/ck/ - Food & Cooking

Does anyone else think the hario servers pour like shit? I have to tilt the thing damn near upside down to pour my coffee out

Chemex bros.. can I use the Chemex filters inside a drip coffee machine and still get good coffee? I love the coffee my Chemex makes but I'm lazy as shit in the morning and just want to throw my filter into a Mr. Coffee (or even something of higher quality)

Got the flair heatsoaking now. I've been thinking about this washed small farm esperanza all morning.

>>17423751
Why would you use the worst filters in an application that is open to other filters?

>>17423751
Ratio 8 takes chemex filters. The more expensive one lets you use a v60 under it too. You'll have to pay the dipshit tax though. Probably right up your alley.
https://ratiocoffee.com/products/eight

>>17423786
>https://ratiocoffee.com/products/eight

$565 USD? what in the fuck?

>>17423771
the Chemex filters are what make the coffee I like, what are you talking about

>>17423798
>(or even something of higher quality)
Welcome to the real world kiddo. Those are made in oregon. You can get worse chinkshit for ~half the price.
https://www.crateandbarrel.com/chemex-ottomatic-coffee-maker/s557489

>>17423820

Todays brew. How was it?

puck

>>17424023

>>17424023
Pressurized baskets need not apply

>>17423761

>>17424091
What if it was pressurized... manually

Espresso pucks mean nothing in terms of shot diagnosis so long as you don't have chanelling

>>17424125
Asking for pucks in general is kind of fuckin weird desu

>>17424125
>so long as you don't have chanelling
Thats the point. People who are pulling shots like this shouldn't be giving advice.

>>17424220
Soupy pucks can create great espresso, just means you're under dose. A shitty looking puck =/= shitty espresso

>>17424325
Sure can, but you're not going to get the same soupy shitty puck to channel the exact same way every time. Higher end espresso machines ship with spouted portafilters specifically to mask bad puck prep and channeling/sprays, but you should still try to be as consistent as possible.
https://towardsdatascience.com/espresso-puck-analysis-9c35b102c4f8

>>17423963
>Too much chaff on top
>CLEARLY overswirled
3/10
Would instantly increase to 9/10 with use of the Melodrip™

>>17424615
I think you and ray would get along fantastically.
https://youtu.be/wwf7ibGNXoQ

>>17424615
I don't swirl even one time

>>17424702
Everyone knows that the only way to get a flat V60 bed is by either using a Melodrip or randomly swirling for the last 20 seconds to compensate for 3 minutes of uneven flow through a bed of moving particles

>>17424630
THIS FAGGOT is the melodrip guy you suck off? LOL

>>17424630
this guy is insufferable holy fuck

>>17424712
>He's always been a bozo, but the tool is cool.
I've said time and time again I'll leave the experimenting to him and just distill off the useful shit. Did you have trouble learning in school or anything?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhvZn-tKyj4

>>17424744

Hi thread.
Does anyone else ITT brew the Cafe du Monde with chicory? Has it been tasting funny to you lately? I usually brew Community with chicory, but it's grown difficult to find locally and Amazon price gouges it to fuck and back so I've been using other supermarket brands lately.
Of the last three tins of coffee I've gotten, the first and third were CdM and the second was Melita European roast.
The Melita tasted as good as it always has but both cans of CdM tasted far more astringent or acidic or a word like that than I remember it tasting. The brew was also considerably thinner, if that's the right word here, than I'm used to. Has CmD gone to shit or am I fucking it up somehow?

>>17424953
I hear it's really good as cold brew

>>17424961
Is it? I've disliked literally every cold brew I've ever tried.

>>17423571
It's not.

>>17424746
Do you think he realizes how forced and unnatural his gesticulation looks?

>>17425114
Probably why he only has two uploads. Looks like most of his shit on instagram is behind the camera work now.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CQQ-3bDhd0T/

Have any of you visited a coffee-producing country? What would be the safest one to visit?

Coffee is for old people.

They need it to go to the bathroom I'm pretty sure.

>>17425347
I think you're underestimating us autist zoomers

>>17425347
>>17425356
just like with sissy hypno, theres a gross misconception coffee is only for boomers. it truly is not.

>>17425618
I only think of mind broken teenagers and retarded trannies in their late 20s when I think of sissy hypno.

>>17425309
If you want absolute safest, probably Hawaii.

>>17425810
Ok maybe one step up from Hawaii lol

>>17425819
>>17425618
I've been fine in Indonesia. But then, I speak Indonesian, so YMMV.

>>17425819
Bali.

>>17425845
>>17425846
True but a bit far. I've been thinking about Costa Rica, have you guys ever been?

>>17425858
No but an old friend used to go to Nicaragua a lot which is close. Just read up on it, don't act like a tourist, and learn really basic Spanish/have a good offline translator app on your phone.

>>17425872
I'm narrowing it down to Nicaragua, Costa Rica, Panama and El Salvador. I just can't tell what would be the safest and most interesting besides the coffee part.

>>17423751
How can you be that lazy? It takes 4 minutes.

>>17425887
You need to find people who've gone then. Maybe /travel/ can help. My gut says is don't go in like an unknowing tourist, or anyone will see you as prey.

>>17425905
yeah I don't want to get raped by coffee niggers. if you see my thread there pls bump it

New thread and I still have no idea what the pourover dramatists are talking about. Just pour water over the coffee how hard can it be bros...

why is there porn in the op

>>17425978
when you don't use a plastic tranny tube there are a lot of variables to consider when brewing good coffee

I just made the worst pourover of my life

>>17425989
post bed

>>17425984
>assuming I want good coffee
that's where you went wrong anon

>>17425998
my bad, carry on aeropress chad

>>17425978
Some redditor faggot keeps spamming advertisements for his meme device and demanding that everyone post pictures of their V60 beds. Then he analyzes the beds and makes wild assertions about their swirling habits and how the cup tasted just from looking at the bed, and then he tries to shill his meme device to them as a cure for their "bad" brews.

>>17426004
I'm not the swirltard you bozo. I've never once claimed md to be the cure for your shitty coffee. Which you yet again refuse to post. Only time I've chimed in on that anons brews was here.
>>17419992

since the weaponized autism is strong today, post your favorite v60 recipe

>>17426025
>Which you yet again refuse to post.
The post you replied to there was mine you dumb faggot

>>17426026
ayo fuck a nigga named blood diamond

>>17426034
issa mindset b

Have any of you used the Gem brewer? Or is it just a meme

would this general improve if only moka pot and espresso machines talk is allowed? yes it would.

>>17426033
So we're both getting riled up by the bozo who posted a fake picture of the flat max bed. The last person I actually told to buy the md was the mignonfiltro bro in like december. I haven't once commented on your swirling.

Just got my coffee from that local orlando roaster. This is supposed to be medium roast. Is this typical? How do they measure the roast level? Do the light and the dark beans average out and become medium?

>>17426149

>>17426149
LOL.

>>17426215
>>17426272
Can you please answer my questions?

Anyone have the Cafede Kona scale? Been waiting for a better alternative to the Timemore black mirror and I think this is it

https://youtu.be/KzHRMgkgVsU

>>17426149
That's for flavor gradient. In a pinch if you can't find a medium you can mix a french roast with a light roast.

Where my hoffmeme bros at?

>>17426352
oh okay, so it sounds like they're a legit roaster right? I have 3 more pounds of this on the way

>>17424630
I hate condenser mics for normal speaking. That shit is only acceptable for twitch girls.

>>17426356
https://library.sweetmarias.com/blending/

AEROPRESS GANG

>I have 3 more pounds of this on the way
Yeah this has to be a fucking troll post nobody is actually this stupid

>>17426460
There was a Valentines day sale why do you have to be so fuckin rude to me bro

>>17426463
Everyone made fun of you for how shit that website looked in the last thread and then you post that picture that looks like dogshit and claim to have ordered 3 pounds. What is wrong with you?

>>17426419
Too poor to afford a coffee machine but I recently got one of these; it works great and I have no regrets

>>17426471
You know what it tastes great so you can go fuck yourself !

What coffee scales do you guys use?

>>17426569
A set of Brewista scales for pretty much everything - espresso, filter, aeropress,

>>17426569
Lunar.

>>17426473
plus, free hrt
love me aeropress, simple as

>>17426569
>coffee scale
I just use my kitchen scale
you DO have a kitchen scale, right /ctg/?

>>17426569
>scale
6 heaping tablespoons of Cafe du Monde
Scales are for autists

>>17426713
I've been using a kitchen since I destroyed my Hario scale, I really miss a timer and would like something faster than my kitchen scale

>>17426738
kek actually being a volume faggot

>>17423820
what a god.

>>17425356
can confirm, i only drink coffee so i know if im improving my brew method. i care about brewing more than i care about coffee, its just a byproduct of my real hobby.

>>17426356
>I have 3 more pounds of this on the way
nigga what the fuck

>>17423645
I like the way coffee makes my pee smell.

>>17427226
this but unironically

>>17426353
im just waiting for the next video.
the chimney in my moka pot has roughly a 2cm long crack, should i throw it out and buy a new one?

its an avanti, my sister bought it a few months ago when she stayed here.
is there a better 9 cup moka pot that i should buy?

>>17427015
>I destroyed my Hario scale
how?

>>17427300
I knocked over a shot of espresso into it and it never turned on again.

>>17427286
the problem is that i only have myself to compare to, like is my coffee bad or do only i with my autistic pallet think its bad.

my mum and sister think im retarded, they say its so easy just cold water in from the tap, put a random amount of coffee in and then put it on the flames. but i have tried their coffee and it fucking sucks. they buy shit and they brew shit.

making the drink known as coffee is easy as piss, and most people are content with drinking that piss and think well thats what coffee is i guess, and then look at you weird if you actually try and make real coffee.

>>17423645
I just started drinking Coffee again, I like Nitro Cold Brew Black. Are those at home Nitro Kegs worth it ?

>>17426149
>>17426308
Your "medium" roast is a just blend of light and dark. This does not replicate a medium roast, because light and dark roasts require different extraction temps, so you're either going to over-extract the dark beans or under-extract the light ones. Also, if you separately brew a light roast and a dark roast and combine them, the result doesn't really taste like a medium roast, it's a lot more muddied.

>>17427338
>This does not replicate a medium roast
You're right, it's way better than normal medium roasts. Best of both worlds. You guys are just racists.

Should I get a cezve?

>>17423645
Nice

>>17427366
yes, i have been using one to make hot chocolate for 10 years now, it will make it better than pretty much anywhere and is just shy of just drinking melted chocolate. i make my hot chocolate in pretty much the exact same way as you make coffee with one, but obviously i use full cream milk instead of water because if you use any water when making hot chocolate you are retarded and should be committed to a psych ward.

never used it for coffee, but i mean the turks have been using them for hundreds of years so its probably pretty good.

>>17426569
Hario

>>17427687
im sorry

>>17426569
I use the little plastic spoon that came with my V60 and eyeball the water
I actually enjoy having every coffee cup taste a little different

>>17427712
>the little plastic spoon that came with my V60
I love my little v60 scoop, I didn't know it came with it so it was a welcome surprise. that said you're a fucking ape for yoloing your dose and water lol

i recently bought a 9 cup stove top perculator from a charity store (turned out to be 1970s corning ware, had no idea when i bought it) for 5 dollars. coffee tastes acceptable, i bought it because i like drinking cold coffee in summer on the way to work. my question is how is this older style of perculator different to pour over?water condenses up through a tube and drips down through the coffee several time to desired strength. as long you get a good rythm with the boil and don't over do it i find it works quite well. but this method seems very unpopular these days?

>>17427740
>perculator
literal trash.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9avjD9ugXc

Just made myself a V60. What did I think of it?

>>17427740
when you do a pour over you don't burn your coffee and run it over the grounds over and over to produce the black diarrhea some think resembles coffee

>>17426473
Nice choice, fuck a drip machine.
Disregard haters

>>17427782
Actual I'm floored so I'll spoil it. This cup has no business being this good. I did Tetsu's lazy one pour 25g to 300g, pretty fine grind, pouring all the water in 15s, 1m30 draw down. It's very sweet with no hints of acidity or bitterness. It doesn't have a ton of body but it's really quite good, I legitimately expected garbage coffee. Would try again and tweak, maybe use slightly cooler water (used 96)

>>17423645
I've got one of those fully automatic coffeemakers that grind the beans and everything, but I drink so much coffee that cleaning it everytime was too much of a hassle. So, I bought a cheap old fashioned coffeemaker (not one in pic, but similar). Now I wonder: is there really a difference between pouring over the water yourself, vs letting some machine do it for you?

I put grinds and water in my Moka pot and then I drink the liquid that appears after it gets hot

>>17427868
how does it taste.

>>17427875
The satisfying bitterness of spiteful revenge

I bought these expecting they would be better than the plastic wrapped hario ones but they're barely better. Japanese boxed hario still is the best filter. I should really just get a cloth filter and be done with it.

Maybe we should "filter" your posts ey filterboys

I’m a bored hacker. If you want the password to someone’s Snapchat account, like you think your partner is cheating on you, or curious about something else, I don’t mind trying it out

Ask me on Snapchat @HugoSam2

>>17427900
do you just have a database of leaks? how does this work

>>17427882
how are the different filters better or worse?
I've tried plastic wrapped and boxed hario filters, the material is certainly different but I don't notice any difference in the end product

>>17427903
>calls himself hacker
>iphone filename
>kali picture
he's just larping. at best, he's doing some shitty dictionary attack.

>>17427900
>>>/his/12866463
>>>/x/31036650
>>>/v/588723530
>>>/s/21106792

>>17427727
is that the ceramic v60? fucking nice

>>17427921
Flow rate/drawdown. I can grind much finer and still brew hot and quick with the boxed filters.

>>17427900
Sam, what are you drinking? Are you team melodrip or aeropress?

>>17427825
>doubting tetsu senpai
its ok anon he forgives you and he loves you

>>17427324
>no true scotsman
Naw fuck off mate. It's a well established meme that each 4chan board sucks at their own subject matter. Your coffee probably tastes like ass.

>>17427882
I tried the lights too without reading. Those are their absolute slowest filters. Did not work with my kinu, even after sifting off half the fines.
>>17427921
https://dailycoffeenews.com/2020/06/23/japans-cafec-launches-roast-specific-paper-filters/
This article explains it. Different textures, densities, and thickness. Lights are the slowest, mediums are the quickest. I like mediums, but it could be due to the amount of fines the kinus espresso burrs produce.

>>17428246
Damn I thought because it was the thinnest it was the fastest, but it's the densest.

>>17428302
Yeah same. I even read the website and still ordered the lights first because I'm a jackass. Probably better suited for ultra low fine flat burrs than aggressive espresso conicals. If you want the original jap hario, those are allegedly cafec whites. Origami cafecs MAY be whites (as they're clearly different to lights and mediums) but I'm too lazy to send off an email and find out. I like the origamis about the same as the mediums. Slightly different flow but I haven't autistically tracked them.

I have a Hario mini grinder, a cheap french press, a Fellow Stagg kettle and Iordered some specialty coffee yesterday, is that an ok setup to start getting into good coffee?
I have been watching James Hoffman on YouTube today and some of the prices for grinders and coffee makers just sound insane to me.
Will I be able to make coffee that beats just putting supermarket pre-ground coffe into a coffee maker, or do I definitely need to upgrade something? If so, which part would be most important?

>>17428463
>buys cheap hario grinder
>gets a Stagg kettle
>isn't even using a pour-over

>>17428463
yeah pretty much. you dont even need a fancy kettle for french press

>>17428546
You are right, the kettle is a bit overkill, I originally bought it more for tea brewing because I like the pour for my small gaiwan, the temperature control is pretty good and it has no plastic.
I was thinking about getting a V60 in the future, not to replace the french press but just as an additional method.
>>17428549
Thanks. I hope my coffee arrives tomorrow and I will post the results.

i'm sure your kettle is cool, but is it pouring Smeg cool?

>>17428463
>I have been watching James Hoffman on YouTube today
Here's what he says about the grinder that shit all over the hario in his budget tests.
https://youtu.be/dn9OuRl1F3k?t=1298

>>17428618
Yeah, I saw that today. It's pretty harsh and made me feel a bit bad, which is why I was wondering if I will get half decent coffee. But he also said that he used the Hario while travelling so maybe with a bit of tweaking the grind size it will be allright.
At least if I have to upgrade I haven't wasted that much money. It sounds like for a really good grinder I would have spend over 200gbp for a manual and 500gbp for an electric. To my ignorant eyes grinders look like pretty simple devices, I am really surprised how expensive they can get.

>>17428578
>brews tea as well
Ah ok, then that makes more sense. Only other cheapest grinder I wanna try is the Timemore C2. Grinder investment is the biggest upfront cost in coffee, but you don't need to go crazy unless you do esspresso.
t.fellow tea enjoyer

>>17428646
>To my ignorant eyes grinders look like pretty simple devices, I am really surprised how expensive they can get.
You're grinding a natural product to a very specific particle size and distribution, then extracting soluable compounds to taste. Its chemistry you drink. A $200 grinder will last you decades longer than $200 of tea.

>>17428618
When the hario slim came out there wasn't as much choice and I think he got it mostly cause it travels well and can't break. If you haven't used the hario yet, I'd look into a hand grinder closer to a bill range. I haven't used the Timemore c2 but it's the next grinder I'm going to get. Theres the regular and the max. Max cost a little more, but but grinds more at once.
https://youtu.be/ZEuym4BSHgQ

>>17428676
>$200 grinder will last you decades longer than $200 of tea.
Laughs in puer

>>17428676
Wait your the flair 58 teaspresso guy. How is pulling tea shots with that? Only other place I've heard do it is verdant. Also what is that puer? Is that white2tea being ironic or?

should I get a df64 with ssp unimodal all purpose burrs or save up for something good?
t. niche owner

>>17428716
Right. I still think of the $400+ menku ripe I got to sample. Never had a tea that tastes like black forest cake before. It haunts me. I know I shouldn't buy 3 year old ripe for $800 a kilo buuut.
>>17428726
Its fun. You probably won't be able to use the tea portafilter without a variable pressure machine. You'd have to 6bar opv a gaggia and still run it on a dimmer to get the pressurized "steep and release" that its meant for and still have to deal with crossing flavors. Flair58 I can completely wipe down and clean out in 10 minutes. The cake is snoozefest 2021 and its making fun of a reddit comment from years ago. I bought it specifically so someone else in /tea/ couldn't and ended up with like 8 more cakes.
https://white2tea.com/collections/latest-additions/products/2021-snoozefest

>>17427928
Yes, I love it
>>17428133
Have you tried the recipe? It feels absolutely crazy to do but I'm sorry Tetsu-san

>>17423645
Today I had my coffee as a cold brew steeped with maple syrup then mixed with some milk, almond milk, and some more maple syrup mixed in.

>>17428716
laughs in Ninety Plus Geshas, Civet, Black Ivory, etc. All you do is put leaves in tea lmao

>>17429165
>Civet
Please speak more on how little you know about specialty coffee. I've got a few kg of kona to sell you.

Bros I did the retard brew again, this time with 89 degree water. Very sweet cup, better than last time. Pour-over bros, at least try it.
>Medium-fine grind
>25g in
>300g water
>Pour it all in 15s, drawdown 1m30
>Circular pour to cover all the grinds, center pour the rest

>>17429248
I've done sub2min center pours when I was fucking around with how far I could ruin "osmotic flow" and still get something drinkable. Turns out its hard to fuck up good coffee. You're not going to get as "optimal" of a cup or whatever doing so, but you'll produce coffee. For the center pour, try to match your pouring speed to whats coming out of the dripper. Maintain a steady water level until you've hit your water weight.
>Medium-fine grind
Define this.
https://www.kruveinc.com/pages/downloads

>>17429279
>Define this.
I can't be arsed bro sorry but I'm getting almost exactly a 1m30 draw down in an 02 v60 after pouring agressively in 15s. Got the idea from this video and a few others: https://youtu.be/miuPSjazpyw.. Tetsu's since released the Mugen brewer to make this exact recipe; it's a bit more than fucking around

>>17429297
What grinder and what setting?
>and a few others
Yeah center pouring has been a thing for years. Probably to keep a relatively static bed and let fines settle rather than continually swirling everything.

>>17424023
Why is it so coarse? You have particles that look like they are larger than 1mm in there.

>>17426149
The vast color differences here are likely to come from coffees of different ripeness and processing. The darker beans with dark chaff are likely naturally processed. The very light beans are likely quakers or semi-quakers (low ripeness). Overall roast level looks similar - roast level, when comparing unground coffee, is most accurately assessed by bean texture. Every seed looks plump and glossy, and with light chaff (aside from the natural processed coffee). There is no indication of striation in the beans, and none look dry - so no lighter roasted seeds there. Some do look noticeably darker, however, the inner chaff of those is still light. I'd say we have a mix of low grown coffees from brazil/mexico contributing most of the quakers/semi-quakers. Then a bit of natural ethiopian contributing the darker looking seeds. I see a few very ugly/damaged seeds in there, so maybe some indonesian coffee as well. Who knows, I could be wrong.

Looks like shit. These are the roasters who are selling you coffee based on roast level btw.

>>17429415
was trying a coarser grind on my aeropress. that puck actually had two grind sizes involved because I had leftover finer grind from a previous cup

>>17429440
Here's the local sam's club blend the roasterie did. Also a "medium". $15/2.5lbs. Kind of tastes like those old milk chocolate oranges you'd crack apart. Pretty good straight at shorter ratios but its great with milk. I'll probably snag 5lbs more to freeze.
https://theroasterie.com/collections/coffee

James Hoffman here. Came here at the request of one of my subscribers. I want you all to know that you're vile disgusting people with zero coffee taste. This whole website should be banned. I'm going to write a letter to my local council and representative.

>>17428463
You're going to get flamed for the grinder because it's the most important piece of your setup other than the coffee and you went with pretty much a bottom of the barrel option but spent a bunch on a kettle that's not going to give you any advantage for your chosen brew method.

That said you can absolutely get good coffee from what you have, and assuming you use good technique it should be significantly better than what you'd get out of a shitty drip machine and supermarket coffee.

Your kettle will be way more meaningfully useful if you decide to try other brew methods where controlled pouring actually matters like pourover, but either way the biggest upgrade you could make to improve your end product at this point would be a better grinder, even if you just pick up one of the cheapest halfway decent steel burr hand grinders out there.

Basically when you're thinking about where to spend your money ask yourself whether quality of your end product will be impacted solely by the equipment or if you are able to supplement cheapest gear with better technique. You could buy the cheapest barbones kettle available but still brew good coffee with extra effort on your part, but there's no secret technique to make a cheap grinder grind better, you get what it gives you.

>>17424702
NGMI

>>17429687
>he's low T and doesn't swirl like >>17427782
ngmi

>>17429700
no swirl look:
>>17429297

>>17429555
Much better quality green here. However, there are a number of beans with very prominent tipping. If you dig mediocre coffee, more power to you. No idea why you would choose to buy so much of this, over something of better quality and a more transparent roast profile. I hate roastiness in coffee.

Care to explain the appeal of a coffee like this?

>>17429709

>>17428214
>Your coffee probably tastes like ass.
oh im sure it does, but there is no one to try it other than me so idk. im not going to run around town with my cup of coffee asking people to try it. thats one way trip to the loony bin.

>>17427692
It's pretty good, though. I like it.

>>17429941
Cheap, locally roasted, easy to dial in, and decent enough to drink until the weather flips and I can get back to roasting SOs myself. 7/10, 8 with milk.

>>17429587
nice larp faggot.

Fuck you smug pour over faggots I can do it too

I get perfect v60 at 17.5g to 250g but 20g to 300g is always worse no matter what I do. Pls help me coffee bros

>>17430285
BASED
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Why are some coffee places so much shitter than other coffee places? Is it the roast, the grind, the beans, the coffee machine? Some places their coffee tastes like bitter with milk and others are creamy, sweet, tasty, and that's without sugar.

>>17430285
Now you're dripping in style.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CHNufSdB0sk/

What went wrong?

>>17430314
coffee brewing has so many variables that its almost impossible to know.

if you control for everything at the end someone still has to make it(unless you have a 100% automated coffee growing/harvesting/roasting/grinding/brewing robot) so then it comes down to the person making it. but even a great barista can only do so much with bad coffee or bad machines or bad water or whatever else.

>>17430351
It's the first thing that comes up on ebay "coffee hand grinder"

>>17430285
Holy fucking kek

>>17430285
Is that Aerowave with melodrip?

>>17429620
Okay thanks, I guess I will try it with my current grinder to see whether I enjoy this kind of speciality coffee and then plan a grinder upgrade soon.
Other than the obvious fact that with a manual grinder I have to use my own strength, are there any differences between manual grinders and electric ones? Can a manual grinder produce the same results as a good electric one?

my melodrip looks weird

>>17430840
MODS

>>17430219
Sounds like you have pretty low standards. Must be nice :<

>>17430298
grind coarser for the larger one, maybe slightly lower brew temp

>>17431014
I've done both, no amount of tweaking can produce the same cup

>>17430794
Only advantage of an electric grinder over not having to do the work yourself is capacity. A hand grinder's maximum capacity will be significantly lower than most electric models, though that's probably not really a concern unless you're grinding back to back all the time in a commercial setting where you'd never have a manual grinder anyway. Ultimately any grinder is just a set of burrs bring driven either by you turning a crank or by a motor. The only thing that's really going to affect the grind quality in a significant way is the burrs so if you don't mind doing the work yourself you can get a significantly better grinder by going manual than you'd be able to get for the same money spent on an electric model.

>>17430285

>>17431009
I was using 10lbs of grade 1 ethiopian beans for a footrest for a while. I also keep $3 tatuaje petits on hand so I don't have to smoke all my opus xs.

>>17424953
i used to drink it occasionally from a cheapo drip machine. does it taste any better if you use fancier methods?

>>17430840
wouldnt this just make french press coffee? theyre both immersion brews with a metal filter

Coof.

>>17423820

>>17427862
It sounds like a myth but I have tried both and yes, it makes a difference. Especially with expensive fresh ground coffee but even with regular vacuum packed you can tell the difference. That being said it's arguably not worth it. I have a regular moccamaster and that one makes coffee that is good enough to the point that it's not worth the extra time and effort.

>>17431040
Same guy who tried to pass of a reddit flat max as his own? Lol.

>>17432999
No just wanted to out my own meme but when I steal from reddit it's to be funny. That cringy fuck is lurking here somewhere

Is it possible for coffee to be both sour and astringent but not bitter?

>>17433536
yes, i had one this morning (turned around for 1 fucking second and the moka pot went from half filled to spraying coffee all over my stove), it was ok.

i had one yesterday(Guatemalan, slightly over extracted) that just made me want to keep drinking it. it was so good i wanted to just gulp it down.

Brokefag here, can't afford an espresso machine nor do I have the space for one. Is a moka pot an okay alternative?

>>17424751
God I hate this artstyle trend. There's nothing wrong with references but just tracing overtop images and """stylizing""" it looks horrible.

>>17433702
I like how they included a drip machine(which doesn't require a kettle), a Barisieur(which doesn't require a kettle), a nespresso machine(which doesn't require a kettle),coffee beans, no grinder, and a kettle. Really paints a picture.

>>17433666
its good enough. but if you just want espresso maybe ask a aeropress fag.

>>17433666
Aeropress makes the best espresso, it's all we italians use.

what would you guys say is the 'best' coffee on amazon? i know you guys like doing alchemy and roasting your own shit but i honestly don't have the patience for it nor do i want to spend 2 dollars an ounce for locally roasted coffee.

>>17431236
Idk what a "fancier" method would be. Set water in kettle and turn on the heat. Put filter on cup. Put coffee in filter. Pour a little just-under-boiling water over coffee. Let drain into cup. Add more water. Let it drain. Done.

That's how I've always done it but it tastes kinda harsh and acidic now. Was it always that way but I've never noticed until now that I've grown used to Community?

>>17434018
fancier as in any method other than a drip machine lol. i use a french press exclusively.

>>17432783
>moccamaster
Interesting. It's not a good looking machine, but if it's a good balance between ease and taste I'd gladly shell out a few bucks for it. I hope it fits my kitchen though, looks tall.

>>17434070
>Moccamaster
>Not good looking

Fag

>>17427862
The benefit of having a machine do it is that they maintain a consistent temperature and make the process hands-off for the most part. If you're boiling a kettle of coffee, but the kettle is shit, you're not going to be reaching or maintaining a consistent temperature for a good brew.

That being said, what you should prioritizing is a good grinder. The difference between a middling cup and an amazing cup is an even grind, not how good the coffee maker is.

>>17434027
lolwut?
My $3 filter is fancy?

I got a lil cesve off of etsy, will report back in a week

How can I get quality, but quickly produced coffee? I've been purchasing McDonald's coffee for years now.

>>17435163
Depends on your standards. I hear dunkin donuts is good.

>>17435185
Nah it's shit. Having worked there as a teenager and had a shit ton of their awful coffee because it was free, I've never understood where this idea comes from.

For my money Wawa coffee is generally the best in my area if there's no actually good places close by.

>>17435561
Just make your own coffee

>>17432771
I miss virgin v chad memes ;_;

>>17425801
>mind broken teenagers

>>17435583
I do, I was just saying that if I find myself in a situation where I wanted coffee and I was neither at home nor in an area where there's a decent cafe nearby I wouldn't go to Dunkin donuts because contrary to popular opinion, their coffee is shit even compared to other cheap shit options.

I have a rice cooker that purportedly uses machine learning to account for human error so that you get delicious rice no matter what.

Is there something like that for coffee? I can't figure out how to brew tasty coffee at home and I need help.

>>17436153
>I can't figure out how to brew tasty coffee at home and I need help.
What have you tried?

>>17435561
In my experience, DD is very store-to-store. There are six walking distance of my house. One, staffed entirely by slant-eyes, makes great coffee. Another, staffed entirely by Arab girls, excepting the filthy Paki manager, makes decent coffee. The closest one to me, staffed entirely by Pakis, is fucking disgusting.
Another has hot Albanian bitches who make pretty good coffee, too, but they'll probably steal your kidney if they manage to distract you with their hotness too long so I don't go to that one. I've never gotten coffee at the remaining two, just sandos. One is staffed by 'groids and the other by greasy wop degos. I would guess neither has decent coffee.

>>17435163
be like me
>have impossibly low standards for coffee
>drink whatever's cheapest to brew and still think it tastes good
Shit's not rocket science, coffee comes from the same shitholes on planet Earth. I've never had black coffee was too bad to drink.

>>17436206
I thought I had low standards until I tried instant and decaf instant. that shit always has some nastiness to it that I cant get around. I white knuckled it when nothing else was available but over time I couldn't tolerate it anymore.

>>17436263
I've only had spray-dried instant but in my experience, it absolutely has to be milked, otherwise, it will taste absolutely awful.

Start your morning

>months of tinkering with my setup
>finally find the absolutely perfect espresso routine
>my grinder is stepless
>terrified of changing the grind size for other drinks cause i might lose the one-atom-wide setting that produces perfect particle sizes

help

>>17436725
Take a marker and mark the dial and the body so you can just realign to get back to that setting.

>>17436337
It's definitely an acquired taste, helps that it saves me money. You have to try really hard to make coffee taste bad, making good coffee is fucking easy. I don't know what the autists in this thread are complaining about.

>>17436341

Vacuum filters seem like an extremely flashy way to brew extremely medicre coffee.

Is there any merit to them beyond being a party trick?

>>17436821

Which one should I have today /ctg/

>>17436955
what the fuck is that.

>>17436962
A birthday present.
I had the first one a few days ago (Brazil), was surprised how nice it was

>>17436965
>>17436955
sorry for the rotations. idk why phoneposting always does that

>>17436955
Ethiopian, of course.

>>17436967
based coffee origins enjoyer. i agree

>>17436965
could you use these for MRE's

>>17436966
because you have it configured to do it

>>17436967
>ethiopian has a picture of a milf with fat tits.
i only drink coffee that comes from a bag that has hot girls on it.
is there coffee with anime waifus on it?

>>17437009
id guess so. i got loads out the brazil one. over a litre before it started getting weak

>>17436153
Get better beans. Contrary to what hipster coffee shops will try to get you to believe, coffee brewing isn't some esoteric magic shrouded in mystery. You're just flushing solubles compounds out of the bean with water. Bean quality, roast quality and freshness account for the vast majority of the flavor. Brewing accounts for maybe 15%-20% at best. Immersion brewers are easier and more forgiving than pour over. So if you don't want to be assed to do a bunch of fiddly measuring or kettle work then just get something like pic related. Watch James Hoffman's guide and you will be 95% of the way there regarding brewing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lPGf1gM9nA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aidvrssMSGo

Also don't neglect storage conditions. You lose the ability to get the "taste like it smells" brew in a couple days after you open the beans if you just leave them out on the counter. Every time you open the container and smell that delicious coffee aroma, that's flavor compounds off gassing into the air and not going into your cup. I buy in bulk and store my beans in an airtight container in the freezer and only take out a couple of days worth of beans at a time and store that in an airtight container in the fridge to have as little loss of aromatics as possible. This method can keeps the beans at taste-like-it-smells freshness for months.

did you guys see the results of the study other day? 10 year study on thousands of people argue that
>regular coffee drinkers live 12% longer
if you havent seen it I could dig up a link, if yes what do you think about it?

>>17437131
here ya go anyways
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-10493427/Want-live-longer-Drink-three-cups-coffee-day.html

>living 12% longer
>17% less chance to catch a heart issue
coffeebros we cant stop winning

>>17437154
>daily mail
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-9660771/Health-Drinking-four-coffees-day-QUADRUPLE-risk-developing-sight-threatening-glaucoma.html
they put out articles saying its bad one month and good the next

French press or pour over? I'm trying to decide which would be a better upgrade from the drip coffee maker I have now.

>>17437154
Probably more to do with the state of mind. Caffeine addicts probably kept that percentage from it's real potential. Coffee enthusiasts tend to be able to just chill out enjoy "life moments" or whatever. I have to leave for work in 45 minutes, but I'm still in my PJs on my second cup and breakfast.

>>17437284
do you have any friends that make their own coffee? best to try before you buy. if you cant do that then buy a cheap version of both and see which one you prefer. then sell the other.

>All those marks to tell you to be autistic

>>17437284
One is more full bodied and the other offers better clarity of flavor and clarity in the cup itself. The FP is just a cup and a screen. The $8 model will do the same as the $80. These will be somewhat more tolerant of suboptimal beans and grinds than pourovers.

>>17437465
you ever combined half a cup of both?

>>17437321
>shits in a builder's grade toilet

>>17437284
I'm considering the same but leaning towards French press. Cost wise I'd probably spend about the same on either option, but I feel like I'd need a gooseneck kettle for pour overs, and storage space would be a bit of an issue for me. Switching from drip though, you might find pour over offers a more similar experience.

>>17436816
Isn't brewed coffee even cheaper than instant? Why not go the South Indian route and brew a fucktonne of quadruple strength coffee "decoction" and store in the fridge, mixing some with hot (or iced) water (also sugar and milk, if you're so inclined) when you want a cup? The taste changes the longer it sits and it's kind of an interesting thing. Like... the first day, when it's still freshly brewed, coffee made from the decoction might have a sharp taste, yeah? But by the third, it will have mellowed out and just taste really nice.

For anyone already familiar with the process of South Indian coffee, you don't even have to do the juggling bullshit, either. There's really no point. Just add your water/milk and enjoy it.

>>17436955
>organic
>GOURMET
>HAND ROASTED
WOW WHAT A SNATCH

>>17437471

mixing two kinds of coffee together almost always produces disappointing results.

god damn this bali is j u i c y

Can anyone recommend a good, sturdy french press? Walmart is the only place near me that sells them, and within a couple months two of them have come apart during regular use.

>>17438169
If you want to sperg out and buy a bulletproof one these have replaceable filters.
https://www.espro.com/products/coffee-french-press-p7?variant=40619332829363

>>17438169
I have a Bodum one for over 2 years now, still holds up and is easy to clean. Was also only like 20 bucks

How do you tame your urge to consoom coffee gear?

>>17438283
by being a grownup

>>17438299
Being grown only gives you more access to consoom and more avenues to justify it with

>>17438283
realize that no matter what gear you buy you’ll still end up sitting there drinking your coffee and feeling dead inside, wondering what to buy next to fill the emptiness

>>17438283
Whatchu trying to buy?

colombian beans are fucking garbage

>>17438460
My urge to consoom reaches out in every which way. Currently resisting a new grinder.
>>17438477
This is retarded

Bought my first french press, whats the typical coffee to water ratio? How fine do you grind your beans?

>another french piss victim

>>17438524
What do you have and what are you looking at? I wanted a helor stance manual for years to complete the hand grinder hand pressed espresso meme. I ended up with the same burrs in the Weber Key so I figure I'll have to be happy with that for a few years while I look for a complementary flat burr. Swing for the fences.

>>17438545
1 tablespoon for each cup of water, coarse-ground.

>>17438582
Why wouldn't you get an HG-2?

>>17438582
that thing is cute af

>>17436189
Nigga when I had it I was making it, and it was literally

>Grind
>Brew
>Drink
>It's shit

The machines control literally every variable unless you accidentally dump out the grounds or piss in it.

Unless you're talking about their espresso drinks which you absolutely shouldn't be getting if you don't hate yourself.

>>17438634
That was the plan, but by getting the key on presale I got it cheaper than the hg-2 kek. $1649 no tax free shipping no customs vs $1650 + tax + ~$200 dhl air +~$100 customs fees. I could pay the additional cost for dhl and still come out ahead but its funnier not to imo. It'll be here in a few weeks.

>>17428795
>tastes like black forest cake
That sounds fucking delicious.
>tea porta filter
Oh, so it's a special one just for tea. So just steep it in there then press it out sounds nice always wondered how that would taste.
>making fun of reddit
Good. I always see reviews for that company. They never seemed scummy. Just use more modern wrapping and not labeling it as health tea.
>so someone on /tea/ couldn't buy it
Fucking savage. Where they just an asshole in the thread?
>>17429165
>all you do is put tea in leaves
I'm going to assume you ment water. And yes. Its what makes tea great and the antithesis of coffee. I love both, but coffee requires more prep and work. I can brew leaves loose in my mug and sip on that bitch while topping it off with more water all day.

>>17438283
All the stuff I want to buy is perpetually out of stock so it's easy

>>17438477
Agreed, probably the most overrated origin other than k*nya

>got one of these for free because it was leaking
>the water supply hose had split, didn't even need to replace it, just cut off the split portion and reattach
Been serving me well these last couple years by using darker roasts and finest grind setting. Just wish the steamer was better, it's in a weird place where it's not automatic nor is it a proper steam wand.

>>17438777
https://dragonteahouse.biz/mengku-brand-bo-jun-pu-erh-tea-cake-2019-500g-ripe/
https://youtu.be/Dod23uBSdJM

>>17439259
Thank you senpai.

Coof

>cousin got me a bunch of bean samplers for Christmas
>Still haven't made them
I should do that. Also what's this swirl people are talking about?

>>17438299

>bean samplers

>>17438939
Canadian?

>Get covid
>Coffee taste like shit
Well I'll save some money I guess

>>17423645
Didn't expect a Southern Indian style restaurant to have such nice coffee...
I'm impressed.

>>17440822
describe taste

Any ausfags here want to recommend a roster? I've been going through normcore recently

>>17426026
>post your favorite v60 recipe
I used Lance Hendricks today and it was quite nice. I literally only know his and Hoff's though

>>17426026
april 50, 4:6, fagmetheus etc

>>17441028
Five Senses have a really good selection of single origins and a decent rotation of limited time stuff. They ship with Startrack but sometimes it takes a full day or two for them to ship so you have to kind of bank on maybe four days from ordering to receiving, so you've got to be a little aware that you're running out. But I've used them for ages now pretty much exclusively.

>>17437096
Thank you!

>>17441028
i have been drinking padre coffee for a few months. i like it.

Cortado?

>>17438545
Don't listen to this >>17438606
retard. Start with a 1/16 coffee/water weight ratio. Keep a fixed recipe (brew time/temp) and grind medium coarse, if it's bitter grind coarser if it's sour grind finer. You can adjust ratio to taste after.

I just wanted a better wdt tool and these 3d printed fucks have me sanding acupuncture needles now.

>>17438545
I go pretty fine on the grinds. Even fine and extra ratio never comes out over ex moka pot bitter.

>>17442618
Seems like overkill, Hoffmeme mentions a version that uses the little pieces meant for cleaning out print nozzles in his video on 3d printed coffee stuff, seems like a simpler choice to me.

>>17443019
> little pieces meant for cleaning out print nozzles
Same thing. Little flexible needles. Mine are .35mm I guess. Seller said to sand the tips so I don't scratch my baskets. Couple minutes of light light brushing across a shapton 16k and its done. I could have used a way coarser stone but I didn't want to remove too much material.
https://www.amazon.com/Hestya-Printer-Nozzle-Cleaning-Stainless/dp/B078HXTLX8/

>>17426026
for me, it's 4:6
nothing compares to it imo

>>17442316
Gibraltar?

>>17440700
did you vaxx? please tell me you didnt im about to spray my coffee here.

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>>17443983
why new thread baleeted?

>>17444076
mods are fags who hate cute asian girls

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>>17444100

Just got some new coffee. What did I think of it?

>>17444182
you started hollering and making soijack faces and gaping your mouth until jaw joints broke

$50 for a hand grinder, base and redpill me on something /ctg/.

>>17444533
Timemore c2 probably

>>17444533
Go a little higher and get somthing like Timemore C2 or Normcore. Only thing in that range is Hario but your better off investing a little higher.

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>>17444651
I could probably swing for the timemore c2 if you lot say it's worth it

>>17444659
You should get the 1zpresso q2 while its on sale on amazon. $89

>>17444659
Just roll the dice and grab a $40 timemore off AliExpress

I have no experience with the grinder or the chinksite, so I have no problem telling you to risk your money

what happened to v's 1 through 59?

>>17444902
Overswirled, unfortunately

>>17444902
most people don't realize but V refers to the shape and the cone-shape is 60cm wide at the top

>>17443969
Of course not

>>17444754
this

>>17445058
neat

>>17436821
>an extremely flashy way to brew extremely medicre coffee
I agree to a very expanded extent.

>>17445146
put a lid on when you brew and you get a vacuum effect that increases extraction.

>>17445058
>the cone-shape is 60cm wide at the top
It's actually 60 meters wide

it's the no waste better than all the neolib coffee brew solution.
and it's not $65/lb
it's like $5 a pound.
if you roast your own and buy bulk green.

>>17436821
Immersion/percolation combo, constant temperature, cloth filter. Looking fancy ain't it's only trait.

I've had some great siphon coffee.

>>17445186
adding salt to your vinegar makes coffee boil faster

>>17444659
>>17444754
Grinder is the most important investment. Its worth spending bgg a little more on it. Give that other grinder mentioned here a look. There are tons of fid YouTube channles that compare all if these.

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