/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>17321748
They eat yellow rice

Rice good

>>17321751
Just don't eat yellow snow

Because of their lower weight, asians suffer less heart disease, the number one killer of Americans. However, there have been studies shown that the Chinese have diabetes rates similar to Americans from eating only rice.

>>17321748
Polished white rice is a nutritional void. It's how the Japanese navy discovered the existence of b-vitamins and the cause of beriberi, which was widespread in east asia before the 20th century. A diet including white rice is fine, but a diet of mainly white rice is a recipe for disaster.

>>17321765
This is wrong, stop talking about shit you don't know about.

>>17321748
Lower GI foods are generally a better idea, but the total quantity you eat is an order of magnitude more important. Americans in general eat way the fuck more so they're way more unhealthy.
Ideally, you'd eat lower GI foods an lower quantities for optimal health. But if you're eating maintenance calories and eating multiple times a day then low or high GI food matters relatively little.

>>17321748
True story , you don’t need polymerized sugar in your diet .

>>17321820
This, it's a quantity issue. Portion sizes in America are huge, especially at fast food and sit down restaurants. A lot of these people in Asia are lucky to be able to get enough to eat, let alone enough to get fat.

When Italians eat pasta, it's like a half a cup or cup of pasta after it's been cooked, not a humongous bowl plus breadsticks plus their battered, fried protein.

Fast food hasn't invaded and replaced the local cuisine in a lot of these Asian countries.

the difference is minimal. Looks up the macros

>>17321813
Not that guy and idk about the Chinese but Japan has a disproportionately high rate of diabetes relative to their obesity rate and it's definitively because of white rice consumption.

>>17321748
>Another white anonymous user who does not understand the concept of confounding variables due to poor educational outcomes in his rural community. He will be an excellent goy for a lazy older tradeworker goy who will take him in and abuse him like the nigger he is.

Many such cases.

>>17321748
White rice isn't ideal. The bran contains some nutrition, but it's generally removed because the natural oil it contains can go rancid which isn't great for billions of people who rely on rice as a staple food. Like other posters have said, the rate of diabetes in some Asian countries is higher than expected when comparing the ratio of people who are overweight/obese, and the high intake of refined white rice could be why.

Brown rice might be healthier. Also getting carbs from other things like sweet potato, fruit, beans, etc. And a major factor in living longer with less disease is just eating less, calorie restriction has been shown multiple times to improve health and longevity.

>>17322210
One country of rice eating slant eyes has Beetus. Must definitely be the rice that all the slant eyes eat

>>17321751
Like Vigo and Mahatma brand, right?

i'm mostly amazed anyone with rice as their staple is able to shit right. comes out like cement.

>>17322074
>Portion sizes in America are huge
shut the fuck up. you go to thailand, malasia, indonesia, china and japan and you eat where the normal working people eat and you will get equal portion sizes as america

>>17321748
Asians also walk everywhere

>>17321748
>Asians eat this shit 3 times a day
They also get dry flaky ear "wax". Different genetics are a reality.
Maybe their bodies can just pass the cadmium and arsenic that rice picks up?

>>17322278
t. 350lb midwesterner that's never left his corn field

>>17322244
China has huge diabetes now comparable to the US. Obesity is only ~5% but their diabetes/ pre diabetes is similar to US at ~50%

>>17321748
eat white rice within reason. you'll be fine..

>>17322340
>~50%
holy fuck I knew things were bad but had no idea it was even close to that much

>>17322385
Because he pulled that number out of his ass.

>poorfag
>want to eliminate simple carbs from diet
>rice and pasta are the cheapest and easiest foods

>>17322253
you are so full of shit i'm amazed you can even walk without shitting all over the floor

>>17322074
Retard.

>>17322422
>poor and lazy
checks out

>>17322397
>>17322385
10% have diabetes. 33% are 'prediabetic'.

>>17322244
White rice is essentially sugar from the neck down.

>>17321756
Don't be a naughty Eskimo

>>17321748
look up the rice, arsenic, chicken, chicken shit, mushroom connection. it's a big circle. you can even just search "rice high arsenic" and there's tons of information.

>>17322422
there are many other grain options like oats, buckwheat, quinoa, millet, rye, barley and much much more that can be cooked in similar ways as rice.

>>17321751
plastic actually

>>17322745
if you hate yourself you can use lentils, lots of protein, dirt cheap, low GI. Taste like shit and make you want to die but they're great for you health and your wallet.

>>17322755
whats wrong with lentils?
gonna make some this week, its my second time using them, have a hard time cooking them actually but they taste ok

>>17322755
At that point just use black beans as a base layer for everything. Almost the same nutrition but taste infinitely better

>>17322397
no both have about 50 percent diabetes or pre diabetes

>>17322797
it would probably be another 10 or 20 percent more if we diagnosed properly but the way we diagnose now catches diabetes after you have been insulin resistant for years or maybe decades

>>17322811
type 2 I am referring to in case not clear. type 1 is a pretty clear diagnosis

>>17322397
here is where I got the China numbers from
>The estimated prevalence of diabetes increased from 10.9% (95% CI, 10.4%-11.5%) in 2013 to 12.4% (95% CI, 11.8%-13.0%) in 2018 (P<.001). The estimated prevalence of prediabetes was 35.7% (95% CI, 34.2%-37.3%) in 2013 and 38.1% (95% CI, 36.4%-39.7%) in 2018 (P=.07).
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/article-abstract/2787545
and US you can just ask CDC but most put it around 40-50% depending how you measure
>Total: 34.2 million people have diabetes (10.5% of the US population)
>Total: 88 million people aged 18 years or older have prediabetes (34.5% of the adult US population)
https://www.cdc.gov/diabetes/data/statistics-report/index.html

>>17321748
wh*teoids aren't used to being responsible for anything, so when a doctor says "exercise and don't eat too much junk food" they work overtime trying to come up with a cheat code like "carbs bad" even if it has no basis in reality

>>17322253
While obviously there are fatties in these Asian countries, it is not like half the population is considered obese.

>>17321748
In Japan at least, there is a huge pressure towards nutritional value. Yes, rice is everywhere, but the side dishes always try to balance everything else. Always lots of fish, chicken, and vegetables.

>>17322869
China has a fraction of the obesity rate of US but more diabetes see >>17322824

>>17322869

>>17321748
Rice is unhealthy, but what else can you store on the shelf and eat without a can opener?

>>17322907
cookies?

>>17322907
Can openers are harder for you to find than a pot, water and a stove/fire?

>>17321748
Does it have any nutritional value at all? With potatoes, at least you get the potassium and other minerals. But rice is just white nothing in my opinion. Energy in the form of carbs, that's about it.

>>17322930
What a brave opinion. No one else has ever pointed out that rice is empty calories.

>>17322930
since when does rice have zero vitamins and minerals? it's just plant seeds, they need plant hormones, minerals and vitamins to be able to reproduce, hence they contain them for our benefit

>>17322253
Portion sizes of what though? An equal portion of butter and cheese to rice isn’t the same portion nutritionally.

>>17322943
ehhh not really. mostly bound up with anti nutrients and or come in the wrong forms that our bodies dont absorb very well

>>17322959
anti nutrients are such a dumb meme. We do cook food to get rid of them, you know

>>17322980
reduces but doesnt get rid of. still most plant foods contain many vitamins and minerals in the wrong forms that we poorly absorb

>>17322959
>mostly bound up with anti nutrients
the fuck?

>>17323030
Reduces them by 90%+ easily in most cases. And it honestly doesnt matter if the minerals are the 'wrong minerals'. If you eat enough veggies and nutrient dense meats you're completely fine. Most normies never even care about this stuff and still live to their 70s and 80s. Stop being a sperg

>>17323036
>enough veggies and nutrient dense meats
mkay...

>>17323036
>90%+ easily in most cases
also wrong but whatever. enjoy your lentils

>>17322734
t. American who doesn't wash their rice

>>17323046
tell me how many westerners die from nutrient deficienies each year. A normal diet has more than enough to get you into your 70s and 80s provided they arent alcoholics or smokers. And dont link anything about retards eating raw beans, that doesnt prove shit

>>17321756
and don't leave your open coke can with your chinese friend

>>17323067
no clue how many die and was never a claim i made but likely causing harm to the next generation due to poor diets. deficiency is rampant even in wealthy Western countries

>>17323095
now link the stats for western europe, i'm not from the US and i dont care about how unhealthy you consoomer retards are-

>>17323100
im not in Western Europe so I dont care. wow this is very productive. have a nice life asshole

>>17323105
you're just overcomplicating nutrition with memes you heard on the internet. Anti-nutrients are not a cause of concern, and if you eat a balanced diet that incorporates veggies and meats you're probably fine. Stop fearmongering you moron

>>17323119
no im not. large segements of vulnerable populations are defficient in protein and micros best obtained from animal foods. cant make it any more simple than that

>>17323122
there is no such thing as being deficient in protein, i have no idea where you heard that. You can eat a lot of protein if you want to put on lean mass, or eat less protein if you're a couch potato who doesnt care. Micros are another thing, but i've never heard of anyone besides one chick that had a b12 deficiency because she wrecked her gut flora with antibiotics. And read what i wrote. Eat veggies and meat is what i said.

>>17323130
very nice we're now at the point of completely talking past each other and not reading anything each other wrote so i will reiterate see graphic in >>17323095 i have nothing else to say to you

>>17323137
this graph only proves that women are bad at making good food decisions, lets be honest

>>17321748
arsenic poisoning
>asians eat it
yes, in the past it did not contain the industry metals
same with fish and mercury

Asians eat only rice? What about all of that sea food, noodles, and the peppers the Chinese rave about?

Soy sauce had to come from somewhere, too. Pretty sure that leads to high blood pressure.

>>17321748
they are also midgets with small dicks,eating too much rice and soy will do that

>>17321748
Add one of these Goya packets to the rice for the win.

>>17324321
som ting wong?

>>17324321
THE PLANE!
THE PLANE!

Rice is so weird. Seems like a meme novelty food, crazy people eat it three times a day

>>17324337
its cheap calories and theyre probably poor

>>17324337
It's just a flavor absorber/delivery system. Why it's almost always paired with thick sauces. Pasta is the same shit.

>>17322221
Poltard detected

>>17325451
You seem to be the racist, as is very common with your types. I simply don't give a shit about your fucking nations and don't want to visit them.
If you want to call me racist for disagreeing with you then you must have been shillary supporters since that's the best that they can do.
Are you still seething in your closets because Trump beat your annointed one?

>they care about their health
How old do you guys plan to live?

>>17321748
1. asian genetics are adapted to digest rice properly
2. asians exercise more than westerners, especially walking
3. asians usually eat rice with light foods to balance it

She'd learned the secret of white rice.
https://youtu.be/bq7UC0HtYXM?t=780

>>17322882
black > white > asian

in terms of resistance to diabetes for a given weight. blacks have higher total diabetes than whites because they're massively overweight, but if you hold obesity constant, blacks have the lowest incidence of diabetes.

>>17326169
being healthy feels great short term too, anon

>>17321748
How do you season this shit, anyway?

>>17326251

>>17326149
lol imagine being so butthurt about politics that you can't even talk about white rice without seething

>>17326251
You don’t.

>>17326251
No seasoning.
Eat with meat that contains plenty of sauce.

>>17323119
>veggies
Grow up

>>17326169
I didn't think I'd even make it this long so I have no long term plan.

I eat 2-3 cups of rice each day and I'm fine

>>17327152
do you eat a lot of sugar? i hope not

>>17321748
A lot of my female Chinese relatives aim to eat less rice, and if they do eat rice they choose mixed brown/whole grain rice. And they don’t always eat it for breakfast. Breakfast usually consists of half boiled egg.
Long lifespan is not connected to rice, but to balanced diet. We eat fresh vegetables and meat for lunch and dinner every day. Home cooked, whatever vegetable meat or fish that is available at the market. No microwave. No instant meals.

>we performed an internet survey on constipation among the Japanese general population to study the background factors and actual situations. Preliminary study on the awareness of constipation was conducted among 10000 people in which 9523 of them was asked if they had constipation at the time of the survey.
>In this population, 51.5% realized that they had constipation.

>>17322252
that's why they love hot bowel-burning peppers

>>17322753
this shit is so retarded. making little imitation rice out of plastic would be far more expensive than just selling rice

>>17327361
No?
I don't add sugar to my cooking and I only eat the food that I've cooked myself

>>17321765
The high rate of diabetes in asians is totally different thing. It's because of the low insulin emission due to the genes. So if overeating the same amount of carbohydrates, the europeans will just get fat infinitely, while asians tends to be diabetes before getting so much fat.

>>17321748
>Asians eat this shit 3 times a day minimum. They straight up eat this even for breakfast. Yet somehow they have the longest lifespans
Only because it's the lesser of a whole globe worth of unhealthy diets

>>17321748
>psy-oped by jews
The western nutrition industry is a fucking trainwreck full of grifters looking to reinvent the wheel to demonize their buzzword of the day.
That said rice isn't great for you, least not in the quantities that asians eat it. If it's your main carb? Sure, whatever, it'll dilute a stew, gets the job done. Just don't be eating full bowls that are nothing but rice and salt, I've seen some filipinos do that and they're always borderline suffering from malnutrition.

>>17324337
>been around since beginning of human history
>consumed by over half the world's population, if not more
>"meme food"
/ck/ really is the most retarded board

>>17326251
Not at all. The seasoning comes from the other parts of te meal.

>>17327417
What the definition of constipation they used?

whenever someone says something is "bad" for you what they really mean is that it's not as healthy as brown or yellow rice.
Carbs are bad for you anyway though. You need to eat more meat!

>>17322797
>about 50% diabetes or not diabetes

>>17323077
Yeah they might put out a ciggy in it then you end up drinking that and puking.
Fucking savages.

>>17321748
they don't Just eat rice you know?
they probably eat more vegs and get more nutrients than the average american due to the sheer variety in their dishes, the rice is just there give them energy
they eat a lot more meat and veg than rice, also they walk everywhere and probably have higher metabolism or something

>>17330160
pretty much
if you have a fulltime housewife, your table would at minimum have two vegetable dishes, at least a single source of protein and a soup of some sort, and dessert is usually fruit

what can i add to rice to make it a more nutritious food? specifically for rice i plan on putting on the fridge rather than eating inmediately, since i save it for commutes.

>>17330173
>asians eat rice like that
>americans eat rice like this

>>17329511
brown and yellow rice are not healthy either

>>17322916
Girl scout cookies are fun if you catch my drift.

>>17330221
chickun good

>>17330078
>>17330173
This. Check into the Blue Zones and The China study. A diet high in grains, legumes, and fruits and vegetables typically led to a longer and higher quality of life.

>The Blue Zones are parts of the world where people live the longest. These areas include Okinawa, Japan; Sardinia, Italy; Nicoya, Costa Rica; Icaria, Greece; and Loma Linda, California, according to Dan Buettner, who pioneered the concept and wrote The Blue Zones Solution: Eating and Living Like the World's Healthiest People. He broke down the dietary habits of the residents of these cities and found a commonality: They ate a lot of plants and whole foods.

>The China Study examines the link between the consumption of animal products (including dairy) and chronic illnesses such as coronary heart disease, diabetes, breast cancer, prostate cancer, and bowel cancer.[4] The book is "loosely based"[5] on the China–Cornell–Oxford Project, a 20-year study which looked at mortality rates from cancer and other chronic diseases from 1973 to 1975 in 65 counties in China, and correlated this data with 1983–84 dietary surveys and blood work from 100 people in each county.

>The authors conclude that people who eat a predominantly whole-food, vegan diet—avoiding animal products as a source of nutrition, including beef, pork, poultry, fish, eggs, cheese, and milk, and reducing their intake of processed foods and refined carbohydrates—will escape, reduce, or reverse the development of numerous diseases. They write that "eating foods that contain any cholesterol above 0 mg is unhealthy."

Unironically some here on /ck/ will never admit that their diets will cause them sickness and aging. There is a reason why major religions avoid pork for example. Combining vegetarian/vegan meals coupled with fasting, drinking lots of water, while abstaining from alcohol and meat consumption; is an ideal way to good health. Wishing you all the best.

>>17330362
Always remember some greens like spinach then you can be strong like Popeye.

>>17321748
contrary to popular belief about carbs you will also get skinny af like this

>>17330377
But who in their right mind wants to be a skeletor? That's no way to go through life.

>>17321748
All calories are healthy.
Its only the toxins in them that can be unhealthy. No such thing as unhealthy calories.

>>17330362
>led to a longer and higher quality of life.
so does the pescetarian diet of the Okinawan

>>17330362
i will trade a couple of years for good food

>>17322422
Potatoes

>>17330221
Beans or meat.

>>17330362
heads up to anyone who reads this, anyone who brought up the china study is not referring to the actual 900 page study that costs 200 bucks to even get a pdf of. They are referring to the cherry picked book. The actual study is far less conclusive.

The blue zones thing is also something one should take with a grain of salt. None of these areas are vegan, even loma linda, CA is majority vegetarian/pescatarian at best.

I agree whole, unprocessed foods, not engaging in vices like drinking and smoking, and eating appropriate quantities and getting plenty of physical activity and fresh air will improve longevity. But eating some quality animal products will not reduce your quality of life. Arguably it can improve it. After all, even Okinawan have their own heritage breed of hog, the Agu.

>>17330362
Japanese eat pork.

>>17330362
The china study and blue zones are created by jews to make people eat worse. Okinawans eat a ton of pork, just pork from head to toe if you've actually been there. The study was done post WW2 when their food production was absolutely destroyed and were forced to eat famine tier foods just to survive. Now Okinawans are back to eating just pork and they live longer than ever.

>>17330078
Me Chinese, me play joke!
Me put pee pee in your coke!

>>17331422
I can eat as much rice as I want with pork kakuni.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8AcfQeMEew

>>17332056
someone buy this person a cutting board wtf.

The carapace and bran have all of the nutritious fiber, but also have some oily shit that goes rancid after a while.

White rice is cheap and non perishable, but you need to eat it with healthier food. Some chicken and some aromatic vegetables like onion, garlic, and bell peppers for your protein and fiber.

>>17322074

when asians become human men, they'll get fed like a human man, until then they can kiss my white american ass

>>17334240
keep your black ass to yourself

>>17322745
>buckwheat
This desu. Goes with everything.

>>17329511
>Carbs are bad for you anyway though. You need to eat more meat!
This is not your conspiracy theorist uncle's Facebook wall, Cletus.

>>17321748
>everyone says
Bullshit, and fuck you, you hyperbolic, if not lying sack of shit.