/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>umami

>fresh frozen

>>17615857
It means savoury you shit brain

>all natural

>organic

>brunch

>superfood

>>17615857
There is a single identifiable family of molecules that produce umami, so it does have a meaning. Just because they're not common in western food doesn't mean it's not a distinct flavor.

>>17615902
yuh huh

>>17615881
Brjnch is just what women call breakfast when they want to drink.

>mouth feel

>spinach packaging describing itself as 'peppery'

wtf? spinach doesn't taste of anything. where are they even getting 'peppery' from?

>>17615919
it does you tastelet

>>17615919
it absolutely does you tastelet and indeed some varieties have a bit of a "spice" to them hence the peppery bit.

>>17615919
fucking tastelets

>>17615924
>>17615926
if you sprinkle a shitload of pepper over it maybe

>>17615919
They probably put pepper on it retardftpwdx

>>17615856
>palate cleanser

>>17615919

>>17615926
>wypipo be like this tasteless raw leaf too spicy

>>17615919
I've only ever seen this on arugula/rocket, never spinach.

>>17615984
>pours half a cup of hot sauce on some spinach
>MMMM YASSUH DIS HEYUH GOOD EATIN' MM HMMM AW LAWDEE AH GATS BRONCHITIS WHAT DE FUCK

>soul food

>>17615984
Most non-white cultures damage their people's tastebuds. The massive use of spices and "strong" flavors is common place in most culture History, even europeans ones... but it changed.

Back in the XVth century, noble courts in Europe all used massive amounts of spices as it was considered prestigious and food from Eden's Garden by religion. It was also considered as a prized fire element in Galenian concept of dietetics.

But quickly, England and Netherlands started to get a monopoly on the spice trades. Their ennemy, France, quickly got tired to buy spices from them and the French nobles stopped using spices, keeping only five local ones (the strongest being long black pepper) and turning to herbs.

The food tasted bland without the spices and the french nobility was forced to invent new cooking techniques, developping the famous french cuisine we know now. But at first it was hated by all other european countries still using spices, thinking french food was bland as hell. It took a century and Louis XIV to expand french cuisine to the rest of Europe.

>>17616025
sounds like an interesting folk tale but i doubt thats true

>>17615902
>Just because they're not common in western food

4.3/10 almost had me

>>17616128
Litteraly from an food history class I took during college. Of course it's a simplification. If you want sources, I only know french historiography, Florient Quellier would be your go-to.

>>17615902
>Just because they're not common in western
kek

>>17616159
It's all in French so I won't bother researching this

>>17615856
Extra virgin

A pinch
A dash

>season to taste

>>17615856
>terms that mean absolutely nothing at all
Jet fuel can't melt steel beams

Autism: the thread

>Grass fed

>>17616292
this, but unironically

>Avant-garde
>Earthy
>Eclectic

"Mouth feel" is "texture" but pretentious.
Same thing for "umami" and "savory", "aroma", and "smell".

>rustic

>>17615857
That's just moonrunes for "tastes like mushrooms"

>>17615902
Except it is common in western food. Tomatoes, parmesan, anchovies, most chips and snacks, most fast food etc. People are just retarded.

>>17615856
>comfort food
something you like and takes you back to carefree times
>>17615857
>umami
yes, umami, google it
>>17615881
>brunch
first meal of the day during fasting, usually around lunch time
>>17615952
>palate cleanser
milk/mint sauce, but there are others
>>17616278
>season to taste
add enough salt so it tastes good but is not too salty
>>17616317
>umami
>savory
google it
>aroma
>smell
you got mauled by a pitbull and you're missing a nose, or you're after covid?

>>17615856
>Soul Food

>>17616305
Earthy just means "this tastes like dirt"

>sustainable

>vegan

>>17615902
Wrong it’s all in your head weeb

>>17615856
>organic
>natural
>home-style
>free range
>grass-fed

>>17615856
>pre-heated

>>17615984
fuckin kek, this meme hits hard sometimes

>>17615905
Get laid

>>17616640
I'm a woman. And I'm posting on my phone next to my sleeping husband lol. You get laid, instead.

>>17616337
what a fucking faggot

>>17615856
that means that it makes you feel good when you eat it
>>17615857
that means savory
>>17615862
that means it was frozen when it was fresh
>>17615871
>>17615876
that means that it's made of biological material
>>17615881
that means a hybrid of breakfast and lunch
>>17615899
that means it has a lot of nutrition and vitamins for its weight
>>17615913
that means how it feels in your mouth
>>17615952
that means something you eat between bites of another thing so you don't get tired of it
>>17616007
that means it has a lot of seasoning salt
>>17616242
that means it uses 4chan
>>17616266
that means a small amount
>>17616278
that means you add as much spice as you think makes it taste good
>>17616293
that means it ate grass at some point
>>17616305
that means it pushes boundaries
that means it tastes like dirt
that means it has a bunch of different tastes that make you happy
>>17616327
that means it has a cool texture on the outside but the inside sucks
>>17616371
that means they can keep making it easily
>>17616379
that means it has no animal material
>>17616530
that means it was heated prior to use

wow you people are stupid

>>17616774
Neck
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>>17616774
>mass replying
ishygddtt

>>17616774
check out this faggot

>>17616774
all the mad replies to this makes me believe youre right, have a nice day

>>17616774
that means you can't read between the lines

>>17616317
What, "mouthfeel" is far less pretentious sounding than texture

>elevate

>>17615856
You only think "comfort food" doesn't have meaning because you're a fat fuck who gets pleasure from any food placed in front of you.

>Barista

>>17615857
fpbp

>>17615902
The rancid taste of MSG that overpowers everythign else and leaves a think film on the roof of your mouth.

>>17616973
Yeah, it's something that has to be used sparingly, and natural sources are better. Dried:
>kelp
>shiitake
>small fish
>shrimp carapace
>truffles
Boiled makes for wonderful umami base upon which to build. It's best as a low, earthy accent, as hing or garlic is.
>miso paste
>Hoi sin
>oyster sauce
>garum
>truffle salt
All good ways to work in a tiny bit of umami. It works best when kind of cooked in, given time to permeate into fats and proteins so when it cools enough to eat its complementary rather than additive.

>>17616774
>that means it uses 4chan
kek

>>17616774
Unconscionably based

>>17616888
If youre a faggot, maybe

>>17616337
>first meal of the day during fasting, usually around lunch time
That would be breakfast, the meal which BREAKS the FAST, you fucking idiot

>>17617032
texture is fucking french nigga. mouthfeel is germanic words strung together like an animal

>>17617049
You sound like a dicksucker for sure.

>>17617049
this guy definitely sucks dick

>>17615864
>>17616774
>savoury
not a real taste. it's called umami

>>17617049
>texture is fucking french
what do they call it in german then? textur. it's another one of those latin words that almost all of euro calls the same thing

>>17615857
Gookspeak for "earthy"/savory

>>17616702
Haha you sleep with men faggot

>zoomers who werent raised by parents properly (not being picked up enough as babies and not getting enough attention) dont understand the concept of comfort

many such cases!

>>17617194
One man.

>>17616774

>>17616906
"lift"

>>17616792
"mass replying" is when you quote everyone and type 1 useless line.

This is effort (shit)posting

>>17617178
>another one of those latin words that almost all of euro calls the same thing
But the word doesn't come from Latin, it comes from French.
We call it Renaissance, and not Rebirth, and the word is French, even if it comes from the Latin "nasci" (as does "natal")

>>17616774
They hated him because he told them the truth.

>>17617274
they hated him
>>17616888 because he sucked dick

>>17615919
tastelet

>>17615864
in a language you don't speak.

>>17616702
Post tits

>>17618231
>husband
They are not mine to post.

>>17616774
fuck off and die mass reply nigger

>>17616888
What? Literally everything has a texture. Only food has mouthfeel. And mouthfeel just means, well, how the food feels in your mouth, which is what a texture is. How something feels.
So its an unnecessary extra word, applied to food that serves no purpose besides displaying that you really give a shit about food, and use food exclusive terms. Or in simpler terms, are a pretentious faggot or try hard.

>>17616888
What about Mouthful?

>>17615857
It has a meaning; I just don't understand why people use the Japanese word when, as the other replies pointed out, the word "savory" already exists.

If there's words like 'gameplay' and 'mouthfeel' why not 'bookread' and 'musiclisten'?

>>17618341
Umami is more specific - glutamic, inosinate, and guanylate. Savory can just mean "Not sweet".

>>17618398
bro
just say savory

>>17618441
no

>>17615856
comfort food is food that will make you feel like shit and have dialarhoea but it tastes good

>calories

>>17615856
I don't lie the term comfort food because it gives me visions of a fat girl alone on a friday night stuffing her face and crying while watching Bridget Jones diary.

>>17616336
Also meat, in a some languages the word to use interchangeably with umami is meaty (in terms of taste, not texture of course)

>>17616774
What an autistic shitpost

>>17616915
Why eat food that doesn't give you pleasure?

>>17619669
I have a healthy relationship with food so to me it just means simple hearty meals you probably enjoyed during childhood. For me: tomato soup, rosół, mac and cheese, etc.

>>17619876
I have no problem with the concept, but for some reason the word combo puts me off.

>>17619885
OK that's fair, I also have phrases that annoy me for no reasons I can't be assed to identify.

>>17615856
>gluten-free

Energy Drink. Half the time, the term is applied to a beverage which provides 0 joules/calories of energy

>>17619940
>>17619940
My energy drink of choice? Olive oil.

>>17615984
Kek

>>17616774
Holy shit, the reactions to this have convinced me that mass replying is the only real way to interact with /ck/.

Stay mad, autismos.

>>17616774
>>17616848
>>17620355
Obvious samefag is obvious (all me btw).

WHATS THE DEAL WITH AIRLINE FOOD!?

>>17618242
Ywnbaw

>>17615864
so just say "savory"

>>17616774
>that means it uses 4chan

>>17616774
>that means it uses 4chan

>>17617987
No. In Japanese it means "tasty." That could describe pure sugar, which has no umami in the English sense.

Shut up stupid nigger faggot kike bitch. Say sorry and maybe I won't kill you and shove a cinder block up ur butt. *kills ur whole family, turns them inside out, and lines the walls of ur house with their bodies* Bet ur rly scared now huh, lil faggot bitch boy? Stupid gay nigger jew faggot bitch homo. Fuck u. /thread

Meh. Comfort food is a good umbrella name for all non-bullshit food.

>>17615864
what the hell does savory mean

>healthy food
No way to define it
>vegan
All food produced involves people who use animal slavery as intrinsic part of their daily operation, the food itself not being animal parts doesn't mean consuming it doesn't harm animals.
>organic
It's same food as non-organic.
>savory
It's some horrible manglegation of salty and """tasty""" that has no real use in english language. "this food is savory" - "oh why do you say that?" - "mmm, salt"
>rustic
Of food pertaining to an image someone has of food someone might've eaten in the countryside at some point. What the fuck does it mean. It's like nice way of saying your presentation look really simple and not thought out.

>>17620969
>No way to define it
obviously there is or there would be no difference between food and poison. the problem is identifying foods that also function as very slow poisons.
> the food itself not being animal parts doesn't mean consuming it doesn't harm animals.
moving the goalposts
>It's same food as non-organic.
it's produced in a different way, so no
> "this food is savory" - "oh why do you say that?" - "mmm, salt"
salted caramel still isn't "savory", idiot.


I would say that this is a thread of autists complaining about concepts that have useful, albeit imprecise, definitions...but vegan and organic do have precise legal definitions. So it's just I DON'T LIKE IT SO IT'S NOT REAL

>>17616774
The very definition of a based retard. Not even mad about the mass reply

>>17615857
i fucked u mami

>>17615902
Butter and meat produce the umami flavour? It's present and noticable, but it's not like 20000mg of msg dumped onto chicken.

>>17618320
>only food has mouthfeel
Everything you put in your mouth has mouthfeel. It's just texture for your mouth. Like that dick you keep sucking.

>>17620955
Do this, make something simple like a fried beef patty. Add salt to one, add salt and msg to the other one. You'll feel that the MSG one has almost a lingering taste and feels like everything has a more rounded taste profile that feels like it coats your tongue, that's basically the glutamate receptors in your tongue kicking off and what the feeling of savoury is.

>>17620969
retard

>>17621213
Nice.

>>17616774
devilish

>>17615864
okay how about this one:
>savory

>>17616774
The only based mass replier to ever post on this site.

>>17616317
it's not pretentious, it's just plain retarded

>>17623072
don't samefag dipshit.

>>17615856
>fresh eggs
how can they be fresh if you can't even smell them?

>>17616337
that last guy you replied to is saying the first word in each set is a pretentious synonym

>>17616774
good post. these people are so dumb.

>>17616774
based

>soul food

>>17616025
Louis XIV, my favorite historic asshole. Love how when he moved the nobles to Versailles, he told them, This isn't the Louvre, no more pissing behind the doors. You also had to salute his meal if happened to be wheeled by you in the palace. Man never ate a hot meal in his life.

What is it about George Carlin that attracts the most obnoxious NPC midwits the world has ever known? He's like the Family Guy of standup comics.

>>17616774
holy based

>>17625982
That is a bewilderingly inapt simile.

>>17621080
No; you're mad because he called out your retarded posts

>>17619909
Self explanatory dipshit

>>17619658
So do you just not eat? Are you a holocaust survivor or something?

>>17621041
>I need legal definitions to decide what's right and wrong for me

>>17625982
Same dude I fucking hate his comedy and never understood why people thought he was so good. I get for the time that thing hadn't been done before, but even so he just sounds like the guy at work you don't banter with about politics or class or whatever because he's bound to say some "hard truth" or whatever as if it isn't common knowledge.