/ck/ - Food & Cooking

Plates and drinking glasses are the easiest things to wash. Should just call it a rinsing machine.

I put everything in the dishwasher that can be cleaned in it. Washing dishes like a 19th century housewife is retarded.

>>17454928
luddite retard

>>17454888
Shut the fuck up about your dishwasher

>>17454888
>he doesnt shower with his dishes
cringe

>>17454888
What? What game? Are you acting like dishwashers are a new invention? Shut up man.

>>17454888
I really don't need this dishwasher bullshit right now

>>17454888
Save your money and buy a nice big sink.

where does all the excess food and grime and stuff go?

>>17454994
Compost. You're not stuffing food scraps down the drain like a rentoid animal, are you?

>>17454888
Here's another type to consider

>>17455009
That sink is far too small.

I just wash mine in the sink and use the dishwasher as a drying rack. I actually hate it and wish I had the extra cabinet space instead.

>falling for dishwasher FUD

No thank you. I learned to avoid this blatant waste of space, electricity, water, time.

>oy you need to use our special (((soap))), you can't just use regular soap
>don't worry only half of the ingredients cause cancer
>did you not have the dishwasher on the right setting? Whoops guess everything will have a greasy film now
>better pre-wash those dishes before putting them into the wash, the poor thing can't handle any serious job :)))

>>17454994
the scraps go in the garbage or whatever. but the bits that remain + grime and stuff gets pulverized by the machine and the detergent and goes down the drain.

Commercial dishwashers essentially just rinse them with very hot water so the prewashed dishes dry quickly.

>>17455009
Makes too much noise

>>17455039
Just use regular soap. Who's stopping you?
You also don't need to pre-wash if you manage to use the thing right.

>>17455063
Commercial dishwashers are more about disinfection than cleaning. That's what the showerhead is for

>>17455123
>You also don't need to pre-wash
What dishwasher can clean a casserole dish with burned on gunk?

>>17455063
>>17455127
yea but they take seconds compared to a hour like a home dishwasher

>>17455276
any standard dishwasher should be able to do that.

>>17455009
Too expensive

>>17455123
Do not use regular soap anon if you don't want to have a bubble party in your house.

My old dishwasher died after mostly not using over 4 years it due to working in a remote location and only running it like twice a year. So I bought a new one for about $1,000 and my man it's amazing.

My new one is quieter than my fridge and I can put anything in it and it comes out completely clean. Don't even need to rinse.

>>17454970
Using a dishwasher would save more money

>>17454888
I live alone and always clean as I go. Hardly much of a mess, and I always fill sink with soapy hot water for soaking as I do them. I cook from a huge cost iron set anyway, can't use a machine for those. I gutted my dishwasher and it's extra pantry space.

My mother insisted we installed a dish washer in the early 90's. It was a huge cause of arguments because my father was basically like ... anybody who is too bone idle to do a few dishes while I work 60 hours a week to keep a roof over their heads is a real piece of shit while while death staring her. She was basically like ... anybody who thinks I have to time to act like his perfect god damn mother and wife while raising two children is a piece of shit while death staring him. They broke up shortly afterwards and to be fair, my mother was a lazy piece of shit unable to handle raising children and keeping house without endless booze, holidays, spending sprees and naps because she didn't want either of us so my father had the job and the kids. We never used that fucking dish washer either, we were forced to wash and dry dishes from that point on.

>>17455015
anon why are you posting underage boys?

>>17455461
Anyway we washed up in the hardest water in the country. Everything used to feel crunchy and sharp with mineral deposits. All the glasses were always milky/cloudy. It sucked. I was team no dish washer for the next 30 years. I believed the same thing, anybody who is too lazy to wash a few dishes needs a kick up the ass and a better work ethic not a dish washer.

Reasons why I now love the dish washer ...

- it cleans way fucking better than hand
- it is a place to store dirty dishes instead of the counter
- the counter is free for projects/my kids to use instead of a collection of sharp and pointy shit
- no more disputes about who is doing the dishes, who is doing them badly etc
- the glass and steel comes out perfect

>>17454888
>using a cheap dishwasher with a disgusting utensils basket

Ngmi.

>>17454888
I will never go back, no matter what happens to the fucking climate and global warming. I will always have a dishwasher.

>>17454970
My dishwasher uses less water than I'd use washing by hand

>>17455276
Mine

>>17454888
>take dishes
>scrape dishes
>place dishes in the machine in the order they go
>close the machine
>wait two hours
>open the machine up
>take dishes out
>put dishes away
>clean the machine

OR

>get everything done in 5-10 minutes.

thirdies here, we just use 3 buckets of water,
soapy water, water, water
just dip your plate or anything in order, and its done.

>>17455956
You make using a dishwasher sound so complicated!

>clean machine
Wat. I actually look after mine, so run a maintenance cycle maybe once a year.

>>17454935
Sounds like incompetence

>>17455956
>scrape dishes after each meal
>put them in the machine
>once machine is full, run a cycle
>do whatever the fuck you want while machine is running
>once machine is done, put dishes away
Dishwashers really are convenient for the non-retards out there.

i refuse to live anywhere that doesn't have a dishwasher

Do you americans really have to connect the dishwasher to the hot water pipe because your dishwashers cant heat water? So if you forget to run the hot water for a while then your machine will “rinse” with cold water? Do you guys at least have a built in water softener?

>>17454888
Are there people in first world countries without dishwashers lmfao?

>>17456187
Uhh, no.

>>17455009
Haha it’s funny because women are inferior

>>17455039
>waste of water
Lol. Retard. Dishwashers use much less water than washing everything by hand. You serious? It’s obvious you’ve never paid bills or done any DIY plumbing

Dishwashers are really inefficient.

They take much longer and cost a lot more than washing by hand.

There's no relation between it and the washing machine for clothes.

You spend more time and money by using it.

>>17456212
>the result of European countries using propaganda on its cucked citizens for 30 years

>>17454888
>>changes the game
>Loses the game

>>17455461
>while I work 60 hours a week
What third world shithole was your dad in to have to do that?

>>17455123
lol

>>17456332
didn't think anyone was this stupid until it happened in the kitchen of my office after lunch one day

>>17456346
and it takes forever to get all the foam out
my last dishwasher didn't have many options and it kept trying to recirculate the water.

>>17456332
someone once put dish soap in the dishwasher of our cafeteria, it was hilarious

>>17456332
>>17456346
>>17456405
What's the difference between soap and soap?

>t. retard

>>17456195
Actually yes surprisingly

>>17455063
pretty sure they also use a chemical that makes them dry faster

>>17456212
>they take more time
Yes, and? Do you sit in front of the dishwasher until it finishes doing its thing or what?

>>17454888
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0304389422001194
>We detected > 3500 dishwasher related compounds, with 430 showing migration even after subsequent flushing of the bottles
hope you don't put plastic in the dishwasher

>>17456610
>Do you sit in front of the dishwasher until it finishes doing its thing or what?
You're not supposed to?

>>17456454
dish soap like this bad for dishwasher
makes many bubbles because that's what consumers demand
too many bubbles bad for dish washer machine, can't clear them

>>17456212
>they take much longer and cost a lot more
they take longer but they are extremely water efficient.
>you spend more time and money by using it
>spend 10min loading dishwasher
>spend 10min unloading dishwasher
>all time between this is spent unattended
>save money on water which isn't remotely outpaced by its electricity use
seriously, what is it about dishwashers that bring out all the fucking retards?

>>17456208
Nobody is joking anon, women being inferior is not a joke, it's a fact

>>17456820
>>spend 10min loading dishwasher
>>spend 10min unloading dishwasher

It takes me ~5 minutes to do the dishes by hand, in the sink. And I seriously doubt the dishwasher uses less water than I do.

Maybe if I was accumulating dirty dishes for a month it would make sense.

>>17456454
except you dont use soap in a dishwasher, you use detergent

>>17456899
are you the only person in your household? I'm dealing with the throughput of a family of five with a lot of home cooking involved, I would neck myself if I was doing all of those dishes by hand.
the dishwasher runs basically every other day in this household.

I still clean dishes by hand because I'm autistic and it's fun and relaxing

>>17454888

dishwashers, microwaves, and laundry machines ushered in the downfall of the nuclear family and the west as a whole. They should be banned. Those inventions gave women too much free time. When they should have been cleaning, they were getting birth control. When they should have been cooking, they were cheating on their faithful husbands and destroying their families. Those machines simply put, are the devil

>>17457471
Oh boy, looks like Anon forgot to take his meds again

Modern dishwashers, especially high end ones, like my Miele, are more efficient than washing by hand. They also do a better job at cleaning. Sure, if I have a big pot or something I'm going to wash that by hand, but it saves a lot of time after a hard day at work to just pop most items in the dishwasher.

Get a Bosch 500. All the issues you people complain about are solved by spending an extra $300 on a good appliance. I get it, i used to be poor and the mindset is hard to break but if you can afford it, do it.

>>17454888
Lmao the same people here talking shit about dishwashers are the same people who brag about making their own bread, pasta, and fermented hot sauces. People here seem to love bragging about doing things the hard way

>>17454888
>changes dirty dishes to be slightly cleaner while taking up cupbaord space

Everyone I've met that complains about dishwashers is either poor (European) or uses those detergent packs.

>>17457822
Homemade bread mogs storebought though.

>>17457857
It goes moldy in two days and is 90% air

>>17457863
icecream is a million percent air, whats your point?

I pretty much hand wash everything. I have a spray bottle with soap and water and just hit all my dishes with that then a sponge and hand dry it. I use cold water and don't fill the sink or anything like that.

I just remember how my parents would wash dishes in the sink then put them in the dishwasher, or put large items like casserole dishes or storage containers or mixing bowls in the dishwasher so they had to run it every few days, or using a plate just for a piece of bread then putting it in the dishwasher with a crumb on it. What a waste.

>>17457854
or they have some cheap mexican shit with only one spray arm at the bottom instesd of having an arm for both racks

>>17456820
>>17456899
it takes 5 mins to load and unload retard
>>17456212
wrong

>>17456880
based

>>17457080
>if I was doing all of those dishes by hand.
tell your kids to wash the dishes

>>17457941
that sounds disgusting. you gross bitch

dishers get the water way hotter than our hands can handle, and use much much less water since they recycle it via filtering and built in food disposal systems.

>>17457900
only the shitty icecream like chapmans

>>17454888
>Doesn't own nonstick reverb plateware

What a pleb

>>17454944
actually, he's anti-luddite, since he's saying he does use the dishwasher
have a nice day

>>17457857
Lmao thanks for the laugh

>>17456187
No retard, the idea behind the design is that if you fill the dishwasher with hot water in the first place it's more energy efficient than heating cold water in the machine at the start of the cycle because the resistive heating element in the dishwasher is about the least energy efficient way of heating water in existence short of screaming and farting at the dishwasher until the water heats up. The machine still has a heating element that's used to heat the water throughout the wash cycle as needed and for heated drying, but if you can start the cycle with already hot water it reduces the amount you need to rely on the shitty heating element. Of course there flaw in this design is that most houses don't have recirculating pumps to ensure that the water that comes out of the hot line at the point of use is always hot immediately so if you don't run the hot water at the sink first you still dump cold water into the machine during the initial fill defeating the purpose of designing it that way, but that just means it's exactly the same as running a machine tapped into the cold water line anyway.

Anyway why do you care? It's a bad look to seethe about the fact that the average American household has a dishwasher while houses in your shithole country have no room for them because your retrofitted mini clothes washing machine takes up the only available 3sqft in the kitchen where the family toilet used to be before you moved it into the old combination coat closet/guest room under the stairs.

>>17454888
>still have to wash food off plates
>leaves soap residue on plates

>>17457822
>doing things the hard way
Let's see, I can keep ingredients and make bread whenever I want or have to go back to the store every week.
If you think making bread is hard you might have a disability.

>>17458109
>Dishwashers are designed to work without rinsing, you're using your detergent dispenser wrong
>You don't put soap in a dishwasher retard, and if you're dishes have residue either your machine is shit, you're loading it like a retard so things don't get rinsed properly, or you don't understand how the use rinse aid

>>17456899
I load the dishwasher as I cook and eat then run it after
Takes no time

>>17458109
Doing it wrong

yeah dishwashers really bring out the retards or more charitably the people who aren't fortunate enough to use one made in the last ten years

>>17455855
Water costs less than soap and electricity.

>>17454935
you mean 20th century

>>17458976
ive heard the newer ones are over engineered and worse than the older ones and it makes sense when you think about it. its a pretty straight forward machine. just need to spray water at the dishes. they fuck it up with retarded sensors and shit which may be slightly more efficient and save money on energy but they probably do a worse job than the OG machines at washing.

>>17454935
>>17454888

i like washing my dishes at the end of each day. it's calming, meditative and makes me appreciate that i have dishes and hot running water.

dishes and bowls are okay to wash, even satisfying. but its stuff like forks and things with weird grooves and edges/corners that make washing dishes miserable.

>>17459397
i like waking up in the morning to a dishwasher full of crisp clean dishes that are literally cleaner than you could make them since the dishwasher has a constant stream of scorching hot water and heated dry.

>>17459451
clean is clean m8, dunno why you're making this a contest. maybe you should wash your dishes with your hands and calm down.

>>17459152
i spend $6 on detergent every two-three months and it costs like a dime to run the disher. cope.
being poor isn't cool, nobody cares.

>>17457080
>I'm dealing with the throughput of a family of five
Then put your future degenerate freeloaders to work.

>>17459473
This.
The kids should be doing the dishes between talking about boring shit and their homework.

>>17459473
>>17459487
they empty the dishwasher. we all fill it piecemeal with our own dishes. it's a fine arrangement.

>>17459457
try saying that after i break all my dishes over your head and smash your skull with the dishwasher door you fucking frog!!!!! I AM CALM

>>17459397
Can I borrow you to my home?

>>17459152
Are you implying that hand washing dishes doesn't use soap? And you know that the hot water you're likely using had to be heated, either with electricity or some kind of fuel that also costs money?

Regardless, dishwashers are more efficient than you are, retard. They use less water, less detergent, and less energy. They're engineered specifically to wash dishes efficiently while you're engineered to suck cocks.

>>17459391
Have you also heard that you're a retard who believes anything he's "heard" with no reputable source?

>and it makes sense when you think about it. its a pretty straight forward machine. just need to spray water at the dishes. they fuck it up with retarded sensors and shit which may be slightly more efficient and save money on energy but they probably do a worse job than the OG machines at washing.
>Source: my ass

Improvements to dishwashers in recent years have been focused primarily on designing the mechanisms inside in such a way that they effectively clean dishes with as little water and energy as possible which really just comes down to shit like placement of the sprayers, pump design, how the racks hold the dishes, etc. I don't know what sensors you think they're cramming into them that somehow make them worse at cleaning dishes, the only sensors you'll find in pretty much any dishwasher are a float switch to detect how much water is in the machine and a temp sensor to control when to turn on the heating element.

>>17459171
When do you think dishwashers were invented?
Don't give me a you, you're wrong anyway.

>>17458109
Works on my machine.

>>17459514
breaking ur dishes wont get them clean anon u have to to wash em with ur hands

>>17459391
>>17459662
My bosch I bought a few years ago has never failed me. I know mines supposed to have a sensor in it that detects food debris and adjusts the washing cycle in some way. I just chuck it on the auto setting and let it run when I go to work or bed.

>>17454888
>have to handwash the dishes before using it
Worthless ‘gadget’

>>17455008
>his sink doesn’t have a garbage disposal
Poorfag

>>17455015
Thanks for reminding me to do my weightlifting, anon
Baste post

>>17455350
>>17455858
Post video.

>>17457471

>>17457960
>dish washers use dirty water to wash dishes
Might as well be washing them in pond water

>>17459803
please stop hurting my feelings

this autismograph explains it all here:
https://youtu.be/_rBO8neWw04

>>17455063
Opps. Didn't change the water, glasses hav spots welded to them. Fucking border hoppers.

>>17459636
Post the model of your dishwasher and water consumption per normal load.

>>17454888
my dishwash sucks dick. doesnt clean half the shit and leave soap stains on everything.

I had a dishwasher my whole life until the last year. Now I realize they're pointless unless you're an absolute germaphobe that needs their plates and glasses steamed.

>>17457080
>family of five
>lots of home cooking involved
>every other day

what the fuck are you using paper plates and plastic forks?

>>17460020
Poorfag cope, enjoy your $1800 studio retard.

>>17460065
but but no one NEEDS more than 400 sqft and 1 bedroom with no shower

im cool because i live somewhere where cool people live!!!

https://youtu.be/MBd-JnFoWwo

>>17454944
There is no point to a dishwasher. They are also emasculating .

>>17456454
Different soaps are different. GENERALLY, you want to avoid using the liquid/gel style soaps in dishwashers, as they will leave soap buildup/scum in the drainage system of your machine much more quickly than dry/powder based soaps, as long as your kitchen gets really hot water. If the water js cold-hot you're fucked regardless.

>Dish sanitizers
Please. They don't wash dishes, you are supposed to do that in the sink. They will however sanitize them for you.

https://youtu.be/lnKAVFBIH1c

>>17459676
it's not when dishwashers were invented it's what time period a housewife that washed her own dishes lived. the idea of a woman with children being a housewife that washed her own dishes really didn't come around until the 20th century. any woman well off enough to be considered a "housewife" in the 19th century (and before) would have staff to wash the dishes... a normal chick with kids that had to wash her dishes, would be poor and working aka not a housewife.

>>17456313
Propably America

>>17454888
>>17454888
All my nigga spit thangs and ride for corelle
We’ll clap any set that doesn’t throw signs and rep for corelle

>>17459926
Consume my load fag

>>17460260
>Dish "washer"
>Doesn't "wash" dishes