/ck/ - Food & Cooking

Nothing says "climate conscious" like using 1000x the energy to grow a tasteless slab of mystery meat

>>17987568
>zebra sushi rolls
Thats like eating raw horse meat wtf would anyone want that?

>>17987568
its stupid, uses more earth resources to make the sloppa, hard pass

>>17987571
>>17987580
It uses basically zero energy and resources and makes meat free.

It’s real meat. Growing without a head. Being fed mulch and water.

Infinite free wagyu for all!

>>17987574
I would.

>>17987568
wondering how long this takes to grow and how much energy it costs to create it.
maybe in 20 years but now its the "too much money for a shitty product" because new

>>17987568
it's neat, I'd try it, but I'd rather my meat come from an animal and not a lab.

All of these stories smell like r/futurology bullshit. What's the actual process used to produce "lab-grown" steaks like this? Do they have a whole tiger hooked up to life support, or are they growing tissue in vitro? Do we really have the technology to grow entire muscle groups with connective tissue in vitro? When did that happen at a scale suitable for commercial meat production?

>>17987609
It costs no energy. You can make the meat plant grow rapidly like vines and fill deserts with meat.

It makes meat free.

>>17987615
Does it require death if it’s the same thing?
It’s real meat.
You can even use your own meat samples and make cultured-meat at home.

>>17987628
>>17987591
fake and gay

>>17987627
Look it up.

You take a meat sample, and it is continued to be fed nutrients and it just grows exponentially.

Meat is not much different from a plant or fungus.
If it is still fed the right stuff, it’ll keep living and growing.

This breaks the game.
Game-breaking like the salt-water rice that China just invented.

It doesn't have nutrients, and its mostly indigestible. That's why they want you to eat it, you're their slaves.

>>17987635
Gotcha. r/futurology bullshit from a /ck/ shitposter. Natch.

>>17987630
What scares you?
It’s meat.

It’s scarier to think of how animals are treated and that humans aren’t treated much better. Animals are just humans that can’t talk.

>>17987635
What nutrients is it fed?

>>17987639
>>17987637
Free real meat is free real meat.

You can write any story but it’s not going to change that this is real progress.

>>17987649
What kind of bot are you?

>>17987628
it's not the same thing though. one is from a lab one is from an animal.

>>17987642
>Animals are just humans that can’t talk.
and there we go. no they aren't.

>>17987646
Look it up.
I think it’s typical biomatter like what you get in grass. Mulch and water. And just fed tons and made to grow really really fast.

>>17987658
I’m an Angel sent from god to destroy all the evil and sucky-ness of this world. The only god and power is love and there’s nothing that anyone can do to stop people like me.

Also, every country is doing this. It purely empowers everyone ever more.

>>17987568
pitching? Wake me up when i can buy it

>>17987675
It is real meat.

>>17987679
Give me a good reason not to eat you.

The life of an evil person has less value than the life of a humble sheep.

>>17987684
this but get me a fucking dinosaur steak

>>17987686
Do you have any statistics on the energy costs of the process?

>>17987691
yeah it's like 100-150 on average

>>17987690
We can do that if we get a little dinosaur matter or can find out what its matters chemical composition is.

And we know it’s similar to chicken meat.

>>17987691
Go look it up.
It inevitably null.
We can grow planets made of pure wagyu.

Besides, good GMOs are on the rise too.
I want house sized peaches.
And to live in mountain sized trees.

>>17987686
I am human, and there are laws against it, if there was, I have no problem with consensual cannibalism, animals can't consent because they are property. and exist at our fiat for the purpose of consumption.

>>17987697
100-150 whats to what?
Watts to grams? Shekels to hectares? Hogsheads to fortnights?

>>17987704
yeah sometimes like 175 but that's pretty rare I'm talking the average case obviously

>>17987700
>So much money is poured into meat labs, but even with that amount of money, the product still has a carbon footprint that is roughly five times the carbon footprint of chicken and ten times higher than plant-based processed meat

>>17987703
You are my property so I shall now eat you.

Might makes right?

Morals are actually real and either learn that they are ever greater love or meet your morals.

>>17987711
Next thing you’ll say is that we shouldn’t have EVs because the batteries get put in landfills.

Go stick to your gas-chamber cities and eating people unknowingly in your hamburgers.

>>17987591
You're literally so retarded.

>>17987729
And we’re on the threshold of infinite innovation and free food for all.

>>17987732
You prefer dystopia?

I choose heaven for all on earth.

>>17987724
morals are subjective and relative, but that's besides the point. 1) morals can't be applied to animals, they have no moral agency, so can not act or be acted upon immorally. 2) might doesn't make right, intelligence does. when cows have a globe spanning high tech civilization, they are free to eat all the lower animals they want.

>>17987711
Have any synth meats (not the plant shit) actually entered into volume production yet?

>>17987738
Dystopia is birthed when retards try to make utopia

>>17987724
How fast can you run a mile with that gaping tranny hole of yours?

>>17987740
You have no moral agency, so can not act or be acted upon immorally.
You have no intelligence so I am free to eat you because you’re a lower animal that dares stand in the way of true progress.

Real goodness is good for all.
Now get in my mouth and become my potbelly.

>>17987741
This is real meat.
It’s like cutting a cows head off and continuing to feed the body air and and food through tubes.

>>17987760
I have moral agency evidenced by the fact that I reject yours, and so far I've demonstrated more intelligence than you. there is no "real goodness"

>>17987750
Says the person who is un-ironically scared of cultured meats.

Describe your utopia. I’d love to hear it.

But there is only one true utopia. And I’m here to make all who desire to be immortal almighty gods into immortal almighty gods. Want to be mortal? That’s your life, not mine.

>>17987752
You sure are sensitive for a pork-chop.

>>17987776
utopia cannot exist without authoritarianism, because we don't all want the same things. the best we can get is a post scarcity society where all materials goods of any type are available to anyone who wants them.

>>17987729
>because the batteries get put in landfills

And produce toxic chemical lakes mining the raw materials but it's relegated to vassal states where people like you don't have to see it everyday. On top of the loss of efficiency turning fuel to electricity to charge said battery( the majority of electricity still coming from oil and coal with "alternative energies" being a tax scam that has never turned a profit. Even nuclear requires more money/resources to run and maintain than it produces in electricity). You would legitimaly use less fossil fuels driving an old used geo metro than any new electric vehicle

>>17987773
If there’s no such thing as goodness then what’s moral agency to you?

Get in my stomach. You are less of a person than any sheep, cow, chicken, or pig.

>>17987789
Ok, I’m your authoritarian leader.
And I choose cultured-meats to support this post scarcity world.

And I institute a real and ever innovative democracy. Antitrust laws, no money in lobbying, etc.

>>17987797
Go huff gas and die.
Not into gassy cars and gas chamber cities.

Innovation ever progressing.

For example

https://www.solarreviews.com/blog/solar-paint-hydrogen-quantum-dot-perovskite-solar-cells

>>17987809
you must be 18 years or older and not a tranny to post here

>>17987809
Progress is a Hobbesian myth, and only a naive fool would believe in the "just around the corner for sure" retoric used to milk governments for funding

>>17987568
Yeah it's alright. I think it's affordable to mass produce it will really help out the climate situation and help ensure affordable protein in the dark days ahead.

Bet your ass the cattle lobby is gonna demonize it though. It's already becoming associated with the left.

>>17987809
you aren't my leader. we don't want the same things.

>>17987814
You’re one of those invader spammers that came over the past 4 years that actually hate 4chan eh?

>>17987858
Progress is the only reason society exists.

>>17987868
There is no left or right.
And the world is only getting better in spite of all badness.

Humanity always learns.

>>17987889
Sorry, I’m authoritarian. As you asked and want. So you don’t have a choice.

Take your LSD and get pegged by your mandated super cutie tomboy brat.

>>17987799
>fi there’s no such thing as goodness then what’s moral agency to you?

deciding what I find to be good. there is no objective definition, just a subjective one relative to what I find bad.

lol they did "lion" and "tiger" because you need fetal cells to grow meat in a lab. Bovine fetal cells are expensive and cow pregnancies are long compared to... house cats. This is house cat meat lol!

>>17987893
the thing about authoritarianism, is that it doesn't work there's always a bigger fish.

>>17987680
i love you

I will not eat the bugs

Can it get out of the damn lab already?
Fuck ethics, I want genetically engineered catgirls

>>17987628
>It costs no energy.
this does not happen

there is no reason that all the mystery meat goyslop (burgers, kebab etc) can't be lab grown. fight me.

>>17988072
This.
Honestly I’m all for lab grown meat, but OP is being such a fag about it that I’m gonna eat some field grown, bullet fed steak right now.

>>17987894
Sooo you just make it up as you go and no one should take what you say seriously especially since you don’t seem to desire a truly good world for all.

>>17987897
It has nothing to do with fetal cells

https://www.latimes.com/food/dailydish/la-dd-bitelabs-make-salami-celebrity-tissue-samples-20140304-story.html

Any sample can be used. Including samples from your arm.

>>17987900
I’m in the biggest fish. I’m the spirit of heaven for all. True goodness is good for all.

>>17987902
I love you too.
Rule the world absolute and unconditionally. It’s all yours.
The future is good. And ever better.

>>17988063
Ok.

>>17988072
Yes. You can do this tech at home.

Yes. We need genetic engineering. Turning everyone into almighty immortal magical gods.
This tech is a gateway.

>>17988080
It’s like if you genetically modified a redwood tree to grow as fast as a weed and as big as a mountain.

Cultured meat just needs water and mulch. And sometimes perhaps certain minerals.

Besides, solar-paint exists so energy is about to never be a problem.

>>17988083
Yeah, this is way better because it simply is REAL meat.
It’s just meat.
Made to grow without a head.

>>17988105
You’re such a baby.

>>17987591
Yeah I mean being dependent on technology and requiring fetal bovine serum by killing pregnant cows its totally zero resources.

Seriously have you ever fucking gone outside and seen how life works or do you need talking heads to explain that to you also?

>>17987776
Nigga are you that "I want to be in a consensual hive mind" psycho? Literal cult bait. How broken of a person are you to allow yourself to become domesticated enough to willingly become livestock.

Death is a necessary part of life. I know you cant wrap your brain around it but mortality exists for a reason. You will die and all your tranny ideas will die with it (and Im not talking about transgenderism)

Sorry I am Jewish and this isn't kosher.
>it is be-
Not part of my part of Judaism, you are antisemitic btw.

What are the additives and are the nutrients roughly the same? Is what I want to know.

>>17987568
if it was just like normal meat except cheaper and used less energy to be made then yeah i would love to have an alternative to meat that is now becoming very expensive

what's with the schizo anime spammer?

How is this guy still not permabanned.