/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>Can a nigga survive solely on various stews and bread
Yeah? What do you think your ancestors ate?

>>18046332
Malnutrition is a meme, humans had shit variety in their diets for thousands of years.

>>18046332
Great Value brand: beans, brown rice, $1 lb pasta noodles, pasta sauces, oats
Cheapest whole wheat flour
Bar S hotdogs
Kroger brand canned collards (no other ingredients added, other brands have high sodium seasonings)

>>18046332
I've got you.

>>18046365
White rice is pure carb with no nutrients, brown rice is the way to go.

>>18046332
yea just buy in bulk and make your own bread, make large batches of stew and freeze the left overs

>>18046367
oats and potatoes are far better nutritionally speaking

>>18046377
Based now I have to check out king Arthur’s website.

>>18046342
living on stews is awesome. gimme some recipes

>>18046392
Yes, I listed oats >>18046358, but they are also significantly more expensive per number of meals.

>>18046418
its a bulk website so keep shipping costs in mind
https://www.webstaurantstore.com/restaurant-consumables.html

>>18046332
Yeah you can. Just make sure you have some kind of protein, vegetables, starches in the soup or stew. Make a big pot and eat it over a couple days.

>>18046418
There are cheaper whole wheat flours. I use Gold Medal.
>>18046358
I should add GV iodized salt to this. Add some to homemade unleavened whole wheat bread, beans, etc. but after cooking because iodine (which you need) is volatile in cooking heat. Get a large can for around 50 cents.

>>18046418
King Arthur and His Knights of the Round Table

>>18046332
Yeah. Just throw in frozen veggies, rice, and beans. That'll basically cover everything your body needs.

>>18046342
Medieval European peasants did not eat goyslob every day.
frying pans were established utensils. A Famiy was more likely to own a pan and a few clay pots than a big cast iron one.
They made wheat pancake like the mexicans do their tortillias as a side.
And most of the dishes were garnished with spiced wine

Stews are all the same, all recepies just consist o the same 4 basic techniques/steps:

1. brown the (cheap and tough) cuts of meat
2. brown veggies in the same pan with the fond
3. deglaze with stock/beer/wine/water/whatever
4. put it all into a pot with spices and simmer for hours

All stews essentially boil down to that(pun intended). Watch a bunch of videos on youtube, like food wishes ones for stews, and you'll get it. Andother cheap food you might want to consider are many types of beans which are dirt cheap and last a long time.

>>18046469
>Stews are all the same
split pea is different then beef stew

>>18046332
Yes, stews/soups and bread were the staple food in the olden times. You can throw anything in the stew and bread is cheap and easy to make.

>>18046506
>split pea
That's a soup without meat tho, not a stew.

>>18046527
my split pea soup is thicker then any stew and is loaded with carrots, ham and boiled down ham bone
is it really a soup at that point?

>>18046357
the human body can survive on fuck all but you will feel like shit and want to die.

>>18046466
>stew is goyslop
holy shit have sex

>>18046420
What proteins are you gonna be able to get hold of? You can make them vegetarian, but you'll need supplemental protein sources if you do.

>>18046332
Hun for cheap veggies that are on season, maybe a friendly farmer can sell you some eggs and veggies for a cheap cost. Learn how to preserve your own food to make the best value. You will be able to survive, all humanity has survived like that for all of history

>>18046618
That is a delightful stew.

>>18046666
>HAVE SEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEGS

>>18046332
Red beans and rice is killer if you spice it right, with a bit of meat (smoked sausage is fairly cheap)
From heart.org:
>The combination of beans and rice creates a complete protein. Beans alone and rice alone both lack certain essential amino acids. If eaten together, however, each contributes what the other is missing to form a complete protein.

>>18047782
wtf is a complete protéine

>>18046527
>not a stew
Where do you cunts get these misconceptions? Is it just that every stew you have ever had had meat in it?

>>18046756
>>>/pol/ please. we are repulsed by your existence

>>18046756
Baited for this exact response.

>>18047795
If the protein you eat has all the 9 types of amino acids you need to get from food, it is called a "complete protein."

>>18046332
Just eat rice n beans n multivitamins

>>18046466
>calling delicious homemade beef stew goyslop

What the fuck is wrong with kids these days?

>>18047936
>big sexy pouting man

>>18047936
>Replying to people like that instead of reporting & hiding their posts
Dumb phoneposter.

>>18046332
various stews sound perfectly fine. lentils, red lentils (high in protein), beans and of course yellow peas. spike with meat products to taste or leave out completely most of the week. with some bread, dont stress on bread too much. also if you cut out sugar completely (which is a luxury for stupid consumers at best anyway) in a week or two the food cravings completely go away, and you wont even get hungry.
t. living in poverty, 1 maybe 2 small meals a day, and alcohol

>>18047976
ESPECIALLY alcohol. Gin, London Dry

>stews and bread

Sure if you want to run out of money fast. A loaf of bread is like 6$ at walmart here, and meat is about 18$ a pound so I am not hoping you want meat.

If I could recommend anything, it would be to use that money to buy a bag of lentils and vitamin pills, which will give you everything you need for like a month.

>>18046358
>Bar S hotdogs
id rather go vegetarian than eat that shit.

>>18048114
>and meat is about 18$ a pound so I am not hoping you want meat
what cuts of meat are you getting that is $18 a lb?
what country are you in?

>>18048131
Im in canada, even our cheapest cuts are around 18$, for any premium level stuff like chicken thighs or ground beef is like 22-25$

>>18046332
Yes--And you're in the right place.
Fast food shills be DAMNED- the muthafukkkars know how to cooks some shit ON THE CHEAP!!
>YGMI

>>18048135
>Im in canada
are you in one of those oil rig towns in the middle of nowhere

maybe spam is a good deal where you are. can you go kill wild animals?

>>18048391

>>18048396

>>18046332
Stew is pretty much the ideal diet, you fool.
You literally can't go wrong with a nice stew.

>>18047782
>red beans and rice
post recipe

>>18046332
Potatoes, pearl barley, and lentils are a better way to bulk out your meals. Bread is one of the shittier ways. Save it to be a cheap occasional treat.

>>18048391
it's like you've been watching me and wrote down my exact formula

>>18048782
>post recipe
1 part red bean
1 part rice

>>18048794
thanks

>>18048782
>chorizo is coined and fried
>a blend of peppers onion and celery is added
> tomato paste
>a can of chili beans, a can of kidney beans, a can of black beans, a can of adzuki
>simmer until done
Simple as

>>18046332
I mix together a can of kidney beans, a can of corn, an onion and fry it before putting it on rice. It's decent.

>>18048800
bro, the water/stock????

>>18048797
add a packet of this shit and you'll be golden

>>18048800
>no garlic

>>18046367
its not like a shit ton of people primarily use rice as their energy source but ok

>>18048797
look up cajun seasoning, it's easy to make at home and you probably got it already.

Put whatever you want in a slow cooker and leave it all day or over night.

I just did that with chicken in tomato sauce with potato. However eating it first thing didnt really make a yummy breakfast. I put some cous cous with it after to make it less saucey. I have loads left.

I eat like a poorfag and I'm not even poor.

Oats and eggs for breakfast.
Frozen vegetables made into a burger patty.
bean stews and chillies
Salads with pasta, fish and herbs I grow.
Chickpea dishes, lentil dishes.
When I buy processed meat I use it like the russians do as the base for a stock, for instance I'll use spam to make a pea and ham soup.

eat BEANS

>>18048917

>>18048925

>>18048926
a

>>18048898
slow cookers are a meme, sure they're great for pot roasts but i see people cooking the dumbest shit in them that could be cooked better in a pot on the stove in 20 min

>>18046377
This is good stuff and if you drive to King Arthur in VT that bag is like $25 with no shipping

>>18046392
>cup cooked brown rice
>cup uncooked oats
>measuring by volume instead of weight
You might be retarded, sorry to tell you.

>>18046377
That's a ridiculous price for flour.

>>18048917
I thought this was wrong so I went and checked that exact can of kidney beans.
The entire can contains 20.4g of protein and says that is 40% of your daily intake.
But bean bioavailability is around 80% and kidney beans are not a complete protein so they need to be paired with other foods.

So to get your daily protein you'd need to eat 2.5 cans of beans, but actually 3 cans because of the bioavailability. That's to meet the pathetic 50g that's "recommended" based on old guidelines. But modern research seems to suggest 100g is a better target and even higher if you're exercising which equates to 6 cans of beans.

For comparison I just ate 500g of beef that cost me $8 on special and contains around 110g of protein (because of extra ingredients it's slightly lower than the expected 125g). That could have easily been two or even three meals if it was eaten by a normal person.

>>18048937
sorry i only took 30sec to fine a chart of what i know to be true
potatoes>oats>rice

>>18048939
do you mean on the ow or high side?

>>18048917
>240g net weight
>6.4 g protein / 100g
>15.36g protein / can
>50% of your daily protein
Nigga are you a small child?

>>18048966
>>18048953
needed to survive=/=needed to thrive

>>18048967
Dude, I live below the poverty line and I eat better than this destitute bean dish.

>>18048967
You need 0.36g per lb of bodyweight to survive. You're either an 85 lb child or a spooky skellington.

>>18046332
Don't be a miserable poorfag who eats chicken and oats, you can eat so much better for just as cheap. When I was really poor I used to steal spices, I had a whole fucking rack of stolen spices. Don't underestimate spices. I'd nab one or two every time I went to the store. Really saved my ass in college lmao. My roommate would also join in.

>>18048996
a good spice collection makes all the difference when you're a poorfag

>>18048814
I literally just made it 20 minutes ago and never needed any stock, the celery/capsicum produce enough liquid during the cooking process

>>18049001
Very much this.
Go to the weird ethic store and buy a variety of spices. It will last a long time and improve anything you cook immensely.

>>18048814
I literally just made it 20 minutes ago and never needed any stock, the celery/capsicum produce enough liquid during the cooking process

>>18046332
>survive solely on various stews and bread?
add salad
add variety soup batch to soup batch

If you shop like a mexican/latino/central american/caribbean person at their markets or buy in bulk might make do for a while with low cost big bags of onions, peppers, dried beans, tomatoes...you know for some sofrito making goodness, the mirepoix of soup bases, you'll be fine. Grow a few herb plants. Bags of oranges or frozen concentrates. Buy flour and yeast or shop the Flowers outlet, and remove sliced sandwich bread from the freezer to toast to order, prolly ok. $1 loss leader bread at wal-mart. Tortillas, arepa mix, masa, that kind of thing. Pat out some simple no yeast Indian flatbreads cooked in a skillet, like my mother's maid used to do with the chapati and kulcha breads.

The issue for price savings will be to buy the 12pk chicken breasts in bulk or loss leader rotisseries and freeze what you don't need to immediately eat, or else the only affordable meat will be fatty and cured. Buy entire pork loins, the upfront cost seems greater, but you can portion the loin in 30+ chops or 10 different recipes.

>>18049059
Looks pretty good, will try for myself. Do you use canned beans?

>>18049087
Yep, this used one can each of red kidney/black/cannellini/chilli beans

>>18049087
(other ingredients)
>4 chorizo
>1 red capsicum
>1 green capsicum
>2 onions
>4 stalks celery
>some pickled chillies
>spices

>>18049094
>>18049088
thanks a lot senpai, not sure if I can find chorizo but I can probably use nduja or something similar

>>18049111
andouille works great
so does kielbasa

these niggas eatin beans

>>18049145
you're ngmi

>>18046332
Don't forget to drink some lemon juice, or better yet put some on the stew while you're eating it.
I don't wanna see no fucking scurvy in 2022, understand?

>>18048114
>bag of lentils
Yes
>vitamin pills
No, pic related. Only people with some sort of disease or vitamin deficiency need to take vitamins otherwise it's a waste of money

>>18049240
>Forgetting pic

>>18046367
rice husks don't have a ton of nutrients, there's odd cases where very poor people were literally only eating rice where brown rice lead to better outcomes, but if you also have meat and beans and other stuff don't bother with the unpleasantness of brown rice

>>18049240
this
the only reasons I take them is because of kidney failure and a vitamin D deficiency, and they're prescriptions

>>18049244
They say that but I take a cum stack that makes me nut real hard so I don't believe them

>>18049244
>Diet and exercise are key
since OP is a poorfag it's same to assume he won't be worrying about either
so yes, in his case vitamins pills are a good idea

>>18049247
iirc brown rice is higher in arsenic too

>>18047954
>reporting shitposting that m*ds clearly allow
waste of time

>>18048853
energy and nutrients are different things son

>>18046332
Potatoes>>>any carb

>>18049303
quinoa>potatoes

>>18046332
Former poor here. This is was my cheep but nutricious roster:
>chili(with beans)
>borscht
>chicken curry with rice
>cock du vin(sounds expensive but look up a basic recipe and cut some corners, its not that expensive)
>stir fried rice, you only need 2-3 vegetables and a piece of cheap meat.
>chicken soup

>>18049329
>>stir fried rice, you only need 2-3 vegetables and a piece of cheap meat.
or do what cheap Chinese places do and use frozen mixed veggies

>>18049336
Isn't frozen supermarket fried rice technically ~0.50$ more expensive than doing it yourself. Also nutrients are important. OP is in dire straits, he has to go full jew mode.

>>18049359
no, I meant fry the rice yourself and use frozen veg

>>18049336
you can go to cheap peasant stores like save-a-lot and buy veggies that are about to go bad for dirt cheap then chop them up and freeze them
i just did a bunch of green peppers, enough to last me the month and its more convenient when i cooking to grab out some already prepped onions and peppers

>>18049329
This is solid advise. I make all of those regularly even though I'm no longer poor.
Cheap and easy doesn't mean it has to be shit.

>>18049059
Looks good

>>18049250
Your kidney failure causes your vitamin d deficiency.

>>18049247
>don't bother with the unpleasantness of brown rice
I eat brown rice occasionally, it's good
They are like half and sometimes 1/3 the price of white rice
I mostly eat buckwheat as a stomach filler tho

>>18046377
>I'm becoming extreme poor
>Suggest a premium flour
Wtf?

Real tip is eating cheap creakers

>>18046332
>>18049329
>>18049448
Forgot to mention to get spuces in bulk for cheap. If you don't account for seasonings you will go insane. For curry chicken I buy for 4$ a massive jar of curry powder that lasts me for ~7-8 months of stews.

>>18049526
because the next cheapest flour in bulk is garbage low protein and bromated and it's only like $4 cheaper for a 50lb bag
some times it's just not worth cheaping out
like with store brand soy sauce

>>18046654
Those same humans died at 30, mate.

>>18049599
That's a common misconception.
The average age was low because a lot of the babies died. If you made it through the first couple years you could quite comfortably live a long full life.

>>18049526
That's still a whole lot cheaper than supermarket bread. And it's more nutritious as well. Aka you need to eat far less before you're well fed. "Well fed", not "full with a growling stomach 30 mins later".

Good farmer's market bio vegetables cost a little more (not too much if you buy in season) but their quality is vastly superior.

>>18046420
You don't need recipes for stew. One of Belgium's national dishes is called "shit/stuff/mess/rubbish in water". There's recipes online to get you started, look for "waterzooi". If you want to do the authentic medieval recipe you make it with freshwater cod, burbot. You can make it with meat and/or fish, mushrooms, potatoes, leek, onions (those are top tier in this part of the world) whatever else. You add a little cream and that's it. 3 things you shouldn't add: beetroot, red wine and red cabbage, only reason is they turn the dish into a nasty, unappetizing brown.

>>18049589
Maybe in burgherland here we have nice flour negro.

>>18049624
Who fucks have the times to make bread every day?

>>18049487
When I was putting together a care packge for Ukraine, I got a 20 lb bag of rice for less than a 5 lb bag of buckwheat

>>18049658
>One of Belgium's national dishes is called "shit in water"
Do euros really?

>>18049658
>One of Belgium's national dishes is called "shit/stuff/mess/rubbish in water"
One of India's national dishes is called "shit in street"

>>18049730
we do as well and it's only $4 more for a 50lbs sack

>>18046332
>can a person survive on cooking their own food
Fucking Americans.

>>18046332
>Can a nigga survive solely on various stews and bread?
Yes. Learn to do a bean goulash.

Not op but thanks everyone for resources/tips posted in this thread beanfags unite

>>18047815
who's this 'we', rabbi?
>rent free

>>18048917
>>18048925
>>18048926
>>18048931

>>18046392
I never really get the point of these comparisons. Sure one is better, but surely you should just get both? I mean just sticking to oats or brown rice is going to be really boring and you'll give up on it pretty quickly if there's no variety

>>18047954
>reporting
new lol

>>18050291
so you know which one to buy more of when you're on a limited budget and vitamin deficiencies are a concern

>>18046332
Here's a cheap breakfast.
Chilaquiles
You will need Corn Tortillas about $3.50 for a package of 80
A jar of nice Red or Green salsa. something you like that isn't t pricey. You can get a good one for about $2 for 24oz
Refried beans usually runs about $1-1.5 for 16 oz can.
some decent but not expensive cheese like colby jack. you can get a small 8oz block of store brand for about $2 you wont need much.
Sour cream which run about $2 for 16 oz.
Some onion say 1/4 to a half of one usually a bag of 3lb runs $3.50
a couple eggs these are rising in price but right now they are running about $1.75 for a dozen
A bit of butter and a bit of oil negligible cost.

You will need to cut up some tortillas 3 or 4 in 4ths and fry them up some or bake them till they are mostly crisp and reserve them. in another pan add a bit of tiny bit of oil and add in some of the refried beans i like about 4 oz you might like more just be sure to heat it up and make a few crispy bits, plate them when when they are done to your liking and sprinkle on a small bit of shredded cheese, wipe out the pan you did the beans in and add some butter or oil and sautee some onions season them how you like i like to dash them with some cumin and salt, when they have some nice brown coloring plate them, plop a dollup of sour cream on the plate, now take all the semi crisp tortilla wedges you made put them in a skillet mix up some salsa like 2 table spoons and an equal amount of water. pour this in the pan with the tortillas and let it simmer a bit let them get soft and plate that up, sprinkle a bit of cheese over that, fry up two eggs and place them on top salt and pepper to taste.

Overall this breakfast should be filling and would cost about $1.25-$1.50 depending on the items you have available and prices could be more if your area is expensive.

>>18049942
I can't laugh at this shit, that's probably one of my worst nightmares

>>18048962
Eh, I'd say average

You can get 5lb flour for $2.50-$4.50 at retail

>>18046420
My family always likes this one. You get 4 big portions out of a single can, more if you make dumplings too

-Corned beef (340g can, usually)
-Potatoes
-onion
-Passata (or ketchup if you're ghetto)
-Garlic, onion powder, Basically whatever you like in a tomatoey sauce. You can also add chilli and other stuff if you like spice. It's really up to what you like
-Some veg. Canned is fine, I usually add peas and sweetcorn, for texture, but beans are also a good option
Beef stock, or stock cubes, or even gravy granules if that's all you have

Dumplings are optional but great, 50g of suet combined with 100g of self raising flour, with just enough water to make it stick together. Add a little salt, and parsley and thyme if you're feeling gourmet. Roll it into 8 balls and add to the stew 30 minutes before serving. I normally make a lot though

Cooking is simple, add ingredients to pot, cook until everything is edible. Or, add it to a slow cooker and put it on for 8 hours.

Serve it over rice if you're really stretching it, or just on it's own. Goes well with bread. You can add other sauces once cooked, some people in my family add ketchup, others add BBQ, others add hot sauce. Again, up to you. It's simple, but delicious.

>>18049768
You can't judge a continent's cuisine on the dutch part of belgium, that's not fair.

>>18046466
>A Famiy was more likely to own a pan and a few clay pots than a big cast iron one.
Cauldrons were extremely common in medieval Europe, at least north of the Alps, though poorer people would have used one made of pot rather than metal. They were probably often a cherished possession of cooks, even heirlooms that were handed down from mother to daughter. Note that at that time in that part of the world, fuel for the fire was relatively available and cheap.
Most people ate stews because they were a great way to make not-so-great ingredients into nice food. We can do better by starting with good ingredients, but the principles haven't changed much; stews are good food, and rightfully a traditional cornerstone of much of the world's cuisine.

>>18050631
If the US can judge the EU on that, they let themselves be judged on what's available in Bumfuck, Idaho. Them's the rules.

Dairy and potatoes give you just about everything you need, nutritionally speaking.

>>18046466
>Peas porridge hot, peas porridge cold,
>Peas porridge in the pot, nine days old;
its a song so old no one know it's origin

>>18046367
Rice in the United States is enriched with extra vitamins by law. If you don't rinse it off then you can survive entirely on rice and beans and you'll be completely fine.

>>18049761
>Care package for ukraine
Lmao

>>18048782
This is a decent recipe
https://www.food.com/recipe/chef-pauls-red-bean-s-and-rice-with-ham-hocks-310891

>>18046332
Buy big bags of rice, the bags Asians buy.
Buy a sack of potato.
Frozen veggies are cheap and long store life / buy veggies about to go off for cheap and throw them into the rice/potatos.

Eggs are also cheap, just use sauses / seasonings to change up the flavour of everything.

>>18048856
Ignore this faggot and any other queer who talks about “Cajun seasoning”

>>18048396
how poor are you or whoever made this?

>>18046756
complete with the rageface 2.0
god i fucking hate you reddit immigrants

>>18046332
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghUQljxRitk&list=PLYRx9e6PeSoJ7Bjn24q_AMSiWzCqEH962

>>18046332
>I'm about to become extremely fucking poor for an undetermined amount of time

Get a job, poorfag

>>18052074
I'm doing decently atm, can't speak for whoever made this, when I saved this image I was working a min wage job while trying to bulk(dumb I know) and these helped me through it all until I finished college and finally got a good job. I keep this pics around just in case anyway else needs the same help I needed

>>18049251
What do you take? I only take zinc at the moment.

>>18046358
Whatever you do, don't eat hotdogs. Even rice is better than that shit

>>18052759
They're not great for you but even the poorest fag needs some variety, plus I mean it has got complete protein since it's at least theoretically animal protein so you don't have to eat beans with your rice every time

I think outside of sandwich paste that we have here in the UK, it's the cheapest meat. A can of 8 is 50p. A box of sandwich sliced meat is usually at least a pound, or 80p for "chicken roll" which is basically mechanically separated chicken meat glued into a tube and sliced. The cheapest actual meat I've found is £1.50 in a huge supermarket for 80% beef mince, which is actuallly pretty good since I like a thicker mince than most places do and they do mince it with a wider grate than most other stores for some reason. I don't know why, even their more expensive versions mince their beef super thin, like spaghetti width.

Corned beef can go a long way too, if you're doing a stew. But really, if you're in the situation of buying bulk flour, beans and rice just to live, then phone up a local food bank. you're literally the ones they're there to help. They don't want to give most of their stuff away to junkies and single mothers who have different numbers of kids every time, they're just the ones shameless enough to do it. Don't feel embarrassed, you don't have to tell them your story and even if you do, it's likely you're probably the most deserving person they've met all day

>>18046332
Unironically you'll fucking thrive on just stew and bread

Where do I buy meat in bulk? I've heard a while ago that buying like half a cow is the best bang for your buck but surely shipping would inflate the price.

>>18053000
You generally buy direct from the laughter house

>>18053310
I could use some cheering up, now you mention it