/ck/ - Food & Cooking

Always been a supporter of beaning de chili.
Kidney beans and black beans, get that pinto bean shit outta here.

OP here, I'm gay if that matters.

No meat, only beans.

>>17892721

it's all good to me and that looks great with that mayonnaise

>>17892686
Sometimes I like hominy. Better than beans in my opinion.

>>17892686
I'm partial to chili con frijoles sin carne, but i'm happy to have meat in my chili.

>>17892686
It can be both. I prefer beans though.
Beanless chili with large chunks of beef is acceptable, but beanless chili with ground beef is nothing more than hotdog topping.

>>17892753
hominy really is great in chili. I like using hominy and black beans

>>17892721
FUCKING ANIMAL

>>17892686
I like it with beans. It puts more emphasis on the pre-Columbian origin this way.

>>17892878
Yeah that sounds really good.

>>17892785
>chili con frijoles
Do you also say cheeseburger with cheese?

>>17892686
Kidney beans are a necessity in chili.

>>17892686
beans? no
mayonnaise? yes

>>17892686
Beans AND pasta this is mine from tonight

>>17893220

>>17892686
I like beans and they stretch the chili so IMO they're a net positive.

What are your go-to chili ingredients? Fo me it's

90/10 groud beef
Tomato sauce (non chunky)
1 unit of spicy tomato sauce
Black beans
Chili powder
Cayenne pepper
Pepper
Salt
Garlic

I know it's pretty basic so what are some other things to add to spice it up?

>>17893452
The smallest can of this stuff is about 79 cents and will impart a nice funky flavor to an entire pot.

>>17893516
Well how big a pot do you use that for? I only have a small slow cooker (I think 2 quarts)

>>17893655
I've never really paid attention to the volume but touching off rough points from memory I use 2lbs of beef, 2 onions and a cup of beef broth along with 2 cans of crushed tomatoes and a can of kidney beans. That's the bulk of it, obviously also spices & such and sometimes I'll use more meat if I have some that I'm worried about going bad.

>>17892686
How is this a debate at all?

>Debate of the century: Does butter go on bread?

>>17892686
my mama made it with beans so beans it will be

>>17892686
no beans, I prefer chunks of steak.

I add 2 cans of beans in tomato sauce and 1 can of kidney beans

>>17892686
Why is it 50/50 bean to meat ratio.
Beans should only be 25% also more chunky tomato is good.

>>17893516
i prefer the chipotle in adobo sauce

>>17892686
No beans.

/ck/ makes some pretty grim chili

>>17893879
Why can’t you have both?

>>17894287
That's what my dad used, I was actually looking for that when I found the pickled version that I now use.

>>17892686
Beans if the chili is the main dish, no beans if it's a topping.

Beans are more food and don't change much. I eat calorie dense food because I'm a twig so more calories the better.

>>17892686
Never had chili but I vote for beans :]

>>17894319
because beans don’t belong in chili

>>17894309
Show your chilli

no beans
no tomato
meat and peppers only

Beans in chili, simple as. You can fuck off with your sour cream.

>>17894325
i will give them a shot

i’ve eaten it all my life as pictured in op’s pic. anything else would feel like randomly excluding a main ingredient. wouldn’t even be chili without beans. and for sure a bit of cheese + sour cream.
i agree with the anon that said chunks of steak, despite their beanlessness.

>>17894309
Show your chilli ;)

>>17893452
habanero, whole garlic cloves, mexican oregano, 1/2 a stock pot, dried pepper puree, sprinkle of chocolate and coffee

>>17894387
Why? What the fuck is wrong with beans? And isn’t it one state that rees about beans in chili? Get the fuck out minority, you beanless niggers are the affirmative action of chili

I've never understood this autism.
Is it an American thing?

>>17895222
yes
there will be the cowboy telling you a chili is just beef cubes and steak strips that you sear in a pot and simmer with whatever the ranchers used to have with them at that time

theres the fast food wagie who uses old fried up burger patties and tomato paste to make a vaguely salty tasting brown sludge

there is also the european who will add cans of "mexican mix" sweet corn, bay leaf to recreate his tex mex fantasy

at this point its just spicy spagbol without the spag

MMmMmMmMbmeans ᘛ⁐̤ᕐᐷ

>>17893102
This is either bait or you are legit retarded. Both could equally be possible.

>>17892686
No beans, over rice.

>>17895238
my bolognese and chilli recipes are very similar. Just the chilli has kidney beans, cumin, coriander and chilli, whilst the bolognese has garlic, worcestershire sauce, oregano and bay leaves.

>>17892948
>chili
>pre-columbian

>>17892686
Anon has already established chili is a "what's in the pantry" type of dish. Beans have a place in chili but aren't required.

And even though meat often isn't stored in a pantry, you may also boil meat in chili. I hope no one finds that controversial.

>>17894309
Before I ask you to show me your chilli, I should first verify: are you 18 or over?

>>17895882
beans add some fiber and weight to an otherwise very (expensive) beef dish
beans also ferment a bit so they might spoil the dish if you plan on keeping it over a couple of days

>>17895981
>beans also ferment a bit so they might spoil the dish if you plan on keeping it over a couple of days
Won't happen if you're using a fridge...

No beans

>>17895996
cattle ranchers did not have fridges, so...?

>>17895882
>boil
that's disgusting, its chilli not stew
you want those crispy bits of flavor that cut through everything not soggy tomato flavored gray matter
you also have to deal with that extra grease

>>17896014
>t. cattle rancher

>>17896020
>complaining about soggy chili
lol the performance artist showed up

>>17896021
how angry do you think cows would be if they comprehended that we are arguing on how best to prepare them

>>17896027
we are talking about meat here, since when is chili "crispy"?

>>17896028
Not as angry as the thread's new resident performance artist
>>17896038
Exactly, not sure why that even came up

>boiling minced meat

haha look at me im shitposting

>>17896045
he probably enjoys his chili extra runny

>>17896079
>>17896079
Runny would make for an outlier chili consistency, but still closer to the classic than "crispy" chili.

>>17896004
looks right. What's your 'cipe

>>17894309
>anon posts a pot of goulash
>gets called out
>full damage control
based ck

Wisconsin style.
Apparently President Obama’s favorite.

>>17892740
it's cool whip and banana liquorice ropes

>>17894564
chocolate i like, and i have used hot chocolate powder too before. never heard of coffee, that sounds interesting.

>>17892686
chili to eat by itself Beans.Chili on beef frank hotdogs No beans

>>17896119
you brown the meat
it gets crispy
then you deglaze
stop posting if youre not being ironic about it plz

>>17896167
the heat of the salsa sweats the cheese

>>17896205
Great. Do all that, then slow cook it long enough to plausibly call it chili. No more crispy.
>stop posting if youre not being ironic about it plz
indeed

Well... It's name is "chili con carne". Which is meat and chili. By that virtue, Texan chili-purists say that beans don't belong in there. But they also use onion and cumin. So, it's not easy to say whether or not beans BELONG in a traditional chili or not. Other anons say, no beans it it's a topping for hotdogs or whatever, but beans if it's the main dish.
Honestly, I don't get how people do dried beans and chili in the same pot from scratch. They just don't cook the same way at all.
What I do, is I make a lot of chili ahead of time. No beans. Freeze down in small containers. Then I'll make a big pot of beans seperately. Generously salted cannelini beans, and then heat up leftover chili, and pour it over the top. It's the best way. Both chili purists and beans-in-chili fags can go get fucked.

>>17896418
Most people probably use canned beans but if you don't understand how to incorporate dried beans into chili then you're probably making shitty chili.

>>17896286
>slowcooking your spaghetti sauce
hope you cooked it with red wine

-beans
+corn

>>17892686
Are beans not a core ingredient in chili? I didn't even realize you could make it without beans and still call it chili

>>17896505
>t. doesn't know bolognese has meat
No one tell him!

>>17896167
>Obama loves chili, serves two terms
>Trump hates chili, kicked out in a landslide election after one
Chili is a true reflection of a man’s character.

>>17896626
This is good >>17896004

>>17896686
Might be good, but it's definitely not chili.

>>17896744
Right? That chili meat had zero crispiness.

I always like putting beans in my chili, adds a bit of variety along with the meat. I understand if you don't like beans in chili but I don't get why people who don't like beans in chili always act like there's some law that says "chili can't have beans in it". fucking texans

>>17896794
Anyone who cares either way is a fag.

Would rather have a beef curry than chili.

>>17893879
Horrendous

>>17894577
Yes, and that one state is Arizona. The vast majority of Texans have a laid back approach to chili. Brisket, on the other hand...

>>17893879
And if you had to rate your preferred crispiness for steak chunks in chili, what would you choose on a scale of 1 - 10 (in reference to the Mohs Crispiness Scale)?

>>17893220
tried once and it sucked

>>17896480
Idk how to incorporate dried beans into anything, I've never used them

>>17892686
For me it's no beans. I used to make chili with beans and it tastes good, I like a bean chili, but after I started making Texas style chili I've never looked back. Both are good but the chilies and meat only version has so much more potential.

>>17897018
I hope you load it well with peppers/paprikas and tomatoes then, eating just boiled meat as a meal is peasantry

>>17896600

>>17895311
you can't just call bolognese whatever you want. It is a set recipe

>>17897073
That's reasonable. Some seethers launch into full-on performance art no matter how many locally foraged herbs and vegetables are included with boiled meat.

>>17897073
tomatoes aren't part of chili
chili is not a tomato sauce

>>17897161
>chili is not a tomato sauce
No one said it's a sauce.
Chili is obviously a soup.

>>17892686
lots of beans, meat & corn. but no cheese you sicko

>>17897162
chili should not be runny

>>17892686
Chili without beans is a sauce.

>>17892686
Chili as a meal: beans
Chili as a topping: no beans

I know full well that "real chili has no beans" but unless I'm selling it as authentic chili con carne then who the fuck cares?

>>17897219
>who the fuck cares?
Who the fuck cares to begin with? Chili is a cowboy scrap meal.

>>17897219
chili doesn't need beans to be a meal
You're just a shit and can't admit you make bad food

>>17897226
>>17897226
Cowboys were well known to turn their noses up at boiled meat

sorry texas beans makes it a meal

>>17897226
Lived in Texas for a decade, they care A LOT. Showing up to a cookout with a pot of bean chili was basically asking to be berated by the resident autismo
>>17897233
And there he is

>>17897242
>Showing up to a cookout
here's your first mistake

>>17897242
someone's got a chip on his shoulder because he makes bad chili

>>17897247
You may find this hard to believe, but some people manage to forge social relationships called friendships and even go outside(touching grass even!) with those friends to share a meal. Wild shit, but I've seen it happen.

>>17897183
a sauce with lots of beans?. sounds awesome fart breath
for me chili should have no beans

>>17897258
you sound like you look ugly

>>17897256
Someone's got a stick up her ass because she won't deviate from the "totally authentic" recipe

Go boil some chicken Trevor

>>17897256
>>17897256
that was a meat chip, chips being crispy and hence destined for inclusion in chili. He just set it aside on his shoulder to prep the other ingredients and just kinda forgot about it

>>17897264
>posts a stew

>>17897272
why would anyone deviate from a superior product?

>>17897264
>filename
Someone's a bit insecure...

>>17897272
>she
>"Trevor"
>stick up her ass
You've revealed more about yourself than you probably meant to

>>17897276
>>posts a stew
enjoy your bean stew non-Texas retard

>>17897161
chili with no tomatoes? now we're just getting fucking ridiculous. I've never seen any chili recipe that doesn't use some form of tomatoes. do you literally just use water, beef and chili powder?

>>17897318
>do you literally just use water, beef and chili powder?
yes

>>17897318
>literally just use water, beef
>>17897318
>>17897318
don't be ridiculous

>>17893452
dried guajillo peppers, soak them and blend them up and strain into your pot o chili. i also like beer and can of chipotle in adobo as the other anons said

chili on top of beans is nice. chili IN beans, idk

>>17892686
as a topping
>no beans
as a meal
>beans plz

>>17897387
which subreddit did you come from?

>>17893516
I tip my hat to you. Thanks looks tasty.

>>17897236
nobody turned their nose up at anything unless they were aristocrats, working people ate what was available.
There was no such thing as a middle class that shopped at trader joes

>>17897264
so basically a cheap boiled steak covered in hot sauce.

>>17894564
>>17896196
Dark chocolate I assume? Or powdered cocoa?

>>17897838
cocoa powder is used in chili to mitigate the acidity because it is highly alkaline, it's not there for flavor.
people using chocolate are on some other shit

>>17897264
>fart breath
Which end have you been kissing?

>>17892686

Chili is a Mesoamerican stew where the ingredients are tomatoes, chili peppers and BEANS, meat is in fact optional.

But if your "chili" doesn't have beans, it's simply NOT chili.

>>17892753
>>17892878
ive been tweaking a recipe for 20 years & i had never thought of hominy! thx anons

>>17893220
you must be in cincinatti

>>17892686
so tired of this discussion.

fact is the reason why chilli with no beans became a discussion was due to a restaurant in texas (outside dallas i think) in the early 1900's that wanted to promote itself by saying that we are so texas, our chilli is all meat, no beans!

this took off as others picked up on it & started making chilli with no beans.

tl;dr chilli has ALWAYS been with beans until yokels in texas made changed their recipe for promotion.

>>17898089
Interesting.

>>17898032
In the context putting it on a hot dog I don't care whether it has them or not.

>>17898131
>In the context putting it on a hot dog I don't care whether it has them or not.

For a coney dog, there should be NO beans but then that's not really chili, it's coney sauce.

>>17896794
>I always like putting macaroni in my goulash, adds a bit of variety along with the meat. I understand if you don't like macaroni in goulash but I don't get why people who don't like macaroni in goulash always act like there's some law that says "goulash can't have macaroni in it". fucking huns

>>17892686
Chili with no Beans (which i guess isn't chili?) is significantly better than chili with meat or that is just meat. I'm not a vegan or anything but its just better that way.

>>17893220
>cooking the pasta in the same pan
americans are all savages

>>17898352
Get a load of Mr. Rockefeller over here with TWO pans.

>>17896600
>>17897264
>>17897801
>watery chili
YOU'RE MEANT TO REDUCE IT, NOT WATER IT DOWN
wasting every fucking ingredient, I bet you dump entire bottles of spice in there like blacks do

>>17892686
OP has the right amount of water for Chili con Carne, the liquid has the viscosity of sauce, not oil

and yeah I know it's traditionally watery garbage, that's because the traditional method is stretching 4 meals of ingredients into 8 serves
it's poverty cooking, don't do it if you can afford to do better or you'll wind up as a fat fuck who eats two meals of carbs in one sitting to get one meal of real nutrition (ie. mexicans)

>>17897318
You're supposed to soften dried chilis and puree them to make the sauce. But my favorite is using canned chipotle sauce and vegetable broth.

>>17898402
that's before i cooked it down for 3 hours but even there it was so thick the spoon stood up in it
also i make my own chili powder

>>17896138
>>17896004
>>17896744
>>17896686
it's closest to rogan josh, no matter what he's calling it that's not in any way shape or form a mexican chili dish, that's an indian curry using chili to spice

>>17897301
that looks delicious

>>17898977
>mexican chili dish
Chili isn't Mexican. For some reason they even often disavow the dish. The Spanish did try to take credit for it though, being Spanish and all. Original chili is indeed just a chili base with meat in it.

Not him BTW.

>>17899151
>Original chili is indeed just a chili base with meat in it
Original chili is Pozole: chili, hominy and the traditional meat of humans (substitute pork if cannibalism is unavailable to you)
Vegetarian Pozole is still traditional because human meat wasn't always available to poorer Aztecs, but beans in your Pozole are exactly that, a poor man's Pozole

Corn, especially hominy is the most important ingredient for authenticity

>>17896987
>Chile no beans
4.5
>Chile with beans
6
I use bigger chunks or strips when there are no beans. When there are beans the smaller pieces and harsher sear really stand out and burst with flavor in contrast to the mushy bean paste when it enters your mouth.

Chili will save a ruined steak.

>>17892686
Beans 100%

>>17897400
r/4chan duh! i heckin love plebbit! Soijack face.png pepe2371237.webm

>>17892686
Chili is supposed to be chili peppers + meat + fat + other spices. That's how it tastes best. Anybody who enjoys beans in chili has never had good chili. I used to like beans in my chili, but after tasting the all meat stuff I realized that beans were just a filler for poor families who can't afford more meat. I have nothing against beans, but in my chili? That's a no.

>>17899290
AFAIK pozole doesn't necessarily include chilis, at least not in general. Some variations certainly do.

>>17892686
Fuck off with your beans, nigger.

The real question is corn or no corn

>>17901228
Sometimes corn, although after seeing some of the posts ITT I think I'll try hominy next time. IDK how it hasn't occurred to me to try that, I like pozole and I like grits.

>>17892686
Chilli con carné, with beans, and corn, and sour cream, served over rice

The autismo "Chilli" beef stew is of no interest to me.

>>17893452
Coke, coffee, beer, chipotle

>>17900338
super traditional pozole doesnt include the flesh of the chili, but the broth is made from pressing water out of chilis
slightly less traditional pozole you make chili stock by boiling and remove all the flesh and seeds before cooking the hominy and meat in it
modern day lazy pozole yeah you either chuck the whole chili in or use chili powder

>>17901228
corn, especially hominy is more authentic than beans because sacred Maize
beans are just a poor mans filler, corn is the culturally important bit

>>17893452
Cumin and coriander, plus tobasco and actual chillies would help with the heat