized rural areas (see: not shithole rural).

Guys, I don't know what to believe anymore with regards to animal fats vs plant fats and their health effects. Mainstream science says that saturated fats like lard clog your arteries but a lot of people are saying that that's bullshit.

>>18299916
Why does the seed have a seed in it?

>>18301973
sneed

>>18281553
>replace seed oil fats with animal fats that are fed a steady diet of seeds and seed oils
you are disabled

>>18282569
Good bait

>>18282612
Yeah it gives a platform to rapeseed oil shills like you who want me to have a heart attack at 65

>>18302072
if you replace all of your oils with tallow and coconut oil you will die of a heart attack at 45

I never understood why rapeseed is supposed to be bad. It's high in monounsaturated fats, it has an excellent omega 3 to 6 ratio, it is neutral in flavour, high smoke point, and above all it is cheap as fuck. I'll continue to use it thanks. I understand being sceptical but that price can't be beat. Lard and olive oil have their place too but rapeseed is perfect for so many things.

>>18302138
The opposite actually. RCTs have tested this and Sneed oils will kill you more quickly

>>18302154
It's not bad. Seed oils = unhealthy is a meme, along with bullshit about "antinutrients" and so much more. Do not trust 4chan for your health.

>>18301964
feed a rat its body weight in saturated fat and see how well it does
most of the studies showing saturated fats are bad and unsaturated fats are good are bad science
what americans really need to do is stop eating like shit every day, moderation etc.

For me, canola oil is a heart healthy, delicious alternative to unhealthy saturated fats! I personally love the flavor of it on my salads in place of expensive olive oil, so I can still have an authentic Italian flavor!

>>18281553
the difference between saturated and unsaturated fat is going to be significantly bigger than that between high and low linoleic acid content, which by the way is going to have a negligible effect on your health
cis- vs. trans-fats are also going to have a much bigger impact
and as usual, next time post a source if you're making such a ridiculous claim
>>18300098
do people really watch AND take clickbait videos seriously?
is it an american thing specifically maybe?

>>18302754
>the whole second line
how can anybody take a post like that seriously?
you're stating something that goes directly against a commonly established notion, you don't post any source, offer no explanation, and the claim is so vague you clearly read it somewhere and didn't spend any time to check whether it's true
>most of the studies [...] are bad science
which studies?
what makes them bad science?
which studies reaching the same conclusions are good science instead?
if some studies reaching the same conclusion are good science then why do you make it seem like the conclusion that's been reached is the cause of the problem?

>>18303171

>>18283316
How much oil do you use, when you care about how much oil costs that much?